Katina Powell just wrapped up her interview with Matt on KSR, and it’s all anyone in the Commonwealth can talk about today. Nick will have full video up on the site soon, but until then, here are some notes….
Who was the player that first opened to the door to Minardi Hall?
One of the most interesting moments of the interview came when Katina described her first trip to Minardi Hall. She said a player opened the door for the girls, but apparently Chuck Smrt, the investigator UofL hired to look into the allegations, told her it was a different player than she originally thought.
“We were let in by a player,” Powell said. “I don’t want to say [which player] because once I spoke with NCAA — or Chuck Smrt — he said it wasn’t the player that I said.”
That means that Smrt knew a player opened the door, validating that it did, in fact, happen.
The line heard around the Bluegrass
I’ve already posted the quote everyone in the state’s talking about, but because of that, it’s worth repeating. Powell said that she dealt with Andre McGee until McGee left Louisville for the University of Missouri-Kansas City, after which she dealt with “Coach Mike,” who had some very interesting demands for her.
“He was just telling me the type of girls that he wanted. He wanted white girls with big butts and big breasts and girls that could squirt to the ceiling and you know, things like that.”
ðŸ˜³ This will rank up there with “down my leg” and “15 seconds” in UofL quotes I can’t unhear.
The ledger was compiled later
Powell brought her journals with her to the show, and a big point of contention since the book came out was that the ledger (record of payments) looked as though it was done all at once, not after each show over the years. Powell confirmed that she compiled the ledger in 2013 from years of notes.
“Yes, and let me explain that. It was done in one sitting,” Powell said. “When I say that I did it as a I went, if you look at the top of my journals, you ‘ll see the amount that was paid at the top. I went back because I wanted to count up how many times I’ve done it and how much was paid and that’s how I did it. Then I sat down one day and went back in all my journals and counted up how many times I did it and how much I was paid and that’s why it was written in one sitting.”
Powell also confirmed that the $10,000 figure she mentioned in the book was only money SHE received, not money that was paid to other dancers.
Powell says she had a sexual relationship with one of the players
But declined to say who.
Peyton Siva only came to one party
Powell confirmed that Chane Behanan, Montrezl Harrell, Russ Smith, Chris Smith, Terrence Jennings, George Goode, and Wayne Blackshear all attended parties, and that Peyton Siva only came to one, near the end.
“He came to the last — close to the last party. He was leaving and he came in and we were shocked because he never had come to parties. You never see Siva. He came to that one party and that was it.”
Powell said that more players attended the parties than the ones she listed, but she couldn’t keep track.
“Right, there were a lot of players that came in,” Powell said. “The only one that I could say that wouldn’t come was Siva because, you know, once you see a lot of the players, you start to think they all look the same, as far as a lot of the white players or — I knew pretty much all the black players. I’m not trying to be racist. I knew the black players. Some of the white players would just step in, come in and do various things and leave back out.”
Powell’s answer about employing her daughters
Powell has been honest and up front about the fact that her daughters performed in shows for her. Today, she maintained that her daughters were “grown” (18 and over) when they started performing, but that one was 17 when she “started picking up money.” The question many of us have been asking is, as a mother, how could she willfully employ her daughters in activities like this?
“My daughters wanted to do it is what people don’t understand,” Powell said. “It was kids their age. They were high school kids, they were coming into college, this was a college setting, the guys weren’t that much older, they were not 17 and having sex with anybody.”
“A lot of parents don’t want to see a lot of their kids do a lot of things, but that’s just the cards sometimes that we’re dealt. I have good girls, I really do. I have really good girls. They’re smart. They don’t get in trouble — well, I can’t say they don’t get in — they do what average kids do. To say that I feel bad, I can’t say that I feel bad because I didn’t make anybody do anything. I never prostituted anybody, I never made anybody do anything. My girls begged and begged me for years to go. Finally, I’m like okay — the other were like, ‘let them go, let them go,’ so.”
Powell estimated that “7-8” members of the 2013 National Championship team participated in parties
Based on the players she’s already listed, I think you can guess who.
She feels bad for Damion Lee and Trey Lewis
Of course, the real losers in this whole mess are UofL fifth-year transfers Damion Lee and Trey Lewis, who were not part of the program when any of it happened and, because of UofL’s self-imposed postseason ban, won’t be able to play in the NCAA Tournament. Powell said that while doesn’t have a lot of regrets, she does feel bad that Lee and Lewis will miss out on the tournament.
“In a sense, I do have some regrets about what I did. I don’t feel like I did the wrong thing. I feel like a lot of people were punished that were innocent,” Powell said of Lee and Lewis. “They did nothing. I didn’t know of those guys, they had nothing to do with this. They had nothing to do with it whatsoever. It seems like it comes down on me because they can’t play in the tournament and you know — all of this. I do feel bad for them. Again, they had nothing to do with it and I never sanctioned those boys.”
She’s received threats
Powell said she plans to stay in Louisville, and for the most part, she only gets stares from Louisville fans when she goes in public; however, she did say that sometimes, she doesn’t feel safe.
“In a sense, sometimes. Sometimes I don’t feel safe. I get threats all the time. I’ve had a local radio station, 104.7, give away Bryson Teller tickets if someone could tell them my address.”
She feels bad for Andre McGee. Pitino? “No comment”
Powell wanted to clear up rumors that she and McGee were romantically involved, telling Matt and listeners that the two were simply friendly business partners.
“Andre and I had no relationship. We had no love affair, we didn’t have any of that. It was just business.” Katina said. “He called me and asked me to do business and I did exactly what I was asked to do. That was the bottom line.”
However, Powell said she does feel bad for Andre for having to go through this. Pitino? Ehh…
“No comment,” Powell said when asked if she felt bad for Pitino. “No comment.” Matt pressed her a little further, to which she finally said, “Do I feel bad? No.”
Check out that glance she gives her lawyer:
Interesting glance between Katina Powell and lawyer when asked about Pitino pic.twitter.com/xbY499spKs
— Tyler Thompson (@MrsTylerKSR) February 9, 2016
Later on, Matt asked if Powell was mad at Rick Pitino, and while she said she was not, she did admit she doesn’t like some of the things Rick has said about her in the media.
“I don’t. That’s his opinion. I’m not mad at Rick Pitino. I have no reason to be mad at Rick. Rick has done nothing personally to me. I’ve never talked to Rick, I’ve never had conversations with Rick.”
How would she feel if this scandal caused Rick to resign?
“That wouldn’t be my call, and I wouldn’t — I have no comment.”