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BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: What Happens if Mark Stoops Wins……

The radio guys talked a little on yesterday’s show about whether or not Mark Stoops is/will be on the hot seat during this season and what scenarios would lead to his becoming on the heat seat at the school.  But I say go big or go home.  So what would every REGULAR SEASON scenario look like for Mark Stoops this season?  What would happen in each win scenario, 0-12:

0 games:  Well, obviously he would be fired.  It would be the most embarrassing season in UK history.

1 game: Have to think Stoops would probably be fired as this most likely means only beating Murray State.

2 games: Would a 2-10 season lead to a Stoops firing?  Probably depends on how competitive UK is in those 10 losses.  Would probably mean only wins against Murray and Central Michigan and an 0-8 SEC year.  Tend to think this would be a fireable season.

3 games: Probably means 0-8 in SEC and loss to Louisville.  Fanbase would be gone.  Likely too would be Stoops.

4 games: This is the point where Barnhart would have a hard decision.  It depends on what the 4 wins are.  Non-conference and Louisville, maybe that’s enough.  Lose a gimme game and only beat Vanderbilt, maybe not.

5 games: How competitive is UK in all 12 games.  If there are 3-4 blowouts in there, the fanbase is probably checked out and don’t know what happens then.  After back to back bowl games, I would think he would be on hot seat for 2019 but that’s it.

6 games: Does the fanbase stay with the Stoops era with another 6-6 season?  If some of those 6 wins are a mix of Florida, Tennessee, and Louisville, I think so.  But another December bowl game in a less than ideal locale is as boring as possible.

7 wins: Considering the schedule, fans would likely be quite thrilled with 7 wins.  This would also lead to a pretty good bowl as well.  Stoops would be firmly secure in this scenario.

8 wins: This keeps the fanbase energized and on board for all 12 games plus bowl.  This would be a tremendous season.

9 wins: Best season in 30+ years.  Stoops looking at either a nice raise or some other bigger jobs.  Either way, UK is a football school through December.

10 wins: Probably means only losses to Georgia and either Florida or Texas A&M.  Also means they finish 1st or 2nd in SEC East.  Also means Stoops becomes best coach since Claiborne at Kentucky.

11 wins: How quickly can we get up the statue?

12 wins: Pay that man his money.  All the money.  Calipari should give Stoops all of his money too.

Article written by Bryan the Intern

34 Comments for BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: What Happens if Mark Stoops Wins……



  1. secrick
    10:29 am July 24, 2018 Permalink

    6 WINS IS GOOD ENOUGH



  2. CatstopWontstop
    11:00 am July 24, 2018 Permalink

    Unless Kentucky wins a National Championship, there is no scenario in which Stoops should get more money. Kentucky has already paid the man far more than he is worth based on knee-jerk reactions to some wins that turned out to be mediocre at best.

    Stoops really only has two really good games to point to during his time at UK: Beating Louisville in 16-17 and the bowl loss to a good Northwestern team that could have easily been a win.

    I’m hopeful,and I’ll be watching, but cautious optimism is where I stand with the UK/Stoops marriage.



    • drew_123
      11:20 am July 24, 2018 Permalink

      I would throw in the South Carolina game last year as well, but yeah I agree with you on all stances.



  3. KYcats11
    11:21 am July 24, 2018 Permalink

    He is definitely fired with 4 wins or less. Not saying that it’s right, it’s just the truth.



  4. JohnnyCheeseSticks
    11:39 am July 24, 2018 Permalink

    BTI always catches flak, but this is a good post. But like Matt said yesterday on the show, Stoops being lured to another school is just in our minds. If he gets 8 wins, Barnhart wouldn’t want to lose him.



  5. chris43
    11:42 am July 24, 2018 Permalink

    He’s had time to get his players and system in place. Honestly I could care less about another 6-6 season with a crappy bowl game. He’s paid like a top 20 coach yet we aren’t a ranked team. Blew the Florida game last year and almost lost to UT who was HORRIBLE! We have some talent on the roster especially if a QB will step up. Simply put….he needs to win more this year! Why pay a coach that much to be an AVERAGE team. Talent is there…question is can the coaches get it out of them and results on the field?



  6. ukgrad83
    11:51 am July 24, 2018 Permalink

    The sad thing is, the buyout will still be more then $16M after this year. IMO, MB was too quick in trying to lock him in place and he was financially negligent in doing so as well. Not sure he’d be let go this year even if he lost every game.



