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Lexington Federal Judge rules Kentucky can allow in-person church services

Photo: @GovAndyBeshear

Photo: @GovAndyBeshear

A Lexington Federal Judge has ruled that the state of Kentucky can allow churches to hold in-person services on Sunday, instead of the initial May 20 start date.

The Courier-Journal writes that Tabernacle Baptist Chruch located in Nicholasville, KY won a temporary restraining order preventing the orders put out by Gov. Andy Beshear to ban in-person services. All churches across the state can now hold in-person services. U.S. District Judge Greg Van Tatenhove made the ruling on Friday evening.

[Courier-Journal]

Article written by Zack Geoghegan

Recruiting reporter for KSR. Follow me on Twitter: @ZGeogheganKSR

66 Comments for Lexington Federal Judge rules Kentucky can allow in-person church services



  1. FatDaddyCat
    10:20 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

    Sure is a sad day. All those testimonies have heard my whole life about do unto others, love for my fellow man, giving to those less fortunate all just got thrown out the window. Never mind bout that virus going round killing folks and all, collection plate is empty. Let’s use, have services , get infected and spread it to the rest of our community. I am a God fearing man, but organized religion and politics just make everything worse than it already is.



    • cats646
      9:32 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

      Dude if you don’t wanna go then don’t. But don’t tell other people they can’t. This is America you know.



    • kjd
      9:43 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

      So what magically will change on May 11, FatDaddy? Now or then. No difference. Remember, judge stated CDC guidelines must be followed.



    • satcheluk
      7:23 am May 10, 2020 Permalink

      Agreed! The selfishness in some comes out in times of tragedy. Now you see their true stripes. Christians in name not deed.



  2. CrystalBall
    10:27 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

    Just because the Judge ruled in favor of the services, doesn’t mean everyone will attend. We can hope that all will still use good common sense and protect themselves and others by staying home.



  3. jetatl
    10:30 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

    Religion will be the death of our country



  4. WatchutalkinboutWillis
    10:46 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

    Churches should not be forced to be closed by the government and we Christians should have enough sense to not meetin large groups and contribute to the spreading of this disease. It really is pretty simple.



    • njcat
      11:46 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

      They key element of your thesis is it’s weakest aspect. ‘Should have enough common sense’ is a low bar to exceed, but somehow evangelicals never seem to get there.



    • Cousins Fake Tooth
      11:55 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

      Nor do you liberals. Signed, an Atheist Independent.



    • channell
      5:05 pm May 9, 2020 Permalink

      So njcat how many evangelicals do you know that don’t seem to get it. I don’t know of one that wants to infect another person. Most or maybe all know how to social distance. Do you think because the doors are open that all will flock to the church. You can’t get all there on a normal sunday. Most elderly including me are going to give it the wait and see. Most churches can get all members in even if 33% is the max and allow the spacing too. Exceptionally large churches can have split services or allow the excess to go to other parts of the church such as fellowship hall and watch the service. So your mentality is still assuming that they are little country churches with a small building and outdoor toilets. This way your freedoms are intact. No one is forcing you to leave your house. I would bet if your local gun store had a 50% off sale on ammo but only allowed 10 at a time in that you would be there standing in that line and practicing social distance. I’d probably be in line with you.



  5. jukeydpt12
    10:53 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

    No politics will be the death of this country not faith in god.



    • WatchutalkinboutWillis
      11:01 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

      What people who hate religion don’t understand is they have a religion themselves. The religion of self. They are their own god. And as their own god they can make up rules as they go and they don’t have to make sense. For instance, I’m sure they hate this ruling. But when someone wants to pray in school I bet they scream for “separation of church and state!”.



    • 2andToodleLoo
      11:19 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

      Faith in God is one thing. Cult of religion is another. Most “Christians” should be called “church goers” bc they act NOTHING like Christ. They’re more interested in worshiping a man-made cult than truly acting like Christ and following his teachings.



    • Han
      11:50 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

      Everyone can pray in school.

      What you’re not allowed to do is force people to be a part of your religion.



    • friendsofcoal
      1:56 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

      Jukey, you’re spot on!



    • 4everUKBlue
      9:01 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

      Amen brother and it already is killing this country.



