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Purdue Football has become a Problem

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When Mark Stoops and Vince Marrow began recruiting at a rate unequaled by their predecessors, only the big dogs — namely Ohio State and Alabama — stood in the way of Kentucky’s Big Dog.  Now there’s a new kid on the block raising hell in the recruiting world: Purdue.

The artist formally known as “Purdude” has turned into a recruiting nightmare for Kentucky.

In his first season as the Boilermakers’ head coach, Jeff Brohm compiled a seven-win season that ended with a thrilling bowl victory over Arizona.  Riding a wave of momentum, Brohm has made quite a few splashes on the recruiting midwestern scene.

It began with Rondale Moore.  A four-star Army All-American, the Trinity slot receiver flipped from Texas to Purdue just ahead of National Signing Day.  At the time it was perceived as a miraculous flip.  It actually was just the beginning of a blazing hot recruiting season.

Brohm has deep-rooted connections within the state of Kentucky that could pay dividends at the right time.  For the most talented in-state recruits, it’s always been a battle between UK and UofL.  Now it’s a fatal three-way with Purdue in the 2019 class, the most talented group the Commonwealth has produced in years.  J.J. Weaver and Wandale Robinson have already been to West Lafayette for official visits.  Milton Wright has taken almost zero visits, but he’s been to Purdue.

It does not take a wise man to presume Brohm — a former Mr. Kentucky Football, UofL starting quarterback and WKU head coach — could recruit well in Kentucky, especially with a new facility and a ton of on-field momentum.  However, a few recent recruiting decisions have sent a shockwave through the midwest.

In two weeks, Purdue has landed a pair of commitments that were perceived to be heavy-leans to Kentucky.  The Boilermakers went to Detroit, a territory where UK has recently made a lot of noise, and picked up a commitment from four-star safety Marvin Grant.  It happened only a few weeks after Grant was expected to announce a commitment to Kentucky.  Last weekend Ohio defensive end Dontay Hunter, Benny Snell’s former high school teammate, picked Purdue over UK.  Huh?  Since Hunter’s decision, six others have committed to Purdue, increasing the Boilermakers’ total to FIFTEEN commitment in the month of June.

Purdue is riding a wave of recruiting momentum that resembles Mark Stoops’ meteoric rise in the midwestern recruiting scene.  Each program sold a new facility with a rising, innovative coach where players can leave a lasting legacy by turning around a program.  In the interim, Kentucky has adjusted by investing more in the deep south, picking up three commitments from the area in the last week.

As West Lafayette has transformed into a popular destination, Kentucky has taken some lumps.  UK football can’t afford to take too many more.

*** If you’ve ever listened to a KSR Football Podcast, you’ll know that the Brohms are my cousins.  That doesn’t change what’s happening on the recruiting scene in the Midwest.  


Article written by Nick Roush

"Look upon the doughnut, and not upon the hole." @RoushKSR

47 Comments for Purdue Football has become a Problem

  1. Headhurts
    1:18 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

    Brohm’s offenses put up points and move the ball effectively even before he recruited like this, Kentucky must do the same, good recruits want to play for offensive minded coaches that aren’t afraid to mix it up.

  2. shepdog3720
    2:08 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

    My guess is Brown will be gone in a few short years coaching a different team, and that team might very well be Louisville. If not UL, it will almost certainly be somewhere other than Purdue.

  3. JTA
    2:21 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

    Yea, now he just has to hold onto all of them….

  4. Rembrandt
    2:30 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

    I agree with the columnist’s thesis about Purdue, but I think this is a snippet of a larger question.

    Purdue has signed a couple of players Stoops wanted. But Stoops is not dependent on players being recruited by Purdue. Filling recruiting classes is a much larger proposition. Having watched Stoops’ recruiting behavior the last several years, I think he understands that he can’t put all his chips on one state or one pipeline. He hired Michael Smith to open up Louisiana and Arkansas. Clink is recruiting Michigan. He turned Eddie Gran loose in south Florida, and Matt House in Georgia.

    There will always be competition. Purdue is one little part of it. A much bigger question is whether Stoops can sell high school players all over the south on the advantages of playing at UK, and that means taking full advantage of his current roster. Stoops needs a big performance this year, and we just have to see if he can pull it off.

