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The 5 things you need to know from Governor Beshear and Mayor Gray’s interview about Rupp

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Mayor Jim Gray and Governor Steve Beshear came on the radio show this morning to talk about the Rupp Arena project, and it’s clear both are ready to move past the drama of the past few weeks, namely those letters between LCC Chairman Brent Rice and UK President Eli Capilouto. As Mayor Gray said, “We’re bridge building, not blaming.” While that doesn’t make for very entertaining radio, there were a few interesting tidbits. Here are my five takeaways:

1. Mayor Gray did not want to talk about the letter

From the get go, it was clear Mayor Gray did not want to talk about the letters between LCC Chairman Brent Rice and UK President Eli Capilouto. The one thing he did say was that considering the importance of the project to both the city and the university, “a letter like this is not unexpected.”

Mayor Gray and Governor Beshear repeatedly stressed that renovating Rupp and the convention center is mutually beneficial for the city and the university, hence the need to resolve the problems instead of starting from scratch. About that convention center…

2. Why does the convention center have to be part of the project?

One of the biggest criticisms of the Rupp Project is that the convention center is bundled in with the arena, raising costs and stirring up controversy. Why does the convention center have to be part of the deal? “They’re together because the buildings are together,” Governor Beshear said, adding that since the plan’s inception, the convention center has been part of it. My take? The city really, really wants a new convention center, and knows its best bet for that to happen is make it part of the Rupp project.

3. Why did the proposed state funding move from $65 million to $80 million?

One of the concerns Eli Capilouto stressed in his letter this week was the inconsistency of the financial plan, namely how proposed state funding for the project jumped from $65 million to $80 million in a span of a few weeks. Governor Beshear said that because it’s an election year, the hotel and motel tax in the $65 million proposal became “radioactive,” meaning lawmakers were hesitant to back tax increases. As a result, Governor Beshear said they had to come up with the money to replace the funding from the bed tax, so he upped the state’s funding to $80 million.

4. Both said the “Team Rupp” memberships were UK’s idea

One of the most ludicrous parts of the financial plan were the $300 “Team Rupp” memberships budgeted to raise $25-$35 million. The thinking was that if 100,000 or so fans pledge $300 to the Rupp Project, it would give them an “ownership” in the building, or, basically a piece of paper. Eli Capilouto ripped Brent Rice for the idea, which he called overly optimistic, but today, both Mayor Gray and Governor Beshear said the Team Rupp memberships were UK’s idea.

“We don’t know what caused the university to change its position on this. Sitting in the governor’s mansion around his table last year was when the university said ‘We want to run this. We want to run this Team Rupp project and program. And we’re in it.’,” Mayor Gray said, telling Matt that the university’s marketing firm came up with the plan, which was based on the Green Bay Packers model. In fact, Mayor Gray said the university had confidence in the model.

This resulted in Matt’s first “I like you, but” of the interview. “I like you both, but I think you all are insane if you think 140,000 people are going to give $300.”

5. Matt asked Governor Beshear what his stance was on gay marriage

Oh yes, he went there. Governor Beshear refused to give his personal opinion on gay marriage because he says it doesn’t pertain to the matter, and will defer to whatever the Supreme Court decides.

…This should make for a fun comments section.

Thanks to both the Mayor and the Governor for participating. Hear the interview for yourself:

Also, thanks to Senator Robert Stivers for coming in: BoU9cimIMAAzXSG

Article written by Mrs. Tyler Thompson

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140 Comments for The 5 things you need to know from Governor Beshear and Mayor Gray’s interview about Rupp



  1. DE
    12:04 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Brother Beshear…Get up Delt!



    • Casper
      5:36 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      All of these guys serioulsy need to drop the Sh!tt SH!T…. so tired of these talks. No rupp. I dont want it



  2. NumbersNumbersNumbers
    12:10 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    About the Team Rupp memberships.

    If they want to raise 25-35 millions from those memberships, they would need between 83,333 and 116,666 people to sign up.

    If they want to raise 10 million from those memberships (as projected by Eli) they would need 33,333 people to sign up.

    I like you Matt, but why would you say, “I like you both, but I think you all are insane if 140,000 people are going to give $300.”.

    Who said anyone though that many people would give $300??????

    This debate is never going to be resolved if people like Matt make ridiculous statements like this.



    • Jay_Postoasties
      12:15 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      He didn’t pull out his calculator while on the air, big deal. I think the point was to say that expecting a “huge” number of people to just give $300 for Rupp is ludicrous. Its a dumb plan to consider.



    • Hucklebunny
      12:17 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      If you read the actual proposal for Team Rupp, only $250 of the $300 contribution would go to the renovation project. $50 of the contribution goes to the university. Therefore, it would take 140,000 donations to raise $35M for the renovation.



    • Mxyzptlk
      1:33 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Maybe they should get all 4.38 million in the state to send in $2.28 as a way to raise 10 million dollars. Of course, Louisville fans would probably try to scuttle the effort by sending in only $2.27 hoping that accounting for the missing pennies would shut down the project.



