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BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: If Towles Keeps Job This Year, Barker’s Future Uncertain…..

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With yesterday’s announcement of Patrick Towles as starting QB to start the season, my mind immediately turned the most hyped recruit in the Mark Stoops era, Drew Barker.  He has now been beat out for the job by Towles for 2 seasons, plus lost some faith of the fanbase with some off the field issues over the last year.  Now, to be fair, most highly rated QB’s have similar stories, at least on the field.  Just because they are a 4 or 5 star recruit doesn’t mean they can just step on the field right away.

But what concerns me is the fact that Patrick Towles is just a junior and is very unlikely to leave for the NFL after this season.  Towles already has a somewhat successful season under his belt, appears to be more confident this year with more weapons around him.  I would say it is very likely Towles is able to keep the job for the entire year, barring injury.  I just don’t imagine he will be poor enough on the field to be permanently pulled on the depth chart.  Let’s say that happens and Towles is the starter all year.  It likely means he is the starter next year.  Which for Drew Barker means another year as the #2 guy.

And that means Barker could potentially not see the field on a regular basis until his 4th year on the team (with a redshirt).  Is there any precedent for another 4 or 5 star SEC QB to have to wait that long to take the starting job for his team.  I went back and look at all recruits that fell under that category from 2010 through 2013 (so that the player had at least 3 years on campus).  Below are the results:

2013: Cooper Bateman- redshirt in 2013, did not play in 2014, moved to WR this year
2010: Philip Sims- transferred after 2 seasons, never started

2011: Brandon Allen- became starter in 3rd year (RS Sophomore)

2013: Jeremy Johnson- slated as starter in 3rd year
2011: Kiehl Frazier- backup for 2 seasons, transferred
2010: Cam Newton- became starter in 1st year

2011: Jacoby Brissett- back to Jeff Driskel for 2 seasons, transferred after sophomore year
2011: Jeff Driskell- became starter in 2nd year, injuries led to transfer in 2015

2013: Brice Ramsey- listed as starter for 2015 season (RS Sophomore)
2011: Christian Lemay- never started, transferred after 2 seasons

2012: Patrick Towles- became starter in 3rd year (RS Sophomore)

2013: Anthony Jennings- became starter in 2nd year
2011: Zach Mettenberger- became starter in 2nd year
2011: Jerrard Randall- never started, transferred after 2 seasons

2010: James Franklin- became starter in 2nd year

2013: Ryan Buchanan- in battle for starting QB spot (RS Sophomore)

2013: Connor Mitch- favorite for starter in 3rd year (RS Sophomore)

2012: Nathan Peterman-never became permanent starter, transferred after 3 years
2010: Tyler Bray- became starter midway through 1st year

2013: Kenny Hill- became starter in 2nd year (has since transferred)
2012: Matt Davis- never started, transferred after 2 years

2013: Johnathon McCrary: became starter midway through 2nd year (RS Freshman)

Number of 4 or 5-star SEC QB commits between 2010-13: 22
Became starter during 1st year: 2
Became starter during 2nd year: 6
Became starter during 3rd year: 3
Became starter during 4th year: 0
Transferred After 1-3 years never starting: 7
Switched Positions: 1
Leader to start for first time this year: 3

Article written by Bryan the Intern

44 Comments for BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: If Towles Keeps Job This Year, Barker’s Future Uncertain…..

  1. dpvatty
    8:10 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    So a guy will be a redshirt junior and start for two years (presumably unless he’s beat out). that’s how depth works.

    • Bryan the Intern
      8:19 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

      The point of the post is that a guy of Barker’s recruiting caliber doesn’t typically wait around 4 years to start. I hope he does, but the past shows us it’s unlikely.

  2. jared
    8:12 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    This is actually the ideal scenario (both for him and UK). He will be awesome for his Jr and Sr year and will have great talent around him. Best scenario for him to be a draft pick. And will allow Hoak time to adjust to college game as the #2 behind him.

  3. Drew Barker
    8:14 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    I will transfer to Eastern

  4. jdarren1963
    8:31 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Looks like Barker will be the first 4 or 5-star QB to not start until his 4th year in school in the SEC.

  5. Tej
    8:32 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    A lot can happen to change the qb situation-Patrick could be injured or Patrick could not live up to expectations. Barker can look forward to starting two years at an SEC school. That’s not so bad. There is no certainty that transferring will insure a starting position. He could be beaten out somewhere else too. Barker is a UK kid and I hope that he will see that he has a good future where he is.

