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Kentucky May End up in a Bowl Game, Win or Lose on Saturday


Every year the Bowl situation is confusing and isn’t sorted out until a mad scramble over the last few days. But this year, the confusion is even more intense. There are currently 40 Bowl games scheduled, which means that 80 teams have to be eligible. At this moment, only 71 teams have the 6 wins necessary to be eligible. There are currently 13 teams (of which Kentucky is one) that have 5 wins and thus the chance to get bowl eligible next week (you can read more about it here). If one looks at the schedule, it becomes clear that is unlikely 9 of those 13 will win, meaning that at least a few 5 win teams are going to be headed to a Bowl game. This scenario has been contemplated by the NCAA and thus they instituted a provision that stated that if there weren’t enough teams eligible for a Bowl game at 6 wins, any team with 5 wins that is in the top 5 nationwide in APR score, would be eligible as well. The problem is that as of this moment, no such team exists. Thus some amount of 5 win teams are likely to be bowl eligible, and there exists no obvious criteria to determine who they will be.

So what does this all mean for Kentucky you may be asking? Well first it means that a Bowl game can still happen with a loss…and THAT MATTERS. Even if you don’t think Kentucky would “deserve” to make a Bowl, the 20 extra practices and recruiting help means you take it no matter what. So how will this happen? Let’s make it simple:

BEAT LOUISVILLE: If Kentucky beats Louisville, they become bowl eligible and will be slotted into one of the three bottom places for SEC Bowls…at this moment that would mean the Liberty Bowl in Memphis, Birmingham Bowl or Independence Bowl in Shreveport. As of this moment, Auburn and Arkansas both have six wins…Auburn plays Alabama this week so they won’t win another. Arkansas plays Missouri at home, a game it likely wins. Thus the Hogs will probably get the top slot of these three bowls, meaning they go to the Liberty. UK beats Louisville and thus the Cats and Auburn are divided between the other two. Since The Birmingham Bowl is in Alabama and thus Auburn would sell tickets, but likely do little for tourism AND because the Independence Bowl is on the same day as the UK-UL Basketball game…my guess is Kentucky would be sent to Birmingham, likely to play Memphis or Houston. Get your Legion Field Funk-protective clothing ready.

LOSE TO LOUISVILLE: This is much more complicated. The NCAA is meeting tomorrow to decide how they will determine which 5 win teams get to go to a bowl. If its APR score, Kentucky is screwed. Of the 13 teams with 5 wins, we are 12th on the list…so it is a no-go. But I can’t imagine the NCAA is going to rely on that alone…so let’s see who these 5 win teams are:

Tulsa (5-6) at Tulane (3-8)
Virginia Tech (5-6) at Virginia (4-7)
Iowa (11-0) at Nebraska (5-6)
Indiana (5-6) at Purdue (2-9)
Northwestern (9-2) at Illinois (5-6)
Wisconsin (8-3) at Minnesota (5-6)
Florida Atlantic (2-9) at Old Dominion (5-6)
UMass (2-9) at Buffalo (5-6)
Washington State (8-3) at Washington (5-6)
Louisville (6-5) at Kentucky (5-6)
Missouri (5-6) at Arkansas (6-5)
Boise State (7-4) at San Jose State (5-6)

So looking at those, who is likely to win. I will give a win to Tulsa, Va Tech (Beamer’s last game), Indiana, Old Dominion and Buffalo. That is 5. Others could win, but those seem most likely. In addition, Texas and Kansas State both have 4 wins and are likely to win one more to get to 5. So this would be the group to select from…

San Jose State
Kansas State

4 of those 9 teams would go. Texas and Nebraska are going…too big programs not to. But after that, I think Kentucky is a pretty solid pick. The fan travel, plus the SEC name means that bowls that could never sniff a SEC team now get a chance to have one. Throw in the fact that one of the Bowls (the Independence) would presumably not have a SEC representative and slotting UK there would make sense. Plus, the Bowl in Detroit (scheduled for Dec 28) currently doesn’t have any team projected to be eligible (you can see the projections here). Kentucky being so close to Detroit would seem to only make sense.

Thus depending on (a) what the NCAA decides tomorrow the criteria for 5 win teams will be and (b) whether any of the above 5 win teams pull an upset next week, Kentucky could end up in a Bowl game, whether they beat Louisville or not.

But let’s just beat them anyway…Petrino is the worst.

Article written by Matt Jones

29 Comments for Kentucky May End up in a Bowl Game, Win or Lose on Saturday

  1. Leroy Bird - 00
    8:57 pm November 22, 2015 Permalink

    This is the wildest set of circumstances – and throw me in the camp that doesn’t give a damn how we get to a bowl, i’ll watch and possibly go.

    I’m with you though – beat L’ville and make it a moot issue.