  3. jq
    12:15 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Just another BULLSHIT session!



  4. scorpiocard
    12:16 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    They should have let Clint Eastwood interview Stivers.



    • Megan
      12:27 pm May 24, 2014 Permalink

      Ha! Nice.



  5. Charley Reasor
    12:18 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    The best thing about the program was the absence of Robert “Pork Barrel” Stivers. He will lobby for state funding if the new Rupp Arena is in Barbourville.



    • BigBlueB'ville
      1:22 pm May 24, 2014 Permalink

      I think Charley meant Corbin instead of Barbourville….But, either probably has better parking possibilities than Lexington.



  6. DREWBLUE
    12:30 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Why does it matter what the Governor’s opinion is on gay marriage. He is not to govern on his opinions but by the people of the commonwealth’s.



    • Musehobo
      3:20 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      If this is true, than we can just elect a robot who calculates polls for every decision and makes choices based solely on the results. The fact is that we elect humans based on their opinions, and by doing so, give them personal power to make decisions that directly affect us.

      While the Governor may not ever be forced to act on any items concerning gay marriage in KY (though he may well have to), his opinion does matter. I want to know what kind of person he is, meaning I’m interested in his views on most political subjects. His choice not to reveal his opinion is a political one. By doing this, he avoids unnecessary criticism, though I wish he’d have answered. My guess is, despite how odd it looks, dodging a question like that with a gay mayor sitting next to him, is that he is in favor of gay marriage. But this is not a popular view with many in KY. I’m basing this guess solely on the fact that he is a democrat, though my thought process could be completely faulty, as not all dems feel this way.



    • Megan
      1:27 pm May 24, 2014 Permalink

      No, the Governor’s personal opinion is immaterial. Indeed, the opinion of people in the Commonwealth is immaterial. Perhaps I’m equivocating, but this is a matter of right, not a matter of opinion. Remember how the opinionated South was dragged kicking and screaming to recognize the rights of blacks to vote, to ride in the front of the bus, to eat at common lunch counters, and to marry across racial lines.

      Here’s a little constitutional law for you, compliments of Stokley Carmichael: The 15th Amendment didn’t give blacks the right to vote. “What’s that you say?” Indeed, it wasn’t even written for blacks. It was written for whites. And it says that blacks, as citizens of the United States, have always had the right to vote, and white people can’t deny or abridge that right.

      It’s an amendment that says the rights of citizens are not defined by the personal opinion of other citizens. The 19th Amendment is another example, written for men, saying you guys can’t deny or abridge the right of women to vote, a right we’ve always had as citizens. Sadly, it was widespread personal opinion that made such amendments necessary.

      So when you frame the issue as one of personal opinion, you become an enabler of individual bias, not a defender of rights. It’s important not to confuse the two.



  7. atlantacat
    12:31 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Poor Matt. He just can’t do much of anything without letting his liberal agenda get in the way. Gay marriage? Who cares?



    • asdf
      12:39 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Translation of the governor’s gay marriage answer: “I oppose gay marriage, but I won’t publiclyvsay so because I don’t want the most hateful and intolerant special interest on earth to call for my resignation.”



    • Haha
      12:42 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      He asked him that because Mayor Gray is gay. Very inappropriate.



    • WellAnd...
      1:14 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      He didn’t just ask him that bc the Mayor is gay, though I’m sure that was part of it. There happens to be a court battle brewing on the subject now, thanks to the Governor’s support for the gay marriage ban.



    • big c
      3:00 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      I thought this was supposed to be a site about UK sports. Aww Lawwwd don’t go getting stupid Matt Jones!! You nailed it Atlanta Cat. When I saw the picture of the empty chair I knew immediately that the man being criticized was a Republican. Maybe he couldn’t take time out of his job to be there?



    • Uhh no
      3:51 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      big c – The excuses that Stivers came up with usually were that he was on vacation. He originally agreed to come on the show because he didn’t believe Matt would be able to pull off getting Beshear to join the discussion. Once Matt got Beshear, Gray, and at that time Stumbo, agreed on a date for the show (a date Stivers originally agreed to), Stivers backed out and then wouldn’t agree to any of the other dates Matt tried to arrange usually saying he’d be on vacation. Perhaps they should have used a picture of a man lounging at the beach instead of an empty office chair to portray Stivers.



  8. MtnCat
    12:36 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    What does people’s bedroom preferences have to do with Rupp funding?

    Wrong side of history? Why special rights?



    • jq
      12:54 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Jones wants to know WHEN HE COME OUT OF THE CLOSET!!!!!



  9. Troy
    12:38 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Matt couldn’t help but be a typical liberal asss bag. Gay marriage, about #753,631 on the list of things this nation should be concerned about.

    Hey Matt, what’s your stance on these?

