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The Pros and Cons and more Cons from last night’s game

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It’s Sunday evening and last night’s loss isn’t any less embarrassing. After taking some time to celebrate Halloween and sleep through the day’s NFL games, I’m ready to put a few words on the internet about Tennessee’s rout of Kentucky. Join me in listing the pros and the cons from the fourth loss of the season.

 

 

Pros

— Mikel Horton stepped in for Boom Williams and played well. It was Horton’s best game of his career. He carried the ball 14 times for 109 yards with an average of almost eight yards per touch. He’s the guy now.

— C.J. Johnson returned a fumble for a touchdown. That was pretty cool.

— The uniforms looked good?

Cons

Pretty much everything else. Let’s hit the major problems…

— Patrick Towles faced pressure all night long. Some of Towles’ mistakes were inexcusable and avoidable, but a lot of them were on his offensive line. He had no time in the pocket at all and was forced to make throws on the run or with the pass rush swarming him in the backfield. Keep that in mind when unloading your criticism and complaints on the quarterback position. His offensive line did him no favors last night. Poor guy was getting attacked from all angles on every single play. Not making excuses for his inconsistency, but it’s not going to get any better if the line doesn’t get him some protection.

— Speaking of the offensive line, there were far too many holding calls last night and most of them cost the Cats more than 10 yards each. Several lengthy plays were negated due to penalties, costing Kentucky another 60 or 70 yards you won’t find in the box score. Overall, UK was hit for 93 yards on nine penalties, but the damage was much worse than that. Line play has been atrocious in recent weeks.

— Kentucky is 2nd-and-10 U. Freddie Maggard and I shrugged our heads at each other in the press box with each new 2nd-and-10 UK faced. They’re getting nothing on first down and it’s putting them behind on second and third. Gotta get off to better starts.

— Third downs aren’t any better. Kentucky converted only two of its 13 third downs last night. Tennessee, on the other hand, converted over half of its 15 third down plays.

— On second thought, Kentucky is Dropped Pass U. CATCH THE DAMN BALL.

— Tackling must improve. Defenders are still whiffing on tackles and letting guys run through them. Everyone on the team has been guilty of this at some point. Teams are getting too many yards and picking up too many first downs when UK could’ve made a stop closer to the line of scrimmage and behind the first down marker. They’re giving up free yards by not wrapping up and bringing the ball carrier down.

— The scoreboard is a liar. It was a Halloween miracle that Kentucky was still in the game after one quarter. The fact that Kentucky held the lead at 14-10 in the second quarter is baffling. At no point was Kentucky the better of the two teams. Tennessee dominated throughout and the final score could’ve and should’ve been much, much worse. The 31-point loss is a blessing. We could’ve seen the Vols hang 70 on the Cats last night.

— And the worst aspect of last night’s beatdown: Mark Stoops is losing the fan base. Not everyone, but more and more people are really questioning if he is the man for Kentucky. As easy as it is to say he is a couple plays from beating Florida and Auburn, he is also a couple plays from losing to Louisiana Lafayette and Eastern Kentucky. Stoops just doesn’t have a good football team right now and the patience for results is running dry. It’s over midway through Year 3 and fans are still waiting for wins. Taking a loss like the one last night simply can’t happen at this point. He needs to put together some wins to get the excitement and optimism back in the program.

 

Last night sucked.

Article written by Drew Franklin

I can recite every line from Forrest Gump, blindfolded. Follow me on Twitter: @DrewFranklinKSR

61 Comments for The Pros and Cons and more Cons from last night’s game



  1. Chase
    7:05 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Good post. I am frustrated too. All these points are valid, especially the line. We need some linemen in the worst way. All this aside, if we lose to Georgia in a respectable fashion, then beat Charlotte, Vandy and the filthy cards, we will be 7-5. Win a bowl game and it’s 8-5. Can’t say I’d be disappointed with that at ALL!



    • The Real Truth
      8:57 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

      What about the last 3 games makes you think we are beating anyone else this season?



    • The Actual Truth
      9:49 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

      ^ Because I watched the first 5 games. Don’t be an idiot.



    • UKBlue1!
      9:17 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      I hope you are right. Right now it looks like 5-7 or best case 6-6. The “filthy cards” are making adjustments don’t look as beatable. Vandy is on the road and beat our signature win-Missouri. If we don’t bring our A game we will get beat.



  2. jch67
    7:06 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    I’d say we can stop worrying about someone coming and stealing Stoops away from us in the offseason – he needs to show something first.