  6. Jtizzle
    8:33 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    I think its a non-issue. For whatever reason if he wanted to transfer, he would have to sit out another year and not get to start until his 4th year either way unless he dropped to FCS. I highly doubt he would drop to FCS. Take the fact that Stoops said he would play Barker some and the unlikely scenario that Towles starts every game the next 2 years, I think we are somewhat safe.

  7. 80 Proof
    8:38 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    BTI is a fuggin moron. What a ridiculous article.

    • Ramsey Rocket
      8:47 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

      Did you ever consider that Barker loves the UK program and wants it to succeed whether he wins the job or not. He’ll have 2 years of being the man plus, 2 more of being 1 play away from being the man. That’s not a bad gig. He’s not going anywhere.

    • dean adams
      10:20 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

      80 Proof is correct

  8. BenHur
    8:43 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Lots of good points in the comments section. Not any good points in the post itself.

  9. Don
    8:43 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Good grief, don’t you guys know anything about football or are you just hoping to get comments on your site? He is just a freshman this year and if he doesn’t play much next year he will still have two full years to play.. Wake up.

  10. Alan Cutler
    8:45 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Drew will play a lot this year

  11. kyle heavy
    8:48 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    What a sad post. Towles has been named the starter during Barker’s RS Freshmen season and now Barker is most likely going to transfer. Hilarious.

    • kyle heavy
      8:50 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

      Btw- What were our other good options? Not recruit Barker? Then, God forbid, Towles gets hurt and we currently have a third string freshmen walk-on from male to throw to the wolves.

  12. Dusty Bonner
    8:49 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Do not transfer to a FBS school! Sticking around to have a chance at top teams like LSU & Arkansas, is better than throwing for over 8,000 yards against teams like Christian Brothers. Damn you Jared Lorenzen, you should have been my center!!

  13. Trevathan
    8:50 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Was Drew a 4-star in all recruiting services? I thought I remembered him being a 3-star for either Rivals or ESPN but I can’t remember. I think we’re really lucky we have someone good enough to keep Drew on the bench.

  14. Ramsey Rocket
    8:50 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    This post was definitely not one of BTI’s best efforts. Transferring is very risky. You never know who you will have to try to beat out. Look at Kyle Allen of Texas A&M, he was the #1 overall qb in his class and if rumors are true, he’s on the verge of losing the starting job to a freshman named Kyler Murray that’s supposed to be the second coming of Johnny Manziel.

  15. Linda Skaggs
    8:56 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Based on his actions, Drew is not too bright. It will be difficult for him to find a school to transfer to

    • Dangers
      9:24 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

      He didn’t do anything that a lot of 18 year old boys don’t do. He’s just in the spotlight so it got blown up more. Yeah, the actions themselves were stupid, and yeah he had plenty of lessons to learn, but I don’t think it says anything about his overall intelligence.

    • Linda Skaggs
      1:37 pm August 18, 2015 Permalink

      I apologize. I’m a stupid bitch.

  16. android guy
    8:58 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Who says Towles won’t go pro after this year? He’s probably the second best pro QB prospect in the SEC. If he improves as normal from last year (especially cutting down the INTs), he’ll get draft buzz.

  17. greginky
    9:02 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Must be a slow news day for crap like this to be posted as “news worthy”. BTI please stop trying to create a story when none exists!

  18. RICK
    9:08 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Kentucky has a way of making 4 or 5 star quarterbacks look bad or ordinary.But now BTI are you trying to start something that you probably should have left alone.

  19. RICK
    9:10 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Linda, Can’t believe you said that about a young man, not to bright might be what should be said about that comment.

  20. Qb
    9:22 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    By all accounts Drew was not a legitimate contender in the QB competition last year. Even towels mentioned yesterday that he had to beat Phillips last year for the job. Drew is fine and will see snaps this year and next.

  21. BernieSadori
    9:33 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    So, Barker should transfer, sit a year, and then return the same year he would be starting at UK as a Jr somewhere else?

  22. ClutchCargo
    9:37 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Nothing to see here. This is just the way college football works, it’s not college basketball where you recruit a guy knowing exactly what his role will be going in. Look at all the highly touted quarterbacks Spurrier had when he was at Florida. Some of them got their shot, struggled a little, and were never heard from again. Not saying that’s the way to go, but it’s not unheard of.