    -the fact that every child born in America should be given a bill from the US gov’t for $117,000 because that’s their share of gov’t gov’t. Liberal war on children continues
    -student loan debt, something that has gone up exponentially since your boi, the American Fuhrer let the gov’t take it over. This actually relates to, you know, UK, moron
    -Obamacare, the VA program for the masses. All the compassion of the IRS with the efficiency of the DMV
    -letting anyone in the world vote in our elections because you liberals tell us that your voting base is too stupid to get an ID, even though no one can function in modern society without one
    -gov’t regulations that cost America $1.86 TRILLION annually, and your boi the American Fuhrer has another 19,000 PAGES coming in the next 18 months. For perspective, the GDP of Canada is $1.82 trillion

    I could go on for pages, but you’re a tyranny loving indoctrinate.



    • MeadeCo.
      12:47 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      That was a lot of effort and typing for something Matt won’t read…



    • RUPPS_rhetoric
      12:48 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      All good points, but the voter ID thing has always rankled me. If you can’t obtain a State or Government license of some sort, then you honestly have no business voting. Yes, voting is a right, not a privilege, and I believe the Government has the right to ask a citizen for identification.



    • Nick
      12:50 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Wow, man.



    • Troy
      1:06 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Also, I crap my diaper every afternoon as I use words in the wrong context like a dipsh!t :'(



    • reality
      1:19 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      So in short (and I mean that literally) what Troy is telling us is that he really enjoys the taste of Karl Rove’s member.



    • Musehobo
      3:23 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      The message board morons are out in full swing today.



    • St Ronnie was a moron
      3:57 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Congratulations. You win the stupidest most bigoted post of the day.
      Your mama must be so proud.
      No wonder the rest of the country thinks that Kentucky is populated by ignorant hillbilly racists.



    • beavis
      8:31 am May 24, 2014 Permalink

      Was wondering how long it would take for the name calling and “racists” comments to start. If you have nothing of substance to say,,,,call them names and try to offend them. What offends me is your vote counts the same as everyone else.



  10. Rei
    12:43 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Comparing Obama to Hitler is silly because Germany actually thrived economically under Hitler.



    • asdf
      1:06 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      They have about the same level of popularity in Israel, however…



    • Rei
      1:11 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Israel is the least of my concerns. Need to take care of us first.



    • asdf
      1:41 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Actually, they just need to leave people the hell alone so they can naturally take care of themselves.



    • js2
      1:43 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Idiotic. Hitler plundered other countries to achieve the appearance of economic growth.



    • Hawkeye Tim
      1:45 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      KSR’s fan base debating politics……this is like a fight to the death with dull spoons….



    • Looks like someone is reading Aryan nation pamphlets on Hitler.
      2:45 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Germany was a sh*thole for the people inhabiting it even half-way through WW II, when Germany was still going strong on the war effort.



    • UKfan
      3:41 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      js2,

      Read what effect the Treaty of Versailles had on Germany and then get back to us about “plundering other countries”. Actually, HItler floated monopoly money (they called it Mefo Bills…basically IOU’s..similiar to what our government is doing). Carry on.



    • beavis
      8:34 am May 24, 2014 Permalink

      Yep,,,,printed so much money the people had to carry it around in wheelbarrows and still could not afford to feed themselves.



  11. Tarzan
    12:51 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Love ur show, I like you Matt, but gay marriage mistake. You should own the mistake and apologize. We don’t come to your show for political views. Don’t go there or u will lose ur listeners



    • hibuk2
      11:49 am May 24, 2014 Permalink

      I agree, I can’t believe he asked that question with Mayor Gray sitting right there. That was absolutely classless. Those gentleman were nice enough to come on the show and then you try to hit them below the belt. Why not ask them what is next to get this thing going? What’s the time frame? Would the governor call a special session. What is the drop dead date? There were so many more questions to ask, and Matt had to go there?



    • ZombieLibrarian
      1:31 pm May 24, 2014 Permalink

      I’d bet dollars to donuts that if asking a politician a question about a political issue, even if it’s on a sports show, is all it takes for you to get ‘outraged’, then Matt Jones would encourage you to please go on ahead and stop listening. *GASP* – it makes me sad that you might have to hear an opinion you don’t agree with, or a topic you don’t want discussed for a minute of radio time. You should really take back all the money you’ve undoubtedly spent with KSR every time you’ve clicked on the website or listened to the radio show. That’ll teach that dirty libruhl fruitcake Jones!



  12. J. Stewart
    12:52 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Y’all some angry conservative MFer’s. LOL Must suck to be that angry all the time. Don’t you all ever get tired of bitching and moaning and crying and whining?



    • Rei
      1:01 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      The dying of conservatism will do that. Thankfully it’s just baby boomers on welfare who are on this site whining.



    • asdf
      1:13 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      It does get very frustrating seeing America, once the greatest, most capable society in all of human history, devolve into a population of helpless, uneducated cattle.

      If the men whom we remember on Memorial Day had been able look into the future to see the future generations they were dying for, most of them would have refused.



    • asdf
      1:26 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      To me, the funniest part of the whole “gay marriage” debate is that they want government recognition. Historically, the fact that regular marriage is state recognized is not a plus, but a burden placed up on the couple by intrusive government regulation. Prior to this relatively recent move by the states, marriage was recognized by only the couple, their community and, if they were religious, by their church. There was no role for government at all. Gays are free of all this government interference and they WANT to be put into the same cage as the rest of us. The rest of us should be wanting the same right to escape government regulation as the gays have! It’s all bass ackward.



