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BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: Can Any Of These Records Be Broken?

Over the course of the last few years, we have seen a few of Kentucky’s great records fall.  Jodie Meeks broke the single game scoring record and John Wall broke single game assists record.  Nearly every freshman record has been broken by numerous guys.  But, there are tons of records still out there that haven’t been touched in decades.  I list my Top 7 records that I don’t think will ever be broken.  Keep in mind that these are school records, so Rupp’s 876 wins is just a UK record, not the NCAA mark.  I want to know if I missed a record or if the order is wrong.  What do you think?

1. Bill Spivey and Bob Burrow Single Game Rebounds (34 rebounds)

-UNTOUCHABLE.  Just for some perspective, here are the single game highs for rebounds in each season Calipari has been here:

2009-10: Patrick Patterson, Demarcus Cousins- 18 (twice)
2010-11: Terrence Jones: 17
2011-12: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist- 19
2012-13: Nerlens Noel- 16
2013-14: Julius Randle- 16 (twice)
2014-15: Karl Anthony Towns- 13
2015-16: Alex Poythress-13
2016-17: Wenyen Gabriel- 16

No player has had more than 24 rebounds in a game since 1976.  40 years and nobody has gotten within 10 rebounds.  In the current game, this record just can’t be broken.

2. Adolph Rupp Career Wins (876 wins)

-John Calipari said it himself.  Coaches don’t last long at Kentucky.  They get burned out.  The pressure and daily grind of the job only allows a 10-15 year tenure tops.  Rupp coached 42 seasons at Kentucky.  Since he retired, 6 coaches have combined to coach 42 seasons.  It’s the sheer fact that no coach could last 35 or 40 years at this job that makes this record unbreakable.  But maybe if we allow Coach Cal to coach until he is 90, maybe I will be proven wrong.

3. Home-Court Winning Streak (129 games)

-This is the NCAA record as well, and while is certainly takes an amazing run to match this record, it’s not the most unbreakable.  Hell, John Calipari didn’t lose a game at Rupp for his first 3 1/2 years and that still just got him 55 wins.  Rupp’s teams did it without the greatest competition, but to go 12 years without losing at home, stretching 2 different arenas, is pretty amazing.

4. Dan Issel Career Scoring Average (25.8 ppg)

-This record will very likely not be broken.  Here are the closest anybody has come to a career scoring average of 25.8ppg before or after Issel played: Nash (22.7 ppg). Grevey (21.4 ppg), Dampier (19.7 ppg).  And while 3ppg may not seem like much between Issel and Nash, that equates to an extra 350 points over the course of a career.

5. Dirk Minniefield Career Assists (646 assists)

-Just how big the gap between Dirk and the rest of the field.  Well, the #2 guy in career assists is Anthony Epps, who is 102 total assists behind Minniefield.  Oh yeah, Epps played 18 more games than Minniefield.  Wayne Turner, who some call the best UK point in the modern era, is 152 assists behind Minniefield despite playing 28 more games.  That is almost an entire extra season for Turner, and he still wasn’t close.  The real problem is that it is incredibly rare for a great point guard to stay 4 years and start in 3 or 4 of those years.  With the one and done point guard factory UK has become, it’s unlikely this record will be touched under Cal.  Or any other coach.

6. Dan Issel Career Scoring (2,138 points)

-Since Issel graduated in 1970, 2 UK players have gotten within 100 points of the scoring record, Jack Givens and Kenny Walker.  Both Jamal Mashburn and Patrick Patterson would have broken the scoring record if they had played their senior seasons.  So, this record is not totally out of reach.  But, what is unquestionably out of reach is the 3-year scoring record.  Nobody has gotten with 275 points of that record.

7. Consecutive Senior Day Wins (32 wins)

-From 1965 to 1997, Kentucky never lost on Senior Day.  Since that 1997 loss to South Carolina, UK hasn’t had a streak of more than 8 games.  It’s just a weird streak that nearly lasted 65 YEARS.  If not for a loss on Cotton Nash’s senior day is 1964, Kentucky did not lose on Senior Day between 1933 and 1997.

Article written by Bryan the Intern

8 Comments for BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: Can Any Of These Records Be Broken?

  1. meeksfor3
    8:50 am May 26, 2017 Permalink

    I like Turner as much as anyone but the best UK point guard in the modern era? Really? Have you been in a coma for the past 8 years? We have had some pretty good point guards lately.

    Oh and as far as the Career PPG record, nothing says they have to stay 4 years so a one and done guy could technically break that record by averaging over 25 for 1 season. Heck Monk was averaging 22+ per game until a late season slump in which he only broke 20 points twice in the last 8 games of the season.

    • ClutchCargo
      8:55 am May 26, 2017 Permalink

      It’s tough to argue against Turner being the best UK point guard at the college level. I think there have been several who could have become greater with time.

    • EdC
      8:56 am May 26, 2017 Permalink

      Turner’s longevity doesn’t make him the best point guard. Loved him for the time but he could only get bench minutes on teams with Wall, Bledsoe, Ulis and Fox.

      Even in a season it is hard to get past Big Dan on #4. Calipari wouldn’t have told Monk to stop shooting if he peed down Calipari’s leg during every timeout. Add to that Monk is a great scorer but he still didn’t get there.

    • meeksfor3
      10:52 am May 26, 2017 Permalink

      You mention Monk shooting too much below are some stats of some guys and the number of shots they took per game. As you can see most team’s best player usually takes between 12-15 shots per game. Monk shots per game wasn’t anything out of the ordinary.

      Marquell Fultz- 17.56
      Josh Jackson- 12.68
      Justin Jackson- 14.90
      Luke Kennard-13.1
      Jason Tatum- 12.6
      Frank Mason- 13.7
      Malik Monk- 14.7

  2. Ridge Runner
    9:01 am May 26, 2017 Permalink

    It’s hard to think on anything with the word “career” in it for records during this era. Seasonal records are where I like to look at at times to see what and who has a chance to be challenged.

    • Ridge Runner
      9:07 am May 26, 2017 Permalink

      I do admit the home court consecutive win record would be tough to break with competition being what it is. UCONN women record is mind boggling if you force yourself to get away from yes, its women’s basketball and focus on it’s still basketball.

  3. ArtSmass
    12:00 pm May 26, 2017 Permalink

    re: 34 rebounds in a single game.

    Have some of you seen the old footage from a 1950s era game? If DeMarcus Cousins or Anthony Towns were playing in those games they’d have maybe have 50-50 games points and rebounds.

    When I see those old games with zero black athletes and what appears to be one or two outlier good white athletes (with about 8 guys on the court–guards included–who look like my 6 year old nephew trying to make the ball bounce straight up to him when he dribbles) I feel a lot less enamored with those titles from the 40s and 50s. Did UK just happen to get EVERY decent halfway-coordinated bball player or what?

  4. CatBlue in LR
    1:55 pm May 26, 2017 Permalink

    P. Pat. would have broken Issel’s scoring record with another year? Really? I don’t remember his ever averaging more than 12 or 13 points a game, but you’re saying he would have gotten more than 21-hundred points?