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Is Tim Beck now the leading OC candidate?

Interesting rumblings from our friends at 247 Sports. According to Ryan Bartow, former Nebraska offensive coordinator Tim Beck has emerged as a frontrunner for the UK OC opening. I profiled Beck on Monday, but in short, he favors a up-tempo rushing attack utilizing two sprinters, two bruisers and two fullbacks. He also grew up with Mark Stoops and Vince Marrow in Youngstown, Ohio and interviewed for the head coaching job at Kansas earlier this week.

If Stoops does hire Beck, it will de a drastic change for the currently pass-happy UK offense. This season, Nebraska ran 64% rushing plays and only 36% passing plays. Sounds like something Damien Harris might like to hear?

[247 Sports]

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39 Comments for Is Tim Beck now the leading OC candidate?

  1. Dr. Leo Spaceman
    1:01 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    Well, this style woud be the best with our current roster. We should be running more than passing. Especially if we get Damien Harris

  2. wildcat502
    1:18 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    I`d be happy with this hire, as long as we can up the passing to 45%. We need to run the ball to control the time clock and give the defense a rest. But do we have the offensive line to do this effectively? The SEC teams are strong up front, on defense, but Harris may like this hire.

  3. 3dcatfan
    1:19 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    Oh boy this should be exciting…… 🙁

    • mashburnfan1
      9:35 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

      On the profile TT did it says Neb averaged 5.48 yards per carry, who would not run a lot with that average per carry. Interesting in that they also averaged about 15 yards per reception which is good as we only averaged 12.2 per catch this season. UGA runs the ball dang good and they compete great in the SEC.
      Plus I read on here while at Kansas he did throw a lot and had high ranking offenses so it seems he adapts to his players strengths. I don’t know much about him but for people to say running is boring or we need air raid, NO we need to win games. I love the excitement of passing as well but not the crap Brown had us throw, most passes were 3 yarders or behind the line of scrimmage and the play calling at key times was horrible.

  4. helixvortexv2
    1:21 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    I am not sure we have a offensive line that will allow a run dominate offense. When NU played Minn. they had one series where they ran it 17 times out of 18. Here is the quote “Their safeties were down and I think we had run it 17 straight plays,” Beck said. It was actually 17 runs out of 18 plays. “We were trying to take a shot over the top, safeties were about two yards from the line of scrimmage. Just didn’t protect very well and we got sacked.”
    I am not sure UK fans can stomach this. I see punter U coming back to KY.

  5. CatsfaninFL
    1:25 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    I’m fine with it if Stoops thinks that is what our personnel will support, but if not this could be a problem down the road. Stoops has 1 more ‘grace’ year and if he’s not producing in year 4 grumblings will be heavy. Personnel recruitment seems to be favoring more of the Air Raid/passing attack the last few years so we’ll see if we have the team to run the offense…

  6. Time Expired
    1:30 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    Does anyone remember Curry’s great hire here with Ulciak and Tim Couch at QB? A pure disaster if ever there was one. PLEASE DO NOT HIRE THIS GUY JUST TO GET DAMIEN HARRIS. He is not worth it to ruin an offense being built to pass a lot.

    • cats42301
      2:53 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

      It’s Elliot Uzelac but yes I agree totally. At the time Couch had most KY high school passing records and idiot Uzelac and Curry had him running the option. Had Curry not been fired Couch would have transferred. Drew Barker did not come to UK to hand the ball off to RB’s two thirds of the time. If Stoops wants to see Commonwealth Stadium look like it did during the Vandy game in ’12, go ahead and hire this guy and then don’t win and you’ll see. If the fans aren’t guaranteed some type of exciting offense next year I think you’ll see attendance drop off even more than this year when we could barely get a sellout with the #1 team in town, even with the smaller capacity.

  7. BigBlueSean
    1:34 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    People that bash Beck are obsessed with an offense that UK hasn’t run since Mumme was here. Yes – Neal Brown didn’t run the air raid…

    What would Beck give us…well

    He is a two time Broyle Award nominee
    Was Passing Coordinator at Kansas, when KU had the 2nd highest scoring offense in the country (averaged 290 passing and 140 rushing per game)
    Also, he has spent time coaching WRs (at KU) and RBs at Nebraska (NU)
    Most recent, he was NU’s QB coach and OC from 2011-2014
    NU offense under his control averaged 220 passing yards and 240 rushing yards a game
    NU average about 35 points per game under his control

    • cats42301
      2:54 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

      Are you his PR guy?

    • 25OR624
      3:51 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

      Actually, it has not been as much fun since Mumme was here. But it does sound like Beck’s about 50/50 on the run and pass.

  8. tkat
    1:36 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    If we get Damien Harris we are instantly a top 25 program. This is the exact move we need to make. This will also open up the passing game to be more effective. We might pass less, but with greater returns.

