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The Pros and Cons and more Cons from last night’s game


After a very long and unproductive day of napping on the couch, it’s time to write some words about last night’s debacle. Join me for the pros and the cons of Kentucky’s third loss of the season…



Let’s try to find some positives. It won’t be easy.

Austin MacGinnis is money. Kentucky’s kicker went 3-for-4 on the night and his one miss was from 48 yards. If not for a UK timeout to avoid a delay of game penalty, MacGinnis would’ve been a perfect 4-for-4 on the evening, with that 48-yarder splitting the uprights before it was negated. He drilled his first attempt at the 48-yard bomb after Mark Stoops called a timeout; a timeout that led to a chewing of the officials’ asses on the sideline. Hashtag Angry Stoops.

— The young guys got some playing time. We saw the debut of Drew Barker, some carries by Sihiem King and an all-freshmen secondary late in the game. It was big to get those guys on the field for some experience against a good team like Mississippi State, and their snaps, though limited, will go a long way toward their development.

I’m a huge fan of King. Really liked what he showed us with his three carries for 31 yards.

Chris Westry picked off Dak Prescott. A lot of the talk leading up to the game was about Prescott’s almost 300 pass attempts without an interception. That streak came to a close last night when Kentucky’s Westry got up and took one away from the Bulldogs for his second career interception, both coming on the road in big games. We’ve only seen Westry for half of a season, but he’s already being talked about as a player who can be great, not just good, in Kentucky blue. Potentially one of the best to ever play corner at UK with what he’s shown us in his young career.

Boom Williams is really good.

— We almost had a football game going into the half. Then, Mississippi State scored two touchdowns in a minute and it was over. But there was some hope at one time, early in the game.

C.J. Conrad got involved. Fans begging to see more of the freshman tight end were given just that last night. Conrad caught six passes for 56 yards, UK’s second best numbers in both categories. Hope to see more of him in the future. He can really bust up defenses.

— The team’s attitude seems positive moving forward. Mark Stoops said, “I’ve felt a heck of a lot worse than I do right now,” following the 26-point loss. “There’s not one bit of panic. That’s a good football team that beat us.  We’ll go back to work, believe me.”

— And the biggest pro of them all: We don’t have to go back to Starkville for another two years. I hope everyone who went last night survived. And learned their lesson.


Oh, the cons. So many of them to list. Add the ones I don’t hit in the comments section.

Matt Elam did not fill Melvin Lewis’ shoes. No one expected Elam to be Lewis in his first career start, but the hope was he would play well. He did not play well, unfortunately. He did not do much of anything. Elam still has a long way to go before he’s ready to play in this league. Zero technique right now.

— Dak Prescott had all day in the pocket. Kentucky did not put any pressure on State’s quarterback. He was able to sit back and pick the defense apart all night long. The knock on Prescott is he can’t throw, but even I could’ve thrown for 300 yards with that much time to pick out a target.

— Starkville.

— The end of the first half sucked the life out of Big Blue Nation. Touched on this up top, but it can’t be said enough: the game ended in the final minutes of the first half. A 10-7 Kentucky lead turned into a 28-10 deficit, with 14 of those points coming in the span of one minute. Ball game.

— If there was any hope left in the second half, Ramsey Meyers’ personal foul demolished it. Kentucky had a first-and-goal from the three-yard line, down only two scores late in the third quarter. A touchdown would’ve made it a one possession game and the end zone was only one big push from the offensive line away. Then one of those offensive linemen, Ramsey Meyers, was flagged for a stupid, idiotic, inexcusable, what-the-hell-are-you-doing personal foul for swinging at a defenseless defender after the play. The penalty pushed the offense back to the 19-yard line and forced UK to settle for a field goal, rather than getting back in the game.

— Dorian Baker dropped another pass. At least it wasn’t in the end zone this time. And he wasn’t the only one dropping balls. I believe four of Towles’ first five incompletions were dropped passes.

— Have I mentioned how terrible Starkville is?

— Kentucky had no shot with three turnovers. We knew the Cats would need to win the turnover battle to have any chance at victory. Mississippi State won that battle, 3-1, and Kentucky isn’t a good enough team to win on the road with three turnovers.

— Jason Hatcher did not play. As is the case with Melvin Lewis, missing Jason Hatcher was detrimental to the defense and a big part of the problem with the nonexistent pass rush.

