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UL Radio Announcer Takes On UL Fans Who Say Referees were “Biased”


If you have a UL fan in your life (and chances are you do…and if you don’t, meet one. Just like every conservative should have a liberal friend and vice versa, every UK fan should have one UL fan…if for no other reason than as an act of charity), then chances are that you have heard them complain that they were “jobbed” by the referees in Rupp Arena on Saturday. They of course are following the lead of their coach, who complained that the referees were “affected” by the Rupp Arena crowd and who took special offense to Tony Greene, who has refereed a number of UK-UL games. This led a writer on the prominent Louisville site, “Card Chronicle to suggest UL lost because of the officials in what may be the worst attempt at a logical article I have ever read in my life (a shame, because the site’s Editor Mike Rutherford is a tremendous writer who has to be shaking his head right now). This refrain is familiar and loud. The great Cardinals could not have lost because, oh I don’t know, they have no frontcourt play, shot the ball poorly and had no answer when Kentucky lost its best player for an entire half. No instead, the problem must have been with the cheating officials at dirty Rupp Arena.

Now while we all know this is silly, they don’t. So one of their own has had to say it for them. UL radio color guy Bob Valvano took to his Facebook page to diffuse the argument and asks UL fans to “try to be smarter than a turnip.” He writes:

Let’s start with the officials. Mark Whitehead, Tony Greene, and Doug Sirmons are three of THE best officials in college basketball.
They have all recently worked final fours, Greene one of the officials in the Louisville national championship win over Michigan just last year.
They aren’t assigned by UK, or by the SEC.
They did not unfairly influence the game. Sorry. They didn’t. They would have NO rational reason to do any such thing.
Try to be smarter than a turnip. Why would they risk their ENTIRE professional careers to cheat in this game?

Now, did they miss some calls? Of course they did! They do EVERY game. Basketball is BY FAR the hardest game to officiate…by far. Its not even close!
So when you cite isolated calls you’re not making any valid point.
The question is, are they in position? Are they trying to be consistent? Do they make sense?
They do and they did.

Fans cite the palming calls on Louisville. Because it is an unusual call, people got upset.
They miss the point…it was the right call, AND the official had warned the players involved earlier to be careful they were getting dangerously close to palming the ball. That’s good officiating.
The players ignored him. They called it…Rick Pitino nodded his head (if you noticed), telling his players it was a good call.
You cannot ignore the officials.
Lesson learned.

And of course he is correct. Blaming the officials is absurd. Kentucky was the better team on the court and controlled the game. There were missed calls (I thought a few tough ones went against UL early, but some late kept the Cards in the game), but they didn’t decide the outcome. The better team on Saturday won, and that is how it should be. If the teams play again, the result may be different. However the officials were not the root cause of the Card loss. Rick Pitino disagreed of course, but he has disagreed multiple times with officials (see this article, where he complains that the NCAA Tournament officials aren’t enough like the Big East officials and this article, where he laughably called the officials too “arrogant”, a trait that showcases Mr Humble has as little self-awareness as he does truth-telling ability.) As with most everything else, the fans that complain are following the lead of their coach, who has never met a loss that he couldn’t blame on others. Thankfully, Mr. Valvano disagreed.

To be fair, Valvano did not only write on the officials. He also took a thinly veiled shot at me. This is normal for Bob, as he does an afternoon radio show in Louisville listened to by literally tens of people, and when his best segment is not airing (the great “Whats in the Paper”, where he literally reads…what…is…in…the…paper. Riveting radio), he often takes shots at the “UK guy” who yaps too much. Valvano did not like the criticism I made of Pitino “skipping” his press conference and wrote:

As for UK fans who want to gripe about Pitino meeting the press outside his locker room instead of the podium…puh-leeze! There is a guy who caters to the haters in the local media (I use that word media loosely in this case), and he helps drive the hate bus. I know he emphatically reported this. But I have been to about 300 NBA games probably…EVERY one the media covers EXACTLY like Rick Pitino met with the media in Rupp. Exactly the same way. Every single game. So stop with the “he didn’t meet the media” thing. I know you love to hate, and create bad blood where it doesn’t exist, but it just annoys the rest of us with half a brain. He met the media. He talked. He gave UK the credit they deserved for a very good win. Just stop the bullshit.

