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Will Kentucky be one of the 5-7 teams to go to a bowl?

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With everything going on around the program, it’s hard to believe there’s still a chance this team could go to a bowl game. This year, there are 40 bowl games, so 80 teams are needed to fill those spots. Currently, only 75 teams are bowl eligible (a record of 6-6 or better). There are three teams with 5-6 records with one game left to play: Kansas State, South Alabama, and Georgia State. That means that right now, TWO 5-7 teams are going to a bowl game, possibly FIVE. There could be up to 17 5-7 teams. Does Kentucky have a chance?

In 2012, the NCAA came up with a plan to choose which 5-7 teams go to a bowl by ranking them by their APR (Academic Progress Rate). Kentucky football’s most recent 4-year APR composite is 945, which would put them well below other teams in contention, such as:

  • Nebraska (985)
  • Missouri (976)
  • Kansas State (976)
  • Minnesota (975)
  • San Jose State (975)
  • Illinois (973)
  • Rice (973)

However, ESPN is reporting that the NCAA Football Oversight Committee may decide to use a different criteria to select teams or do away with the APR requirement all together. They’re expected to figure all of that out in the coming days. Mark Stoops has already said if his team is offered a bowl game, they’ll take it. For now, we wait.

[ESPN]

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63 Comments for Will Kentucky be one of the 5-7 teams to go to a bowl?



  1. jasonwells1982
    10:55 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

    No CBS have Kentucky on better luck next year.



    • BluKudzu
      2:17 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      If Mitch Barnhart is serious about this football program, he would cut his losses, and head to Houston and hire Tom Herman, the former Ohio State OC, and chief recruiter, and make him head coach at Kentucky. He has taken Houston to the brink, and he can beat Louisville. He should be on a plane soon, because Tom is about to ink a big contract. This guy is the real deal, I went to see his team play Louisville, excellent defense, up tempo offense, excellent special teams. Beat the snot out of them.



    • Heywood Jablomie
      3:24 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Yeah, beat the snot out of them 34-31.



  2. Long Dong Silver
    10:55 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

    For the love of baby Jesus, no. Let this season just be done. Its about mercy, you know?



    • RealCatsFan
      1:11 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      For the love of 8lb, 6oz newborn Baby Jesus… 🙂



    • chimichanga
      1:15 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Why quit now when we have a chance to go 5-8?



    • RealCatsFan
      1:18 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Dear tiny Jesus in your golden-fleece diapers, with your tiny, little, fat, balled-up fists pawing at the air…



  3. jaknfo90
    10:57 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

    Oh please dear Lord don’t let this happen! Drive a stake in this season and call it done. It would be the merciful thing to do…for the fans if nothing else. Who’d buy tickets?



    • kycats13
      11:06 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

      I agree, let this just be over…



    • cats paw
      11:24 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Big Board Update would buy out the game and proclaim it a successful season and demand another raise for Stoops!



    • Booby Petrino
      12:31 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      I’d rather give Stoops more money than have Petrino.



    • cats paw
      2:33 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      sounds like the same comments you and Matt Jones made about Cal before he became our coach! i



  4. Rajonrondo9
    10:57 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

    I say no. It’s basketball season now.



  5. dean winchester
    11:02 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

    I think more reps for Drew Barker….as well as seeing Melvin Lewis suit up in blue again…..IF he could….would be worth it. Although……current projection by espn is independence bowl vs. nc state….who has a dual threat qb if i’m not mistaken……yikes…..



  6. kycats13
    11:05 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

    Just say NO



  7. Sentient Third Eye
    11:08 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

    We have a QB with two starts under his belt. Accepting a bowl bid even under these circumstances is a no brainer. It would be like an extra spring practice for Drew and a chance to get some positive momentum going into next year. And given the way the regular season ended, there’s no risk.



    • jaknfo90
      11:43 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

      No risk? If we get our a**es handed to us, a distinct possibility, recruits having second thoughts might be ready to move on. Put this behind us, get rid of some baggage, hire some much needed quality assistants, a special teams coach would be nice, get these recruits on board and keep your fingers crossed that Stoops and company don’t jack up an even tougher schedule next year.