  6. ColbyKiller
    11:21 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

    Thank the good lord for somebody finally opening their eyes and doors, to churches especially. I’m ok with anyone who wants to stay at home and away from other people. That’s their decision. I’m not going to run around trying to cough on people. The information coming out daily about what is going on is there for those that look. The virus is real, I’m not saying it isn’t, but why we can’t celebrate that projections of how bad it is and how to handle ourselves during this are wrong, I’ll never understand. It doesn’t have to be political, religious, or anything else. It is a great thing that this is not what they’ve thought it would be! It has nothing to do with social distancing or wearing masks. Where I work has had several of the first Kentuckians be diagnosed with it. We have not shut the doors and have been working this whole time but haven’t had a new confirmed case in roughly three weeks in the entire county, and we have not been wearing masks. Yet starting Monday we have to start wearing masks from the moment we leave our vehicle in the parking lot even though we’re running the same production we have since this has started without masks. Let’s be glad we can finally start living like free humans again. This is a good thing!



    • njcat
      11:48 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

      Freedom to infect others and die a lonely death. How Christian of you.



    • Han
      11:52 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

      The doctor said I was sick and made me take medicine. Now I’m not sick! See, the doctor was wrong!

      First, 70,000 people have died in the US in spite of all the efforts we’ve taken. So far. If we’d done nothing, if we’d let sports keep going and not done social distancing and masks, then you’d have seen quite how bad it would’ve been.



  7. Jambluehue99
    11:24 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

    People want to have their cake and eat it too. They say they don’t believe in God, and then do everything in their power to remove Him from the public square. They spend a lot of energy trying to deny something they say they don’t believe in and seem to have an unhealthy interest in denying others the right and freedom to believe. Should churches begin gathering in large numbers? Maybe maybe not. But they should not have to meet restrictions other organizations do not have to meet. Does Walmart clean their restrooms after each use? And how can the government deprive anyone from singing songs, which is an integral part of worship and religious expression? That is blatantly unconstitutional. More lawsuits to come, no doubt. We live in dangerous times. If you are willing to give up your freedom for security, you will quickly find you have neither. Do we need to be careful and take the virus seriously? Yes. But at what cost?



    • ColbyKiller
      11:34 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

      Amen!



    • njcat
      11:51 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

      Believe whatever you want to believe. It’s a free country. Buy you do NOT have the freedom to recklessly endanger others.



    • Jambluehue99
      12:18 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

      With freedom comes responsibility. But if we give up freedom for the protection we think we are getting from the state, we will find we have made a grave mistake. What happens when we do start socializing, even under the gradual reopening guidelines, and we all start getting sick because our immune systems are weak from being cooped up and not exposing ourselves to bacteria and viruses that build our immune systems? We will look as favorably on the quarantine then as we do now? How many will get sick and die form that? Will politicians stand in front of cameras and give that death count on a daily basis? Likely not. Kids get sick when they start school because they have been sheltered, relatively speaking. That’s what we have done to ourselves over the last two months. I do believe in God. He is my savior. I hope you find Him too. Does my rights get to be exercised at your expense? No. But government can not take my right in the name of protecting everyone else, especially when it is incapable of doing so.



    • BluKudzu
      12:21 pm May 9, 2020 Permalink

      “Do we need to be careful and take the virus seriously? Yes. But at what cost?”

      Human Life? Other people’s health?

      Just spitballing here, since over 70,000 Americans have died and over a million are infected, and the numbers grow by thousands every day.



  8. UKCatAttack
    11:37 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

    Thank goodness for the checks and balances of our government. Judicial branch holds the executive branch in check. Government should not be able to ban church, force businesses to close, or anything else that impedes our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.



    • Han
      11:58 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

      Checks and Balances have failed time and time again lately because large swathes of people put party over country, party over people, party over common sense.



  9. Cousins Fake Tooth
    11:53 pm May 8, 2020 Permalink

    But its perfectly fine for Beshear to have house cleaners, chefs and everything else come to his place of residence, but everyone else shouldn’t do that. Hypocrite. (New Courier Journal article)



  10. Southky
    12:14 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

    Just wondering, to all you folks howling at the moon over this ruling, how many of you have been to Walmart or Lowe’s lately? This is a real virus that has unfortunately killed people. So has the flu, H1N1, SARS, MERS and many other viruses. This one has unfortunately been over politicized and overblown. No where in the 1st Amendment of the Constitution does it say “unless there is a virus.” I’m sure you are fine going to Walmart to get groceries or supplies and I’ll guarantee you will come into close contact with 5 times as many people than in 90 percent of the congregations in this state. If you are scared, sick or at risk stay home. It’s time to end this charade and start living life and exercise your Constitutional rights many men and women have died defending.



  11. Jambluehue99
    12:25 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

    Look at the number of cases and deaths at long term care facilities and prisons. Then compare those totals to the overall state totals. A number you never see is the total active cases. They just want to talk about total cases. That data is two months old and irrelevant. It is obvious that a statewide quarantine may not have been necessary. We have essentially attempted to drain the ocean because someone peed on the beach.