— The line of scrimmage was lost on both sides of the ball. It wasn’t just the D-line getting manhandled by the Bulldogs, Kentucky’s offensive line was pushed around all night, too. Towles faced constant pressure as State’s back line of defense dropped back and waited.

— Ramsey Meyers’ penalty was really, really bad. I can’t imagine what Mark Stoops had to say to him after the game. I bet he used several swear words.


Tennessee this week. Let’s put this behind us and get up for the Vols. Huge week ahead for the program and for the city of Lexington.

Go Cats.

Article written by Drew Franklin

I can recite every line from Forrest Gump, blindfolded. Follow me on Twitter: @DrewFranklinKSR

59 Comments for The Pros and Cons and more Cons from last night’s game

  1. Auburn QB
    7:06 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    I threw 3 INTs and we still beat Louisville. Ha ha.

    • Friend of the groom
      8:39 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      Got a bachelor party coming up. How much does it cost to rent Minardi Hall for the evening?

  2. The Rest of the story
    7:19 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    Looking at the Cons one must look no further than the sidelines and those who coach there. UK football is being run by coaches trying to figure out how to coach. Well to much inexperience there to give the talent on this team a chance win against teams with no more talent than they have. This is painful to think that a staff that can recruit the best players ever at UK cannot coach them to win and prepare them ahead of the game. As for next week UT will totally destroy the Cats and will not be a game worth watching by halftime. I predicted this game and cannot see any difference next week either as yet again UK nose dives the second half of the year in what will be their easiest SEC schedule they will likely ever have.

    • Willie Wilson Paducah
      7:58 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

      Do you agree that Matt Elam was as bad as the clown from Madisonville said? I saw him fighting off many double teams — a sign of respect from opposing squads, and a situation where him occupying two linemen SHOULD open up the opportunities for the other d linemen and linebackers.

  3. Lil jimmy
    7:27 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    Don’t see any pros at all.

    • Tommycatsfan
      7:41 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

      Pros: we are one game closer to the end of this season.

      Cons: we are only 5 days away from the beatdown from UT. But we are better so maybe they won’t beat us by 55 like they did last year. With all of our improvements and great strides, I think we can keep it to about 45 this year. If we keep improving at this rate, we should be able to tie them in about 10 years.

    • NavyCat
      9:00 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      Cons? How about the coaching, in general, the whole damn season long! Get 11 people on the field against Auburn. Don’t run the ball against Auburn when running out of time. Get your defense aligned so MSST QB doesn’t waltz in untouched for a TD, repeatedly. Don’t ice your own kicker, make adjustments at halftime so we’re not barely hanging on against ULL, SC and finish when you have the chance against FL and AUB and last, but certainly not least, don’t get down to EKU necessitating an improbable 4th quarter comeback. They can recruit but it remains to be seen if they can coach at the SEC level or not.

  4. Eshelby
    7:32 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    I posted this on an earlier thread, but i think it needs to be said again.

    Worst game of the year no doubt; a lot of people need to remember that prior to Stoops’ arrival, this type of ass kcking was the norm, now it’s an outlier. People also need to realize that we will likely lose the next two as both Tennessee and Georgia have exponentially more depth, talent, and experience than we do; that’ll change in the next couple years. After 9 games we will likely be 4-5 and our fans CANNOT quit on this team; the last 3 games are all “winnable” and we can finish 6-6 and even 7-5. Fill the stadium EVERY game let’s stay behind this young team. Going to a bowl is 15 extra practices and a HUGE need for this team’s continued development. GO BIG BLUE!!!

    PS: all you morons complaining about Stoops are the same idiots who wanred Rich brooks fired after he went 3-8 in his 3rd year. And brooks took over a better team than stoops did.

    • Willie Wilson Paducah
      8:02 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

      Yeah, and then Brooks went on to win all those SEC championships and those two national championships and those four New Year’s Day bowl games — oh, wait, no, that was not him.
      If you were satisfied by what Brooks did, that says more about you than about the guys you are throwing names like moron at.
      Rich was the B Team and there is no reason we can’t get a coach in here who can do it. Another Barnhart bomb.

    • Shelby
      8:30 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

      So, you’ll only be happy with SEC and national championships? Wow, takes a helluva lot to make you happy. I’ll be pretty damned pleased if we can just make a bowl game every year–let’s get to that level before we demand an SEC or national title huh bro? We’ve gotten better EVERY year stoops has been year; if you can’t see that, you’re blind.

