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Lansing State Journal warns Tyler Ulis he’ll be discarded at Kentucky

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Tyler Ulis and Devin Booker are currently visiting Michigan State before they head to the Bluegrass, and the Lansing State Journal has a word of warning for the pint-sized point guard. In a column this morning, Graham Couch warns Ulis that he should be careful about Kentucky because it’s “a program that doesn’t take his kind very often and, history shows, has no problem discarding what it doesn’t want as soon as it doesn’t need it”:

This Sunday, he ought to touch the court in Lexington and channel a “Hoosiers” moment: “This one is for all the small guards who never had a chance to get here.”

And then Ulis ought to be careful.

Because Kentucky is a program that doesn’t take his kind very often and, history shows, has no problem discarding what it doesn’t want as soon as it doesn’t need it.

Seriously? Couch says that Ulis could get the shaft if Andrew Harrison decides to come back for a second season, or if Cal recruits the number one point guard in 2015 and Ulis sticks around for his sophomore season. He argues that Ulis will get pushed to the side in the one-and-done system, whereas at Michigan State (or Iowa), he’ll get a more rewarding, 4-year experience:

Ulis would be wise to make sure he doesn’t jump at the glitz and prestige of his latest suitor at the expense of his college basketball experience.

I think Couch is the one underestimating Ulis here. I doubt Cal would be recruiting Ulis if he didn’t think he was capable of competing with the best. He’s already said that Ulis plays bigger than his size, and the offer alone should count as a vote of confidence.

This just makes me want Ulis even more. Come on down and enjoy your weekend, Tyler.

Article written by Mrs. Tyler Thompson

No, I will not make you a sandwich, but you can follow me on Twitter @MrsTylerKSR or email me.

44 Comments for Lansing State Journal warns Tyler Ulis he’ll be discarded at Kentucky



  1. Lip set
    1:07 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    Truer words have never been spoken! Cal dont like kind nor the smart slow kind! Ask wiltcher



  2. Woosley
    1:07 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    Got my football season tickets and big blue madness tickets today. THX KSR



  3. J in Orlando
    1:10 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    Clearly that “journalist” was well trained at the Forde/Crawford/Bozich School of Objectivity in Journalism



  4. Azubuike's Bicep
    1:11 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    1- Who is Wilcher? Additionally, it would be, “Cal DOESN’T like….”

    …Swing and a miss.



  5. Michael
    1:17 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    The guy writing for the Lansing State Journal makes decent points. He fails to mention the benefit of testing yourself against the best in practice everyday. He also fails to mention how prolific Cal’s “history” of getting point guards drafted in the first round is. And the biggest problem I have with his logic is that Ulis isn’t guaranteed to start his entire career or not get recruited over at MSU either! If you want the blanket of being assured playing time Ulis you can always go the DII route; Kentucky isn’t for everybody, but we would love to have you.



  6. Michael
    1:22 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    And Cal didn’t discard anybody in my opinion. Both Harrow and Wiltjer were recruited over and left on their own accord. If you want an example of “discarding players” just look @ Pitino’s handling of Swopswire or Buckles.



  7. Shane
    1:26 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    The guys right. You may not agree with it but it’s the truth. Ask Ryan Harrow.



  8. Real UK Fan
    1:36 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    #7. I would totally disagree with you. Ryan Harrow discarded himself. If you recall he couldn’t make up his mind whether or not to even start the season. Then when he did he obviously realized he didn’t fit in. You can blame Calipari if you want, but if Harrow had worked he would still be there.



  9. Musehobo
    1:36 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    Ugh. This is spin.

    1. Cal recruits over you VS you have to earn your spot (and you won’t be booted like Rick does)

    2. Glitz & glamour VS actually developing and making money in the NBA

    3. UK doesn’t “take your kind” VS UK wants the best players

    You can spin almost anything. The only real truth here is that you have to work hard to play. You aren’t guaranteed a starting spot based on your recruiting rankings (which is true for most big named schools). It’s simply fans of another team trying to convince a player they want, that UK isn’t right for them. Cal will be straight with him, and he’ll make the decision on his own.



  10. Brad
    1:38 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    Honestly it’s fair. I can’t really blame another program for using that agianst us. I see no reason for outrage. It’s part of being King.



  11. J in Orlando
    1:41 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    7 Actually, that’s your opinion. Here is the truth…you don’t know anything about what happened, so your opinion is no better speculation based on nothing.



  12. Nick Papageorgio
    1:45 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    9 – Well said



  13. Han
    1:51 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    Michigan St. has had some problems with guards in the recent past, too, don’t ya know.



  14. trey
    1:55 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    hasn’t MSU always played a physical style? How does that work out for Tyler there compared to Cal’s system?



  15. UK
    1:58 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    Warning: Don’t go to UK unless you are a stud so you can’t be recruited over. Harsh words from opposing coaches. I guess we’ll just take all studs.