  12. friendsofcoal
    2:03 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

    Did I hear that in NY if an elderly person died from pneumonia then the cause of death was automatically covid-19? If so, then who knows what the real numbers are.



    • 4everUKBlue
      9:06 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

      That’s how they’re getting the numbers. Coronavirus is one of the most common viruses and there are many strains, even healthy people have coronavirus in them so if you die with it you willed coded as dying from it….not quite the same thing. Doctors are being told how to code deaths and it’s all spelled out on the CDC website.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsRay1wInBg



  13. Grazilla
    6:46 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

    Is that Nutter Fieldhouse hospital full?????



    • 4everUKBlue
      9:09 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

      It’s empty just like all the other hospitals and hospital staff are being furloughed. My father’s hospice nurse told me the hospital where she works has furloughed over 150 nurses and the hospital is empty.



  14. dcforuk
    8:08 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

    Most people believe, as I do, that the pandemic is a real (not a fake pandemic) and serious problem AND that the economic shutdown is a real and serious problem. There is a small minority that want to only think it’s like the flu and, therefore, nothing should be shut down. There’s another small minority that think a full lockdown is needed until a “vaccine” (let’s instead call it a “shot”) is available. The economic ramifications are devastating. The whole thing is extremely traumatic for many people. For those of you who have lost a loved one suddenly, that trauma is real and difficult and sadness and darkness are experienced. The tough reality is that some of the answers represent management of the tension that exists versus solutions to the problems that exist. There’s nothing wrong with wanting solutions. Sorry, none of that has anything to do with this blog post does it?



    • 4everUKBlue
      9:10 am May 9, 2020 Permalink


    • JATR4
      10:13 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

      You posted something from March. Think that doctor still has doubts. The top hospital in the world the Mayo Clinic is in his state. He could ask them if this pandemic is serious. They do!



    • dcforuk
      9:55 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

      Thanks for the video and link! I agree that of the three categories I describe above, the two categories that have a smaller minority percentage respond in fear to each other. Those in the third category agree with certain parts of categories one and two but absolutely not all parts. It is YES AND, not YES BUT. The cure absolutely can be worse sometimes than the disease. The leaders respond to the citizens’ request that something must be done. As with so many of your challenges and my challenges, we ought to get on our knees and seriously seek guidance from above and from each other. That’s YES AND, too!



    • dcforuk
      10:00 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

      BTW – I do believe absolutely that that doctor received that memo from the health department instructing them that it is OK to rule a death COVID-19 without definitive knowledge. The circumstance that he described very well could’ve been a COVID-19 death so the reality is whatever approach they take will either understate or overstate the deaths. It would seem like the health department memo intentionally was trying to overstate the deaths, Which is cause for some concern



  15. rlee7932
    8:13 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

    Excellent, what better way to raise the cumulative IQ of the state.
    Please proceed



  16. Racerr11
    9:34 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

    It’s about time somebody over ruled Mr Rogers he’s a power freak. If you want to live in fear that’s your business. If you want to ignore all the false information we have been given go ahead. Lot of deaths being documented covid 19 deaths when some were never tested and had nothing to do with the virus. Id say very few have died from the virus.



  17. Racerr11
    9:36 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

    We have become a dumb country and believe anything were told. 99% survival rate and many of you give up your rights and freedom .



  18. BlueBanker18
    9:41 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

    Sure why not, I’ll throw in my two cents. I’m glad those involved pushed back against the state and won. The government does not need to have that type of power, and that’s just my opinion. That being said, I hope those involved are smart enough to educate their congregations on the risks of attending, and strongly recommend that those who are at-risk or have frequent, direct contact with someone who is at-risk should continue to stay home. If they choose not to follow that recommendation, that’s on them. We should all be held responsible for the choices we make rather than having our choices made for us regardless of the circumstances. Who says there can’t be a middle ground?



  19. Racerr11
    9:46 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

    Large percentage do not believe this is real. I believe it’s been blown way out of proportion but I do believe it has killed people but nothing like it’s been made out to be. Telling people not to shake hands, stay 6ft apart, go certain directions in a store , asking us to wear a mask , can’t go camping , can’t go to restaurants, telling you not to go to other states, and on and on. Sounds like the government wants to tell all of us what to do. I’ve been in stores and people wearing mask are about 30% people not wearing about 70%



  20. Racerr11
    9:48 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

    To the judge who ruled in favor of in person Sunday service. Thank you for doing your job.