    Marrow on the other hand, I’d be surprised if he’s around next fall.



  3. WeareBBN
    7:09 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Not worried about losing the fan base, with wins they will all be back on board. I am worried about losing some top recruits. I do feel we are getting better talent and our best players are young but in all honesty who would want to come here seeing what they have seen the last couple games and really all year. Our 4 wins are vs horrible teams and 2 of our losses we showed no heart and fight. I won’t be at the last 2 games, not worth the 7 hour round trip and hotel/food money for the product I am getting in return. Wish our problem was limited to one player or group but it is a whole, all positions and staff at this point. The only hope I am hanging onto is they are all young and new at this level so hope they learn and develop, just not seeing much in development right now from the players and staff. I will renew for season tix next year but will need to see something more than I have this year to keep” buying” in.



    • KYCATS13
      9:23 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      The team is young and inexperienced, and there is no depth. Dang, that sounds familiar for the past 62 years.



  4. Catlogic15
    7:11 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Watching at least two of our players yucking it up after bad plays tells me the coaches have no control over this team. Players can sense when coaches are confused and unsure.



    • Dave n Lex
      9:17 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

      I think everyone knows that D J Eliot couldn’t be a coordinator even for a Pop Warner team. I had hope that Dawson was going to be a good hire. Unfortunately, neither one is capable of successfully coaching in the SEC. What does that say about Stoops? Plain and simple, he won’t get it done because he can’t get it done. He has NO clue what it takes to COACH (and win) in the SEC. Nice try, but BBN needs a coach that does not admit after every loss that he got ‘out-coached’.



    • Redneck Cat Fan
      9:56 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

      Exactly.just thro money at it and the wins shoud come.I aslo agree that this team is even worst than the jokers worse teams,,,,this is on you mitch!!!!



    • KYCATS13
      9:25 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      We need to clean house on the coordinators. I’d say it will be required of Stoops for him to stick around. A head coach needs to be an office manager and be able to evaluate talent that being both players and staff. I think there are major issues on the “staff”.



  5. Boom
    7:13 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Another com is Boom is done for the year.



  6. FernCreekCat
    7:19 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Its pretty obvious Stoops has made some really bad hires where his position coaches are concerned and for that matter with his coordinators. Most all of these guys are in over their heads. Their players are not improving under their tutelage. Most obvious, are the two line coaches. This may rankle a few UK wheels, being that Schlarman is a UK letterman and all around good guy but this is business and he is not improving his players. He needs to shape them up or move on now. After last year’s draft, Brumbaugh’s meal ticke, Zadarius, left and so should he.

    Stoops has got to look at each and every staff member and see if their players are improving with their coaching and if not, get rid of them. Friendships are all well and good, but this is business. Find people with successful experience at the major college level and pay what it takes to get them.



    • Wise Guy
      8:44 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

      Agree with the coaching aspect. Position coaches are VERY valuable. I would also hire a dedicated special teams coach, say someone like Brooks had with Ortmeyer (sp?). Special teams under Brooks was a huge lift. Derrick Abney kept us in games himself on some occasions. THAT was coaching and getting kids in the right positions to make plays. Special teams by committee (as this team has) is NOT a good approach in my opinion.



    • The Actual Truth
      9:51 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

      But wait, I thought everyone on here said Shannon Dawson didn’t do anything at WVU???



  7. Blue
    7:19 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Stoops has no control over this team, players know that this staff is clueless. It’s just a runaway mess, and it’s not going to get any better, especially with next years schedule.



  8. Booger
    7:20 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    KSR’s really dedicated to sinking with the Towles ship, I guess.



  9. Nickname train has left the station
    7:26 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Patty Ice = Patty MELT (More worried about his hair flow than the game flow.)

    Boom = broken (hope he heals fast and sorry he got injured)



  10. Stoops aint got the O anymore
    7:30 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Remember the story of how his interview went? Said to Barnhart and I paraphrase, ‘you got the G and I got the O so let’s go.’

    Well there is no O, as in offense.

    Stoops appears to not know what is going on around him on offense or defense let alone certain game situations.



  11. Moto
    7:33 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Matt said last night after the game that some people in the media who were in the locker room after the game ended remarked that they were really shocked to see that for the most part the players didn’t seem to be that upset over the loss. I’d like to hear more about this because if true it’s very disheartening.



  12. Question
    7:36 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Is Boom done for the year? If it has been posted, I must have missed it.