    • Time Expired
      1:42 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

      LOL LOL LOL so your saying one recruit will put UK in the top 25? My gosh man are you really that insane? Riley is the guy we want and anyone else will be a total revamp of the offense and put UK 2 more years back.

    • bandalumnus
      1:56 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

      I totally agree with Time Expired, here. We need the continuity of someone knowledgeable in the Air Raid offense. This is what we’ve built towards and what the fan base is hoping for as well. Let’s not waste our time on an Elliot Uzelac Jr. hiring. Ugh…

    • BigBlueBoom
      2:03 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

      I sure hope Time and band have Stoops’ number. Heck maybe you guys should just take his job since you know so much. Gotta love KSR message board coaches.

    • Time Expired
      2:34 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

      BigBlueBoom …… Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it

    • cats paw
      2:39 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

      Although a great athlete…Damien Harris couldn’t make his high school team competitive!!! You expect him to take over the SEC?

    • bandalumnus
      2:42 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

      BigBlueBoom, message boards are for comments and opinions. I’m only stating my opinion, and I won’t go so far as to believe my opinion is definitive… it’s probably far from it, in fact. But, I was at UK during Claiborne’s years, and I sat through the years where our favorite cheer was “up the middle, up the middle, up the middle, punt.” That was the core of our offensive philosophy. It rarely worked. I saw Curry try the same thing. Didn’t work. Why? Because we were never big enough up front to beat even the middle tier SEC teams. And, I don’t believe we’re ever going to be big enough up front to EVER do it on a regular basis. It wasn’t until Mumme came along that we finally became competitive again. That made Kentucky football exciting and enjoyable again. Three downs and a cloud of dust won’t work in the SEC if you don’t have the horses up front to knock the defense off the line of scrimmage. Plus, we have 2 1/2 years of Air Raid recruits. That’s a square peg, round hole scenario, and in my OPINION, it won’t be successful.

  9. RandyB
    1:38 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    The hiring of his new Offensive Coordinator will define the tenure of Mark Stoops.
    If he chooses Beck, I predict his tenure at Kentucky will be defined as SHORT.
    I could not think of a worse hire. This would be a return to Totally Boring Football.
    Uselac Redux. Stoops needs to forget about his high school chums in this case.
    We have 2 1/2 years of Air Raid recruits. Switching to ground-pounding is INSANE.

  10. wu slang
    1:39 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    Kentucky had serious problems on offense and defense. But they held SEC east champion Missouri to 20 pts and lost. KY is losing Zadarius Smith, Dupree and more next year. So we’re in a state of perpetual rebuilding I guess…….

  11. bandalumnus
    1:44 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    I’m sorry, but I too harken back to Curry’s hire of Elliot Useless as OC when he had Tim Couch in the fold and that first year watching Tim trying to run an option offense was painful. It took C.M. Newton going to Tim and telling him that he was going to hire a coach that threw the ball to keep him from transferring. Similarly, we have a terrific young QB in Drew Barker that needs an offensive scheme that’s going to benefit his ability to throw the ball down the field, not run it 65% of the time. Kentucky is never going to be able to pound the ball on the ground against the likes of other SEC teams. Mumme gave us a chance to win because he recognized we could combat our lack of size up front with a full fledged passing attack. A true air-raid attack has been very successful all over the country, and it’s far more appealing than what this guy is going to offer, in my humble opinion. Please, please, Coach Stoops, go with someone that knows how to throw the football around…

  12. JaredCarterIsMyHomeboy
    2:07 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    It seems like a good idea, in theory. Teams like LSU have such NFL ready secondaries its going to be really hard passing the ball a lot. But teams like Bama are so strong up front that sometimes going over the top is the best thing to do. I would HATE to see us run the ball 66% of the time. Unless we have a collegiate Ricky Williams, it’s going to be super boring and make it hard to compete until we have a top caliber line. The Air Raid gives us something different than what most SEC teams do. It’s to our advantage in recruiting most definitely.

  13. BigBlueSean
    2:08 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    I tend to disagree… We are recruiting a much different athlete up front.

    Under Stoops: Offensive Linemen Recruited:

    Nick Haynes- 6’3/320
    Josh Krok – 6’8/325
    Jarrett LaRubbio- 6’8/310
    Nick Richardson- 6’4/300
    Kyle Meadows- 6’5/300
    Ramsey Meyers- 6’4/300
    Bucky Stallings- 6’3/330
    George Asafo-Adjei- 6’4/310
    Levon Livingston- 6’7/290
    Larry Wells- 6’6/310
    Mason Wolfe- 6’5/300

    The “air raid” attack is not what is successful in the SEC. Its a spread attack, which is very different than an “air raid” attack. Rich Brooks ran a pro-style offense with spread elements. How many bowls in a row did he go to? Texas A&M is a spread attack, Auburn is a spread attack, Georgia is Spread attack, Mizzou is Spread, so is Miss St….