    • Jesus Effin' Facepalming Christ
      9:42 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

      Wow… Pump the brakes there, Willie Wilson Paducah…. Good grief, you act like we’re Florida or Tennessee or LSU. Let’s just be happy we aren’t LAST. LIKE WE’VE BEEN FOR BASICALLY THE LAST 5 YEARS!!!

  5. BluKudzu
    7:35 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    Pros: nice looking uniforms
    Cons: the entire football program

  6. leon singleton
    7:36 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    Elam looked no worse then the others and Barker needs to start.

    • Willie Wilson Paducah
      8:04 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

      Barker’s QB rating versus State: 94
      Towle’s QB rating versus State: 88
      The numbers say you are correct — as do Pat’s three SEC losses and repeated collapses.

    • CATandMONKEY
      8:29 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

      Barker is a good QB. He earned his rating in garbage time against 2nd string players. Leon continues to be captain of the douche canoe.

    • 2020
      11:29 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      Barker may have played vs. Miss St’s 2nd string, but he had a 2nd string offensive line and 2nd string receivers.

  7. The Pros?
    7:36 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    1. Only 10 days before the first basketball game.
    2. Potentially Chris Westry and the place kicker.
    3. The football team allows you to practice booing for when Pitino (if still there) brings Louisville to Rupp Arena.

    No other Pros can be seen.

  8. The Rest of the story
    7:39 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    It is a shame that UK is only the third best team in the state, simply because of being out coached by lesser teams. Amazing how Jeff Brohm has that WKU playing at such a high level with third rate talent. No excuse for this and fans need to start examining where the real problem is. I love Mark Stoops but his team is being underprepared and poorly coached on every level. Where will that 6th win come from as I cannot see this team at this time beating anyone left other than that one non conference cupcake game. Even Vandy with a much better than the Cats can field will beat this team.

  9. UK Football being very good or great
    7:42 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    This will always be the exception versus the norm. We’ll all root for them to be better than they are, but this type of program will continue through generations. Going to games, teaching your children and grandchildren to be UK fans in general will always be the norm. However, expecting the football program to be SEC title contenders perennially is a whimsical dream.

  10. REALLY!!!!
    7:43 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    No wonder we are pathetic. Here is this article, only about UK football, and our fans still want to talk about little brother UofL.
    No wonder we are always the laughing stock of the SEC

    • UK Big Board Update
      9:00 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

      Get lost, cats paw. I’ll take 4-3 in the SEC over 3-4 in the ACC any day. You may want to look in the mirror before calling anyone or anything ‘pathetic’.

    • BigBlueTrue
      10:24 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

      Could not agree more! This is still a young team that is improving. I have been a UK football fan for over 40 years and Mark Stoops is the best coach we have had since a guy named Bryant coached here.

    • BluKudzu
      11:43 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

      Throwing the Bull Stuff card. Jerry Claiborne. Not even close.

  11. bb88888888
    7:43 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    I’ve learned my lesson. Took the missus to the game in Starkvegas as an anniversary gift. Hemmed in on every side by headache inducing cowbells, it felt so good (and silent) when we had the early lead. Sadly and miserably it didn’t stay that way. Watching no fight in our boys all night made for an early exit (my wife felt sorry for me). On the way I told her no more Miss. St. vs UK games for us. It usually ends with with her exhilarated and me miserable. Plus, nothing’s worse than a house divided. From now on for my own sanity and happiness and, for her, room to gloat and enjoy the wins, we are only going to UK or Miss. St. games where were can both trash the other team. Starkville is the worst, but the fans were awfully nice.

  12. Catlogic15
    7:50 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    Con: Jesse Palmer’s quote after Miss St’s two late first half drives: “It looked like Miss St was playing against air”.
    How embarrassing.

  13. Larry
    8:10 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    Drew you are right on with your assement of the game. I agree with you 100% Mark Stoops and his offensive coach I hope explained to Towels why he was taken out and Barker came in. If not they may have destroted the kid. He looked really hurt on the side lines. And before some ass hole L fan tries to start some crap, Kentucky can only win this year on the back of Patty Ice. He needs some blocking up front and for some guys to catch the damned ball. One more item. I forgot who wears #1 on the defense, but he should go home and play about 3 years more high school ball. He was flat out terrible. I will guarantee his ass is sore after watching how many times he just watched the play. I know Timmons wears #1 on offense, but really he doesn’t show up much either. To be as good as he was heralded. He looks like he always has a case of the red ass about something. Hopefully we do better with them damned orange sucking volunteers..

