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BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: UK Pathetic at Defending Commonwealth in SEC


Despite having very few highlights this season, I think we can still point at the win at South Carolina as a big moment in the Mark Stoops era.  Yes, South Carolina turned out to be pretty bad.  But UK winning a road SEC game for the first time in 5 years marked an improvement in a tenure that hasn’t seen many on the field improvements.  Not trying to diminish that accomplish, but for me, winning SEC road games in nice but not necessary.  Instead, defending your home turf IS A MUST.

Mark Stoops is just 3-9 in his 3 years at Commonwealth Stadium against SEC teams.  Those 3 wins are over Vanderbilt, South Carolina, and Missouri, none of which finished with a winning record that year.  If Mark Stoops want to find immediate improvement next year, how about shooting for 3 out of 4 wins in SEC home games?  Next year, UK has Georgia, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, and South Carolina at home.  Totally doable.

This post is not meant to be a criticism of Mark Stoops.  UK’s home performance, both in and out of conference, has been steddily declining since the stadium opened in 1973.  The 1970’s and 1980’s saw pretty decent success.  In fact, UK had winning home records in each season from 1983-1990.  But as the SEC built itself up as the best conference in the country, UK did not follow suit.  And the records have shown.  A little breakdown of total home record and against particular opponents since 1973 at Commonwealth:

1970’s: 24-15-1 (winning seasons: 1974, 1976, 1977, 1979)
1980’s: 36-27-3 (winning seasons: 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989)
1990’s: 32-29 (winning seasons: 1990, 1993, 1996, 1998)
2000’s: 32-35 (winning seasons: 2002, 2006, 2007, 2008)
2010’s: 22-21 (winning seasons: 2010, 2011, 2014)

Vanderbilt: 15-6 (’74, ’76, ’78, ’80, ’84, ’86, ’88, ’90, ’96, ’98, ’02, ’04, ’06, ’10, 14)
Mississippi State: 7-8 (’77, ’85, ’90, ’96, ’98, ’03, ’05)
LSU: 7-10 (’74, ’76, ’89, ’93, ’95, ’99, ’07)
Ole Miss: 5-2 (’79, ’87, ’93, ’06, ’11)
South Carolina: 4-9 (’92, ’98, ’10, ’14)
Georgia: 4-16 (’88, ’90, ’96, ’06)
Florida: 3-18 (’74, ’76, ’86)
Tennessee: 3-19 (’77, ’81, ’11)
Arkansas: 2-1 (’99, ’08)
Missouri: 1-1 (’15)
Alabama: 1-6 (’97)
Auburn: 0-7

Indiana: 10-2 (’74, ’83, ’87, ’89, ’92, ’96, ’98, ’00, ’02, ’04)
Louisville: 4-9 (’94, ’97, ’07, ’09)

COMBINED RECORD: 146-127-4 (Win Pct: 52.7%)
COMBINED SEC RECORD: 52-103 (Win Pct: 33.5%)

Article written by Bryan the Intern

15 Comments for BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: UK Pathetic at Defending Commonwealth in SEC

  1. Megan
    8:27 am December 2, 2015 Permalink

    Why are we still wallowing in this misery?

  2. The_Doctor
    8:28 am December 2, 2015 Permalink

    Yes. We realize UK football is consistently terrible. Let it go. Its basketball season. No need to further analyze how terrible football is.

    • FunkyMonkey
      8:56 am December 2, 2015 Permalink

      but concede we need to fix it,… it the revenue driver of UK athletics, even more than basketball. If you want any UK athletic team to be successful, including the ladies teams, you better pray the men’s football team brings in the $ (and actually UK athletics is one of the few colleges that donates to the General Fund,… but that another story).

    • cats paw
      9:27 am December 2, 2015 Permalink

      But the vast majority of revenue comes from simply being in the SEC, not from our ticket sales. Thus no real desperation to change it.

  3. FunkyMonkey
    8:45 am December 2, 2015 Permalink

    What I keep thinking about is when Matt Jones asked about obvious disorganization he bristled, took exception and went so far as to say they something like good luck finding somebody else to do the job. This from somebody who is guaranteed over $20 million in lifetime security for his family. I don’t know if that arrogance or exactly what, but frankly since Matt asked that question things didn’t get better, but actually worse. Frankly, if he goes on KSR again, an apology wouldn’t be out of line. If Barnhart had kept it real, he would have said how but for a few plays we weren’t 2-10,…. by only a miracle did we beat EKU and how with every week that went by we got worse and regressed in mostly all facets of the game. That’s what troubles fans the most, not the record, but the trend.

    • CATandMONKEY
      8:57 am December 2, 2015 Permalink

      Not that Stoops would care but he lost a lot of my former respect with that response. It was a legitimate question and as noted above those concerns voiced by Matt have actually come to be even a larger concern.

  4. keiths
    8:55 am December 2, 2015 Permalink

    Just stop already BTI. No need to rehash this whole sh^t sandw*ch. the guy is in over his head and everyone (including him) knows it. And thanks to our astutue A.D. he is going to make 20 million dollars for being BAD at his job. ONLY IN AMERICA….

