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BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: “Turning the Corner” has led to Backslide too Often


When you are a fan of a football program like Kentucky, you hear the phrase “turning the corner” all too often.  Every time a new coach comes in, he is looking to turn the corner into a consistently successful program.  This has been a consistent theme over the last 25 years for Cats fans.  And frankly, I don’t blame anybody for losing patience with that kind of rhetoric.  Because Kentucky has had plenty of opportunities over that last 25 years to officially turn the corner and stay there.  For instance:

-Cats win their first bowl game since 1984 the year before
-UK beats #9 Louisville and #1 LSU on it’s way to 5-1 start
-Win over LSU vaults UK into BCS Bowl contention

-Cats finish season 1-4, including close losses to Florida and Tennessee
-UK hasn’t won 8 games since

-Cats coming off New Year’s Day Bowl
-UK beats Louisville by 34 and LSU on the road in ’98
-Tim Couch gives UK national publicity

-Cats are trounced AT HOME by Louisville in opener by 28
-Cats have medicore 6-6 season, losing bowl game to Syracuse
-Cats go 2-9 in 2000 and program is back in the dumps

-Cats go to first bowl game in 10 years in 1993
-Cats open ’94 season beating UL in renewal of rivalry

-UK loses final 10 games of season
-Lost to Florida by 66, Indiana by 30, Miss State by 40, and Tennessee by 52
-UK also loses to NE Louisiana at the end of season
-Cats go 4-7 in ’95 and ’96, Bill Curry fired

There are 3 times in my lifetime that Kentucky was on the verge of becoming a consistently good program and we were told that UK had “turned the corner”.  And each time, UK under-performed when they needed to the most and the program slid back into medicority.

Which brings us to this week.  UK did some good things last season, beating South Carolina and nearly beating Louisville and Florida.  Finishing 5-7 was considered by most to be a step up.  They UK starts off this year 2-0, including a highly entertaining upset of South Carolina on the road.  UK gets the worst Florida team in 20 years on it’s home field and what happens?  A poor performance and a disappointing loss.  Now they get a ranked team, again at home, and are favored by the odds-makers.  It is a game that historically UK has lost.

I understand that beating Missouri will not set the world on fire on a national scale.  But for the importance of this program I think it is a HUGE game.  The most important of Mark Stoops tenure.  And yes, more important than last week’s game.  Because if they lose that game, they then hit the real difficult part of the schedule (Auburn, at Miss State, at Georgia, Tennessee).  If you go into that slate 2-2, then all of the sudden another 6-6 or 5-7 season is very much a possibility.  And once again a chance to “turn the corner” as a program has gone by the wayside.

But, if you beat a ranked Missouri squad, the 2-time winner’s of your division, suddenly you sit at 2-1 in the conference.  You suddenly have shown the ability to shake off a tough loss and get a tough win right after.  Something UK teams of the past have been totally incapable of doing.  This game will be the ultimate test of if this program under Mark Stoops is genuinely a different kind of program with different kinds of players or will it be just more of the same.  I think UK fans have been more than patient enough with this program, under many different head coaches, and the teasing we’ve had to endure knowing that our team is often better than is shown on the field.

Has this team and program truly “turned a corner”?  Saturday will let us know.

Article written by Bryan the Intern

37 Comments for BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: “Turning the Corner” has led to Backslide too Often

  1. Mathlete
    8:11 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

    BTI – the voice of the negative, downtrodden, never really happy section of the BBN.

    • Bryan the Intern
      8:49 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

      That loss on Saturday sure was fun. Losing for 25 years sure has been fun! Happy?

    • ClutchCargo
      9:01 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

      It may seem harsh, but it’s spot on. Fans who have spent their time and money to support this program and really buy into the hype of building a top notch football program have earned the right to have high expectations. And Stoops didn’t take this job just to go to a place where the fans are content with mediocrity. We wouldn’t like having a basketball team that wins less than half of its games, so we should have that same attitude toward football, while understanding that it is a work in progress. Having said that, it is clear that someone has hacked BTI’s account. The real BTI sucks and would never have such a solid take.