While I am glad Mr. Valvano has covered “300 NBA games” (that is a lot of games Bob…congrats!), it has nothing to do with the point. At COLLEGE games at Kentucky and Louisville, the coach comes to a podium and addresses the media after the game. In NBA games, the media may do it differently, but the last time I checked, Rupp Arena was not the NBA. Pitino doesn’t do this in Lexington because he doesn’t want to take questions from the media not from his home city. So even though probably 100 media members were waiting for him at the podium, he stood outside his locker room where only a few reporters could speak to him (all guys who mysteriously knew he would be there and are the handpicked friends/co-authors of the coach) and he can thus avoid any tough questions. Case in point? Even though Pitino played Akoy Agua, a player that he previously said was “suspended indefinitely” and yet missed ZERO games, not one reporter asked him about the change of heart. Why didn’t they ask? Because those who would (such as UK guys or even neutrals like Lachlan Mclean) were stuck in the other room waiting at the podium.

Still yet, even with the shot at me, I applaud Mr. Valvano. In between the Candy Crush games and arguments over Duck Dynasty, his Facebook post did do one thing well. It told UL fans that those who complained were acting with the IQ of turnips. When one of your own says that…well, that should probably end the discussion.

Article written by Matt Jones

128 Comments for UL Radio Announcer Takes On UL Fans Who Say Referees were “Biased”

  1. Mike Jones
    8:10 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Jones, how does your head fit into any room you walk into? You are a C-lister, at best.

    I can’t wait until the next time Dan Dakich makes you cower in the corner.

    • BleedingBlue79
      8:15 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      Haha, I always love the made up fairy tale of Dan Dakich making Matt “cower.” Because we all know how afraid Matt is to stand up & speak his mind. Also hilarious how this guy who hates Matt so much, went to the trouble to post the very first comment. The obsession is real.

      In any event, the funniest part of Valvano’s comments was when unwittingly admitted to having half a brain.

  2. Owned
    8:11 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Matt just owned this dude.

  3. bob v sucks
    8:13 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Of course UofL fans blamed refs. We covered this last year.

    • DR
      9:37 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      After reviewing the game, there were only two bad calls and they were both no calls. One was late in the game when Smith made the steal in front of UK’s bench and took five steps before throwing the long pass for a Louisville layup. The other was also late in the game when James Young stole the ball and took off to his basket and double-dribbled right before kicking the ball off to Harrison for a layup.

    • So
      4:18 pm December 30, 2013 Permalink

      What were your thoughts on the play WCS ripped Smith on making zero contact and called for the foul?
      Or the play where Smith lost the ball before jumping into WCS and they called it out on WCS without touching the ball?
      Poythress had a clean rip too and was called-must have been the angle.
      Also the 2nd foul on Harrell was a bad call.

  4. ag slater
    8:15 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Actually dont mind valvano. He is much better than vanneti, drew weiner, or dave jennings. Sometimes i think matt really needs to get some action. Either way go cats!!!.

  5. UK
    8:16 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Jim Valvano’s ESPY speech is the greatest speech I’ve ever heard. That’s the only Valvano worth listening to.

    • na8vecat
      8:24 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      you are right sir

  6. bill stout
    8:20 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Dan Dakich literally burgals turds

  7. Wow
    8:22 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Wow. What an ignorant human being. I had front row seats and watched louisville slap, grab, and reach at our guards the whole game. Last year Nerlens Noel was pulled to the ground by dieng on a possession that decided the game, and there was a walk called. One word to describe Pitino and this “reporter” or whatever u want to call him, is cowardly

    • na8vecat
      9:00 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      You are right there ….they mauled Noel and then called him for walking …total bullcrap

  8. Teddy Bongwater
    8:23 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    This was great. Good points Matt! I am glad you arent afraid to speak the truth.

