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REPORT: Shannon Dawson will not return next season

BREAKING NEWS! According to WKYT, Shannon Dawson will NOT return as Kentucky’s offensive coordinator next season.

If you’ve been listening to this morning’s show, you heard Matt say he’s been hearing something similar, but was waiting on final confirmation. A source just confirmed it to WKYT minutes ago.

Here we go…

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74 Comments for REPORT: Shannon Dawson will not return next season

  1. ghostofrupp79
    11:29 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    Not suprised, wish him the best but we need to have a Lincoln Riley type OC.

  2. Poppschmidty
    11:30 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    Truly shocking, I believed he deserved 1 more year. Hopefully if there’s a big name we can attract something. Air Raid may not be the case because of our receivers. Screw it…let’s hire Hal Mumme as our O.C.!!

  3. inside info2
    11:34 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    This is a shock to me. Another step back for the offense next year trying to learn the 3rd scheme in as many years. I would’ve given him one more year. But he was not a good hire to begin with.

    Stoops, please find an OC with some experience, preferably some former HC to help you until you know what you are doing.

    • ClutchCargo
      11:50 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

      If you realize he was a bad hire to begin with, why would you waste another year? That makes zero sense.

    • The Rest of the story
      12:01 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      Your typical UK fan Clutch who makes no sense of the obvious

    • Musehobo
      1:00 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      I understand what he’s saying, even if I disagree. He’s saying if you give him another year to adjust, he may work out. But he was a bad hire because he wasn’t calling plays at WV. I understand that there’s a lot more to being an OC than just calling plays. But if you’re going to be doing it on this level, it would have helped if he had been doing it at WV too.

      Now where I disagree with the OP is that it is time to let him go. I really hate that our guys may have to adjust to another system again. But I think we need better play calls in-game.

      And for god’s sake, please get a special teams coach.

    • ClutchCargo
      1:00 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      ^ Huh?

    • inside info2
      1:05 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      What Musehobo said. Except that having 3 different OCs in 3 years and the guys learning 3 different systems is not good for anybody. It would have been better to leave him in place just for appearances. If I am looking for a new job, UK would be lower on my list because of the instability at the OC position. But I may be overthinking it. We have tons of issues that would keep UK lower on people’s list.

  4. bigblueforever
    11:35 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    Now get rid of Elliott.

  5. secrick
    11:35 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    How about Jared Lorenzo, he loves Ky and he thinks he knows whats going on so lets let him prove it. HIRE JARED.

    • grandepdre
      11:51 am December 17, 2015 Permalink


    • The Rest of the story
      12:02 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      Another idiot makes his name

    • chimichanga
      12:39 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      We all love Jared around here, but hiring someone with inadequate coaching experience is kinda what got us in this situation in the first place.

    • kycats13
      1:05 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      I could certainly live with Jared at the wheel. I think his feel for the game and background would be the experience necessary. Dawson had no feel for the game, vision for what he wanted to do, apparently didn’t see a need for situational planning, on and on, etc…. . Some coaches have it and some don’t. I think Jared would be a player’s coach and would not have any issues in calling them out when they didn’t perform.

  6. @BallBlog_Chad
    11:37 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    we’ll have our 4th OC in 5 years, good grief … need a good hire here

  7. Okay, so who are the OC candidates? Hopefully it’s someone who can teach the WR to hang on to the ball.

    • Does anyone remember any of the names that were tossed about last year besides Dawson and Riley?

    • ghostofrupp79
      11:45 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

      James Coley?

    • @BallBlog_Chad
      11:49 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

      yep, besides Dawson, Riley and Coley there was Tim Beck, Chris Hatcher, Eddie Gran and Spurrier Jr.

    • buzzard
      11:59 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

      How ’bout The O’l Ball Coach….Spurrier Sr.

    • Beck ain’t leaving Ohio State for UK, so we can forget that (unless there were some reason he was unhappy there, politics or personal stuff or whatever). The problem with Hatcher is he would leave as soon as a HC job that he might want opens up, and like I said in comment # 6i, we need stability!

      A quick Google search shows that Coley says he would like to work for Mark Richt, but if that doesn’t pan out, I would love to have him.

  8. aj007
    11:38 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    Not shocked. I really wish we had gotten Riley. Now if Elliot stays it’ll be a mistake but at least we made the correct move so far.

  9. secrick
    11:38 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    I would like to be able to see or read what Matt , KSR and some of the post on here last year had to say when we heard he was going to be or new OC .

    • Just Google a phrase like “KSR Shannon Dawson new offensive coordinator” along with writer’s names and you’ll probably find some of those posts.

    • Booby Petrino
      11:44 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

      Idk why you would care. I’m sure they embraced him with optimism. He was already hired so no need for KSR to post about what an awful hire it was and how we are doomed. KSR has no say on who is hired, so instead of badmouthing every decision, they typically post optimism and hope it pans out.

  10. Citronaut08
    11:39 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    Interesting timing for sure, especially being on the end of the coaching carousel. Makes one think that with Brian Schottenheimer not coaching the UGA Bowl Game this could be a name that comes up.