    • Skooms
      11:16 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

      It’s amazing how many people that felt this virus was overblown, have changed their minds after someone close to them caught it, died, or barely survived. Do a little research and see how many citizens called AIDS “gay cancer” for the first couple of years. Then low and behold, MANY straight people caught it and it became a big deal. Look this virus like almost all others, $UCKS. I feel bad for ALL of the government branches right now. It’s currently impossible to find a happy medium. You open too soon and you tick off half the population, stay closed too long, and you tick off the other half. You seriously CAN’T win!



  21. J. Did
    11:19 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

    It is a virus.

    One either has developed immunity, will develop immunity and recover…or will perish.

    One can not run or hide from it.

    But social = ‘societal’ distancing merely delays the inevitable.

    Folks at risk need to take heed and mitigate risks.

    However, the economy should suffer no more.



  22. madarchitect
    11:32 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

    Reading these comments reminds me that while Kentucky is a beautiful place, most of the people living there are definitely not forward thinking.



    • Jambluehue99
      11:38 am May 9, 2020 Permalink

      Please explain.



    • dcforuk
      2:16 pm May 9, 2020 Permalink

      Well why don’t you enlighten us with your omniscience and wisdom then Instead of using such a broad brush! Seriously!



  23. BluKudzu
    12:32 pm May 9, 2020 Permalink

    “We have become a dumb country and believe anything were told. 99% survival rate and many of you give up your rights and freedom .”

    300.4 million Americans.
    1%= 3.4 million Ameicans.

    You are ok with that?

    And they let you vote, by alcohol and drive a car.

    Trumpluddites are the most dangerous creatures on earth.



    • CrystalBall
      12:45 pm May 9, 2020 Permalink

      With the possible exception of those who use “by” instead of the correct “buy”.



    • Jambluehue99
      12:48 pm May 9, 2020 Permalink

      Assume the 1% is accurate. That is based on known cases. Studies have shown the infection rate is much higher than anyone expected, so the death rate is actually far below what the data currently shows. We saved some lives by shutting down, but ruined many others. When it’s all said and done the cure may be worse than the disease. If that turns out to be the case, I’m sure all the Chicken Littles will come back and apologize.



  24. travbub
    12:54 pm May 9, 2020 Permalink

    It’s each individual’s choice to attend a church service. It’s their right as Americans, their right as a human being. All anyone can do, no matter the situation whether it’s attending a church service or going to the grocery store is the be safe, utilize precautions such as their masks and be aware of their surroundings and other people. Because you know what, the good lord is the only chance we have to rid the world of this virus.



  25. travbub
    12:55 pm May 9, 2020 Permalink

    We are all in this together at the end of the day!



  26. dcforuk
    2:22 pm May 9, 2020 Permalink

    This is an extremely difficult predicament. Let’s re-state the obvious for a moment. The two risks related to the current situation are inversely proportional to one another. As you decrease one risk, you arguably increase the other risk. Would protecting the vulnerable and relying on heard immunity for those not squarely in the “vulnerable” category make the two risks MORE directly proportional and less inversely proportional?



    • dcforuk
      2:23 pm May 9, 2020 Permalink

      Whoops – Siri is as bad a listener as me. “Herd” not “Heard” !!



  27. channell
    5:13 pm May 9, 2020 Permalink

    If you are not infected how can you infect someone else? I see comments that assume people with viruses are going out to purposely infect someone. If I’m sick i’m staying home if not I am a free person to move about as I please. Last time I check flu season didn’t put your constitutional rights on hold and no executive order is law.



  28. Joe DBBK
    6:18 pm May 9, 2020 Permalink

    One way a person who is not infected can pass along the virus is through contact with an item, surface or other person that has the virus located where you could come into physical contact with the virus. Then unknowingly you could pass it along to a person who later might not practice hand washing and touch their facial area.. I understand the virus can live on a metallic surface for up to two or three days in some instances.
    Channell, you may be well aware that this virus has shown it can infect a person without ever showing any signs of sickness or symptoms of the virus. Because some people are infected but don’t know it, they may feel like they are not a danger to spread the virus. Unfortunately they can and without being tested, would be unaware of the risk they pose.
    That is the reason that even though I feel okay, I wear a mask in public where I am around other folks, while still practicing social distancing as best I can, I don’t see that as anything other than a responsibility I have to my fellow citizens, I wish you and yours good health.



  29. Blue Ender
    6:52 pm May 9, 2020 Permalink

    MONEY!



  30. panicpat
    10:14 pm May 10, 2020 Permalink

    Thank god. Finally a reasonable decision made. These far left liberals make me feel embarrassed I am a registered democrat.