  16. LA
    2:00 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    Nothing like schools attacking because we are too glamorous. What a douche.



  17. Jason
    2:05 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    That is an interesting recruiting pitch from a fan:

    “Kentucky is where NBA ready players go, and frankly you’re not. You won’t get to play if one of this years guards stays and you may not get to play the next season if he recruits over you. Frankly, you can’t compete at Kentucky, so don’t try. Come to Michigan State where second tier players go to have fun for four years and fade into obscurity.”

    If that doesn’t inspire you to attend Michigan State, I don’t know what will.



  18. SeoulCat
    2:15 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    #17. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.



  19. backhanded
    2:23 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    if anything, this writer is crushing the kid with what he thinks is sage advice or spin to choose MSU, when in fact, its really just helping to put UK on a higher pedestal while also giving the kid a pseudo bitch-slap. (I thought about calling it a backhanded compliment, but that wouldn’t even be accurate.)

    The writer is essentially saying, in nicer words:

    1) UK gets the best, and you are not the best, so come here

    2) You have no real prospect to live your dream by making the NBA and getting paid handsomely to play a game for a living, so why not put your focus into 4 years of college hoops and maybe find a swell job selling insurance, or maybe balling in Turkey sometime in 2020

    Lastly, I’m not going to say that Michigan State doesn’t get attention from NBA teams. That’d be wrong. It’d be both arrogant & ridiculous, especially coming from any UK fan. I’m sure the Spartans get at least one or two NBA scouts/personnel at most games, and their games are readily available on National TV 10-15 times a yr. But the way Calipari is going, there will be 5-10 NBA scouts/personnel at every practice for at least the next 2 or 3 seasons. They will be at practices to assess work ethic from the highest echelon lottery guys (like Randle, Harrisons, Towns, etc). 10-15 NBA teams will probably be represented at every UK game. No less than 25 games will be on National TV each year.

    But even a player who doesn’t see much action on the court during games, will still be able to showcase their NBA potential due to the matchups in practice everyday. (see: Orton, Kanter, WCS if he had chosen to leave)



  20. bigcatstanding
    2:41 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    #7 do you even think before speaking or just let it flow, because dumber things have very seldom been said. Ryan Harrow had an opportunity to reach the stars, and never left the ground. Wiltjer was lazy on defense and thought being a better than average shooter was all he needed. even with Kyle Wiltjer and his own issues coach still gave him every opportunity. Ulis on the other hand isn’t afraid of contact, and has all aspects of the game that a great point guard should have.Ulis is a great passer penetrates and scores at will no matter the size guarding him, has one of the best stop in the lane floaters, since Wayne Turner that I can remember. Ulis pay the idiots no mind and please choose Kentucky coach wouldn’t be recruiting you for practice we have walk ons!!! GO BIG BLUE



  21. satcheluk
    2:42 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    I found nothing offensive about what the author had to say which was basically, don’t go to UK if you don’t believe you are good enough because if you fail to live up to coach Cal’s high standards he will recruit over you and you will get no playing time, so you should come to MSU where are talent is less intense and you won’t be challenged so strongly for your spot.

    Well, that about sums it up. It’s nice to hear it spoken so eloquently by one of our rivals.



  22. Marcus L Owens
    2:48 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    Big risk big reward.



  23. bigcatstanding
    2:49 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    #19 get in there ass, that’s the best of not saying while saying it all. yeah they get, then it’s just a bone know meat right*¤â˜†



  24. prpcat
    2:51 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    Haters gonna hate, players gonna play it is good to be the king



  25. Bunny
    2:53 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    #5 and #9 – well said!



  26. Mike
    2:58 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    We do not discard players so long as they are putting forth their best efforts.



  27. bmt22033
    3:10 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    #17 hit the nail on the head. It’s like the author of that article is saying “you’re not good enough to go to UK but MSU is a great fit for you!”. I wonder if Tyler Ulis thinks he’s “good enough” to play at Kentucky…..



  28. JEREMY
    3:18 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    I would take that as a insult if i were Tyler. So is this journalist saying that Tyler isn’t good enough to play at KENTUCKY? I would take it that way… This kid sounds and looks to me like a competitor, so who ever else Cal recruits will have to beat Tyler out if he comes here, just like the other two schools on his list. Its like that at any school! Its amazing to me the tactics and just how low some of the media at these other schools will go to paint UK in a negative picture! Just let the kid decide for himself, cause in the end its HIS futre and HIS decision!



  29. G
    3:33 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    Anybody that thinks those words aren’t true are just identifying themselves as homers. You all know this is true.



  30. BlueRanch
    3:48 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    Because Miller, Polson and Harrellson never got a shot.



  31. Troy
    3:49 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    One year at UK with a Cal coached team and all his uber talented players with the rock star lifestyle would be better than 4 years at MSU.