    • GeorgiaBlue
      12:21 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      If you want to drive the final nail in the Stoops coffin, there would be no better way than to follow Dawson up with Schottenheimer.

    • Citronaut08
      1:46 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      I agree, but it is something to be on the lookout for. And Schotty not coaching the bowl game is very interesting timing.

  11. Catsby80
    11:47 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    any chance we could pry the OC away from Texas Tech? Their offense was lightning in a bottle.

    • That might be more Kliff Kingsbury, and if so, we might be getting another OC who didn’t actually call the plays, just like Dawson at WVU. Kingsbury played for Mike Leach at Tech and was an assistant at Houston before getting that job. If you’ll remember, he was still at Houston and was supposedly a candidate for the UK HC job when Stoops got it.

    • Catsby80
      11:58 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

      definitely a good point. we certainly do not need another Offensive Coordinator in name only. TCU has 2 co-offensive coordinators. Perhaps one of them could be pried away… Regardless, as many have already said, Stoops has to hit a home run here.

  12. Sentient Third Eye
    11:48 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    Maybe it’s time for Tony Franklin and UK to make amends?

  13. Stephen
    11:48 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    I don’t know how we can assume this is official until we see Alan Cutler chasing him out of the building for a final interview.

  14. UKinIN
    11:48 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    Also means a new QB coach.

  15. Sentient Third Eye
    11:49 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    The problem is, last year Stoops was a rising coach in need of a new OC to replace a guy who got a head coaching job. Now he’s a coach on the hot seat desperate to replace a guy who didn’t work out.

  16. grandepdre
    11:50 am December 17, 2015 Permalink


  17. CATandMONKEY
    11:52 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    For stability reasons I was willing to give Dawson another year but am not particularly saddened by this news.

  18. Long Dong Silver
    11:55 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    Grove Street Party!!!!

  19. BluKudzu
    11:56 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    First step. The difficult decisions are coming, hope they are going in the right direction. Stoops needs them.
    I knew this guy was a short timer at OC. I am sure he knows more about football than we will ever know. Or at least that what so many experts on here have said on numerous occasions. He was a bad fit from the beginning. Wish him well, he was well compensated, for his only year.
    Defense has to be next.

  20. wildcat502
    11:58 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

    I`m wondering if this was mutual. Firing Dawson is surprising considering our offensive line and dropped pass issue`s. But this isnt good going into next season, having to learn a new offensive language and scheme. To win we need stability in our coaches and 3 offensive coordinators in 3 years isnt good.
    Lets hope we get a big name, 1 with experience where Stoops can and over the reigns and just worry about being a head coach.
    After the Forrest comments about them not practicing for Jackson, I`ll be surprised if Elliott remains.

    • wildcat502
      11:59 am December 17, 2015 Permalink

      Hand over the reigns………………….typo

  21. winagain1
    12:00 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

    Hal Mumme?? I would buy a ticket to see that

  22. thomasd
    12:01 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

    What about Joker? Wouldn’t mind having him back as OC, but the fans were pretty harsh toward him as HC.

    • The Rest of the story
      12:07 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      OMG are you the biggest idiot on here ?

    • He made some questionable calls as OC too though. Not giving the ball to Randall Cobb inside the 5 against Miss. St. was a glaring mistake. Rich Brooks defended him on the radio saying “You should see the amount of bruises on Cobb’s body after a game”, but he knew that decision was indefensible and that he was just taking up for his OC.

    • chimichanga
      1:02 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      He was a great position coach. Not so sure about OC. Definitely wouldn’t help us in recruiting.

    • trojancam08
      2:47 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      Joker was a helluva OC! Yal are crazy, go look at the team’s offensive stats and production while he was OC….I’ll wait.

    • Bluecreeker
      5:29 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      @Trojancam – I’ll stop at the W/L column. He was horrible as a OC, as a HC, as a recruiter, and as a Florida Caoch as well.
      Maybe he has found his groove as a position coach with the Browns……but we never, ever, ever, necer want him back here. Paw Paw had a bit of momentum going, a good hire would have us where we want to be today. Alas Barnfart screwed the pooch and here we are. I can tell you this however, Stoops is the man if we can keep him here.

    • WildcatCam
      12:54 pm December 18, 2015 Permalink

      @bluecreeker Did you forget about the offense while he was OC from 05-09? Helloooo, With Andre Woodson leading the offense, their were several SEC records broken. Also, Mike Harline wasn’t too shabby leading the offense either. You can’t be serious.

  23. 2thepoint
    12:03 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

    Well, people are getting what they demanded, now the 2nd guessing of that decision begins.

    As to the firing do we also remember Barnhart being castigated for not doing anything in regard to the situation? I remember him saying he would meet with Stoops to ask questions. I think we have received an answer and he did it diplomatically.

  24. Nick
    12:04 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

    I am definitely not sad about Dawson leaving. After all of the WTF moments in games then the poor excuses after always left a sour taste in my mouth.

  25. Leroys Bird
    12:05 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

    What about hiring Spurrier as Associate Head Coach/Offensive Coordinator, aren’t they good friends?