    • Kat 308
      9:17 pm November 22, 2015 Permalink

      I Agree with this guy

    • cats paw
      11:09 pm November 22, 2015 Permalink

      Well by all means…..lets just take a couple million and create our own bowl game to be in every year so we can continue to feel good about this pathetic coach and Homer fans. And everyone gets a participation trophy of course!

    • The Rest of the story
      11:37 pm November 22, 2015 Permalink

      Good one cats paw good one

    • Leroy Bird - 00
      9:04 am November 23, 2015 Permalink

      Cats Paw – good point, but if there is a loophole this year that awards us $$ and extra practices, which i think we can agree this team WILL benefit from, we should absolutely take it.

      The answer is not always to burn it all down and start over.

      And yes, I would watch the game and cheer like hell for the cats.

  2. Angelo
    9:19 pm November 22, 2015 Permalink

    Vegas only has us 3.5 points down. We have a chance with Barker.

  3. Jaxson
    9:25 pm November 22, 2015 Permalink

    I’d guess that Washington or San Jose State wouldn’t be selected for a bowl game in Detroit or Shreveport because of cost and distance, but who knows.

  4. keiths
    10:21 pm November 22, 2015 Permalink

    Fitting that our ghetto ass team would play in a ghetto ass city, like detroit

    • chardun20
      10:29 pm November 22, 2015 Permalink


    • UK Big Board Update
      10:59 pm November 22, 2015 Permalink

      Says the guy who’s never left the state…

    • Long Dong Silver
      11:08 pm November 22, 2015 Permalink

      What makes UK a ghetto team, Keiths? I’m not one to naturally assume someone is a fan of another school, but it seems likeley with you.

  5. chardun20
    10:31 pm November 22, 2015 Permalink

    I’ll take a Bowl game any way we can get in one, but let’s beat UofL, it’s time.

  6. The Rest of the story
    11:44 pm November 22, 2015 Permalink

    I am over joyed that KSR posted this and the fun I have reading the idiots who would be so happy to see a losing team go bowling. How pathetic does that make the fan base here look. Please you guys get a life it is not to late.

    • CATandMONKEY
      6:59 am November 23, 2015 Permalink

      Longview, maybe? I DESPISE awarding losers just for participating, BUT- we wouldn’t really be playing for this season if we went to a bowl. If Barker is one of the answers that this team needs then ANY bowl and the requisite extra month of practice can pay huge dividends for the future.

      If you are willing to chop off your d!ck just so you can crow from the top of the roost “We suck and I told you so” please do. Please. Seriously.

    • cats paw
      7:38 am November 23, 2015 Permalink

      CatandMonkey— how’s the crowing of “we’re turning it around” every year working for out you?

    • CATandMONKEY
      8:00 am November 23, 2015 Permalink

      It hasn’t been me agreeing with that sentiment but throwing the baby out with the bathwater and losing a month of possible practice that may help the program is rather shortsighted. While you, Rest and others feel that the only solution is to sack Stoops and Co….that ain’t happening babe. Regardless of results Stoops will get 5 years. If it is shown to be a total waste after 5, then so be it. Do you think I and many others are happy with our progress so far? Hardly. We ” could” have beaten FL, Auburn and Vandy. We could have not taken it up the backside from MS State. I blame the coaching staff, Stoops included for those losses. We had the talent and situations to win those games (not MS st) at the time they were played.
      Regardless of whether or not Stoops is the guy, dumping him after year 3 would be a worse kistake than you believe that his hire was. Our offensive play calling has been @$$ scratching, at best most of the year. I hate the idea of another new coordinator but feel that a change there would be possibly more beneficial to the program than installing an entirely new regime at this point.
      I really do think we can win Saturday, Louisville isn’t that good and we are at home. We actually have something to play for. I am ready for Stoops to surprise me and BBN. a good way. I want him to do what he was hired to do.

      I would still rather have YOU, CatsPaw, as coach than Petrino . We know your feelings for Bobby are strong. He has shown great skill as an offensive mind but his performance this year is barely better than what we have here…and he is a sh!tty human being who is NOT an elite coach. Second tier at his best. Not worth the baggage and attitude.

    • Leroy Bird - 00
      9:02 am November 23, 2015 Permalink

      Listen fellas –

      I posted the first comment relative to being on board with going to a bowl, regardless.

      I understand your positions that it’s pretty sad to take the bowl bid. Let me pose this question, as I think the improvement of the team in this instance is one of philosophy.

      Do you believe it is more helpful to the team to “take the 2 million and get a month of extra practice”, or to “clear house with this coaching staff and bring in a totally new perspective”?

      I believe in answer number one – and I don’t think it’s part of the watering down of culture to accept the bid just because we haven’t had a winning season. Quite simply, if there is a loophole this year that would award the team $$ and more practice – we’d be foolish not to take advantage of it.