  9. na8vecat
    8:27 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Matt you have an un-canny way up speaking the truth .I loved listening to your show last night on the way home from Rupp arena , heading back to Clarksville . It was my first UL/UK game in person and was a truly awesome experince.

  10. cal owns rick
    8:28 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    After losing 5 of 6 to Cal slick Rick knows how to sneak out of Rupp quietly

  11. harry
    8:36 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    I were Rick, I wont take any questions either. His team sucked, upper class men folded. Turnovers, FTs, Rebounding, etc. fell short for an EXPERIENCED squad. How do you defend that?

  12. Yam Centre
    8:38 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Try to be smarter than a yam!

  13. Bunny
    8:40 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Way to go, Matt!

    • wrb
      8:42 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      Always nice to hear the options of the dumbass section.

    • wrb
      8:45 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      Sorry bunny, was supposed to have been a reply to #8. Don’t know why it out it under yours.

    • ksr fan
      8:47 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      options…….did you mean opinions dumbass?

  14. harry
    8:45 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    At work Im surrounded by card fans, cash coming my way in the morning…

  15. Karmaisab
    8:46 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Way to go Matt, besmirching a gentlemen who was trying to be a voice of reason, oh and an all around good guy who gives much of himself to community service. He really struck a nerve when he diplomatically (and truthfully) called you out as someone who encourages the the hate speak that fuels the idiots on both sides who act like two year olds. If I didn’t already know It would have been easy to guess your previous profession. You should have stuck with it. Schoolyard Bully will not carry you very far.

    • harry
      8:56 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      I have been listening to KSR for sometime now, Matt is opinionated, neither a bully nor a hate promoter etc. I think your personal dislike for Matt is evident, also Im not sure how you figure Mr, Valvano is the voice of reason?

    • Karmaisab
      9:16 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      Apparently you don’t follow him on twitter. Unfortunately a few of my Uk friends do and I am subjected to their retweets of his “UL hate/mocking week” tweets. And yes, you are correct in your statement about not liking Mr. Jones but to be fair I don’t like anyone who encourages unsportsmanlike behavior from either side.

  16. Yam Centre
    8:46 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    *Yam Center. Sorry, sometimes we international fans forget to translate. Go Cats! Boooo blaming the refs, sweaty restaurant tables and line beards!

  17. wrb
    8:46 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    *Put it under yours.

  18. harry
    8:48 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    No matter how card pundits/fans spin it, we won…

  19. Ashland cat fan
    8:50 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Matt, I believe Pitino saw UKs talent over the last couple years and believed he was playing a NBA team. Thus the reason he waited outside of the locker room for the media. He’s old and gets confused. Just cut him a little slack. We need to take care of our senior citizens.

  20. bob
    8:51 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Matt Jones will NEVER have as much class as Valvano. Valvono Is well respected with his peers and they all know Matt Jones is like the National Enquirer. Plants his calls just to create sensationlism….What a joke!!!

    • Teddy Bongwater
      8:59 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      UL lost on saturday. Have a nice evening 🙂

    • harry
      9:01 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      i must admit I dont listen to Mr. Valvano, but what is a measure of class by you?

  21. Katbluefan
    8:54 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Well Little Ricky couldn’t make it to the Post game media room and we all know why. He gets more of an ahole every year plus it just kills him that Cal is kicking his rear at the program that he wishes he had never left. Now with the excuses Pitino comes up with, all BS, if the Refs had called all the hand checking L’ville had done then they wouldn’t had any players to finish the game. Pitino is just a CRY BABY so shut up Rick and take your loss like a man.