  23. Are you kidding?
    9:38 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Are you people stupid? Or do you just lack reading comprehension? Did BTI say Barker should transfer? All BTI did was point out the facts. Some of you all need some classes.

    • ClutchCargo
      10:08 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

      He said “Barker’s future uncertain.” Implying that he might transfer or otherwise wash out. Everybody’s future is uncertain, that’s why depth is needed.

    • 80 Proof
      10:14 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

      Looks like his future is pretty certain to me. Back up Towles, then become the starter his JR and SR year. Sounds like you and BTI need classes.

  24. James in SC
    10:01 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Interesting article.

    The problem is, why leave at this point? He had a chance to compete for the job, even into fall camp, but he didn’t earn it. I would guess the coaching staff promised him a chance to compete, not the position. If he leaves after this year, he’ll still have 2 years to play somewhere else… the same as he would have at UK. Also, it seems unlikely for him to transfer “up” to a school of higher football caliber than UK–What school of higher football caliber is going to be excited about starting a kid who wasn’t the best on UK’s team, whether that’s fair or not?

    This is interesting, and I’ve wondered where Barker’s mind is with this too, but I think he will be the exception to the rule as he does not have any better options.

  25. Cordialb
    10:09 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    While you can say that the author is merely pointing out facts, the intent of the article is clear as the poorly chosen title itself tries to lead us to believe that ‘If Towles keeps the starting quarterback position, then we are likely to lose Barker’.

    Not a good understanding of college football as overall it is more common than the article suggests that highly rated quarterbacks wait till their Junior year to see significant playing time and are prone to transfer if they do not play before them. In fact, it is quite common to see even worse playing time situations at schools that typically recruit well, ohio state, etc, with the quarterback staying within the program as part of the TEAM.

    Without supporting information, to assume Barker would look to transfer is kind of a slap in the face to Barker himself leading us to believe he isn’t ALL IN and is more concerned with personal success over team success.

    I’ve enjoyed many of BTI’s posts, but this one is just not one of his bests…

  26. nunya
    10:35 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    This is why only Maggard, Roush and Thompson should be allowed to write about football. Matt doesn’t know or really care, BTI is clueless beyond belief and Drew is a snarky dimwit who only survives as comic relief.

    • Butt Hurt?
      1:39 pm August 18, 2015 Permalink

      Whoa. LOL. U mad, bro? 😀

  27. kybigblue
    11:09 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    The difference between Towles and Barker is experience. Barker was a redshirted as a freshmen last year after Towles had two years at UK and won the starting job. So now Towles is the only one with experience as a starter. Don’t be surprised to see Barker put up better numbers his last two years of eligibility compared to Towles numbers his last two years of eligibility. It may turn out to be a good situation for Barker and UK. Plus, if UK isn’t winning, Barker may get a chance sooner rather than later.

  28. WsstKYCat
    11:17 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Wasn’t Towles a 4 star as well? So a 4 star doesn’t beat out a 4 star. Surely Barker knew that this was a possibility coming in. Both young men will be fine.

  29. Craig
    11:22 am August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Given that he’s on the team this year, I don’t see what’s particularly uncertain. He could end up starting this year if Towles doesn’t produce or gets injured. If not, in 2016 he can either be Kentucky’s backup and again possibly start if Towles is injured, becoming the presumptive starter for 2017 and 2018, or he can transfer and sit a year out.

  30. gobgblu37
    1:05 pm August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Looks like BTI got exactly what he was hoping for, a ton of comments. Most I’ve seen on this site in a looong time, especially for football ; )!

  31. wtf
    1:13 pm August 18, 2015 Permalink

    Stupid premise when you take into consideration–which you didn’t–that he will still be able to be the starter for 2 years.

    Of those QB’s you did list that transferred out, how many actually made it to the NFL? Yeah, transferring prematurely isn’t always the right choice.

  32. Rick Pitino
    1:40 pm August 18, 2015 Permalink

    It burns when I pee.

    • Bobby Petrino
      1:45 pm August 18, 2015 Permalink

      I know how you feel. Been there, done that.

  33. steve
    2:50 pm August 18, 2015 Permalink

    BTI starting shit just to start shit….. a needless BS post!!!

  34. bluegrassstu
    6:58 pm August 18, 2015 Permalink

    A story by a clown looking for attention. Drew is going nowhere.