    • asdf
      1:28 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      nevermind, I forgot how stupid I am.



    • asdf
      1:38 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      *Adopting some else’s identity in a juvenile, failed attempt to be funny and mock them is essentially an admission that you yourself have nothing to add to the discussion and that you can’t refute what they have to say.



    • asdf
      2:05 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Mommy!



    • asdf
      2:10 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      My real name is Elihu Smails. Anybody want to go golfing?



    • Chris
      2:35 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      its funny how intolerant people who support gay marriage are !!!



  13. Taylor
    12:53 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Thank you for asking the question about marriage equality – it’s good to know that their are influential people in this state who care about equal protection for homosexuals. The 14th amendment should apply equally in Kentucky as it does in Pennsylvania or Hawaii.



    • asdf
      1:17 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      There is no actual stated guaranteed legal right for an individual to marry in any state. The states are not constitutionally compelled to recognize any marriage of any kind, but choose to do so for their own interests (historically, for reasons of taxation). It is not really a right at all.



    • MattP
      2:10 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      True. But once the states recognize marriage (whether it be for their own interests or the citizens) they must recognize it equally.



    • Megan
      1:53 pm May 24, 2014 Permalink

      Liberty and equal protection are explicitly protected. It’s not a matter of states’ rights. It’s the supreme law of the land.



    • Tom Seaver
      3:44 pm May 24, 2014 Permalink

      If all marriages must be recognized equally, why is it that some states do not let first cousins marry? Isn’t that unequal? And if first cousins can marry, why not brother and sister? And if we aren’t going to let first cousins marry, aren’t we treating some relationships differently? And what if someone wants to have multiple wives? Husbands? I’ve never gotten a tolerant, open minded liberal to adequately answer any of those questions.



    • An observation....
      5:03 pm May 25, 2014 Permalink

      asdf – it is also a matter of language. Before there were any marriage laws on the books, marriage was between a man and a woman – there weren’t any “same sex marriages” then either. Why? Because people understood that only a man can be a husband, and only a woman can be a wife. Now you are a bigot, hateful, etc. if you acknowledge this simple fact. When laws were put on the books, there was no mention of gender because the word marriage was enforced as the word was defined – defining it as being a man and a woman is redundant. It is totally absurd that constitutional amendments or laws ever had to be passed to define the meaning of a word that was already defined.

      The same way of thinking has led to the recent ruling by the Maine Supreme Court on a 5-1 vote that it is illegal to not allow men to enter women’s restrooms and vice versa if they claim they relate more to the gender of a particular restroom designated for them. California now forces boys sports teams to admit girls, and girls sports teams to admit boys if they feel like they are the opposite gender “trapped” in the wrong kind of body. So it is entirely possible that a boys team could have all females on the team and a girls team have males on the team under this policy. This is the type of logic we are dealing with from the left — they think this craziness makes perfect sense — and if anyone dare voice disagreement with it — they are branded as hateful bigots. These same people want to ban therapy for people who don’t want same-sex attractions, but want therapy and cosmetic surgery for people who don’t want to accept the gender they were born as — and want taxpayers to be forced to pay for it — liberal judges recently ruled that it is unconstitutional for taxpayers not to be forced to pay for such “treatment” for prison inmates. We aren’t dealing with people who’s elevators make it to the top. The liberals literally think this stuff makes sense, and those who disagree with this complete craziness are “backward”, “Neanderthals”, etc.



  14. Rexwore3
    12:54 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Thought the interview was very informative on the Rupp funding issues. However the question of gay marriage to Governor Beshear was unnecessary..Thought it was a little unprofessional to ask his personal opinion “twice.” I know journalists want answers and if they don’t get it the first time around, they are persistent until they get it. He answered the question and that should have been satisfactory. I realize these two politicians are professional, but considering Mayor Gray is gay, Beshear had to answer carefully and it may have been a bit awkward if he had given his personal opinion.



    • asdf
      1:07 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Sports journalists are not “real” journalists, and KSR and not even real sports journalists, so don’t hold them a standard that they don’t even claim to match.



  15. Zach
    12:56 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    What inappropriate thing was Ryan doing to force that young girl in the photo to make such a face?



    • Catpocalypse
      1:21 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Jigglin’ his wee-wee to the tune of “It’s a Small World Afterall”.



  16. Ryanthe wimp
    1:00 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Even I am ashamed of Matt on this one, but if I say anything he will only chastise me again.



  17. Project DOA
    1:03 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    “Rice’s plan is as riddled with holes as were Bonnie and Clyde. If the plan is not quite dead, it is not far from flatlining. Political will is lacking in the Kentucky General Assembly while the political capital of the University of Kentucky has been conspicuously withheld. Recent correspondence between Rice and UK President Eli Capilouto reveals a testy impasse with no easy path to resolution.