  22. Dick Pitino
    8:59 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    RickyP teaches his team to foul so much that the refs miss alot of them. This year they are going to call them. So this year he will be bitching after games alot. You would think that the UL radio announcer would compare how RickyP met the press, compared to other college coaches, since he is a college coach. I think the “UL dynasty” talk from RickyP will die now. (Thanks Refs)

    • Cj
      9:36 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      “A lot” is two words! Better to keep your mouth shut and let everyone assume your ignorance rather than open your mouth (write your thoughts) and remove all doubt.

    • Dick Pitino
      10:44 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      Cj, Thanks for worrying about the typing on KSR. They must pay you A LOT to do that job.

  23. Lisa
    8:59 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Will Pitino be fined for complaining about refs publicly ?

    • na8vecat
      9:19 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      I doubt it because it was like this…”Rick how did the crowd effect your team, He answered it didn’t it did the refs though” So he really was not slamming the refs outright, but we all know he was .

      Rick is a great coach . He was booed like crazy when he entered Rupp yesterday and I have to admit I was one of the folks booing .

      But if we really think back to the late 80’s when Ky was at rock bottom and Rick came to Ky and in his first year there we were .500 ! Who else could have done that ?He brought Kentucky’s program back to national prominence !

      Now I will admit him coming to our arch rival has a negative affect on our fan base . What would have happened to Bear Bryant if he left Bama for the PROS then came back to coach at Auburn ?? He probably would have been shot at !!!

      I think Rick has changed a great deal since his days at Kentucky . I know losing his brother in law on 9/11 took allot out of him and the Karen Sypher scandal took it’s toll on him too. He is just not the same person he was when he was at Ky. He even said it was the biggest mistake he has made in his coaching career , by going to the Knicks . But I have to admit the guy is a top knotch coach , but yesterday he did dodge the post game interview at the podium no one can say he didn’t , and that was not good to say the least .

    • BBN Dave Grohl
      9:36 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      na8vecat, I’ve heard the same thing about how losing his brother-in-law continues to affect him. Rick knows he screwed up royally leaving in 97. He’s said on many occasions how that is the biggest mistake and regret of his whole coaching career (I’m sure there’s bigger ones in his personal life). If he would’ve stayed, I have no doubt we would be tied with or leading UCLA right now. Just my opinion. But like you said, coming back to UL has tarnished him in the minds of Kentucky fans forever

    • Oohlala
      11:22 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      I have defended Ricky P for years. Even though he went to Louisville, what he did for our program after our virtual death sentence was amazing. I know a lot of the younger fans probably cant remember how bad it was and how Rick came in and rebuilt our program in just a few years. I dont believe anyone else could have done that. We took Duke to the brink and made them make a miracle shot in 92. If Laettner missed the shot we would have been in the final four our first year off of probation. Then he took us to the championship game in 96, and 97 and his guys went again in 98 with Tubby.
      However, in the last few years his continuous lieing and hippocraccy has forced me to lose a lot of respect for him. The whole Behanen fiasco, then the Kevin Ware incident he claimed had nothing to do with basketball and now Akoy Agau’s indefinite suspension. He claims he is teaching them to be better men while sweeping their actions under the rug and actually holding them not accountable at all. Andthey call us a win at all costs program?

    • jc
      1:41 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      Rick tried hard to screw my wife while he was at UK. He grabbed her ass constantly while he threw money my way. I hated him before he left UK, I really hate him after. He is the worst type of human being.

  24. Poops mcgee
    9:02 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Will the post game show be available to stream?

  25. Hoof Hearted
    9:05 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Pitino’s teams have always gotten away with riding the opponent full-court with bumping, slapping and grabbing. Remember when he was at UK and he charted deflections? It’s part of his overall strategy to take lesser teams out of their comfort zone and to induce bad decisions. He doesn’t care if it produces a turnover every play, but the overall effect is to wear down the opponent… and, in part, the officials). The officials are not going to call every one of these as a foul because the inevitably become the baseline physical nature of the game itself and only the more blatant fouls will be called.

