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BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: 2nd Year Starters, What’s the Improvement?

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Patrick Towles is actually doing something this year that hasn’t been done many times in UK football over the last 25 years, starting a 2nd full year at quarterback.  In fact, there have really only been 4 full-time starters: Couch, Lorenzen, Woodson, and Hartline.  In Lorenzen’s case, he started his entire freshman year, split time his sophomore year and then started his final 2 years.  So in his case his 2 years were split up.  But for the other 3, what was the improvement from Year 1 to Year 2?  I think if I was a Patrick Towles fan, I would like what I see below.

MIKE HARTLINE (2008, 2010) *Hartline was injured in 2009
Passing Yards: 1666 to 3178 (UP 90.8%)
Passing TD’s: 9 to 23 (UP 155.6%)
Completions: 172 to 268 (UP 55.8%)

ANDRE WOODSON (2005-2006)
Passing Yards: 1644 to 3515 (up 114.4%)
Passing TD’s: 6 to 31 (UP 416.7%)
Completions: 146 to 264 (UP 80.8%)

TIM COUCH (1997-1998)
Passing Yards: 3884 to 4611 (UP 18.7%)
Passing TD’s: 37 to 38 (UP 2.7%)
Completions: 363 to 430 (UP 21.2%)

Even Tim Couch, who put up numbers that have still not been seen in UK history, saw significant increase in his passing yards and completions from his 1st year to his 2nd year.  Woodson saw the biggest jump as his skills really took off in his junior season and even Mike Hartline, after an injury plagued year, saw huge jumps in his 2nd full year as QB.

Towles had pretty good numbers last year, so I don’t expect a 75% jump in yards or anything.  But I would be very surprised in a 2nd full year in this program as starter, that we don’t see increases in the 3 categories listed above.  What about you?  What kind of season do you anticipate Patty Ice having this year statistically?

Article written by Bryan the Intern

6 Comments for BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: 2nd Year Starters, What’s the Improvement?



  1. CalRipken
    8:47 am August 31, 2015 Permalink

    I think if the defense can hold up their end of the bargain the Cats will do reasonably well. Would be a welcome change for sure.



    • novalsi
      8:50 am August 31, 2015 Permalink

      That’s not an answer to the question at all …



  2. novalsi
    8:57 am August 31, 2015 Permalink

    Passing Yards: 2718 up 22% to 3300
    Passing TD’s: 14 up 78% to 25
    Completions: 225 up 33% to 300

    Probably throws fewer INTs, as well (since 2-3 of them last year were the fault of WRs, and he has a TE this year). Maybe 6 instead of 9.



  3. Bookend
    9:08 am August 31, 2015 Permalink

    With an experienced O-line, and many more athletic receivers and RB’s, if he doesn’t show significant improvement I would consider him a failure. Having said that, I think he will have an outstanding year and lead the team to a bowl. Surround yourself with talent, and you will usually look like a star. Surround yourself with “yes” men, and you will be exposed as a jacka**. We all know who that might be on Penn. Ave.



  4. Bob Ed Thom
    9:42 am August 31, 2015 Permalink

    I think the 2nd year improvement in the WR Corp will have the most impact in Patty Ice’s increases in numbers. If Pat just shows the skill of last year I think the WR improvements will cause 3500-4000 YRDs passing. I think the 25 or more TDs will be on the table as well. I think the offense is ready to explode on some people.



  5. gobgblu37
    10:24 am August 31, 2015 Permalink

    Towles will have a big year; Passing 4069 TDs 31, Running 369 TDs 8. He will get some Heisman consideration.