    If a deal is to get done, it is bound to be a harder bargain than Lexington’s leadership originally envisioned. Whether Rice can find adequate funding sources that are agreeable to UK is at least questionable. Whether UK may choose to build its own on-campus arena is at least possible. That the two sides have ceased cooperating and begun casting blame, though, suggests divorce proceedings instead of a marriage of true minds.”

    And all Matt Jones is concerned about is Gay Marriage ????? Geez….



  18. Laker Cat 18
    1:05 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Before the interview, I ranked the given politicians #1 Beshear, #2 Gray, #3 Stivers. After the interview, I rank the given politicians #1 Beshear, #2 Stivers’ empty chair, #3 Gray.



  19. Mac
    1:15 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Pretty much what I expected. Words spoken, with little said.

    I’m not opposed to gay marriage. I don’t support gay marriage. I oppose people who support or oppose gay marriage. Because those sorts of people tend to be a little too self righteous. (Big…Fish…Eye at someone NOT named Jatt Mones)



  20. Chad
    1:18 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Why didn’t Matt ask Mayor Gray his personal opinion on gay marriage?



    • unreconstructed
      1:24 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      ^^^^^
      This!!.
      Also Beshear should have bitch slapped Jones for that typical leftist, libtard, looneyass question that had NOTHING to do with the reason for them being there.



    • asdf
      1:32 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      When America needs an enema, Fox News is where they insert the tube.



    • BillDozer
      1:34 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      unreconstructed….I agree. Beshear was very cordial in giving that question a response. He could have very easily told Matt he is out of line to invite him on his show to talk on a sports issue and then seek a public position on an extremely heated and career assisinating issue. However, it is an ok question if Matt forewarned him that he would ask that question. Otherwise, not one of Matt’s better moments. He would have been better served to ask that question privately.



    • Probably because he has stated his open support for gay marriage.
      2:49 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Seriously, do you conservatives even think before mashing keys like drones?



    • Chad
      3:14 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Why do you liberals stay mad all the time and insist on name calling? It was a joke. Lighten up and turn off CNN.



    • You think CNN is liberal?
      4:07 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      You’re even dumber than you look — and you look REALLY stupid right now.



  21. UKBlue
    1:29 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    How do any of these people have jobs or even worse get through a single day? !! If the UK membership thing would have been handled better with word being put out that it was UK idea instead of a politicians, then it might have worked. It really might have worked if the Big Blue Bullhorn known as Cal would have come out supporting the idea.



  22. GoBlue!
    1:51 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    The convention center has to be part of the deal, because it’s currently attached to Rupp and the current design calls for Rupp to be made into a free-standing building – separated from the Hyatt and the convention center. If that’s going to be the design, then the convention center has to be rebuilt somewhere…



    • AndyP
      7:00 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Bingo, GoBlue. Matt can’t get it through his thick skull that Rupp and the Convention Center occupy the same building. I love the design of Rupp as a free-standing building and you can’t get that without the Convention Center being moved to another location.



  23. Charles Barkey
    1:57 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    That question was turable!



  24. Taylor
    2:00 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    In response to “asdf” – you are disingenuous in stating that there is no stated guaranteed legal right to marry; In his opinion from Loving v Virginia, Chief Justice Earl Warren said “marriage is one of the basic civil rights of man…” Individual State’s attempts to “define” marriage should be equally applied to all legal consenting sexual orientations. There is no secular definition of marriage limiting it to opposing sexes.



    • asdf
      2:07 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      But the acknowledged human right to marry only means that humans have that natural right regardless of government. In a state of total anarchy where no government existed, they would still possess that same natural right. That is not intended as a statement about whether or not government codifies marriage into law, which government goes not as a right, but as a burden placed upon those getting married.



  25. asdf
    2:07 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    “does” instead of “goes”



  26. Beatle Bum
    2:10 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Eli did not say UK did not come up with the brick idea, but said they expected it to raise under $10,000,000. That means they probably hoped to sell about 25,000. The idea was a big part of the fundraising for the Ellis Island rehab. Not a crazy idea, but a bit overused since Iaccoco’s team utilized it around 1990.



    • AndyP
      7:08 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      No you’re wrong. UK came up with the idea and thought they could raise 25 to 35 million. Big chunks of the Capilouto letter are disingenuous.



  27. Beatle Bum
    2:15 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    For the life of me, a lame duck governor’s position on gay marriage asked on a sports radio show just makes no sense to me. Seems like an attempt for Matt to be the news. I enjoy the show, when I can listen, but that is whack



  28. MattP
    2:17 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Does anybody else think that maybe the reason Stivers is opposed to the Mayor’s proposal is because of his sexual orientation? Just a thought that popped into my head during all of this. Woudl it be a far reach to think that a republican politician in a heavily republican populated state would oppose a gay mayor’s proposal? Maybe I am out of line for asking or think this but I think it maybe ought to be discussed.
    Another thought – do you think Mayor Gray asked Matt to ask the Governor about the gay marriage issue? I would think that the Mayor would like to know the Governor’s position since he is in fact a gay man.