    With all that being said, Louisville fans should quit their whining. They have absolutely no reason to complain about the officiating yesterday. For all the bad or no-calls they claim, I can think of at least eight times where UK was robbed. I do feel officiating has gotten worse over the years, but I can’t remember a game in the last 20+ years where there weren’t at least a couple of bad calls. It’s part of college basketball unfortunately.

    • harry
      9:08 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      copy that, also smart card fans are worried…

    • UKHowell84
      10:40 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      If officials would warn against the hand checking, bodying and overall mugging and then call the first instances of it, much like they handled the palming of the ball issue, UL’s teams wouldn’t be able to get away with it. I’m tired of hearing how good that “tough nosed” defense is. This is basketball, not football. With what happened last year, especially to Wichita State, UL isn’t winning at basketball, they are winning at fouling and it is disgusting. I definitely think teams should play hard and having a little contact and toughness occasionally is a good thing, but there must be consistency and balance. I think a good example of acceptable contact is when a player is trapped, the defense hussled and got into good position and getting handsy for the ball is an okay thing. It is not, in my opinion, okay to ride a player down the court reaching across their body, or to hack constantly like UL does. Russ Smith also benefitted greatly from “contact” driving to the rim on run outs, yet our guards couldn’t get a call going through traffic. Randle also gets mauled, so Pitino is way off base there.

  26. Spencercatfan
    9:06 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    I have been looking for a podcast of the post game show as well. Please help us out!

    • Oohlala
      11:08 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      Just google Matt Jones podcast but it may be a few days till its available.

  27. harry
    9:07 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    This was a bad loss for cards, they are exposed as two guard team. Before the game, i thought that we would run into a match up issue (quickness particularly). Turns out it was complete opposite, our size bothered them all day long, frazzled and confused the most seasoned players on cards roaster.

  28. bigcat4453
    9:07 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Yeah, Bob, I think you speak of the wrong Valvano. Obviously Matt has gotten under his skin and he has to lash out at him. Admit it, Ricky three stacks was afraid of the questions he might receive from reporters. He won’t even take live questions from his poorly educated Minions on his radio call in show!

  29. Gap Tooth Danny
    9:10 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    You guys that dvr’ed the game, go back and look at the sequence where UK was shooting free throws and Julius was called for lane violation. You may notice that Hancock stuck out his right arm and pushed Julius just enough to throw him off balance. At another time in the first half, Hancock locked arms with a UK player and got away with it. If that’s the kind of chickens**t stuff that UL thought they could get away with the entire game, then no wonder they’re mad…

  30. Legacy Larry
    9:10 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Matt , little bobby V is not the only ill spoken ill mannered sports writer complaining about the refs. I got unfriended today on Facebook by the red faced Eric Crawford for disagreeing with him on the post he placed on Facebook today. He first posted the 10 reasons Louisville lost, then posted the 9 reasons Kentucky won. The common reason he had on both was the game being played in Rupp Arena and how the refs always call the game for the other side. So says every coach who has a game there. so says Sir Eric !! I just questioned him why he did not list a weak, weak schedule made up by his pals Ricky, and Tommy. Next thing I know no more Eric Crawford as a Facebook friend. Maybe Tommy Turtleneck told him to do it. Ya guess ?

    • harry
      9:17 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      I think deep down these guys know that their team is in deep waters at first sign of challenge. I should not speculate but if we hit free throws, beat them by 10 or more. That is a bad sign for cards..

    • blueinmemphis
      11:41 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      Legacy Larry, I just read Eric Crawford’s 10 reasons Louisville lost, and the 9 reasons UK won. Nowhere in ANY of those 19 reasons did Crawford even mention Rupp Arena or the Refs. Maybe you making up things is why you got booted?

    • Steady
      2:59 pm December 30, 2013 Permalink

      blueinmemphis, maybe you can’t read.

