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BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: If Mississippi State Wins, Don’t Argue This…….

So it will always be an interesting game when Mike Leach brings a team in Lexington.  And this Kentucky team badly needs a win over a wounded Bulldogs team.  But considering what has been UK’s struggle so far and the game plan that a Leach coach team will have, the matchup doesn’t look great on paper.  It is certainly possible Miss St. walks out of Kroger Field with a win on Saturday and if they do this fanbase starts to get quite restless.  The coaching differences between Mark Stoops and Leach could not be more stark.  Run heavy versus pass heavy.  Conservative versus aggressive.  And if Mike Leach does win on Saturday, you will certainly have some fans saying they wish a coach like him, with his strategy and mentality, was the UK coach.  Don’t allow them to do it.

And it’s really easy to explain why.  I am not sure that a tenure at Kentucky has ever been softened as the years have gone on more than Hal Mumme’s tenure.  Look, those teams were so much fun to watch and had some of the bigger wins of the last 25 years at Kentucky.  And Mike Leach was the offensive coordinator in 2 of the first 4 years of his tenure.  People seem to think that was an “up” time in UK football but let’s actually remember what happened in those 4 years:

20-26 overall record
10-22 SEC record
0-4 against Florida (Combined Score: 203-104)
0-4 against Georgia
0-4 against Tennessee (Combined Score: 233-93)
2-2 against Louisville
0-2 Bowl Record
11 home losses
Finishes in the SEC: 4th, 4th, 5th, 6th
Probation

Here is Mark Stoops tenure:
44-46 overall record
20-38 SEC record
Beaten Florida
Beaten Tennessee
3-4 against Louisville
2-2 Bowl Record

Better record.  Beaten good teams.  Won bowl games.  No probation.  You may think the product on the field was better under Hal Mumme but the product on the scoreboard was not.  It just wasn’t.  And if Mike Leach walks in and wins on Saturday, that still won’t change the fact that the way Mark Stoops is running this program is working better than the way Mike Leach’s style of program worked here at Kentucky.

So don’t make that argument please.

Article written by Bryan the Intern

13 Comments for BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: If Mississippi State Wins, Don’t Argue This…….



  1. BlueBanker18
    10:06 am October 9, 2020 Permalink

    Kind of a stretch comparing the record of an OC under a different coach to our now head coach. You also have to take into account the caliber of players then vs. now. I truly believe our issues are with Eddie Gran more than they are with Stoops.



    • BowdenQB4ever
      10:49 am October 9, 2020 Permalink

      KSR basically runs low quality sponsored content for UKAD, masquerading as fan blog. This isn’t the kind of article they would be pushing if they were confident in the next 8 weeks at all. Stoops has made a lot of people look foolish, and now we’re in a financial position where we can’t really to afford to move on from a mediocre X&O coach with an obscene buyout. No one will argue he didn’t do a good job building the program. But he gets outcoached in game and consistently doesn’t have the team prepared in the big games that would get us over the hump in the east. It’s time we had a coach who can make the most of the talent we have. There’s a good chance that man is coaching in the state of Mississippi, and we can’t afford to make the move so they’re all going to double down on stoops no matter how ugly it gets.



    • CJKAssassin123
      11:18 am October 9, 2020 Permalink

      Um hello we are in the middle of a global pandemic! The team had no real off-season,no spring training,and Terry has been out for over a year. Honestly people how did you expect us to play. I knew this was going to happen that’s what I keep predicting a 4-6 season although I think it will now be a 2-8 or a 1-9 record which in a normal year it would be a 6-6,or 5/7 kind of season if they do end up with 4 wins then that would translate to an 8-4 season in a normal year.



    • chris gettelfinger is not walking through that door
      2:29 pm October 9, 2020 Permalink

      CJ, all the other teams were affected by Covid, so that’s no excuse.



  2. CJKAssassin123
    11:32 am October 9, 2020 Permalink

    **That’s why** not **that’s what**



    • justgettingstartedbro
      11:37 am October 9, 2020 Permalink

      Every team can say the same thing about the global pandemic affecting them. I agree with you in that how did people expect us to play other than they were overhyped (all things being equal). Still gonna watch them regardless and cheer them on even if they only win a few games.



    • CJKAssassin123
      12:32 pm October 9, 2020 Permalink

      Which is the constant big mistake we as fans keep making! When we over hype something up like this UK team you are destined to be left down and as a result fans get sad, mad,and confused as to why? Fans need to learn to carefully examine all of the factors involved before making a judgement as to how the season will go. If they do that it’s much easier to make more accurate and set more likely expectations for the season which will help to prevent them from setting themselves up for disappointment. The problem is that not everyone has the time not the interest in doing so. So it’s a wash. Just wanted to point that out. I always set my expectations low for every season in every sport why? So I’m not too disappointed when or if those expectations actually occur,and I do so with hope that UK will exceed those expectations. I actually like our chances Saturday especially in a monsoon which is what Hurricane Delta is going to bring to the area around game time making the game pretty much a “no fly zone” although it has to be said that Mike Leech’s offense’s over the years in games with similar weather conditions have still managed to put up about 50% of there their avg number of passing yards per game, which is pretty impressive to say the least. However if the game flow will greatly benefit UK. And I think both teams will elect to go for two instead of kicking the extra point for much of the game if not for the entire game I also would not expect many FGA’s if any. I think Miss St will win the game but it will be pretty low scoring as a result of the expected weather conditions. However if the Game begins dry and stays dry for the duration of the game then Miss St wins in a blowout and maybe in shut out fashion. If people don’t know who Costello is think Patrick Mahomes from a style and skill-set prospective,with Dak Prescott’s frame. So yeah our D is in for a very long night!!!



