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BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: Want a Funny Stat for a Friday

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Remember yesterday when I listed all of the career earnings of UK draft picks under John Calipari, which came out to nearly $200 million dollars of earnings with another $251 million in earnings already under contract for future seasons.  And that doesn’t include any of the money that the 7 guys headed to the NBA this season will earn.  I argued John Calipari could have ONE BILLION dollars in player earnings if he stays at Kentucky for 10 years.

A commenter made a good point.  What about Louisville?  Well, that list is much easier to calculate.  Despite being the coach at Louisville for 14 seasons now, Rick Pitino has only put 8 players into the NBA (10 after Rozier and Harrell are drafted this year).  Combined earnings of those guys:

Francisco Garcia (2005): 10 seasons, $31.04 million
Earl Clark (2009) 6 seasons, $10.38 million
Terrence Williams (2009): 4 seasons, $6.94 million
Reece Gaines (2002): 3 seasons, $4.36 million
Gorgui Dieng (2013): 2 seasons, $2.76 million
Samardo Samuels (2010): 3 seasons, $1.60 million
Russ Smith (2014): 1 season, $0.82 million
Peyton Siva (2013): 1 season, $0.10 million
TOTAL: 30 seasons, $58.00 million

14 years at UL, 58 million NBA dollars for Pitino.  6 years at UK, 200 million NBA dollars for Calipari.

Article written by Bryan the Intern

29 Comments for BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: Want a Funny Stat for a Friday



  1. rdhack
    9:18 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

    UHHHHHHHHHHHH Wow.



  2. theWilkman
    9:51 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

    UofL fans love to say Rick develops his players. Here is plain proof that he does not. Tell me why a top recruit would go there?

    BTI, if you want to continue the trend, it would be interesting to see what Bill Self, Coach K, and Roy Williams have done as well.



    • rdhack
      9:52 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

      Shoot, Just do the TOP 10 rankings and post for the whole world to see!



  3. cbeard7
    9:55 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

    I’m a Kentucky fan but that only makes the argument that Pitino has been just as successful with less talent. One Championship for each in the last 6 years and Pitino never got his ass handed to him in the NIT during that stretch.



    • theWilkman
      10:04 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

      Rick can coach kids to play his ugly style of basketball, that’s no doubt. And sometimes it is successful. His last 6 years have been great by all measurements but ours. Take a look:

      2010 – lost 1st round
      2011 – lost 2nd round
      2012 – Final Four, lost to UK
      2013 – Championship
      2014 – Sweet Sixteen, lost to UK
      2015 – Elite 8

      We had an NIT year in our run, sure, but we also went to the Final Four or better 4 times, Elite 8 5/6. And we only lost to Louisville once.



    • Mc12
      10:04 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

      What about his first 6 years at Louisville?



    • cbeard7
      10:19 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

      That’s the point isn’t it? With players that are making $150 million more than Louisville players UK has won the same amount of championships. Pitino has a championship, a final four, elite 8, and 16. I’d say he’s maximizing the talent he has for sure. If the talent gap is that great then you have to a least consider that Calipari is under performing.



    • theWilkman
      10:24 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

      Rick Pitino win % at Louisville – 74.5
      John Calipari win % at Kentucky – 83.3%

      Like I said, Rick has done well, no doubt, just not as well as Cal.



    • Catsby80
      10:27 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

      i get what you’re saying cbeard7… if we weigh performance by championships alone, then the last 6 years by that standard are equal between uk & uofl… but the intent of this post by BTI isn’t to discuss who the greater program has been… it is simply to discuss the players that have come thru the 2 schools and their combined earnings. plain and simple.



    • theWilkman
      10:39 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

      One more thing…

      Cal’s stats are just his 6 years at UK. Rick’s are his 14 at UofL. Still one championship each, and a lot more money earned by Cal’s players at UK. 8 more years at UK and I’d be willing to wager Cal will get at least one more ring.



    • cbeard7
      11:11 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

      I’m so excited that our players make more money in the NBA than Louisville players! We’re so awesome!!!



    • theWilkman
      11:19 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

      If you can’t see how having more high profile Cats in the NBA helps the program, I can’t help you.



    • Mc12
      11:30 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

      My point is you make an NIT reference when Pitino’s first 6 years at UL he went to 2 NIT’s, 1 first round exit, 2 second round exits, and 1 final 4.

      Cal in his 6 years: 1 NIT, 1 Elite 8, 2 Final 4s, 1 runner-up, 1 championship.

      If Cal had 14 years under his belt at UK you’d have somewhat of a point. Also Cal is 7-1 Vs Louisville while at UK. His one loss was by 3 on the road with his NIT squad losing to Pitino’s championship team.

      He has bounced UL from the tournament twice.