      10. OFFICIALS. I only include this because Pitino wasn’t happy with officiating. I don’t think it was any more a factor in this game than it is in any game at Rupp Arena, or the KFC Yum! Center. How often do you hear opposing coaches happy with the whistle they got at Rupp? Never. Ask the guys from Cleveland State how they liked it. Nor are opponents happy over the whistle they get at Louisville. The good news for Louisville is that if it does play the Wildcats again, the game won’t be in Rupp. The bad news is that the Wildcats aren’t going to get any shorter in the interim. And the Cardinals need to figure out a way to take their own show on the road.

  31. harry
    9:11 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    yam center is delicious !!!

  32. bigcat4453
    9:15 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    I guess none of the Loserville fans have commented on the fact that Russ got away with a travel not once, but twice that both lead to UL baskets late in the ball game?

    • jpg
      9:58 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      So true.

  33. Yam Centre
    9:17 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Ugh, sorry wrb. Don’t know what I was thinking. Won’t happen again.

  34. bigcat4453
    9:17 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Larry, I wouldn’t consider it much of a loss by being defriended by Eric Crawford either! Reporters like him like to start controversy but seldom like to answer when the shoes squarely on the other foot!

  35. harry
    9:20 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Yes, I heard the call. Dude was a bit upset about his team losing, what got me was the yam center. I was truly surprised.

    • Jaybird
      10:49 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      And the fact that he repeated several times!

  36. Cat in SLC
    9:33 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    4 things to remember about the officiating in this game:
    1. Rules updated to call those type of fouls. Cal talked to his team before the season about them. Pitino?
    2. UL’s style of play is more likely to get fouls called (this year especially).
    3. UK is #1 in the country at getting to the FT line – that means they get more fouls called because they go to the basket. This has nothing to do with Rupp.
    4. UK has freshman that can be taught new rules. UL has veterans that have played in the Big East their whole careers. That conference would entrench the hand-checking, foul-prone style of play more than any other (even the Big Ten).

  37. Melvit
    9:42 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    I guess those UL fans ignored all the pushing and shoving that the Cards got away with. I didn’t think the officials really had much to do with the outcome of this game and I wouldn’t have thought this if we lost. I didn’t curse the refs at all during the game.

  38. Come on
    9:44 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    What about our #20 Bob.?
    After all the bravado predictions of Cardinal excellence proved foolish and all the vile, demeaning , lies and hate he posted on this site, Bob now can’t believe Matt says bad things about U of L ? Sorry Bob, the voices in your head must be awful.

  39. 1morecatfan
    9:46 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    right before mr. valvano states stop the bullshit, he says rick gave uk the credit they deserved,but i recall rick being asked if the crowd bothered his players, and he said they bothered the refs more than the how do you defend a guy thats complaining about the very thing your post starts out about,PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE REFS.

  40. KentuckyJoe
    9:54 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Who is this Valvano guy, never heard of him? He has a radio show, like a talk show? Who are the 10 people who listen to him his family?

    • JC
      10:06 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      He has a famous brother he has been cashing in on for 20 years.

    • Ukbradstith
      1:38 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      Come on joe, this act is getting old. You always act like you’ve never heard of people. Bob V has been a national commentator for espn for like ten years. He’s actually quite good and knowledgeable. I don’t listen to his show, because quite frankly it’s boring, but I don’t act like I don’t know who he is either.

  41. Rixter
    10:20 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    That’s how they do pressers at NBA games? Does Rick Pitino still coach in the NBA? I thought he got road out of Boston on a rail? Why has Pitino showed up to every post game press conference when the Cards win, but skips mot of them after losses (in favor of the NBA-style hallway meeting, where he ansers 3 or 4 questions from Bozich and Howie Lindsey)

    • catdaddyd
      2:24 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      If you watch the hallway presser, Bozich has his hand on Ricky P’s ass.