  13. WC
    7:47 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    There are 11 offensive linemen that are Stoops recruits. Is help soon to come,and are they getting the coaching to be stout SEC linemen? I say we need new offensive line coach!! NOW



    • Brian
      5:56 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      He should have kept Mike Summers on his staff. He’s now doing a great job at UF. Plus, he’s Joe B Hall’s son-in-law! He is a great offensive line coach.



  14. GatorCat
    7:55 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Everybody take your rose-colored glasses off. These next two weeks will tell if Stoops is the man or not. He’s on the edge of losing the locker room and the fan base (aka empty seats). We will lose to UGA for sure if same game plan is used that lost to weak AU, was crushed by MSU and laid to waste by UT. So, what’s there to lose??? Stoops you make $3.5m per year. Rip a new asshole in the locker room. Give anyone even wanting a piece of the action key playing time. Drop a pass, sit your ass down. Get a soccer player to punt. Split Towles/Horton traditional sets with Kemp/King wildcat sets. If another defensive player looks to the sideline with his hands up asking what do I do, fire DJ Elliot immediately and take on DC yourself. Stoops, you seem a nice, caring guy…….but you need to throw the shit into the fan before it is you that gets thrown. Even Joker, a nice guy and terrible HC, beat UT……..with a frickin’ WR at QB. What do you have to lose???



  15. Digger phelps
    8:05 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Listen To me..listen to me…this has nothing to do with talent! Florida sucked the last couple years and are now suddenly a powerhouse with the exact same players. Michigan went from sucking last year to great this year with the same talent. It’s about coaching…period and end of story. This school has produced SEVERAL of the best NFL players in the game right now. A few great players doesn’t make a team but it sure hell should be enough to make a college school somewhat competitive against the likes of Tennessee or Eastern if they were coached worth a nickel.



  16. just saying
    8:15 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    I dont mean to ride the “jump on Stoops” bandwagon, but the honest truth is in the preseason Stoops said “we have the talent to compete, and we are a much better team than last year”. Shannon Dawson said “I have never coached a team with as much talent on offense as this one”. Yet as much as we are a “few plays away” from being 6-2, we are just the same distance from being 0-8. We let a mediocre ULM almost beat us, and forced OT. Even a terrible USC team that fired their coach midseason (yes I know he “stepped down”) made us look bad in the second half.

    Its one thing when the coach says we are young and were learning and we need time, when games like this happen, it can be accepted as growing pains in a tough league, but when your coaches tell you how good the team is, and how much better we will be, and how much talent we have, then go out and can tackle, cant pass, and have absolutely no offensive scheme that makes even the most naive kool-aid drinking UK fan scratch their head, knowing what we were told is not what we are seeing



  17. BBN
    8:26 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Do we get a partial refund on season tickets? Each year is a different marketing phrase campaign. How about they just shut up and start winning. Elliott and Schlarman bye – in over your head so time to go. Best thing about last night – leaving at halftime, which meant I stayed about five minutes longer than the team.



    • GatorCat
      8:48 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

      Stoops made mistake or got bad advice in not retaining Mike Summers as OL coach. He’s good and his UK roots run deep (Lex native and Joe B’s son-in-law). This group under Scharlman could not block my mother (rest her soul).



  18. wildcat502
    8:43 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Every team starts and ends with the “big uglies” and thats hurting us right now. We have 3 4 star offensive linemen coming in next season, but it will be at least another year before they play a significant row. There are only a couple of dozen “elite” DT that come out of high school every year and the top teams get them. So teams like Kentucky will have to reach out to Juco`s to fill these voids.

    I just want a team thats willing to play with heart and give us every ounce of energy they have. I dont want to see players coming off the field laughing, like Baker was after a horrible 3rd and 25 pass. Losing by 31 isn`t a laughing matter to us, as fans. They need to understand that hitting another player, in high school, will bring that player down. But in college, you have to wrap a player in order to get a tackle.

    Tennessee was one of the top teams, in the country, on giving up big plays. How many did we have?? We are having offensive line issue`s, so why dont we play with a fullback on every play. He could be used as an extra blocker and we only lose 1 wideout. We dont have time to look for 4 or 5 so why play that many?? We need that extra blocker.