  7. BBNBRIAN
    12:07 pm July 24, 2018 Permalink

    5 wins MAX… The only saving grace for 6 wins will be another “Lamar fumble to lose the game” scenario. The more likely scenario is that Stoops will poop the bed in 1-2 games that we “should have” won (again) and we finish with 4. Move him along and bring in a coach that has more qualifications than a “last name”.



    • iCalledBank
      12:21 pm July 24, 2018 Permalink

      5 wins gtfoh… central mich, murray st, vandy, middle tn, miss state theres 5 easily… add usc at home, at mizzou, and should beat a bad bad tenn team, granted it is at neyland but theres 8 right there…. i dont know why uk fans hate on the new football program like were still stuck in the joker phillips era.



    • DennyC
      1:11 pm July 24, 2018 Permalink

      Maybe because UK Sucks at Football???? Smh….#BottomFeeder



    • rickwhitetx
      12:57 pm July 24, 2018 Permalink

      I don’t think we’re beating Miss. St. Ole Miss, yes.

      By the way, if Stoops goes 6-6 and some of y’all get your way and he’s fired, who replaces him? Who wants to come to Kentucky?



    • az1006
      12:58 pm July 24, 2018 Permalink

      Mississippi State beat the brakes off us last year, and they’re probably going to be better this year. We won’t be favored in that game by a long shot, and it certainly won’t be “easy” if we do find a way to win.

      I think we find a way to win 6-7 games, but I don’t think Mississippi State will be one of them.



    • maximumscott
      1:49 pm July 24, 2018 Permalink

      They also lost their headcoach. Mullen is a very good coach and it was at Miss St. we werent that far from being in that game. It was a physical beating as it was a mental one. UK gave up in the 3rd and St kept pouring it on. We win this game.



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      1:55 pm July 24, 2018 Permalink

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    • UoKFB PHAN
      1:06 am July 25, 2018 Permalink

      RickW… I hope you don’t mean we will be playing Ole Miss this year. TAMU is the rotating team from the west this year.



  8. Bluebloodtoo
    1:54 pm July 24, 2018 Permalink

    Something tells me that this decision will be based on profitability of the football program as a whole. All the things you quoted are pieces of that, but it really boils down to fan support in terms of dollars, as well as the revenue from a bowl game. But all the factors you are using play into that decision indirectly at differing levels.



  9. iCalledBank
    1:58 pm July 24, 2018 Permalink

    az…..why would miss st be better this year after losing dan mullen & fitzgerald coming off a gruesome ankle dislocation repair…. the games early in the season & at home, two more things not in their favor…



    • UoKFB PHAN
      1:27 am July 25, 2018 Permalink

      I so hope you are right. The Cats have Murray State in the previous game so hopefully the starters can get some rest and the young guys can get some extended playing time. If they do beat the Bulldogs then I think they can win 7 in the regular season.



  10. jaws2
    3:44 pm July 24, 2018 Permalink

    This team has SEC talent; at some positions, but not top tier SEC talent across the board. It’s also not SEC deep. We still have middle of the pack SEC talent overall. This is the SEC MAN! Until this is corrected, if ever, it’s where we’ll stay.
    I expect this team to beat who they should, lose to GA and A&M for certain, and the rest of the games to be toss ups. All in all I think 7 wins would be a good year, 8 would be REEEEAALY good! And no, he doesn’t need a raise. If he wants more, let him leave.



    • UoKFB PHAN
      1:23 am July 25, 2018 Permalink

      I agree with you on both points. Yes, recruiting (and wins) have been on the rise since Stoops arrived but we still don’t have quite the depth that other teams have. This typically shows later in the season or if we get into injuries.



  11. BluKudzu
    4:05 pm July 24, 2018 Permalink

    I am hoping for a breakthrough season for Stoops, but, this will be a very difficult year to do so.
    Bottom line, if the defense can’t stop the other team, then the offense has to score a lot to have a chance. With our QB situation currently, I am not sure that will be the case.
    I will say this, our line played much better once we changed out the Center, about midway through last year’s season. If they can give the QB some protection, we could be very lethal offensively.
    We just can’t afford the “non cover two” any more. Defense will make or break the season. This is why Stoops was hired.



  12. ScoggDog
    12:17 am July 25, 2018 Permalink

    Nothing happens in a vacuum.

    BTI is trying to lower expectations.

    Hmmm.



