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Watch out, Ryan, it’s Derby Week! (Monday Show Thread)

Good morning, friends, and welcome to the Monday edition of Kentucky Sports Radio. Today, Matt and Ryan will recap the weekend and give you the latest on Marques Bolden’s decision, who’s going to the NBA Draft Combine, and the NFL Draft. They’ll also start looking ahead to Saturday’s Derby, which gives me reason to share the infamous video of Ryan getting thrown in the infield mud puddle with you.

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25 Comments for Watch out, Ryan, it’s Derby Week! (Monday Show Thread)



  1. UK_JB
    9:50 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

    Anyone going to the Derby?

    Ryan, if Kenny Rice had hired you at WTVQ-36, you wouldn’t of been slammed in the mud.



  2. ukjaybrat
    10:13 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

    Going to be a short week. taking 1.5 days after lunch thursday. that being said, this is going to be the longest 3.5 day week ever. cmon KSR keep me sane !!!



    • RealCatsFan
      10:22 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

      I have always wanted to take the entire Derby Week off from work and take in all the events. Sadly, it seems that every time I accumulate enough vacation time to do this, I end up changing jobs and starting over.



    • ukjaybrat
      10:25 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

      i would love to as well.. this year we are super busy as well because mother’s day and UK graduation is Sunday and I have a lot of in-laws in town for my sister-in-law’s graduation. But at least i get to get in some golf friday morning before all the madness ensues πŸ™‚



  3. RealCatsFan
    10:21 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

    Sadly, at the age of 50 I’m afraid my basketball eligibility is probably used up. πŸ˜‰



  4. Northfork
    10:36 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

    UNC the Hillary Clinton of Basketball, no matter how much you screw up you’ll never be held responsible.



  5. J-Dub421
    10:40 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

    UNC did break rules though. They specifically steered athletes into fake classes to keep them eligible. They also had assistants/tutors writing papers and doing homework for athletes. These are impermissible benefits.

    It’s one thing if athletes take easier classes, as long as they do their own work and take their own tests, etc. It’s another thing entirely if athletes are in fake classes where they don’t have to show up or do any work. Why does this concept seem so difficult for some people?



    • Realme
      10:50 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

      Right. They fraudulently qualified their players to meet the NCAA APR standards. When teams don’t meet those standards, they don’t get to play. UCONN should have just lied, rather than get their recent ban.



    • CATandMONKEY
      10:52 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

      Nothing more need be said. Perfectly stated.
      My brother has a UNC degree and is embarrassed and enraged at the situation.



    • ukjaybrat
      10:54 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

      From what I understand though is that there is no way to prove that any ONE player did not actually do work. So basically we know most of them cheated and it’s not a secret, but because all we have are final grades and not actual course work, it can’t be proven that any individual player cheated (aside from enrolling in “easy” classes). so impermissible benefits can’t be proven.



    • J-Dub421
      10:56 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

      Multiple players in football and basketball would have been ineligible academically without those classes. Rashad McCants was a D-student in his other classes, but made A’s in his AFAM classes.



    • J-Dub421
      11:05 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

      http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/unc-tutor-reveals-10-sentence-term-paper-earned-football-player-a-phony-class-article-1.1737861

      That was supposed to have been a 5-page paper. It’s a paragraph and got an A. If that isn’t “not doing work,” then I don’t know what is.



    • ukjaybrat
      11:06 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

      I agree that logic dictates there were many players that cheated. there’s just no way to “prove” it.
      I also agree that this isn’t a court of law and the NCAA can punish UNC without “proof” as defined by the state, but they then risk being sued (would UNC be so bold to sue the NCAA when they KNOW they cheated? that’s a whole different conversation)



    • ukjaybrat
      11:11 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

      ultimately, i dont care what happens anymore. i really don’t. i do know that the University risks being punished by more than just the NCAA. they could lose their accreditation status which from a money making standpoint, could be even worse than losing wins in a sport. they really screwed themselves here.

      Also, they can NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER say again “we do it the right way” because they cheated for ~20 years and used a stupid loophole to get out of it.



  6. CATandMONKEY
    10:48 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

    Ryan wants to punish everyone.
    Narc.



  7. J-Dub421
    10:53 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

    10 players on UNC’s title team in 2009 were MAJORING in AFAM studies. That’s most of their team. That to me is evidence that they were being steered into those classes.



  8. RealCatsFan
    11:12 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

    Did the NCAA use Lack of Institutional Control against Memphis? They never actually proved that someone else took the ACT for Rose, if I recall correctly. I could be wrong, but as I remember, since Rose would not talk to the NCAA they gave Memphis the hammer. If I was a Memphis basketball fan I would be extremely pissed at the NCAA.



    • J-Dub421
      11:17 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

      If I were Memphis I’d sue the NCAA. They had no proof of anything and vacated Memphis’ entire season.

      The Carolina Way = mass scale academic fraud.



    • RealCatsFan
      11:51 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

      “The school says the only proof of a fraudulent test score comes from a forensic document examiner hired by the NCAA to look at the player’s handwriting samples. She was only able to say that the player’s handwriting “probably” did not match the handwriting on the test. The university says the expert’s conclusion is not strong enough to prove the player knowingly cheated on the exam.”

      http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/news/story?id=4224139



    • RealCatsFan
      11:55 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

      “The committee ruled Rose ineligible because the Educational Testing Service invalidated his SAT score. The score was canceled in May 2008, a year after Rose took the test and after he finished his freshman season. The report said Rose did not cooperate with the NCAA and twice did not reply to requests to meet with the ETS.”

      http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2009-08-20-memphis-ncaa-penalties_N.htm

      Seems like Lance Thomas did not cooperate with the NCAA either, but they sure took a much softer stance for dook.



  9. RealCatsFan
    11:18 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

    Matt, we already HAVE had major scandals with Duke – Maggette and JewelryGate. They just didn’t face any punishment.



    • J-Dub421
      11:20 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

      Duke and UNC are untouchable as far as the NCAA is concerned. The rules are for the rest of us peasants.



    • RealCatsFan
      11:32 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

      That is why it is time for the rest of the schools to have their own “storming of the Bastille” and withdraw from the NCAA. Let UNC and Duke revel in their crooked cronyism with the NCAA by themselves.



  10. RealCatsFan
    11:30 am May 2, 2016 Permalink

    I fully realize that most soccer players are excellent athletes who work hard to excel, but it’s hard for me to take any sport seriously that can end in a scoreless tie. Kind of like cheerleading – I respect the athleticism, but cannot take the competition seriously because the outcome is subjective.



  11. W.C.
    12:42 pm May 2, 2016 Permalink

    Ryan, if you had just used your quick thinking and athletic ability, you would have grabbed his belt and hung on for dear life. It would have been the tightest wedgie ever on film and he would have gone into the mud with you.