    • cbeard7
      11:52 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

      First six years at Louisville pulling it out of irrelevance isn’t the same as taking over the job at UK. Again Cal is awesome, recruiting is awesome, & It’s a great run that wont last forever. Comparing NBA dollars, which is grossly in favor of UK, has only equated to moderately more success. Next year will probably be a different story for Louisville however 🙂



    • chief_cat
      12:00 pm April 10, 2015 Permalink

      Look if we are going to say success is only measured by NCAA championships then we have to say Kevin Ollie = Cal = Pitino and then you would have to argue that Tubby was every bit as successful during his tenure at UK as Cal at UK or Pitino at Louisville. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t feel the season is a total success unless we can hang a championship banner at the end of each year. But frankly when you count on a one loss/out tournament as the method of crowning a champion you are dealing with a pretty fickle method. (I find it ironic that if you went back through the archives of comments near the end of Tubby’s tenure and throughout Billy G’s, you would find that a majority of fans stated that they demanded to make it to the Final Four as the ultimate mark of a successful team. Now that we are getting there on a consistent basis, we have raised the bar and say that we demand a championship annually or we are not successful. What’s next?)

      There’s no way that Kevin Ollie has been as successful as Cal or Pitino. We can’t get caught up in measuring success as ONLY championships. We have to look at total wins, Final Four runs, SEC championships, wins over major rivals and other things as well. Let’s not forget too that getting players to the professional level is a key indicator of how well the program is performing. With all of that taken into account, no one does it better than Kentucky.



    • cbeard7
      12:42 pm April 10, 2015 Permalink

      Your’re right let’s compare the body of work…

      Kevin Ollie – Coaching for three years, no comparison
      SEC\ACC – ACC, no comparison
      Future NBA players – UK, no comparison, because Pitino also recruited Antoine, Mashburn, Mercer, Anderson, Nazr, Delk, McCarthy, Magloire, etc…
      Final 4’s – Pitino 7, Cal 6
      Champs – Pitino 2, Cal 1
      Win % – Pitino .740, Cal .773

      I’d say if anything Cal is only moderately more successful at this point.



    • theWilkman
      12:57 pm April 10, 2015 Permalink

      We were just about as irrelevant during Billy G’s years as Louisville before Pitino. Now you’re going and pulling up career records, when the original argument was Pitino at Louisville vs Cal at UK. I guess switching it up helps your case, but the bottom line is, when comparing Pitino at UofL and Cal at UK, whether you judge their entire tenures there or just the last 6 years, Cal and UK win. Maybe not by a ton, but we win. And we have a 7-1 record against them, 2 of those wins coming in the tournament.

      And our players go on to have fruitful NBA careers. Icing on the cake.



    • cbeard7
      1:10 pm April 10, 2015 Permalink

      I was responding to chief_cat’s argument that it’s about more than Championships. Cal is having an amazing run at UK and so did Pitino. I’m enjoying it personally. Again, I’m so excited that our players make more money in the NBA than Louisville players!! Roy Williams had a similar run from 05 – 09, it doesn’t last forever.



    • UK Big Board Update
      2:05 pm April 10, 2015 Permalink

      Let’s not forget it took Pitino 7-8 years to get his first title at UK. I remember the joke about the Pope and his ring….



    • Leuther
      2:05 pm April 10, 2015 Permalink

      Right! The most meaningful stat is championships – one each!



    • Al B. Frank
      3:19 pm April 10, 2015 Permalink

      cbeard7, people often make this argument about how we are supposed to somehow be in awe of coaches that “do more with less talent.” Even if they don’t go as far as we did… hey, they didn’t have the talent we did, so they did more with less. Eh, the last time I checked, one of the jobs of the head coach and/or coaching staff was to recruit talent. Seems to me that Pitino has done LESS with the talent that HE RECRUITED than Cal has done with the TALENT that he recruited.



    • cbeard7
      3:41 pm April 10, 2015 Permalink

      He’s a great recruiter, no doubt. Robert Morris, UConn, & West Virginia all proved that it’s about more than talent.



    • UK Big Board Update
      7:28 pm April 10, 2015 Permalink

      The same can be said for Morehead State, California, Texas A&M….. right?



  4. 4mrcatathlete
    9:56 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

    long time fan here, loved the run they made this year, I don’t begrudge the kids, but Pitino and Cal have the same number of titles at their respective schools, hope Cal can figure out how to add a couple more, we all want him to separate from Joe B, Ricky, and Tubby in the natty title department, he deserves it



  5. CPACAT
    11:11 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

    I would think the average UK fan is considerably more enamored by the number of titles we win than the amount of money the kids are making in the NBA. We get to claim the titles forever, we get NONE of the cash. The titles are more important to us when strictly comparing the two.

    However, we do like the improved winning percentage, and no one should argue that we are at least in the conversation every year.



    • cbeard7
      11:19 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

      Amen brother, I get that Calipari is helping these kids and it’s awesome but to compare that to another school and feel smug about it is silly.



    • theWilkman
      11:21 am April 10, 2015 Permalink

      We like to be better than Louisville in all things basketball. Titles, win %, money in the NBA… if it’s a measurable stat, we want to win it!

      Of course NBA earnings aren’t as important as wins and titles. But one more thing we beat Louisville is one more thing we beat Louisville in.



    • Al B. Frank
      3:22 pm April 10, 2015 Permalink

      CPACAT, I believe the whole post was written in response to a question that was asked in the comments section about UofL’s former players after the former Cats in the NBA salaries were posted.



  6. BluKudzu
    2:09 pm April 10, 2015 Permalink

    Banners, Wins. Truly hope the players do well at the next level.
    That is all.