  29. I can't help
    2:26 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    But wonder if Eli is starting to look at UKAthletics as one of his best potential resources for funds to improve the campus infrastructure. He’s already getting $66 million for a science building from UKAA. Maybe he is thinking if he can build an arena on campus the school will get all the money from luxury boxes, parking fees, possible alcohol sales if the SEC ever approves it, concessions, etc.



    • AndyP
      7:11 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      You’re living in lala land if you think Capilouto is going to support the expenditure of hundreds of millions of dollars for an on-campus basketball arena. He couldn’t be any more clear that he believes there are far more important things to spend money on than a basketball arena. He’s the primary reason this project is dead. The BBN needs to wakeup.



  30. UKNeal7
    2:28 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    So the governor basically expressed the same answer as the architect caller from yesterday? The caller that was bashed and picked apart by Matt and callers after.

    I’m with you all on just about everything for this project but the fact is the buildings are connected and to renovate one without the other would be very inefficient.

    Did the city intentionally plan that when originally building the convention center? Maybe. But it’s still a fact that the two buildings are connected and to renovate one means you need to renovate the other.



    • AndyP
      7:16 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Bingo, UKNeal7. Leave it to Matt to argue with an architect about something so fundamental. It’s laughable that Matt characterizes Brent Rice as a guy who thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room because, let’s face it, Matt believes he’s the smartest guy in the room and there’s only room for one of those in any room.



  31. Pcefrog5
    2:30 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    What this State needs to do is follow Colorado’s lead and legalize marijuana across the board. Research just how much additional revenue that has produced for that state thus far. I would love for this state to be at the forefront on this economic boom just waiting explode rather than the being one of the last states on board. Do this, and asking for state funding will not be an issue. I applaud the hemp initiative, but expand the legalization across the board and this state just might obtain a surplus for projects like this.



    • Mxyzptlk
      2:43 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Marijuana already adds about as much to the economy as it would were it legal. The only difference is that it is not taxed now, so how would that impact things? If that additional tax money meant the rest of our taxes would be lowered by the same amount, great, but we all know that it would only mean more spending, more programs, more waste. So nothing would really change much at all economically.



    • Mxyzptlk -- you're joking, right?
      2:51 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Colorado’s economy has gone on a HUGE boom following the legalization of pot. Do you think people weren’t growing/selling/using it before in Colorado?



  32. wayne mason
    2:34 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    of course the governor id for gay marriage he is a ignorant democrate



    • Rei
      2:41 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      I get what you’re doing and its really funny.



    • Musehobo
      3:27 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      I’m going to take that bet and go with “this is an actual post by a legitimate Republican”.



  33. realme
    2:40 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    I came back from a meeting just in time to hear your #5. Then when people complained about the fact that “he went there” all the people who can’t tolerate differing opinions started name calling on the show thread. I got so irritated I turned off the show and left the thread. I love KSR, because it talks about sports, UK, funny stuff, and heartwarming stuff. I hated today that Matt chose to inject politics/social issues, for any reason. It’s just not fun to listen to.



  34. Blake
    2:41 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    I don’t like Matt much but I have to admit he did a nice job on this one. He cornered both of them and forced them to obviously avoid direct questions. However, I wish he wouldn’t have taken the last question about gay marriage so far. That’s a social issue, not an economic one, and so I think keeping personal opinions to yourself and letting judicial bodies dictate the moral line is acceptable.



    • Mxyzptlk
      2:45 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      And being that the last question was not really UK sports related, was it really important enough to merit air time anyway?



    • Big Blue Coming At You
      3:27 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      It actually is an economic issue given that married couples and families get tax breaks and other benefits. Why can’t there be marriage between men and women and give gay couples a legal partnership with the same benefits as married couples and families? That would solve the issue. Bigots and religious folks can keep their marriage sacred while gays can be happy too.

      And when is it acceptable for the government to dictate anything? They don’t know their head from their rear. When a politician is asked a question, they should answer it. When they don’t answer it, the answer is obvious anyway.



    • Megan
      2:17 pm May 24, 2014 Permalink

      Separate but equal wasn’t the answer then, and it’s not the answer now.



  35. papasnapp
    2:58 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    I’m no architect, but I sure do not understand what the convention center being physically connected to Rupp has do to with anything. My kitchen is physically connected to the rest of my house, but I can remodel it without remodeling the rest of the house. Anyone out there that can explain the logic used by yesterday’s call from the architect and the governor?



    • CPACAT
      4:00 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      I’ll take this one…Imagine you have an old pole building on your property. You decide one day to take half of that old steel building and tear off the steel siding, and build office suites, and hotel rooms, and a casino with an exquisite Las Vegas style lobby, etc. With the other half of the building you leave it as it was..an old dilapidated steel building. Same issue here. The convention center sits on about two sides of Rupp Arena. To truly open Rupp’s concourses up, remove exterior walls, etc you have to deal with the two sides that are against the convention center.

      So you choice is, do we renovate half of the concourse (leaving the other half cramped and dark) or do we include a rework of the convention center in the plans.



  36. Dallas
    3:05 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    I would give my $300 if I get a paper that says I have a part in the building.