    • Sentient Third Eye
      11:45 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

      How could ANY outcome be worse than Saturday? Again, no risk (other than maybe injury). Right now there’s nowhere to go except up or sideways.



    • Catsby80
      11:49 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

      I respectfully disagree… Down is a direction that is a very real possibility. If you cannot see that, then I can’t help you. If we were to get blown out by 6-6 Mac school or AAC school, that would be extremely detrimental. I agree the extra practices would be nice, but finishing 5-8 with that kind of loss on our resume would not be beneficial whatsoever.



    • RealCatsFan
      12:07 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      I would tend to agree with other fans that I would just like to bury this season and forget about it. However, if we turn down an opportunity to play and extra game just because we might lose, then it just perpetuates the miserable “play not to lose” aura that hangs around this football program.



    • nybrasky
      12:24 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Anyone who thinks that losing a bowl game is more detrimental to recruiting than rejecting a bowl bid is a complete moron who does not understand the competitive nature of most high-level athletes. Quitting on your team, season & players would be much more devastating to recruiting. Who would want to play for a quitter?



    • Catsby80
      1:19 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      It isn’t about losing the bowl game – losses happen. It is about the way this season has unfolded, the way we have lost to piss poor teams and barely beaten piss poor teams (see Auburn, Vandy, EKU, ULL, USC etc.), it is about not getting embarrassed on national television again. If you can honestly sit in your chair and say that going 5-8 (the only team in the history to ever do so) wouldn’t be detrimental to recruiting, then you are the complete moron. Our team has not shown any inkling of competitiveness the last 6 weeks (minus Charlotte, who is atrocious mind you), and yet somehow you think that because we get invited to the Charmin Bowl, we’re somehow going to come out and compete with a decent team? Give me a break dude.

      I love football as much as the next guy (I actually prefer football to basketball, which is blasphemy to some folks here), but eventually you just have to hang it up and move on. We have ZERO leadership, ZERO heart, and ZERO desire. It is evident that Stoops & Co have had serious issues getting this team prepared and motivated to play football, and I, for one, cannot stand to see this garbage product play another game this season.



    • nybrasky
      2:36 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      So you’re just gonna take your ball, go home, and pout about it? You think quitting and a losers mentality is what it takes to fix issues? You’d want guys on your team who think, “yeah, we should probably just cut losses and not try to get better or compete.”? Good luck ever assembling a team that amounted to anything with that mentality. The extra time is also not just more practice, but also a time to trim fat and cut any problems as you look toward the future.

      I believe Stoops should get more time to put everything together. But if he just waived the white flag and gave up rather than accepting a bowl bid, I’d hope his resignation came with it. If not, any player worth anything would leave, and no self-respecting recruit would come, because it would show that UK will always be a loser.

      So, my suggestion for you is to not watch the game (if it happens). You’re not required to, and guess what – no one cares whether you watch or not. Maybe you should move on as a fan as well and start rooting for a blueblood football school.



  8. CATandMONKEY
    11:11 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

    If we get the bid, we go. $$$ and practice. I don’t want the season to continue but I will support us all the way.



    • tippytoe
      12:55 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Stoops and company need another 20 practices to get this choking thing down to a science.



  9. WesHos
    11:13 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

    Just let the misery end… a 24-21 loss to a MAC team will not help with recruiting.



    • Catsby80
      11:21 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

      This is my fear, as well. I didn’t realize this, but the guys on the show said that we open with Southern Miss next season, who is 9-3 this year… That is concerning, too. I really want to support Stoops & Co. but this season has been very difficult to swallow.



  10. constantinexi
    11:14 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

    I sure hope not. I want to FORGET this dumpster fire.



  11. KTower
    11:20 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

    Kentucky deserves a Bowl Bid as much as any other 5-7 team.

    I hope we get one!



    • constantinexi
      11:24 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Who would we be playing? A 2nd MAC team or low level CUSA team, it will be one of those kinds of bowls. It won’t help the program, and a LOSS (which looks highly likely no matter who it is) will only HURT recruiting!

      At this point it only helps our program to move on from this dumpster fire of a season so everyone focuses on basketball! Better for recruiting to have the University’s name out there for GOOD things, not another football disaster!



