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BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: Every Stat You Need for Those Who Criticize Calipari

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I have reached my limit of hearing opposing fans talk about how much Calipari has underachieved at Kentucky.  There is no question that Cal has let at least 2 obvious title chances slip through his fingers (2010 and 2015) and as it turned out a couple more where the tournament played out and gave the Cats a chance (2011 and 2014).  But tell me which of the “top” coaches below can’t say the same thing.  And tell me which of the fanbases below wouldn’t want the teams year after year that Kentucky has produced, titles or not.

So I took basically every statistical category that anybody ever uses to describe the best coaches in college basketball and placed the 8 best coaches in there who have been at the same school as long as John Calipari has been at Kentucky (8 years).  Here is what you find:

TOTAL WINS
John Calipari: 249
Bill Self: 247
Mark Few: 239
Coach K: 238
Roy Williams: 221
Rick Pitino: 216
Jay Wright: 208
Tom Izzo: 208

CONFERENCE WINS
Bill Self: 117
Mark Few: 116
John Calipari: 111
Coach K: 103
Jay Wright: 100
Rick Pitino: 98
Roy Williams: 97
Tom Izzo: 96

REGULAR SEASON CONFERENCE TITLES
Bill Self: 8
Mark Few: 7
John Calipari: 5
Roy Williams: 4
Jay Wright: 4
Rick Pitino: 2
Tom Izzo: 2
Coach K: 1

CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT TITLES
Mark Few: 6
John Calipari: 5
Bill Self: 4
Coach K: 3
Rick Pitino: 3
Tom Izzo: 3
Jay Wright: 2
Roy Williams: 1

SWEET 16’S
John Calipari: 6
Bill Self: 5
Coach K: 5
Roy Williams: 5
Tom Izzo: 5
Rick Pitino: 4
Mark Few: 3
Jay Wright: 1

ELITE 8’S
John Calipari: 6
Bill Self: 4
Roy Williams: 4
Coach K: 3
Rick Pitino: 3
Tom Izzo: 3
Mark Few: 2
Jay Wright: 1

FINAL FOURS
John Calipari: 4
Coach K: 2
Roy Williams: 2
Rick Pitino: 2
Tom Izzo: 2
Bill Self: 1
Mark Few: 1
Jay Wright: 1

NATIONAL TITLES
Coach K: 2
Calipari and 5 other guys: 1
Everybody else: 0

NBA 1ST ROUND DRAFT PICKS
John Calipari: 21
Coach K: 11
Bill Self: 9
Roy Williams: 6
Tom Izzo: 3
Mark Few: 2
Rick Pitino: 2
Jay Wright: 0

Those are 9 statistical categories ranging from conference success to overall success to tournament success to NBA success to all of the major levels of the tournament.  And in those 9 statistical categories, matched up with 8 of the best coaches in the country, John Calipari:

1st place: 5 of 9
2nd place: 3 of 9
3rd place: 1 of 9

Letting titles that could have been won slip through your fingers sucks.  And I don’t think it is unfair to say that Calipari had the clear best team in the country twice (2010 and 2015) and didn’t win it.  But how many times has that happened to Bill Self, like let’s say THIS YEAR.  How many times has it happened to Coach K?  Let’s say ALMOST EVERY YEAR.  But they don’t receive the criticism of Cal.

Remember those numbers above, at all levels of basketball, and use them a ton when arguing about Cal’s success here.  We will NEVER have it this good again.  And nobody in the country has it this good right now.

Article written by Bryan the Intern

38 Comments for BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: Every Stat You Need for Those Who Criticize Calipari



  1. JoeMoney333
    8:15 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

    I’m not sure what the numbers are but I’d hypothesize the correlation between people who criticize Calipari and those who believe in a flat earth is high.



  2. Wildcat Sheli
    8:20 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

    Thanks for the stats! We sure are spoiled. Cal is the absolute best.

    Here’s another stat:
    Elite Eight Losses under Cal: only 2
    Final Four SemiFinal Losses under Cal: 2

    John Higgins officiated all but 1 of those losses. Both Final Four SemiFinals and 1 Elite Eight.

    John Higgins has officiated in every Final Four weekend since 2010, except one: 2012.