  37. Yeezy
    3:09 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Good lord, everyone complaining about the gay marriage question, saying it isn’t sports related and shouldn’t have been on the air. Do you people listen to the show other than today? They OFTEN talk about things that aren’t related to sports…like music, tv shows, nose whistling, people getting arrested for stupid stuff, etc. Just be honest, you all didn’t like the question bc you are bigots, not bc it wasn’t UK sports related.



    • Chad
      3:10 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      What about when the topic of Benghazi was brought up and Matt said “this is a sports show”

      Am I a bigot because I don’t agree with your opinions?



    • UKriverboater
      3:19 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      You’re a bigot because you discriminate against gay people.



    • BobbyBlue
      3:24 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      How did I discriminate against anyone? What did I say that was offensive? See ya later riverboater.



    • Musehobo
      3:37 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Does BobbyBlue = Chad?

      Yeezy has a good point. Most of the people arguing “why are we talking about this” would be the first person to eagerly get involved in a political topic if it was over gun rights.



  38. colbert
    3:10 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    will they let gay couples in the new Rupp arena?



    • BobbyBlue
      3:11 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Yes but they will be allowed to use the restrooms.



  39. Big Blue Coming At You
    3:16 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    It’s all politics that are getting in the way of Rupp being renovated. Just like true politicians, they didn’t answer dick. They dodged every question. I got nothing out of that interview but politician speak which is exactly what i knew would happen. You can’t get the truth out of a politician because they don’t want to upset potential voters.

    It’s funny that every time a politician is asked about gay marriage, they dodge the question. Matt didn’t ask Beshear how he thought the Supreme Court would rule on the issue. He asked the man if he supports gay marriage. Beshear just should have said no because his answer was obvious by dodging the question.



    • AndyP
      7:21 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Hey, BigBlueComing, it’s not politics getting in the way of Rupp being renovated it’s Eli Capilouto and you know why? Because he believes there are more important things to spend our money on. Cal want UK to be the gold standard of college basketball. If being the gold standard includes having a top-of-the-line arena to play in then Cal isn’t going to reach his goal because Capilouto is standing in the way and has no intention of moving to the side. The BBN needs to wakeup.



  40. BobbyBlue
    3:22 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    I think its safe to say KSR has about ran its course. Matt’s idea for KSR was outstanding and he built it from nothing. I think its safe to say, KSR has more follwers than most mainstream media outlets that cover UK sports. Truly remarkable.
    But Matt’s one-sided political agenda has killed the fun of KSR and its dreadful. Some of the current writers are equally as bad. I hope new fan-sites pop up and give KSR some competition. It may do Matt some good.



    • Big Blue Coming At You
      3:35 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      I don’t agree with Matt’s leftist views and his choice in president which doesn’t make anyone that voted for the man look good. But i thought he did a great job today and even threw in a curve ball with the gay marriage question. Both politicians just danced around the questions like i knew they would. When that happens, you can’t trust them. When someone can’t give you a straight answer, you can’t trust them. At least when you get a straight answer, you can hold them accountable.



    • Musehobo
      3:39 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Well, it was a good run while it lasted. OK Drew, turn off the servers. KSR is dead now. BobbyBlue said so.



    • Conservatism is dying.
      4:13 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      KSR will be here long after you and your lot are finally kicked out of people’s bedrooms and private lives.



  41. Maggy Longfellow
    3:24 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    It is apparent that Mayor Gray is trying to extort money from UK. UK lease went from $2MIL per year to $10MIL per year and Lexington wants more? It is time to stop corporate welfare in Lexington. Rupp must pay for itself out of private funds period. Currently Lexington has five TIF Projects on the books (CentrePointe, 21st Century, etc.). What happens with TIF projects is that tax dollars are contained in the TIF districts for 30 years and nothing goes into the general fund. Property Taxes within the TIF districts do not go up one cent during the thirty years, while property taxes outside the TIF districts go up exponentially to fund the TIF Projects owned by private individuals. Taxpayers be damned. If the Governor is depending upon a basketball team to turn around the economy of Kentucky he needs to take his meds and face reality.



    • Uhh no
      4:09 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      The $10 million was only if Rupp was renovated and the money would be offset by UK getting money back from luxury boxes, advertising, etc. That money was supposed to be used to help pay off much of the debt of the Rupp remodel. As it is the current lease will remain in effect.
      BTW are you even aware that Rupp and the Community Center are owned by the city? They are not private businesses. How do you consider them corporate welfare?



    • maggy longfellow
      8:01 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      The cowardly Uhh No still has it all wrong. The Lexington Center Corporation owns Rupp Arena and the Shops and the Community Center and the Opera House etc.. The LFUCG is not to be a profit making enterprise so they invented the Lexington Center Corporation, much like the University of Kentucky invented the UK Athletics Association which operates under its own rules and does make a profit.Stop Corporate Welfare.



  42. Mark
    3:55 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Wonder what Matt’s stance is on CN2 smacking his butthole with an open hand?



    • Curious
      4:07 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      LOL, never heard that one before.