    • Wise Guy
      8:49 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

      We DID play with an extra blocker in the 4th quarter. Watch and you will see a few plays where TN rushed THREE and we had 5 linemen, 2 blocking backs and the QB in the box. That means we’re running 3 out against their 8!!! My contention is NOT that the play calling is suspect but that we have a QB that can’t get us out of the wrong play based on defensive alignment. Towles has a strong arm and beautiful flowing hair but I haven’t been impressed with his reads of the defense this year.



    • Milzy
      9:48 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

      Wait a second, wiseguy you actually watched the 4th quarter???? Wow, you deserve a tolerence medal for subjecting yourself to 4 quarters of that. We left after the 100 yard kick return.



  19. BluKudzu
    9:12 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Stoops, do your job, if not, then Barnhart, do yours.
    Stop this humiliation.



    • DerbyDemon
      9:26 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

      Amen!



  20. Bruh
    9:26 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Coach stoops and the rest of the coaching staff needs to get their shit together. It’s as simple as that.



  21. inside info2
    9:47 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Stoops is pretty distracted. Let’s just say that he and Gillispie would get along well. He needs to focus on what he is paid to focus on and not extra curricular activities.



    • TrollDar
      9:54 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

      These are unsubstantiated rumors. Stop.



  22. Fred
    10:03 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    Eight (!) home games and not having to play conference games against Alabama, Arkansas,LSU,Ole Miss or Texas A&M. This years schedule was setup for success. Can you imagine playing some of those other teams?



  23. Captain Obvious
    10:08 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    It would be nice if our football program was as great as our historically dominant basketball program.



  24. kentuckyrld
    11:54 pm November 1, 2015 Permalink

    People are not just questioning whether or not Stoops is the man for the job. They are asking a more fundamental question in whether or not Stoops can actually coach. Coaching is a lot more than just recruiting. He has to hire the right staff and he has to make good in game decisions. Most of all at Kentucky he needs to win the games he should win and at least be competitive in the ones he might not win. Right now there is no competitive spirit and for that you can only blame the coach. It has been almost 3 years. Seems to me we should be seeing a better product by now. Do we have to suffer through this kind of team for another two years before we see a change?



    • Wildcatwill
      7:48 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      Bingo Kentuckyrld….



  25. Ksrhasjumpedtheshark
    12:03 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

    Lol you all said this season was made for wins now you’ve changed your toon..

    U.K. Football will always suck just like the writing on this blog run by children who never grew up

    Tyler put Mrs because she got married and thinks men actuall find her attractive, which they don’t!

    She looks like that UGA mascot



    • Ha!
      12:09 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      “Toon”?

      Thats that Louisville education at work!! 😉

      Also, whores.

      #AlsoWhores
      #LittleBrothel



    • Nope
      12:18 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      I think he is calling KSR childish… If you use your brain there is a message of child like behavior so ‘toon’ as in cartoon makes since. I’m sure you didn’t get past third grade with out mammas help so I’ll forgive you not understanding gramatic nuances



    • Ha!
      12:52 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      “Makes since”? LOL. Care to explain that one?

      ‘Without’ and ‘childlike’ are one word.

      And “gramatic” isn’t a word. 😉

      Nice try troll. And seriously, id you just refer to yourself as “he”? Its obvious Nope is the same loser as Ksrhasjumpedtheshark because I notice subtle punctuation nuances like lack of putting periods at the end of your sentences. 😉

      And you tried to call ME out on a lack of education?? Hahahahahahalololololololol!!!
      Dipshit.

      Get a life, and head on back to the Tard Chronicle to worry about who your next basketball coach is going to be.

      #L1CWHORE
      #TheEntireCountryIsDisgustedWithYourGhettoProgram
      #UniversityOfSleaze



    • Ha!
      3:57 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      And yes I am a proud plus-size gal



    • Ok
      9:02 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      Ha!. I don’t agree with what this person is saying in the least. However, I can’t stand people like yourself either. This is a blog comment section that allows someone to write down what’s on their mind. I hate the ‘Grammar Police’! And your words are very hateful and show what kind of person you are. next time you should just ignore a stupid comment and not get yourself dirty by making mean, silly comments. If this person is a Louisville fan who cares. Your insinuation that all U of L fans are: ‘Whores” or sleazy is insulting to fellow Kentuckians and as a U of K fan I wish you’d find another team to cheer for!

      Good Day!

      I said Good Day!



  26. Chris in Lexington
    12:23 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

    Marvin Lewis is the head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals, a position he has held since 2003. He is the 2nd longest tenured head coach in the NFL behind New England Patriots head Coach Bill Belichick. Hey, Coach Bill Belichick won 4 Super Bowls as the head coach of the the New England Patriots.