    • Mathlete
      9:27 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

      It’s frustrating to lose to Florida again, but this whole post acts like past results indicate future performance and that’s just not the case. If they did, we wouldn’t have nearly the same team we have now because past recruiting results puts almost all of them in another jersey, usually one on our schedule. Basketball can turn around on a dime, football is a much bigger boat and takes a little while to come about (and bail out all of the water from the nearly sunken era with Joker at the helm).

      Yes, it’s important to win this week. It’s important to win *every* week. But let’s not pretend the sky is falling because we lost to a close game to a team that still has a lot of elite talent and an experienced head coach who is used to succeeding with a lot less to work with.

    • ClutchCargo
      10:36 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

      Mathlete – I didn’t see anything in the post that said the sky is falling. More like, let’s not get too excited about having turned the corner when there is still a solid team to beat this Saturday before we can even start thinking that way.

    • Mathlete
      10:59 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

      The original post reads a lot more like “yeah, we seem to have a pretty good team. But why bother since we’re going to end up right back where we were?” The vocally negative part of the fanbase is acting like the rest of the season is a waste of time at this point because we lost a game. All of the above need to chill out and be patient.

      There are great times in the near future if we just keep supporting the team we have, because the recruits of the future will pick up on how BBN will support the athletes in more than just basketball and it makes it all the more appealing to join in.

  2. Poppschmidty
    8:33 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

    Well, that’s a depressing way to start a Thursday.

    8:36 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

    Depressing but factual.
    If we win Saturday it really could be turning the corner for both the team and the fanbase.
    BTI still sucks.

  4. The Rest of the story
    8:38 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

    Trying hard here to be positive. The Cats truly need a win Saturday, and Towles has got to be an SEC quarterback and not an OVC one. Dawson has got to make better decisions and more imaginative play calls instead of runs up the middle for little or no gain. Defense has been doing well but we all know that improvement there insures better results. Finally Stoops needs to truly inspire this team before taking the field not just Saturday but the rest of the year. Doing all this will not guarantee wins but will certainly give this team a much better chance. GO BIG BLUE!

  5. Ray
    8:57 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

    It seems like every next game is the turning point for the program. If that’s really the case, then maybe UK should get rid of football if we lose

  6. cat scat
    8:59 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

    With sunshine Towles at the helm, UK is at a very best 6-6 team, probably be more like 5-7. He’s just not an sec or maybe even a D-1 QB.

    • Hey
      10:43 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

      Do you mind if I call you Cat Shit?

    • ClutchCargo
      11:30 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

      I think Bird Shit might be more appropriate…

    • Petrino is here
      12:26 pm September 24, 2015 Permalink

      Don’t worry cat scat, they can’t handle hearing the truth. Look at Towles meltdowns over the last 7 games. BBN loves being mediocre, so it’s fitting they love their long hair not even average QB.

    • Smells Like Bird Shit
      12:46 pm September 24, 2015 Permalink

      Hey Petrino (cats paw/cat scat) its better than being 0-3, and on a 4 game losing streak (two of which were SEC teams).

  7. RICK
    9:37 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

    6 and 6 sounds good to me.

  8. Megan
    9:50 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

    So BTI’s ready to give up on our team and Coach Stoops if we lose this weekend. Nice.

    • Mathlete
      10:07 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

      Someone has to speak up for the quitters!

  9. ManO'war
    10:07 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

    Dawson may get irritated at us fans, but come on dude, your play calling was unimaginative at best against Florida. You call that an air raid? Punching it up the middle and throwing to the corners does not exactly constitute an air raid. Come on man, open up the play book a little bit. Yes, plenty of mistakes were made by players too, but the coaches are the one with the burden of putting players in a position to win. Running up the middle for little to no gain repeatedly is NOT gonna get it done in the SEC. We’ve been down that road too many times.

    • Mathlete
      10:10 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

      If you get the chance to re-watch the game, see how much time Towles gets before at least one Florida player is in his face on passing plays. You can’t take a shot down field in under 2 seconds without expecting to give up a pick.

      Dawson was trying to establish the run game and make Florida defend it so it would relieve some pressure on the passing game, Florida was content to let the running game get into the secondary and make tackles there in order to keep the passing game out of sync.

    • Hey
      10:45 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

      Exactly. Just throw deep bombs every time downfield. Them defenses won’t know what to do. AIR RAID!!!