    • UK Big Board Update
      9:46 am November 23, 2015 Permalink

      cats paw November 17, 2015 at 11:04 pm | Permalink
      Like It (0)
      but ill help you all out here for future knowledge. if Duke plays us again, pick Duke! they will not miss that many 3’s again. Hate all u wish but i can fill this thread full of my predictions that are generally 100% on! and thats why i get under your skin so much!!

  7. Megan
    8:54 am November 23, 2015 Permalink

    Why we hate Duke has nothing to do with politics, Jonathan. It’s not elitist to look down your nose at a state that ranks near the bottom of every meaningful socio-economic measure. Kentucky is a trash state. Those who refuse to see it sound like IU basketball fans who think they’re still relevant. Poor areas don’t vote for politicians who want to slash the safety net. People who receive Medicaid and food stamps don’t vote at all. That’s how Bevins won. It’s the people in the 4th quintile, many of whom took advantage of the safety net to raise themselves up, who can’t abide those still at the bottom. That’s your Tea Party: People who vote for the 1 percent (and against their own economic interests) because they don’t want to help support their slightly poorer neighbors. It’s messed up. They cut off their nose to spite their face. Sorry, but Kentucky is so much worse than most other states on so many levels, your friend George is quite right to look down his nose at it. Kentucky certainly deserves it. Thank god I got out.

    • Booby Petrino
      9:38 am November 23, 2015 Permalink

      Bevins won bc your lib friends were too lazy to get off their butts and vote, which doesn’t break any stereotypes of lazy libs who want everything handed to him. Parts of KY are trashy, parts aren’t; just like every state out there, you moron.

    • Piedma Schwartz
      10:32 am November 23, 2015 Permalink

      In the most meaningful socioeconomic measure, Median income adjusted for cost of living, Kentucky isn’t even in the bottom 10. Poverty statistics mean nothing when you use the same poverty rate between Manhattan and Cheyenne. You should educate yourself properly on economic issues before you start making baseless accusations and condescending remarks about an entire state.

  8. Rajonrondo9
    8:57 am November 23, 2015 Permalink

    If we don’t beat Louisville, we don’t deserve a bowl game.

  9. KevinM
    9:01 am November 23, 2015 Permalink

    We get a win this week and its back 2 Birmingham. How many people will be able to say they went to UK’s most recent bowl games? I remember that crowd/weather and seeing Cobb play his last game for us.
    Barker gets high praise if he can do enough get us to our 6th win.

  10. RealCatsFan
    9:57 am November 23, 2015 Permalink

    Yes, it would be somewhat embarrassing to take a bowl bid at 5-7, but if it helps us to have a better season next year, then I’m for it. We will need all the help we can get next year with a much tougher schedule and most tough games on the road. I’m as disappointed with this season as anyone else, but anyone who thinks the administration is going to fire Stoops and hire Miles (if LSU is foolish enough to fire him) is delusional. Not going to happen, no matter how much you wish for it. If we see further meltdowns and bad coaching decisions next year, and no sign of progress, then I think the seat under Stoops will start getting warm. IF that happens, maybe the planets will line up and UK will be in a position to hire a very good coach with a lot of experience, but that’s a tough one. UK hired Curry back in the 90’s amidst much fanfare (he did take ‘Bama to 10-1 the prior year after all), and we saw how that turned out. We hired Claiborne, who was a proven coach at Maryland, and he fielded respectable teams, but we still did not break through to become a consistent football power. I don’t know what it is going to take, and I don’t know if Stoops is the answer, but whining and moping for something that is not going to happen does us no good.

  11. BluKudzu
    11:02 am November 23, 2015 Permalink

    It is college football. If the NCAA is stupid enough to provide the opportunity to play and the money from the bowl to pay for it as well as the players wanting it, go for it. I do not believe it will make any difference. I hope they beat Louisville and this will be a non issue. It really could have been several games ago, but that is over.
    Go cats.

  12. Howdy Doody
    11:26 am November 23, 2015 Permalink

    Have we as fans REALLY Stoop-ed so low as to scream “Yippee” at the notion of going to a Pity Bowl at 5:30 on local TV in front of a Maximum 25K stadium ??
    Goodness, I for one will not be a happy fan/alum…
    Sprinkles are for WINNERS..

    • UK Big Board Update
      1:26 pm November 23, 2015 Permalink

      Miserable troll…

  13. Howdy Doody
    1:39 pm November 23, 2015 Permalink

    You sure do like insulting people you do not know…I do believe that is a qualification to be a “troll”
    Just because a LOT of us are not dancing in the streets at the prospect of an SEC football team being orgasmic over a “also ran” bowl does not indicate a “troll” is speaking….
    Good day.

    • UK Big Board Update
      2:24 pm November 23, 2015 Permalink

      Miserable human being….