  5. kjd
    2:40 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

    Jeff Brohm can be called innovative. That’s not an adjective I would use for Mark Stoops. Brohm’s style is exciting. Stoops is not. Players don’t like sitting on a lead. You can also earn a spot in the BCS in the Big 10.

  6. IAmTheDanger
    2:46 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

    UK should NEVER lose a recruiter to Purdue, I don’t care who is coaching there and especially an instate recruit. No facilities excuses anymore….UK is in the strongest football conference in America by far, we have the facilities and the fan support. So someone tell me how we lose an instate recruit to an Indiana school.

    • k3ntucky_jer
      3:50 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      I guess you forget Purdue is a football school! Just because we are in the best conference does not make you better. Its more about the style of play for each recruit.Do some research about a school then comment!

    • IAmTheDanger
      4:00 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      Yeah I forgot that Purdue is a powerhouse football program in the big 10….do you actually follow college football?

    • IAmTheDanger
      4:03 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      Your “football school” went 4-5 in the conference this past year. There’s my research!!

    • bigbluebanana
      4:37 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      I took it as they were commenting in historical terms, not necessarily recent terms. Historically, they have more wins, more conference titles, more bowl game wins and the same amount of claimed national titles. And I believe they’ve had a football program longer than UK has too. I see your point, but their point captures the bigger picture.

    • unbridled
      4:30 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      Purdue is not at the top of the big 10…..but their program is light years ahead of Kentucky. Football recruits would be crazy to select U.K. over Purdue. Sorry. Facts are facts.

    • IAmTheDanger
      5:35 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      Conference Record for the last 10 years:


      Light years ahead…..hmmm

    • bigbluebanana
      7:29 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      That puts them at 22-60 in the last 10 years, UK is 21-59

    • IAmTheDanger
      7:38 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      I am NOT comparing records here. I am saying UK should NOT be losing recruits to Purdue and you are saying they are a “football school” Football schools don’t have a decade of atrocious football….UK is not considered a football school by any measure. What aren’t you understanding here??

    • unbridled
      7:34 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      Have you looked at U.K.’s conference record? Yes Purdue is much more relevant than U.K.

    • IAmTheDanger
      7:42 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      I believe you said Purdue is light years ahead of UK in football…..I’m going to do you a BIG favor here and not argue with you because you’re not backing up anything you say and you are looking foolish….you should thank me.

    • unbridled
      7:50 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      First, Purdue has a strong tradition. Second, they just hired an up and coming coach that has proven to be a talented head coach. U.K. not so much. Good luck with that.

    • unbridled
      7:59 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      Purdue has 12 conference titles. U.K. has 2. Purdue has a 607-560 record. U.K. is 597-608. Purdue is 10-8 in bowl games. U.K. is 8-9.

  7. krautdog
    3:00 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

    Brohm comes from family steep in football tradition, going all the way back to Oscar & Flaget High School in Louisville. He will do well, recruit well & cause problems for Stoops & KY recruiting no matter where he coaches!

  8. bigcatrob227
    3:05 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

    I’m not sure which is more moronic: thinking that UK was on their way to recruiting like Alabama and Ohio State, or thinking that the only reason they haven’t gotten there is because of a school like Purdue. How abusrd

  9. Catcasey1
    3:30 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

    I wish we had Brohm and not stoops

    • krautdog
      3:55 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      Now THAT’S an idea worth pursuing!

    • unbridled
      4:31 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      Culture change for the better, over night. Why do they keep rewarding his mediocrity with contract extensions??

    • UKPROF
      9:42 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      Brohm would be an awesome hire, however, and unfortunately, UK is now small potatoes for Jeff Brohm. Jeff has 1 more year or Purdue (max 2) and then every big time program in the country will be evaluating their coaching situation. Brohm will be able to pick and choose, whatever he wants. Could Brohm remove UK from a SEC bottom feeder? Absolutely! But it can never happen now. As WKU head coach, his teams were WELL COACHED, exciting, wide open, smash mouth, in your face football, and he is doing the same thing at Purdue. An outstanding coach, yes, but Jeff Brohm has no need for UK.

  10. kybigblue
    4:17 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

    Stoops needs a good year to help his recruiting. If he doesn’t improve his record this year I don’t see him getting to the next level. The question is will UK be okay with just making it to a bowl game or do they really want to compete for the SEC East title.