    • Luether
      12:24 am July 25, 2018 Permalink

      Until we win consistently on the field, expectations rightly should be managed…



  13. Brad
    12:30 am July 25, 2018 Permalink

    From 2 win seasons to bowl games and yall never satisfied… smh



  14. blueballs80
    1:30 am July 25, 2018 Permalink

    If Stoops has 8 regular season wins and then wins a bowl game, he could be on the market for other power five programs. Off course that is a big IF. Getting to 7 will be challenging given how our defense has played.



  15. DelrayCat
    1:34 am July 25, 2018 Permalink

    The buy-out is worth 2-3 losses. He stays unless they are just absolutely putrid.
    Their talent is better overall, and such futility seems unlikely unless the QB position is a total disaster.



  16. Wade
    8:54 am July 25, 2018 Permalink

    6-6 win as much as we lose I can take it but I’d rather get 7 every yr. I think our ceiling is 8 wins but we are not yet a well oiled machine. We have recruited well and have an eye for talent just need better organization that’s the frustration and I think we’re developing well. Qb will decide most of our success this yr.



  17. bradinmississippi
    10:40 am July 25, 2018 Permalink

    I keep hearing how our talent is better, I just don’t see it, here are the recruiting rankings in the SEC while Stoops has been coach
    2019 11 with 1 Four Star
    2018 11 with 3 Four Stars
    2017 10 with 4 Four Stars
    2016 10 with 1 Five Star 4 Four Stars
    2015 13 with 2 Four Stars
    2014 9 with 10 Four Stars
    2013 13 with 3 Four Stars
    How can we compete with recruiting like this? Stoops best year was 2014. He has only recruited 1 Five Star player and minimal 4 Stars. We keep hearing about all of these great classes but when you actually look at them they are below average in the SEC.



    • BluKudzu
      11:44 am July 25, 2018 Permalink

      UK football. We still have a very long way to go. True this will be a difficult season, but, it will show us what to expect as we go forward.
      I do not care about stars, I do care about wins.
      Will this be the year?



    • My Dixie Wrecked
      12:08 pm July 25, 2018 Permalink

      The only people that say they don’t care about Stars are fans of teams that don’t have much talent. The truth is that stars matter. All the NCAA statistics show it. ESPN has done several articles on it. If you’re not at the top of the recruiting rankings, you’re not playing for championships.



  18. Rabbi Li
    2:58 pm July 25, 2018 Permalink

    BTI said, “9 wins – Stoops looking at either a nice raise or some other bigger jobs.”

    This is the typical hyperbole… but is to be expected from the BTI amateur hour.

    If he wins 9 games then it means he finally was better than 4-4 in the SEC (and would likely be just 5-3).

    The UK Schedule is so padded with creampuff that 9 wins means Stoops finally doing the job he’s paid to do:

    1. Have a winning program – regular season (qualify for bowls).
    2. Have a winning program – SEC.
    3. Put fans in the stands to pay for it.

    Prediction: 7-5 (3-5)
    W – vs Cent Michigan
    L – @ Florida
    W – vs Murray State
    L – vs Miss St (Pre-season rank 24)
    L – vs South Carolina (Pre-season rank 23)
    L – @ Texas A&M
    W – vs Vanderbilt
    W – @ Missouri
    L – vs Georgia (Pre-season rank 3)
    W – @ Tennessee
    W – vs Mid Tennessee
    W – @ Louisville



  19. Rabbi Li
    3:13 pm July 25, 2018 Permalink

    Which SEC games can UK flip?

    Wins:
    • Vandy
    • Missouri
    • The impossible win in Knoxville (Tennessee). New coach & an environment of chaos.

    Losses:
    • Not beating JoJa.
    • Beating Texas A&M with the 12th man in College Station, Texas? Let’s be real. Maybe if our players stopped partying and became men could they keep that game close. But even if they did that, they’d still have to have some lucky ball bounces.

    Flippable?
    • Miss St – New coach taking over Dan Mullens great recruiting. So often a possible win before Mullen arrived and they are in Lexington. Definitely flippable.
    • South Carolina has lost 4 in a row to UK. Game in Lexington. A real question mark.
    • Florida? Can you ever consider this game anything but a reason to prefer basketball?



    • dismore
      3:25 pm July 25, 2018 Permalink

      MO is no guaranteed win. Their high flying offense will roll up points on our secondary which is always weak. I think MO beats us by 21.