  5. Mathlete
    8:55 am December 2, 2015 Permalink

    I can accept going 5-7, I can accept losing games and recruits to good teams, I can accept that we aren’t where we want to be yet and (assuming we’re on the right path) it will take 2-3 more years to get there at a minimum. I can even (barely) stomach losing to Louisville because, giving the devil his due, Petrino is a very good football coach.

    I absolutely can’t abide the total lack of effort, preparation, or mental toughness displayed in the back half of the season. We’re a young team, fine, it’s understandable that some of the players couldn’t adjust well on the fly. But they weren’t adjusting at all. We played something like half our schedule against read option offenses, but even in the last game of the season they looked like they had never seen this concept before.

  6. BigBlue2U
    8:56 am December 2, 2015 Permalink

    “Steddilly”??? Holy spell check, Batman…

  7. Hermes
    9:28 am December 2, 2015 Permalink

    I totally bought in to the Stoops hire and until the second half of this season, I was convinced he and his staff were going to get it done. Maybe (I hope) they will but I have to say it is disturbing that my projection of Year 4 for the program is a 3 win season. In other words, notwithstanding the investment of millions in CWS and new facilities and all the hype around the improved recruiting, the fact is UK very likely will not have as good a team as in Years 2 and 3. We will have a young, inexperienced, and immature QB, inconsistent receivers, a young and inexperienced offensive line, very little returning for the defensive line, and transfers filling the gap (we hope) at LB. Only the secondary and the backfield show promise of rising to SEC quality. We are not seeing good player development, good game coaching (failure to manage the clock, failure to have proper personnel on the field, questionable play calling), and, most of all good organization and management from top to bottom…what Urban Meyer would call “Unit Integrity.” Where are the leaders? I hope I am wrong but it really looks like this train is not heading in the right direction. I have little hope for next year.

    • dean winchester
      10:11 am December 2, 2015 Permalink

      Time may prove me wrong, but I think there are two onfield leaders on the way in KDaniel and DJackson. Both are not even freshmen yet, but both have prided themselves on helping recruit, and both kids speak their minds. Leaders have to earn respect with their play and work ethic, so they will have to earn their teammates respect, but leadership should get better once those two get fully engrained into the program. Daniels pre-game speech comes to mind when i think of the type of leadership needed on the field for us. One would hope someone else steps up this coming year from our seniors, but leaders are coming.

  8. KTower
    10:05 am December 2, 2015 Permalink

    The numbers do not lie. Kentucky has struggled for years and years in football. The program needs major surgery not a band-aid. Stoops is doing all the right things by recruiting better, red shirting players, going into the JUCO ranks and playing young players very early (before they are ready). Due to the complete mismanagement by the University of the Football Program it may take 5-10 years of solid recruiting for the corner to turn.

    The internet tough guys on these boards live who are calling for Stoops head live in a instant gratification microwave society. Patience…

    • The Rest of the story
      10:17 am December 2, 2015 Permalink

      You my friend are unreal. You are saying give Stoops 10yrs to succeed. That may be the most moronic thing I ever heard. Keep giving him raises and let him fail for his whole career just because you THINK he is doing it right. I have never seen a team get so bad from game one to game 12 and you are ok with that? Just go away idiot and I do not say that lightly.

  9. BluKudzu
    11:05 am December 2, 2015 Permalink

    Tap the breaks. Time to roll back on the hype machine folks. To think that UK will win 3 of 4 home SEC games is doable is exactly the type of raised expectations that has lead to the frustration shared by UK football fans. Just put some thought into what you post.
    First it was Stoops telling the fans the 2015 team was much better than the previous years team, then the OC telling us he never had so much talent to work with, then Mitch tells us everything is going well and he likes the direction we are going, and then marketing hype force fed to us with a firehose to sell tickets. We believed, we bought in, and finally we get a coach calling in his own radio show pumping the excitement, only to be followed by Mitch finally talking both frustration and disappointment.
    I, too, can rationalize the frustration people feel.
    Face it, by the time we face New Mexico State, in 2016, UK may have lost 8 of its last 9 games.
    I think winning 3 games at home, or on the road, in the SEC, would be a major step forward. I think winning 3 or 4 games all season will be a huge task for this coach, his staff, and this team.
    Coaches in this league are being fired for losing as many as we have won. Those programs are the microwaves.
    Having a losing season for the last 6 years, and being told it will take another 2-7 years is ridiculous. Going forward with the same program and expecting different is crazy.
    Tap the breaks folks. It is what it is. We are not a very good football team. We are in the bottom third of the SEC, and just one miracle play from being the fourth best college team in the Commonwealth.
    That is how far we progressed.

    • Jaxson
      11:12 am December 2, 2015 Permalink

      I’m becoming concerned that Stoops thinks he’s still playing with house money. To go out on the recruiting visits with both Dawson AND Eliot makes me think he’s unwilling to change.