    • Ridge Runner
      8:26 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

      Nice insight there, Sheli



    • Wildcat Sheli
      9:16 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

      The other Elite Eight loss (to WVU in 2010) was preceded by a Sweet Sixteen win vs. Cornell, officiated by John Higgins. We were a #1 Seed, they were a #12. This was the Wall-Boogie-Blesdoe-Patterson year when the ‘Cats were back.
      That game was so horribly officiated, Bilas couldn’t help but say more than once, “that call was impossible to miss”. While the final score was 62-45, it was only a 9 point game with 1:11 to go. There were some nail biting moments in that one. Many have commented over the years that it impacted the way we played in our loss to WVU 2 days later.

    • Boy, I’m usually not a conspiracy theorist, but that’s troubling. We let UL & KU come back in those 2012 FF games after we had been thrashing them. UL tied it, and yes, it was Cal’s coaching that allowed that to happen. He admitted after both games he took the foot off the gas. Unfortunately he didn’t learn his lesson and it, in part, cost us a championship in 2015.

      If Higgins had been the ref…as Realme said the other day…that is a horrifying thought. We would probably only be 1 ahead of UNC now, unless 2005 is vacated, which I do not expect.



  3. Ridge Runner
    8:24 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

    We’re fortunate for sure. It’s easy to point a finger when ya lose for many and hell all of us aren’t perfect.



  4. smahurin
    8:44 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

    You should also throw NCAA tourney wins in that stat category… spoiler, he’s also first in the NCAA in that as well.



  5. AncientOne
    8:46 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

    Probably should have included Sean Miller in this group.



    • CATandMONKEY
      9:48 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

      If Miller had acheived top stats in these categories he would be listed.



  6. cking
    8:51 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

    You can be sure that there is going to be another 30 for 30 that’s going to document all these great numerical facts, but will highlight our inability to win the championship.

    We have had more talent in the last 8 years, than most schools have had in the past 50.

    Cal told us that this isn’t about championships, it’s about the players and getting them in the NBA.

    Boy was he right on…But this is getting old.

    All the facts above do not change that with all this talent we sure DO NOT have much to SHOW for it.



    • Wildcat Sheli
      9:01 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

      Check out Comment 2 and see if there’s a connection . . .



    • CATandMONKEY
      9:52 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

      You should pledge your allegiance to any team but UK.
      National Championships are hard ro acheive. Period. Often the actual best team does NOT win the NC Connecticut best team? Play best of 5 and they don’t have 2 NCs in the recent past. The Round of 64 has much randomness.

    • “National Championships are hard to achieve.”

      C & M, I’ve cited that SO often on here. We’ve averaged basically 1 ‘ship every 11 years if you go back to when Rupp took over, roughly 1 per decade.



    • cking
      10:47 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

      Bull****

      We have had more talent in the last 8 years than most programs have had in the past 30.

      Championships are hard to win..give me a break.

      It’s all or nothing with Cal. And to state the cold hard facts…outside of 12 it’s been nothing.



    • CATandMONKEY
      11:09 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

      How many teams in Div I? Cal has done better in 8 years than ANY coach at UK. If Rupp faced the parity that exists in ball today he wouldn’t be ” Adolf Rupp.”



  7. Marcus Areolas
    9:41 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

    Doesn’t Roy Williams have 2 National Championships now?

  8. BTI, you didn’t mention the number of championships. The stats you site are nice and all, and I’m VERY glad we have Cal, but we mostly measure by national championships, just like Bama football. You may not like that, but that’s the way it is.

    I’m usually positive on here, and again, I’m glad we have Cal, but don’t act like he’s perfect. He makes some head scratching moves, and he is stubborn. Mostly I point you to the way he takes his foot off the gas, and as I mentioned above, it almost cost us a ‘ship in 2012, and DID cost us a ‘ship in 2015.



  9. ukbradstith
    10:31 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

    So far all of you that think championships are the only measure, that means Cal is tied for the second best coach in the NCAA. Since we can’t get K, guess we’ll just have to live with that.



    • cking
      10:53 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

      Take these numbers all the way back to Memphis..where Cal had 3 trips to the elite Eight..one final Four/one championship game.

      It doesn’t hide that Cal has lost 3 championship games and our 38-1 team didn’t even make it.

      Yeah we are awesome…it’s getting OLD watching us come up short.



    • CATandMONKEY
      11:12 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

      Ad hominem appropriate:
      Cking you are a miserable human being.