    • unbridled
      4:33 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      I don’t think they care. Stoops just wants to keep his job and the school just wants people to show up at Kroger field.

    • UK Big Board Update
      5:50 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      LOL. I’d love to see unbridled make that statement in front of Mark Stoops, Vince Marrow, etc.

    • unbridled
      7:35 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      I would gladly like to personally tell him that he’s in waaaaay over his head. Can you arrange that for me?

    • unbridled
      7:38 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      Keep embracing embracing mediocrity. Let’s reconvene once the season starts. The schedule does not look favorable. I stand by my assertion.

    • UK Big Board Update
      9:22 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      No, you wouldn’t. LOL

    • unbridled
      7:27 am June 24, 2018 Permalink

      Yes…yes I would. I would love to.

  11. Rembrandt
    4:46 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

    I would rather have Stoops than Brohm, and I will explain why.

    Patience is a virtue, but a lot of people will always bend over to pick up the shiny penny. Fans should know by now that sudden program turnarounds with arrival of new coaches are often signs of trouble. Like Hugh Freeze at Ole Miss, Butch Davis at North Carolina, and Al Golden at Miami. Older UK fans haven’t forgotten how Fran Curci got UK into trouble.

    Another poster said Brohm comes from a “football tradition”. Let’s clarify. Brohm is a product of a terribly corrupt culture in Louisville. Why anyone here wants anything having to do with Louisville is one of life’s mysteries. Stoops is carefully following the rules at UK. Stoops’ progress ihas been steady and undeniable, and you have to have an angry agenda or be a complete novice to miss it.

    Stoops wants to be at Kentucky, and would like to finish the job he has started here. Brohm is using Purdue as a stepping stone, and will dump them without a moment’s hesitation as soon as he sees a new job he likes.

    I am not satisfied with 7-6. I don’t know for sure yet if Stoops can do better. But I think he can, and he has earned that opportunity. The unappreciative vocal minority in our fan base that enjoys talking down Stoops may not be sharp enough to get this, but they are hurting the program for all of us.

    • kjd
      5:36 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      Stoops came right in and began recruiting better than previous coaches. By your logic, he’s cheating.

  12. kenny
    5:04 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

    If you’re can’t beat him, hire him.

  13. UKWildcatNation
    5:49 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

    I know I’m in the minority here but I am a Stoops fan and applaud where is has gotten the team from where it was when he got there. However, having said that, he is not a flashy coach nor does the team play that way. He’s an old school coach who wants to run the ball and play solid defense. I just have NEVER understood how much a defensive minded coach can have such a bad defense consistently. It’s not like we haven’t had good, really good, defensive players! And how in the world do you allow what happened last year against Florida.
    This is a make it or break it year for Stoops. Now I know he hasn’t had the best quarterbacks to work with (a good QB can make any coach look good), but he has to get it done! The offensive coordinator (and co-coordinator) is in 3rd season, Matt House is now has a full year under his belt handling the defense, and we have talent…no excuses! I appreciate the efforts in having back-to-back winning seasons, but the fans want more than a 7-5 team that loses a bowl game.
    I’m excited for this year, and I am hoping that coach stoops and the team can make that next step!

    6:06 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

    Brohm comes from Louisville, he probably cheats, and lays with ugly whores. Who cares about him.

    • bigbluebanana
      7:31 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

      By that logic, aren’t we all from Louisville? I mean, yeah, who cares about him.

    6:52 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

    Flash in the Pan all Brohm is.

  16. Dowser
    7:48 pm June 23, 2018 Permalink

    LSU needs to do some firing and hiring.

  17. Irish son
    7:41 am June 24, 2018 Permalink

    I bet a Brohm coached team won’t leave a wide receiver uncovered TWICE in one game

    I bet a Brohm wont have 9 guys on punt coverage

    I bet a Brohm coached team wont consistently still get false start penalties 9 games into the season

    I bet a Brohm coached team won’t consistently mismanage the game clock at the end of the half/game

    I could go on, but you get the point

  18. notFromhere
    6:12 pm June 24, 2018 Permalink

    Same blah blah blah…

    “UK should never…, .. better ___ soon…”