    • jim
      8:46 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

      If our only hopes are on the back of Towles, then we have no hope. 4 of 7 games no passing TD, more interceptions than touchdown. Good lord we are doomed.

  14. Nickname non-sense
    8:23 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    Patty Ice? Juice? And UK fans make fun of little brother fans because they call some of their players by nicknames…………..

    • CATandMONKEY
      8:36 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

      We make fun of little brother because, well , Louisville. I read every post on KSR and have seldom seen us solely making fun of them strictly for nicknames. There are so many reasons to make fun of UofL that nicknames is probably 27th on the list.

      UK beats UofL by at least 9 this year in Commonwealth.

  15. Sidney
    8:28 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    Drew, I’m glad you put Matt Elam as the top issue. Let’s be blunt: the coaching staff should be absolutely ashamed that they haven’t gotten that young man in better shape and taught him healthier nutritional habits–not only for this team, but just so he can live a healthy life. Few rational observers actually believe Elam is 360 lbs, as listed. He came here at 394, looks no smaller than he did when he arrived (I think he looks larger), and can’t play more than six snaps consecutively. Even if you DO believe his listed weight, that means his BMI is still comfortably in the morbidly obese range. Does that sound like an elite athlete to anyone?

    We have FIVE football strength and conditioning coaches at UK totaling nearly $600,000 in salary. Given the number of personnel, and the year and a half they have had to work with him, is it not reasonable to think someone would have come up with a nutritional, exercise, and monitoring plan that would put him on the path to success? It’s shameful, and their failure to honestly address this problem now has the team in a position where every remaining opponent will target this young man. I wish him luck, but the coaching failures have put him at a real disadvantage.

    • Jesus Effin' Facepalming Christ
      9:26 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

      Nice bow tie. Methinks you should keep all opinions about football coaching to yourself going forward.

    • inside info2
      9:45 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

      Elam came in to Lexington with BMOC disease. Hopefully Saturday night’s game will bring his massive ego down a notch or two. Although I don’t think he played quite as bad as Drew thinks. He was double-teamed on several plays.

    • KES
      5:58 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      good post Sidney, and the absolute truth

    • Yep
      8:35 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      Sidney is, of course, exactly right. And then there’s the other half of the problem he didn’t mention: technique. And when will this finally be addressed by the coaches also?

    • za
      9:49 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      Nailed it. I used to work at Jimmy Johns and Matt came in to eat once. It was his first time and he asked for the biggest sandwich we had, ate it, and came back for another. Kid you not.

  16. SinceStollField
    8:32 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    The Cats better get the offense cranked up because the Vols are coming to town with the same quarterback and running back who put 50 points and over 500 yards of offense on them last year. UK’s defense sure hasn’t improved (75th in total defense last year and 76th this year) since last November, as we all saw against MSU.

  17. Joe
    9:40 pm October 25, 2015 Permalink

    Being a UK football fan is like Charlie Brown kicking the football with Lucy holding. She always removes the ball after convincing Charlie she won’t.

    • Will
      9:50 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      Best post ever…thank you.

  18. Elmer Skaggs
    12:12 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

    UK football = “The Smelly Car” episode of Seinfield

    • whatwasthat
      1:34 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      And loserville, aka whoreville, l1cwhore and tard fans such as yourself just plain stink of cheap cognac, crack, bad BO and delusional dreams. Stay off big brothers site loser.

  19. Wake up Wildcat fans
    7:06 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

    Four dropped passes.
    Shame on Stoops.
    He abused his receivers when he came to UK and promised his receivers would catch the ball.
    Bite your tongue Stoops.
    Snake oil salesman, drink the blue Kool-Aid

    How to get rich: Bet against UK football. 11 1/2 points made me happy this past weekend!

  20. Towles' Man Bun
    8:31 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

    Pro: Stoops makes me laugh when he’s going off on the sidelines because he really does look like Melissa McCarthy with no hair.

    Cons: Melissa McCarthy could probably stand out their and achieve the same results as Stoops. Great recruiter, mediocre coach.

  21. StopHating
    8:53 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

    good knows nothing about football…he’s the best the program has had in years. Football isn’t something that can be turned around in three years. They could always go back to the Joker days. He’s done nothing but good…since when was the goal to be undefeated and win the National Championship?