    • theWilkman
      11:59 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

      Quit watching, then. Thanks



  10. Marcus Areolas
    10:51 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

    K – 5
    Roy – 3
    Rick – 2
    Cal – 1
    Self – 1

    Final 4’s are nice, and if you take out all the times the committees and/or refs have hosed us/Cal, we’d probably have at least 1 more championship. I like Cal, but a Final 4 is 4th place and last i heard they ain’t no medal fo’ fourth. If we can be treated fairly by the committee and refs, I say Cal gets another one. I’m just not sure if that will ever happen.



    • cking
      10:56 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

      Agreed the real record of cal being 1-4 in championship games sucks.

      38-1 team didn’t even get there.



  11. wildcatfan20
    10:58 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

    Those who criticize Cal, look at the very numbers you posted…10 more NBA players than the next team and we have the below numbers to show for it.

    UCONN Program – 2 final fours – 2 Championships = 100%
    Coach K – 2 final fours – 2 Championships = 100%
    Roy Williams – 3 final fours – 2 Championships = 67%
    Jay Wright – 2 final fours – 1 Championship = 50%
    Rick P – 2 final fours – 1 Championship = 50%
    John Cal – 4 final fours – 1 Championship = 25% (Bill Self and Tom Izzo fall into this same range which is why they get criticized as well)

    Coach Cal has a significantly lower success rate once he is IN the final four. Kentucky fans want championships, not final fours (final fours are great, but…). Before Cal got to Kentucky, we were winning the championship over 50% of the time we made it to the Final Four…now, not so much.

    Hear me out though, I wouldn’t trade Cal for anyone…but when he leaves, maybe we could get Donovan or Brad Stevens….most likely not.

    I do think it is going to be tough to ever win another Championship with Coach Cal though…the only year we won it, we were head and shoulders above everyone and the NCAA couldn’t do anything about it…all the other years, between them stacking the bracket against us, mis-seeding our teams, and providing us with biased refs, it is going to be difficult unless we are that much better than everyone like we were in 2012.



    • cking
      11:03 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

      Great points…



    • CATandMONKEY
      11:15 am April 4, 2017 Permalink

      Terrible points.
      Donovan dissed us twice. Fck Billy.

      Stevens “ain’t walking through that door” and if he did he doesn’t have a college record even close to Cal’s.



    • wildcatfan20
      12:51 pm April 4, 2017 Permalink

      Clearly, CATandMONKEY, you didn’t read my comment….the full text was “I wouldn’t trade Cal for anyone…but when he leaves, maybe we could get Donovan or Brad Stevens….most likely not.”

      That implies that I currently DON’T want anyone other than Cal, and two, I DON’T think either of those guys would come to Kentucky. I agree with you about Donovan, but he would do wonders at Kentucky. He won two championships at FLORIDA……….



    • wildcatfan20
      12:54 pm April 4, 2017 Permalink

      One extremely positive note about Coach Cal is that he KNOWS how to handle being the coach of Kentucky. It is not easy to manage the fans, the expectations, and the History at Kentucky. He has done a tremendous job that I think will actually boost our program for years after he is gone. Think about the numbers they just published, Kentucky is the most valuable Men’s Basketball Program. That’s on Cal. He has turned our program around and we are now, once again, one of the most coveted programs to Coach. We aren’t going to have to settle for a Billy G after Cal leaves.



    • bdmnky81
      2:04 pm April 4, 2017 Permalink

      Your own comment at the end shows why your “stats” are skewed. The only team that can actually claim to have played the type of crucible we have to annually is UCONN….and even when they won the first one it cost them a HOF coach because the ncaa got pissed. We know duke routinly gets a cake walk. UNC in it good years as well. Putting jay wrights record overall against cals will show you why thats a laughable comparison. And rick….well….we all know the devils price he paid to get his one championship at lville. During a down year overall in the ncaa.



    • Wildcat Sheli
      9:43 pm April 4, 2017 Permalink

      See Comment 2. Higgins officiated both of Cal’s Final Four SemiFinals losses.



  12. BeePee39
    9:24 pm April 4, 2017 Permalink

    This just reminds me of how bad that I dread the day that I hear these words uttered from Coach Cal’s mouth “Today I am stepping down as coach from the University of Kentucky.”.