      Before I cant take CN2 seriously, they need to change the name to something other than KSTV. Get your own name. I like Beisner though.



    • Okcats
      6:39 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Im sure they smacked his butthole after the performances he gave on air. That stuff was unwatchable.



  43. Curious
    3:58 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    What did CN2 do?



    • NeoGeo
      4:04 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Evidently they smacked his butthole with an open hand.



  44. CPACAT
    4:03 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Why don’t we kill two birds with one stone. Allow gays who want to marry to come to Rupp, when it is not being used for KY Basketball, and get married in mass ceremonies..paying $500 per couple to get married. We’d raise those funds in no time and could defease some bonds while we are at it.



    • BobbyBlue
      4:11 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Does that 500 include wedding pictures. Asking for a friend.



    • TPACAT
      1:58 pm May 24, 2014 Permalink

      Because only 2-3% of the population is gay. Although, you’d think it’s more along the lines of 50-60% by listening to the liberal media…



  45. Zach Galifianakis
    4:17 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Mayor Gray is a gay?



  46. East Kentucky Infidel
    4:22 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Rupp Arena is a college gym, that is all it will ever be.
    Dust off the a/c ducts and retire “big bertha”, that will make a world of difference in the ambiance.
    Reduce UK’s lease, save the taxpayers another boondoggle, and pay the place off as fast as possible. Then let’s talk about the secure future. Rupp Arena is not payed for yet! Get real. Those fifteen basketball players are playing in one of the best facilities in college basketball now. Louisville can keep the Yum and eventually choke on it.

    With all the problems in the region Rupp Arena ain’t one of them.

    $350 million in public money becomes $500 million real fast in a politician’s dream project, and this is what this is becoming. We can do a lot better with less.



  47. Bec
    4:23 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Is it football/basketball season yet? Nothing to hear here, folks. Disappointed in this site. Brought out the worst in you today.



  48. Not Dan Issel
    5:07 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Let’s go back to Memorial Coliseum. Duke seems to be doing just fine with Cameron Indoor Stadium. Imagine what a real home court advantage UK would have back in Memorial.



    • AndyP
      7:24 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      I suspect Capilouto would be just fine with your idea.



  49. maggy longfellow
    5:19 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    DUH! Rupp Arena is a quasi Government and Privately held venture with private management and scheduling etc.. And who paid for Rupp Arena? Once again the be damned taxpayer. And if the city of Lexington does not have the money to build Yum Center Two, why are they asking for TIF from the State? Oh that is right the private sector purchases all the tax free bonds. Gray and his contractors rack in all the money. Hope you can afford your new property taxes.



    • MtnCat
      7:49 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Rupp Arena is not paid for yet. Never will be, there will always be “revitalization”.



  50. katfaninyourface
    5:46 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Matt is just hoping he doesn’t have to move to get married.



  51. Tony
    6:34 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Matt Jones is such a goober.



  52. Alan
    7:15 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Matt,
    I genuinely love this show and appreciate the ridiculous manner in which you present everything UK and Kentucky related, BUT (you knew it was coming) you asking the Govenor about Gay marriage was totally inappropriate. Why would you do that? Its hard to judge motives and I think one must be careful in doing so; but I have to think that you had an agenda behind it. This is not a Civil rights issue like the media is trying to portray it. I know that you may think what I’m about to say antiquated but I’m not worried about being on the wrong side of history; I would be worried about being on the wrong side of God and His Word!

    I’m sure that may not sound sophisticated enough for you and I know that you don’t really care about people like me who make comments like this. As you say, “they don’t have to listen.” All I have to say is be care what you wish for.

    Again, I genuinely love the show but if this continues to be a conversation about gay marriage I’m done listening.

    Have a great weekend and know i am praying for you.

    Blessings ,
    Alan



  53. Paul
    7:50 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    I don’t think gay marriage is healthy for the culture of the nation, but I believe it’s a matter for the Church to influence rather than government. In any case, I don’t understand the idea that Matt can only ask about sports stuff and that a public leaders opinions are irrelevant- the are absolutely relevant and are fair game at any time. I’m disappointed the states leader is too spineless to stand by his conviction, whatever that may be. Being against gay marriage isn’t bigotry if you treat the subject and those affected with love and respect.. it’s just an opinion rooted in the Christian faith. The Bible is rather clear on the subject. You can have Christian faith or not, it’s a mostly free country.



  54. RedStateNightmare
    8:00 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    Matt’s last question was most interesting part of interview. I think he also should have asked governor if he would support a proposal to somehow implant a device in televisions that would cause people that watch Fox News to go sterile. The counties that accept the most federal aid in this state are the reddest counties of all. And this jack wagon above me getting all preachy. I assume you banish your woman when she is having her monthly and you’ve never eaten a porkchop right? If you’re going to spout your verses you can’t be selective.



    • MtnCat
      8:48 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

      Your information is flawed and so is your reasoning. Facts are optional in your argument, they don’t fit your scenario.



  55. Bros
    8:46 pm May 23, 2014 Permalink

    When will everyone realize that marriage is just legalized prostitution?? Smh