    • dean winchester
      11:43 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Constantinexi….if espn is right…big if, we would play nc state in the independence bowl.



  12. Catlogic15
    11:23 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

    If we do get a bid I suggest we do not hold any practices.



  13. bige
    11:31 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

    UK needs all the practice it can get !

    I think the coaches need it more than the players at this point.



  14. ClutchCargo
    11:35 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

    I’m so completely over football after this terrible season, BUT… I hope we get a bid. We will accept it because it would be stupid to turn down the practice time and money. I personally wouldn’t walk across the street to watch such a game, but no coach or A.D. in his right mind would turn down a bowl bid after having gone so long without one.



  15. Sentient Third Eye
    11:47 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

    Is it even a possibility that Melvin could play in a bowl game? What is the status of his recovery?



  16. bigpops
    11:54 am November 30, 2015 Permalink

    You all keep talking money. You lose money playing in small bowl games! 5-7 looks better on paper than 5-8. Ask yourself this…does a team with wins over Louisiana-Lafayette, South Carolina, Missouri, EKU, and Charlotte deserve a bowl game? Not only NO but HELL NO! I can’t stand the thought of watching Stoops cross his arms and walk around like he has Alzheimer’s when they fall behind. The man doesn’t have a clue how to lead a Division I football program! Furthermore, he has surrounded himself with a staff as incompetent as him! Please don’t give this crew a meaningless bowl game!



    • dean winchester
      12:07 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Depends on the bowl. If its the….idk…American standard toilet bowl live from the high school field at Henry Clay….no….but independence bowl pays out 1.1 million…and we play an acc team. But….i doubt we get an invite.



    • Irememberharrylancaster
      12:47 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      The payout may be 1.1 million, but that is before expenses. After expenses there is nothing left. Heck, the bigger the bowl the more money the school loses. Yep, even Alabama will be in the red.



    • catdaddyd
      1:19 am December 1, 2015 Permalink

      Most teams lose money going to bowls. They take the the band, the team/school has to buy x amount of tickets and if they don’t sell have to eat the cost. Now the bigger bowls/playoff teams make money.



  17. RealCatsFan
    12:10 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

    Had a deer run in front of my car last night, and it had the same expression as Mark Stoops during most of the games this year.



    • jaknfo90
      12:39 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Couldn’t have said it any better! I’ve seen that look many times on deer but rarely on a D-1 SEC coach.



  18. Howdy Doody
    12:25 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

    Oh Gawd Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!
    Stick a fork in this bunch..they are DONE !!
    For the love of Gawd do not accept a Pity Bowl Bid !!!



    • Mr. Mojo
      1:01 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Would it really be so much better if we were 6-6? All bowls are pity bowls after the top ten or fifteen.



  19. Duff
    12:43 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

    UK football fans need to shut the hell up and come to realize we do not have a clue what we are talking about. Do we really think we are going to have some type of Coach Cal miracle with Stoops where he turns the program around instantly? We do not have that kind of program! The expectations surrounding the program need to be dialed way back. We play in the SEC!!! We started at rock bottom and it takes 4-5 years at best to achieve the depth required to compete every weekend in the SEC. Stoops is expected to already be there. Right now, we have a team that can play half a season. We are 1 deep at critical positions (i.e. Running Back – just to name one) and major competitive programs like Alabama, LSU, Florida, and A&M are 3 deep at almost every position. It’s not physically possible for our best players to play every down of every game. Hell, we can’t even crack the top 25 in recruiting and we are hauling in some of the best classes we have ever had. That’s where we are right now. LSU, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, Ole Miss, and Auburn, all have top 25 classes for next year, they are all ahead of UK. Just be prepared for a 5-7 to 7-4 season at best next year. I do have hope for the future but that just comes with the territory. I think Stoops and the staff he chooses needs more time instead of everyone hitting the panic button.



    • RC
      1:10 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      These are excellent points and mostly true. But the bigger problem is Coaching Competency. I’ve seen enough of Stoops & Co. to know they’re in over their heads at this level. Recruiting ain’t coaching, and while our recruiting is getting better with Stoops, his game day coaching is subpar.