    The Cincinatti Bengals are currently undefeated and 7-0 this season. It’s the first time in Bengal history that the Bengals started a season off at 7-0….Maybe more good things are coming for them.

    Final thought. As a UK football fan, we need to be patient like the Bengal Fans.



    • Ha!
      3:42 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      GBB



    • Chris from Richmond
      4:25 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      Give me a break. One year from now, two years from now, or three years from now, this clown will be getting blown out by average teams. Mitch has a historic opportunity to hire the next great coach while he is still young, but he doesn’t have the balls



    • rockatao
      5:43 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      Yes, O Next Great Coach, come to UK , the graveyard of football coaches. Who was the last head football coach to leave UK and go on to bigger and better things? Probably Blanton Collier, sixty years ago. Great coaches aren’t lining up at the door trying to come to UK.



    • Wildcatwill
      7:44 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      If we are patient we will end up where we were 6 years after Bill Curry. Mark Stoops is leaning heavily in that direction.
      He lets Neil Brown bring is OLine Coach, WR Coach and Running backs Coach all who need to be replaced.
      He lets DJ Elliot run his defense while supposedly he as a defensive genius will oversee it but after 3 years we still can’t stop anyone or get the right schemes in place.
      He hires a OC that has never called an offense to learn in the SEC, which is working just wonderful.
      ULL ran the ball down our throats and we were lucky to win. EKU was almost the beginning of the end which MSU and UT now look like.
      I like others have invested to much time 35 years and money only to watch Mitch(I was gonna get the tuna here)Barnhardt create this mess.
      Stoops is lost and needs to clean house to get competent help to try and get this fixed and fixed quick else all recruiting and momentum will be lost. I mean our Special Teams is just awesome this year because we don’t need a coach.
      Sorry for the rambling but this s#$t is getting old.



    • Jarvis Redwine
      7:50 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      Why not consider bringing in Papa Brooks (or someone like that) as a consultant?



  27. Jarvis Redwine
    7:46 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

    UK is 4-4 with 3 winnable games left on the schedule. Win 2 out of 3 and we are right where we were projected to be preseason. Chill. This is a 5 year process. 6-6 with a bowl game is progress. Changes do need to be made (assistant coaches/schemes/etc.) but the sky is not falling.



    • Wildcatwill
      7:53 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      You are correct but the changes have to be made (new coordinators and some coaches). If in the offseason it is the same ole, same ole with no changes then were in trouble.



  28. JD
    8:05 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

    Why are people worried?? If someone else wants to hire Stoops… by all means, take him! If not, we will keep him and continue to improve year after year (at a snails pace).



    • Jarvis Redwine
      8:16 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      I’ll take continuous improvement, even if it is at a snail’s pace. That likely means 7 wins next season with an 8 win season after that.



    • Blue
      9:47 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

      That’s the problem, we aren’t improving. Even at a snail’s pace, and with next years schedule, unless something drastic changes, it’s going to be worse.



  29. Dieter
    10:38 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

    We need to get through this next game and into the final 3 game stretch. That is where our season will be measured. We were always expecting a 6 or 7 win season and both those scenarios are very much on the table, though not guaranteed by any means. 7 wins would be a successful season, plain and simple. Not worried about next year. No point in talking about it at this point. We don’t know what kind of improvement may or may not be made by this team the rest of this year that could affect perceptions of next season. Likewise, we don’t know anything about anyone else next season either. Just too early to get too bogged down in schedule discussion for next season, in my opinion.



  30. JR
    10:46 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

    Drop the alt jerseys. I dont care if they wear green polka dots and rainbow colored shoes, start winning. No more moral victories.



  31. Dustin
    11:09 am November 2, 2015 Permalink

    I’d prefer matte black helmets to the chrome ones. They can wear tutu’s and ballet shoes for all I care if they just start winning!!!



  32. TD
    5:16 pm November 2, 2015 Permalink

    What I don’t understand is why UK didn’t try something different on offense. Few play action passes to slow down the rush, leaving Towles standing in the pocket like a sitting duck. I didn’t see the whole game, but how many screen passes did they try? We could have used a dual threat QB that could move outside the pocket, or at least try some rollouts or bootlegs with misdirection. The game plan was terrible without any kind of back-up when things did not work out. Of course, it would really help if they could tackle better, too. Who teaches these kids to leave their feet, or tackle around the shoulders?