    This guy has a ton of experience coaching QB’s and OL. Last time I checked, it dont matter how good your QB is unless you can protect him. You say we couldnt line up and run the ball…Look at what Beilema has done at Arkansas….in no time. OL is all about technique and size.Its amazing how many “football people” come talk and have no clue what they are talking about.

    I bet maybe 3-5 could tell me the difference between a spread and an air raid offense. Its mostly about tempo, not necessarily the offensive scheme.

    • El_Joe
      2:28 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

      I’m not getting into “air raid” versus “pro style” versus spread. But I will say this. I think it would be an epic failure on the part of UK to bring in a guy who just thinks UK is going to line up and punch it up the gut against teams in the SEC.

      Whatever Kentucky does, by the nature of the beast, should be outside the box. We can’t play Alabama’s game and beat them. We can’t play Georgia’s or Florida’s or Tennessee’s game and beat them. We have to be inventive. Now that doesn’t mean we have to throw the ball 70 times per game… but it does mean that whoever the hire is, he needs to understand that he’s going to be outmanned more often than not, and he has to work around that.

    • BigBlueSean
      3:30 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

      I understand, and im not saying go 3 yards and a cloud of dust. I think stoops wants to add a power aspect. Beck does have multiple years of experience under Mangino- an Air Raid purist. So its not like he is not experienced in slinging it around.

  14. Time Expired
    2:41 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    I say we get a coach that plays every down on offense. I say if UK is 4th and 10 or less we go for it every time unless inside the 20. That is outside the box and would be interesting as to how well it would work. No other team has EVER tried this!!!!

  15. cats paw
    2:48 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    Seriously folks….this is like listening to a Vanderbilt forum with them discussing how stealing the offensive coordinator away from Morehead St. willl make them relevant!! This program is going nowhere, regardless of who they hire as o/c. If they ever want to be relevant they will shell out about 5 million/yr for a proven coach!

    • cats42301
      3:16 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

      Why waste your time posting here if you’re going to spout nothing but negativity? Go search the internet for that $5mil a year coach and report back to the rest of us when you’re done.

  16. Kyblue34
    2:52 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    I would be very disappointed if he is the choice as it will take 3-4 years to get his system up and running with the personnel we currently have. Also, it’s tough to tell whether he is a good OC or not, when he relies so much on a Heisman caliber RB.

  17. Jack Nicklaus
    3:10 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    If you want to suck the life back out of the fanbase, hire this guy. Run, run, run is NOT exciting football and you could say goodbye to Barker and our 4-star WRs. KY simply MUST have some excitement to its football to compete w/ our SEC foes….trying to push around GA, AL and FL’s defensive lineman is not going to work. Would be a huge mistake.

  18. BigBlueSean
    3:32 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink


    • Kyblue34
      6:37 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

      So, what you’re saying is that he’s been nothing but a puppet OC wherever he’s coached? Why would we want that, especially considering Stoops is a defense guy?

  19. Bluebloodtoo
    4:36 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    I hear Muschamp is available. Why isn’t anyone looking at him for the new OC?

  20. dudewheresmygillispie
    5:51 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    this is stupid. if he hires this guy then clearly he had disagreements with Neal Brown. Stoops will be out in 3 years if he hires this guy.

  21. James
    6:17 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    sounds like Stoops is hiring his childhood friends only

  22. jdsmitty89
    6:34 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

    What people don’t seem to realize is that an air raid offense is a pass oriented, up tempo version of the spread offense. Beck runs a run oriented version of the spread offense, it really isn’t very different than what we ran this year. He also had a Heisman candidate for a running back this year, so why wouldn’t you utilize that? Hes been the qb coach at Nebraska, wr coach, and running back coaches elsewhere. Personally I think he may be the best candidate for the job.

    • rainman
      9:01 pm December 3, 2014 Permalink

      What we ran this year sucked!
      PLEASE, say no to this guy!

    • new dreamer
      12:12 am December 4, 2014 Permalink

      Did Stoops waste two years with Neal Brown’s offense? Remember Brook’s wasted two tears with his first O/C with big boy Jared running an option offense. Did we see the true offense Brown wanted to run or a watered down version trying to establish a running game for more ball control to take time off the clock? Did we see the wide spread quick passing offense that Brown seemed to have always used in his coaching career? It appears that may have wasted two years on an offense he really didn’t want. Will he now have to start all over again?

      If Stoops wants a 60/40 run to pass ratio he had better sign some big nasty lineman to go against some big and overly mean SEC defenses. I hope in the future we don’t wish we had let Brown done his real thing. I really like coach Stoops and know he will work hard to build a winner at UK. But can he get the athletic big boys from the area he recruits? Harris will be a big help to his offense.