      My question for you is this- if Stoops & Co. can actually build the talented depth we need to compete in the SEC, do you honestly believe he’s capable of coaching them into the upper half of the SEC?

      I don’t believe he is and feel it’s time for a coaching change. The plethora of better open jobs might keep Barnhart from pulling the trigger but frankly that’s a mistake. Stoops isn’t an SEC caliber head coach. Period.



    • Mr. Mojo
      1:16 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Thank you, Duff, for being the voice of reason. Running off to the next shiny coach every three years is no way to build anything. I’m as disappointed as anybody with how this season turned out, but let’s give the man a chance to build something real. If he fails, fine, then we move on, but I’m not about to cast final judgment on him after three seasons. It’s not like he inherited something good and drove it into the ground (like Joker at UK or Cooper and Kragthorpe at UL). He’s taken a bad team and at least made it mediocre. It may not be as much progress as most of us fantasize about, but it’s a promising start. You can’t build a football program overnight, and panicking now will just move us backward.



    • RUPPS.rhetoric
      1:43 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Well said Duff!



    • Duff
      1:58 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      RC, I agree with your coaching competency apprehensions but I think Stoops needs two more years. If there is no improvement then move on. With out a doubt he needs to clean house within his coaching staff, which I think he will do. I still believe in his leadership and if he brings in guys who really get x’s and o’s we will improve.



    • The Rest of the story
      2:10 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Duff is a moron! Two more years of Stoops incompetent azz would be disaster for UK football. Five years of failure is what he wants to give the fans who have thrown away their money watching the most pathetic coaching staff in all of college football? I am certainly no football coach but I certainly no terrible coaching when I see it.



    • keiths
      2:14 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      And i think you are a dumbass sunshine pumper



  20. jr1122
    12:44 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

    Please no. I dont want Kentucky to be the first 5-8 bowl team.



  21. Jaxson
    12:48 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

    ESPN has two projections for the Independence Bowl. Missouri vs Duke and Kentucky vs NC State. I don’t know if ESPN is using APR or any other requirements. It would seem odd that the bowl would take Missouri since UK beat them, but maybe it’s for the best…..



  22. bigblueforever
    1:11 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

    OMG. Please don’t. I don’t want to be reminded again how bad this staff sucks. If they go, there will be less than 100 UK fans there. Let’s put a fork in this year and move on to basketball.



  23. eyebleedblue
    1:30 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

    The dog is dead, no need to keep kicking and shooting it. Move on.



  24. BluKudzu
    1:41 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

    I can see it now: Stoops 3rd year, after he had taken over a program at the bottom, has taken his team to a bowl! A whole lot of excitement about this program, now firmly in the upswing, climbing back out of the depths, and with freight train momentum, hurtling forward to new heights. Yes, big things lay before this team and the future looks impressive for this, still very young football team.
    Spare me.



    • Catlogic15
      1:54 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Awesome mix of metaphors.



    • BluKudzu
      2:44 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Just thinking how the broadcasters will try to sell this bowl of soup with a fork. Can’t wait for the hype video on this game.

      Anybody find it odd that there has been no statement from the UKAD, supporting Stoops or otherwise, following a season that gave him a similar record after three years as Joker, which Barnhart fired?



  25. Kyblue34
    1:46 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

    This train wreck just needs to be over at this point. I would say let the players decide, but in the second half on Saturday most of them looked like they would rather be at the dentist than playing football. Plus, seeing as how we continue to get worse as the year goes on, I don’t see how extra practices are going to help at all.



  26. The Rest of the story
    2:06 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

    Good grief why in hell would anyone want to be embarrassed on tv yet again. Hell no we won’t go!



  27. jaws2
    2:45 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

    Duff

    If you think UK could go 7-4 next year with the same staff, you sir, are truly delusional. We’ll be fortunate to win the opening game.



    • Sentient Third Eye
      3:02 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      It’s not so far-fetched. If you really think about it, we were three dropped Baker TD passes away from being 7-4 this year…



    • Kyblue34
      3:21 pm November 30, 2015 Permalink

      Yes, but without Baker’s two great TD catches we lose to EKU. Plus, we were one play away from losing to ULL and South Carolina. So, it works both ways, unfortunately. No way are we winning seven next year.