  10. ManO'war
    10:23 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

    I do see your point about trying to relieve pressure on the pass game. As far as the passing game goes, why not run a few more slants, and dare I say…Bubble Screens… ya know, some short passes on 1st down that might get you only 5- 6 yrds, but then you are looking at a manageable 2nd-and-4, instead of second and long. Hey I am no expert, and I certainly don’t get payed the big bucks to make those calls. That much I will concede.

  11. Are You Floreal?
    11:54 am September 24, 2015 Permalink

    I don’t understand why people are saying that 7-5 or 6-6 would be bad, it would be a step forward. A bowl game (even if it’s the Toilet Bowl) is still better than no bowl and both of those records are better than the past 4 years.

  12. Are You Floreal?
    11:57 am September 24, 2015 Permalink


  13. Detours
    1:04 pm September 24, 2015 Permalink

    Every time I see a photo of Stoops, he seems to have a look of puzzlement, bewilderment, or whatever you wish to call it on his face. This photo is just another example. You people seriously have confidence in this coach?

    • Smells Like Bird Shit
      1:13 pm September 24, 2015 Permalink

      0-3 fucc boi.

    • Ha!
      1:22 pm September 24, 2015 Permalink

      Louisville’s last four games: L, L, L, L…………. ๐Ÿ˜€

    • Mathlete
      3:03 pm September 24, 2015 Permalink

      You can’t spell Louisville without 3 L’s!

  14. Detours
    1:48 pm September 24, 2015 Permalink

    I find it ironic that UK fans are so happy about UL’s record. You may not have much to laugh about when it’s all over and just a reminder….when was the last time Kentucky was in a bowl game? I believe Kentucky is standing at 0-4 (since 2010) losing the last two bowl games prior to that. So UK is just hoping they can get to some obscure bowl game on a wish and a prayer this year, just to embarrass themselves again (this being your goal?). Don’t be giving the other teams or fans too much grief….you have nothing to gloat about.

    • Adorable
      2:08 pm September 24, 2015 Permalink

      We all can’t play in the AAC, bro.

      FYI, UK has been to more bowls – and has a better record in those bowls – than Louisville.

      You are no powerhouse – sorry to break it to ya. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • Detours
      2:37 pm September 24, 2015 Permalink

      I take it you missed the real message in my post, bro. That’s ok though… just keep dwelling on the past and placing emphasis on UL’s standings and see where that gets you. Good luck with that, bro. Those who laugh first will most often end up having nothing to smile about in the end.

    • Adorable
      2:44 pm September 24, 2015 Permalink

      Kind of like Louisville fans talking shit all year leading up to football? How’s that worked out for you so far, bro? Karma’s a bitch, ain’t it?

      And losing by 34 to Georgia is embarrassing. Lmao….

      When is the ACC Takeover we heard so much about set to begin? Bro.

    • Adorable
      2:46 pm September 24, 2015 Permalink

      And we are hoping to get to a bowl so we can keep our top 20 recruiting class together. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      We lost by 4 at the Pizza Palace with mostly Joker’s players.

    • Detours
      3:10 pm September 24, 2015 Permalink

      You are truly a dumbass and just to make it clear to your dense brain….I am not a UL fan and definitely not a UK fan. Insofar as Joker goes….you will blaming the same shit on Coach Stoopid by this time next year. BTW…. your top 10 recruiting class is nothing short of rejects from teams that really know how to win….not a wannabe like UK. Adios dumbass…I’m out.

    • Adorable
      3:17 pm September 24, 2015 Permalink

      I don’t blame you for leaving, UofL troll. You got owned.

      “Not a UofL fan”, yet brought up and defended Louisville in every post you made, and never claimed who you are supposedly a fan of. Of course, if my team were winless, I’d probably be ashamed to claim them, too. Lol have a nice day, fucc boi!! ๐Ÿ˜‰

  15. Detours
    3:31 pm September 24, 2015 Permalink

    I will be laughing my ass off when Mizzou beats your asses on Saturday….then you will be owned…..again! And I will celebrate when your Coach Stoopid and you are sitting all lonesome and blue when the bowl games begin. GO TIGERS!!!!!!

    • Adorable
      3:41 pm September 24, 2015 Permalink

      Noted…. Good luck against Samford. ๐Ÿ˜‰