  32. Lip set
    3:55 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    20) seems I remember fools saying the same exact things about Larry bird! If wiltjer was at DUKE where his type is appreciated then he would be an all American! You probably are still one that thinks not hiring Petrino was a smart move!



  33. Lip set
    3:58 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    4) there same reason nerds were an outcast in high school still hold true today! …..Swing and home run!



  34. hey LIP, do you have a brain
    4:14 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    So do you talk out of your backside often LIP? You seem to know a lot about Duke basketball and their “type” of player, when you seem to know very little and bring zero knowledge to the table.

    How is Wiltjer’s situation different from Amile Jefferson? Amile was a top40 recruit, 6’8″ 4-star guy. He played 12 mins a game his freshman year. If that doesn’t improve this year, he’ll probably leave Duke. If he doesn’t knock down shots, he won’t play.

    How about Michael Gbinije? A top35 recruit…4star 6’6″ small forward? Averaged 6 mins in 19 games, and has already transferred from Duke.

    What about Alex Murphy? A top45 4-star guy. 6’8″ shooter. He redshirted a full year, then averaged 6 mins a game…and will also transfer if he doesn’t see more time this year.

    If your argument is that Duke finds a way to use all their players, your dead wrong.
    If your argument that guys don’t leave Duke the way Wiltjer chose to leave, you are wrong.
    If your saying that Coach K finds a way to play guys that can’t play defense, you couldn’t be more wrong.

    On almost all accounts, if a player is supposed to be a knock-down shooter (Wiltjer)….then proceeds to not knock down open 3s, they probably won’t play as much as they initially planned.

    Find a better argument, or at least an argument that begins to make a little bit of sense….troll.



  35. the realest
    4:19 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    number 30 Harrellson only played because we didn’t get kanter



  36. bigcatstanding
    4:25 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    #32 what the hell are you talking about did we not hire Patino. Was I excited when we were Landing all that talent and winning, yes I was do I think Pitino is a arrogant pompous prick yes I do. Doesn’t change the fact that there never was a choice for me to agree or not agree about hiring Ricky. woke up one day and here he was,so what is your point. Kyle Wiltjer with his work ethic, and non existing defense wouldn’t start at Duke either. And as far as Larry Bird goes where does that fit in what I’ve been saying. For one i can’t believe 10 people hasn’t attack your comment based on Larry Bird and Kyle Wiltjer being in the same paragraph. Anyone that has watched Kyle score 8 points, then give up 12 on defense knows he isn’t a fit for any division 1 college. BBN IS CBB ILF#9



  37. Al/in/Indy
    5:05 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    Bigcatstanding…I’m toasting my first beer of the day to you…..CHA-BEERS!



  38. Tim Kathlina
    5:40 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    The article is correct, Cal will recruit the best, Ulis will have to earn playing time. Take this year for example, can Ulis compete against a 6’6″ NBA level point guard, if he was on this years team??? Point guards in Cal’s system don’t get equal playing time. Whomever the starter is, will be on the floor for the bulk of the minutes.



  39. Shoulder
    7:11 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    Isn’t Michigan the armpit of America?



  40. bigcatstanding
    9:21 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    Al/in/ inly. Thanks / I sometimes don’t have patience for people, so some times I get a little carried away. have a good weekend god bless.



  41. Danceswithwolves
    11:14 pm September 6, 2013 Permalink

    #36-fatcatrunningoffatthemouth. He was talking about Bobby Petrino you dullard. Who the hell is “Patino”. Maybe if you didn’t have the reading comprehension of a third grader, you wouldn’t get so worked up. It’s late, go brush your tooth.



  42. bigcatstanding
    2:04 am September 7, 2013 Permalink

    41. What the hell is your prob no love stories for you to watch tonight Dances with Wolves b****. or is it something much more simple like the fact you know less about basketball than most people that respond on here. People misspell Pitino every which way all the time that’s what I thought happened on that post. So I guess you agree with Larry Bird and Kyle Wiltjer being in the same breath, shouldn’t have asked sure you do num nuts. don’t really know why I would even respond to your trolling little red bird fan / or should I just call you Kevin yeah I know who you are s*** for brains.



  43. msnthrop
    3:18 am September 7, 2013 Permalink

    How many 5’9″ point guards are there in the NBA? I see two, Nate Robinson and Isiah Thomas, that are active and Earl Boykins is still looking for work I think. Nate and Isiah spent three years each at UW with Nate getting drafted in the first round and Isiah in the second…Earl was not drafted. Ullis certainly could make the NBA…it would be unprecedented to do it as a one and done however.



  44. bigcatstanding
    8:00 am September 7, 2013 Permalink

    #43 I don’t think anyone would disagree with your comment, I think the fact that the NBA doesn’t take many players his size is a good thing, because he definitely can ball, and that would be great to keep some one of his caliber running the point for 3 or 4 years.