  3. SuperTroy18
    12:14 pm October 9, 2020 Permalink

    Not a very fair comparison really. Those Florida and Tennessee teams were winning national championships during Mumme’s years. Vols had a guy named Manning back there. Gators had a guy named Spurrier coaching. The East has been WIDE open the years that Stoops has been here. It’s year 8. I just expected more this season.
    And the whole “pandemic” excuse doesn’t play. Auburn was completely gutted by COVID, and they were not at full strength. They still dominated in the second half. UGA exposed them bad. We should’ve beaten Auburn. We DEFINITELY should’ve trounced Ole Miss. this season is a major disappointment.
    I’ll take Stoops over Mumme any day, simply due to the probation he brought the program. Nothing is worth that. Still, this program should be better in Stoops’ eighth year at the helm. Had Mumme done things the right way, who knows what he could’ve done in his 8th?
    I hope Stoops can get the season back on track, but with only SEC teams this year, I’m not getting my hopes up like I did this past Summer.



    • chris gettelfinger is not walking through that door
      2:31 pm October 9, 2020 Permalink

      You beat me to it. UF and UT were at their peak and we had to play them both every year since we’re in the east.



  4. justgettingstartedbro
    4:45 pm October 9, 2020 Permalink

    CJKAssassin I agree with your statement above. However as casual fans the only thing that we have to gauge how the team is going to perform is by the “hype” we are given by the media and the coaches as a whole. I am a casual fan who loves to watch them play, win or lose (most losses are still frustrating though). I think your assessment for this weekends game is spot on. If it weren’t for the predicted monsoon this could easily be a win for MSU. I wouldn’t place a bet on this one because of that reason alone. I’ll still be pulling for the Cats regardless.



  5. Thetruthshallsetbennyfree
    9:53 pm October 9, 2020 Permalink

    Except olds mums didn’t believe in defense and Leach does. If Mike Leach can instill a new offense and defense in this Covid shortened offseason well enough to beat a KY team with mostly the same team and scheme as they had last offseason than yes you can argue we should have gotten Leach.



  6. KyZoneBlitz
    5:43 pm October 10, 2020 Permalink

    People, the first 2 games of the season werent blowouts, we were robbed of a score at auburn, so at worse the score SHOULDVE been 20-29, but if the 7 wasn’t stolen from us, and we go into the 2nd half up 14-8, when the 4th quarter came, the score would’ve been, again AT WORST, 22-20/21, if you add both auburn scores, and Akeem Hayes TD Catch. We play much different if that’s the case, and probably win IMO. This past week against Ole Miss, we left 18 points on the field (Rose not finishing his run early, then fumbles the score away, DeMarcus Harris dropped TD pass that bounced off his chest at the 2 yard line, if he makes the catch he falls into the endzone, that’s 7 points, then finally Ruffalo missed both a field goal AND the PAT in OT) it’s hard to win a game when that happens, especially against an offensive team like ole miss, who will probably score more than 35/40 on everyone but Bama, or UGA. The final score SHOULDVE been 52-35, remove both scores in OT and then the missed PAT by Ruffalo, score was 35-35 at the end of the 4th. Add the 17 onto our final score, 52-35 would’ve been the score, and the Route we all thought would happen before the game started which would’ve put us in the same boat as Florida who everyone thinks is going to the playoff this year. Only difference is, they gave up around 150/200 more yards to ole miss (Over 600) than we did (Around 450). Plus Terry Wilson played Extremely Well, and if not for our WR DeMarcus Harris (Who I think will end up being a star, still really young) dropping 4 Passes (All 4 of Wilson’s incompletions, and All but 1 of them were about as good as a pass can get), Terry Wilson goes at least 17-18 (94.4%) with 4 total TDs, and probably around 230-240 yards, and there isn’t anybody that can say 17-18 isn’t impressive, even if it was ole miss. You guys are acting like we’ve been completely out-matched and out-performed, when that’s not the case, instead, we’ve out-performed BOTH of our opponents statistically, but other than being Robbed of 7, the mistakes have been self-inflicted, nothing our opponent has forced us into, whether it be dropped passes/TDs, missed field goals/PATs, mental lapses (Rose’ run – He should’ve been BENCHED afterwards IMO), it’s cost us, but it IS correctable, and it will be fixed, trust in this staff to get it done, or why even be a fan?? Yes you can not like the staff, question their abilities, etc… But try to atlwast balance it out from time to time maybe instead of Constant negativity.



  7. yoshukai
    6:18 pm October 10, 2020 Permalink

    Funny that you didn’t mention wins over Alabama and LSU . Cherry pick much ? Lol