    • Nick
      12:11 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      I feel like egos would enter the picture.

    • kycats13
      12:35 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      Would love to see this… if they could make it work. Maybe bring in some young gun to groom under Spurrier as well.

  26. Laker Cat 18
    12:06 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

    Kendal Briles — Baylor. Would be my first pick. Doubt we could afford him though.

    Doug Meacham — TCU. I only say this because he is a Co-OC. I think that gives us an outside shot.

    Major Applewhite — Houston. Former Texas QB. Young, but has the experience as well. We could afford him.

    All three put up a lot of points. We have to get out of this Air-Raid nonsense. It’s great, but it’s overrated these days.

    • Mathlete
      12:11 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      Major Applewhite would be an awesome pick, I watched their game against a very good Navy defense and they were absolutely unstoppable. Their quality of players is about as high as what we’re working with at UK too, so we know he could work with what we’ve already got in place.

    • Laker Cat 18
      12:39 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      I agree. At this point, we have to target OC’s that (1) we can afford and (2) who are willing to leave their current situation. I can’t help but think that we put our eggs in the mid-major basket. Bowling Green, Memphis, Houston, Southern Miss, and even WKU are among the top total offenses in the nation. Out of those, Applewhite has to be the choice in my opinion. We’re not going to pull in an Oregon, Clemson, Texas Tech-type OC to Kentucky.

    • GeorgiaBlue
      2:30 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      i would love to see Applewhite come in. He was a not a super-athletic quaterback at Texas but he was successful because he understood the game. He has proven that as a coach at UH has well. Would be a good addition to the staff who may just jump at the chance to get into the SEC.

  27. The Rest of the story
    12:09 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

    Dawson’s career ended at 1st and goal on the one against Vandy.

  28. BP35
    12:15 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

    I guess the reports were true about Stoops “micro-managing” his OCs….second one he’s ran off. These guys were paid a lot of money…..he needs to let them do their job. Barker quit after the Vandy game due to Stoops overriding Dawson’s decision to leave him in. Thankfully, they convinced him to stay by promising him the Charlotte game. Hopefully, this is a wake-up call for him……hopefully.

    • Mathlete
      12:29 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      Brown left for a head coaching job at his alma mater, hard to argue with his decision to leave. Not like Stoops ran him off, Brown was successful and as a result he was offered a promotion elsewhere and took it.

      Dawson showed he wasn’t a good fit for the job early on this season. Stoops probably didn’t feel comfortable letting him run the offense after the Florida game where we managed a whopping ZERO touchdowns and 241 yards, Dawson was definitely gone no matter what after the EKU debacle though.

    • BP35
      1:24 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      I don’t think Stoops “ran them off”…..I just was told he made it very easy for both of them to leave by overriding their decisions and questioning/changing their play-calling.

    • Brown’s alma mater is UK. Troy is where he had his first OC job after Tony Franklin left (he was a position coach under Franklin before that).

    • Mathlete
      1:43 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      Yep, you’re right. My bad.

  29. Pete
    12:24 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

    Dawson was one of the few bright spots on this staff. Bottom line is this team lacks discipline and accountability. They could have 100 5-star players, but without discipline we’re toast. It starts at the top and the changes haven’t happened. As Calipari said back in 2013, “energy and effort trumps talent.” This team just expects the wins to come because they have “talent.” We all see how well that’s working out. We’ll be having these same conversations until the team’s culture changes.

  30. kycats13
    12:29 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

    Would love to see us bring in an OC that likes dual threat QBs and run the type of offense that kills us on a yearly basis. Let’s win college games and forget about grooming QBs for the NFL.

  31. secrick
    1:17 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

    We have an OC , DC, LINEBACKERS COACH, QUARTERBACK COACH, SPECIAL TEAMS COACH,RUNNING BACK COACH, what does the HEAD COACH really do? I know nothing about football and was just asking.

    • kycats13
      1:33 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      Just like the CEO of a business, the Old Ball Coach manages the program, providing the vision, organization, strategic plan, and makes the critical decisions when necessary. If they do it correctly they let the assistant coaches carry out the plan with oversight.

  32. BigCountry
    1:58 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

    This is the best move we could’ve made honestly. You can’t build a house on a shaky foundation, I don’t care how many times you have to pour it and tear it out to get it right. I do realize that this will be the 3rd OC in as many seasons…which is exactly why it’s so imperative to get it right this time. Don’t just hire the first person interviewed and don’t interview anyone without experience and a proven track record of developing QB’s. If we expect to compete in the SEC, our coordinators positions can’t be jobs that people use as a stepping stone, to get experience, or to learn on the job. Open up the wallet and throw down whatever it takes to get the right man for the job. The BBN and the players deserve it.

  33. The Rest of the story
    2:03 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

    How bout Jeff Brohm as OC he seems to know what an offense needs to do, but I am sure the UK idiots would scream and holler if that happened. Also he is a head coach and going to a lesser program may not be in his plans.

    • UK Big Board Update
      11:13 pm December 17, 2015 Permalink

      Still trolling….