  42. bigblue091812
    10:25 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    When Andrew had the 360 layup in the second half no one touch him. When Smith drove in and got a plus one Hawkins was 1 1/2 from him, they miss them both ways. They missed Randle being pushed into the lane, them missed Smith walking on 2 different plays, they also missed Smith triping Aaron at mid-court. You take away the 6 fouls they committed at the end to send us to the line and the fouls are even. If Rick had inside players he may have won, if his two superstar guards didn’t go 14-33 from the field, if they weren’t out rebounded by 8, or had 3 more turnovers than the CATS he may have won. Now, if they had called the 11 fouls on UL they didn’t he made have had to play Kevin Ware. He has no one to blame but himself and the Big East for all the games ending in scores like 41-36 because of the hacking, mugging, triping and assualt being done in a non contact sport. I’m sorry they didn’t do this last year, this way LOSERVILLE wouldn’t have won #3. How come SLICK RICK had nothing to say about officials when Witcha State got screwed in the final foul when with 2 big east refs calling that game only called 1 foul on his team in the last 8:43 of the game. So shut the hell up you scum bag, whose fault will it be when you get swept by UCONN and Memphis this year to give you 6 losses and maybe a couple more if they have anyone in that weak ass conference with any decent inside players. Rick, your not young enough to end up with a winning record against Coach Cal in the UK-UL series. By the time you 65 it’s going to be maybe 9-1 or 10-1. Go have 15 seconds at the White Castle then straight to bed you old bitter LOSERVILLE TURD.

  43. FirstPost
    10:30 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    My whole thing is Rick’s players are use to fouling the hell out of everyone and getting by with what they can. With the new rules they should’ve benn a foul basically every time we had the damn ball. So when some fouls were called, yeah maybe not as bad as the others. Either damn way the refs let them hack us all game and let a lot of them slide according to the new rules

    • Blut To The Bone...
      10:43 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      Absoulutely!!!!….They could have fouled out half their team in the last 3-5 minutes if they had called all the fouls they committed plus the walking call so easily seen by everybody in Rupp but the officials..

  44. LA
    10:31 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    the flat bills and line beards need to stop complaining. they lost because they got beat by a freshman dominated team. bend your bills and fill out your beards and get with normal society.

  45. 49 Chevy
    10:40 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Some of the comments on tard chronicle about the fans at Rupp idiotic. A couple of them even claim to have switched allegiance to the Tards because of it. That is rich and whoever actually believes that, stand on your head.

  46. [email protected]
    10:40 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink


    #1. PFs: 25 on UL 19 on UK. At least 4 UL fouls were called late when they put UK on the line. Take out the late fouls then were are around 21-19.
    #2. Foul Shot: UK 30 – UL 22. Again, about 8 shots were taken by UK at the end when UL was trying to get back in the game. free throws were about even.
    #3. There were at least 2 Russ Smith walks that were no calls. Even CBS announcers pointed this out so this should cancel out the two palming calls if they want to whine about that.
    #4. James Young was floored by Behennan on one 3 attempt in first half. No Call.

    You can blame the refs if one team shoots 50 free throws vs 0 for the other team. This is very weak Loserville. Also, the home team will always get the benefit of the doubt on calls. It is the Ex factor. UNC got those calls when we went to UNC. UL gets those calls at the YAM center. It is expected.

    • UKHowell84
      11:04 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      I disagree with the home team getting the calls in respect to the Cats. We always get jobbed. Russ Smith was “fouled” on run outs, yet our guards couldn’t get a call going to the basket. The two travels were horrendous, and we usually draw Greene or Doug Shows as officials and they both hate Cal and can’t wait to T him up.