    • StopHating
      8:55 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      Anyone who thinks Stoops leaving is good*

  22. Danny Thomas
    8:54 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

    I called this game last week and got blasted for being honest. Knew it would be a blow out. Need to schedule rougher games early on so everyone doesn’t get their hopes up every year. Towles laid another egg. Tell him a sack is not a good thing. Regardless of who starts against UT ,we’re getting waxed. Let Barker start and get a true test with the first team for a full game. We’ve seen what Towles has to offer, and it’s nothing at all. Not going anywhere with him starting. Wish they would give us the 12pm games, get the disappointment out of the way early in the day.

    • Idiot
      8:56 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      Your an idiot

    • Anonymous
      9:24 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      You sir are the WORST!

    • The Rest of the story
      9:33 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      Do not know if he is an idiot, but he is spot on about the UT game as the Cats will be an open door for their defense AND offense, another blowout and will not be a pretty game to watch. All this talent but poor QB play and mediocre coaching will continue to hinder the Cats.

    • Towles' Man Bun
      10:46 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      Good, start calling people names. Smart, gives you so much credibility in you defense of our fantastic football team. Actually, he is spot on and you can’t disprove his hypothesis. The truth hurts.

  23. BlueRedneck
    9:25 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

    I confess that I was one of the fans who was calling for UK to move on from Brooks during his third year when things looked so dismal. Anyone recall the 49-0 waxing that UK took from LSU back in 06? Then they turned it around, and had some very good seasons after that. Alas, all forward momentum for the program was lost when “the coach in waiting” cr*p happened with Joker. That hire set the program all the way back to the end of the Curry era. I agree that some of the coaching miscues have cost the team dearly this season, and we are dealing with a very young and inexperienced coaching staff, but I think we need to give them another year even after this one. If the Cats do not show steady progress midway through next season, then I think some hard questions need to be asked. Patience is a virtue that is in very short supply these days, and everyone wants the seemingly instant turnarounds that a few select schools seem to be having — but it rarely happens that way, especially when the talent level was as low as it was when Stoops was hired. I will continue to root for this team, all the while being realistic that we still have a LONG way to go. We will probably lose to UT because they simply have more talent at this stage (they ARE a football school, after all). The proof in the pudding will come in the games after that, IMO.

  24. BlueRedneck
    9:26 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

    Is there any friggin’ rhyme or reason to this “awaiting moderation crap” with this site? I just posted up a totally legitimate post with no profanity and nothing controversial, but yet I see some of the most inane posts get through compete with cuss words and all. Is this just some kind of bot doing this, or does a real human actually look at them? Totally ridiculous.

    • Companions
      10:26 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      Did you talk bad about Towles, sometimes if you talk bad about Jared’s boyfriend they won’t let you through.

    • What not to do
      10:33 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      Do not be critical of the AD. Questioning MB on here, gets you tossed like Dale Brown’s sport coat.

  25. fanman25
    10:32 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

    Until UK can find offensive and defensive lineman they have no shot of winning against the elite teams in the league. No pass rush!! None. Obviously we have to take chances on defense by bringing 6 or 7. If you get burned so be it. But try!! Mr. Elam needs to work on technique and quit standing straight up when the ball is snapped. Is this a disciplined team? It seems every game we have a late hit OB or some type of personal foul penalty that just kills us. We have zero margin for error. Take care of the ball and be disciplined on the football field please!!!!

  26. UKBlue1!
    10:38 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

    Looks like another 5-7 or best case 6-6 record. Vandy is going to be tough. We play them on the road and they look better. UofL is looking more like a loss.

    • Towles' Man Bun
      10:49 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      I got shouted down earlier in the year when I said Vandy was no guaranteed win. It was after they had played UGA tough. Wouldn’t surprise me to see a loss there and against Louisville unfortunately.

    • UKBlue1!
      11:07 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

      I expected more from the offense. I think our line has been out of sinc and our receivers have dropped some key passes that have hurt. I don’t blame Towles for what is out of his control.

  27. sluggo
    10:51 am October 26, 2015 Permalink

    Lets all remember this is stoops first head coaching job he is still learning also he is a good recruiter y’all need to give him a chance to learn also. We have gotten better each year but still a learning process when he took over we were at the bottom of the barrel no talent on this team at all. It takes more time to do anything at UK.

  28. Bluecat15
    12:26 pm October 26, 2015 Permalink

    Good thing Elam didn’t go to bama. Sabin would have sent him back. Looked lost to me and has no motor.