  47. Jaybird
    10:46 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    By his “they do it in the NBA” reasoning, what would he say if coach P & his team walked off the floor as soon as the game was over? They don’t line up & shake hands in the NBA. Would that not be a huge story if they hadn’t shaken UK’s hands? Better yet, what would all the UofL media guys say if Cal & his team had walked off without shaking hands last year in the “Yam Center”? It’s such a flawed attempt at covering up for a D-bag coach that it’s actually funny. The more they all cry about losing, the happier I get, because it shows just how painful it is to them. I love that it bothers them to no end. The last 1.5 years as a UK fan have been miserable & they’ve excelled. They never missed an opportunity to take digs at us or Cal, so let em cry!

  48. UKdoesntcomplainaboutrefs
    10:49 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    You act like UK never complains about officiating..

    • FatJohn
      11:21 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      UL wrote that? Freelance writers who are independent dont count. Think everything Matt Jones, Duke graduate, is written by UK?

  49. UKdoesntcomplainaboutrefs
    10:51 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Also do you UK fans realize this Matt Jones went to Duke Law School? Seems like you all would take issue to that being all BBN and all. Congrats on the cheapest and shallowest program. Must be fun watching these visitors, i mean players for 6 months.

    • FatChevy69
      11:35 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      Haha figures. And Chevy sucks btw.

    • 49 Chevy
      11:41 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      ^^^^Cute. Now go back to tard chronicle and brag about your new vagina piercing.

  50. bigblue091812
    10:52 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    Learn to play Basketball instead of Hackball Rick. Your team got away with many fouls, walks and at least twice players should have gotten T’s for the comments and jestures toward officials. Take your beat down, sorry we’re not the same as the teams you’ve played all year, you’ve played 2 legit teams all year and got your asses handed to you. Maybe if Chane had gotten high before the game he may have helped. If Noel doesn’t get dragged to the floor and then called for walking in last years game in the CHICKEN BUCKET your championship teams loses to one bad UK team. So shut up and be a man for the first time in the last 15 years. I’m sure you were scared it may last longer than 15 seconds stud puppy.

  51. ricky j
    10:59 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    ole ricky 3 stacks what a miserable horny fella

  52. little dicky pitino
    11:01 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    which resturant did he take a skank to in lex?????

  53. Jaybird
    11:04 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    On a different topic, did anyone besides me find it ironic that during Pitino’s “Men of March” they filmed the segment with him & his wife together at a restaurant table? I thought he reserved that special place for his skank mistresses?

    • duh
      11:22 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      Also, did you notice when he was doing the book signing, the woman’s name was “Karen”…I laughed out loud at the irony of that.

    • 49 Chevy
      11:39 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      Maybe you should tell your brethren(and yourself) not to get to excited about a 7 point loss. Seems most of the childish behavior is coming from the smelly red side.

    • smellyRed
      12:21 am January 1, 2014 Permalink

      I wouldn’t get too excited about a 7 point win, after a layoff, on your home court in a pre-conference essentially meaningless game. Between Louisville’s 2 games on Saturday, I’ll take the post-season bowl win against a former top 7 football team over the basketball game any day, mainly because it was, you know, post season.

  54. Skeps
    11:14 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    How in the world can you call McLean neutral?

    • Oohlala
      11:42 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      I’ll give it that Mclean is honest with his opinion. He did pick us to win after all. But whenever he says something positive about us he always adds that he is not a UK fan and also throws in a shot at Cal, the players or BBN. He said that all UK fans find a way to make a loss a positive thing. I was on Card Chronicle and read many posts about how UL would learn from this game and suddenly it was an inconsequential regular season game. Ive been listening for weeks to UL fans bragging about how they were going to kick our a$$. And they have the gall to call Rupp Arena Russ Arena. Just proves they all wish they were UK. UL controls the Yam Center lease and they are bankrupting it. Soon they will be playing their games at Male Highs gym.

    • Ukbradstith
      1:34 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      Because he is. Next to ksr, sports talk 84 is my favorite show, and never once has lach leaned one way or the other. He has problems with both coaches and fan bases, but he’s not from here. Anyway, just telling it like it is.

  55. Tosia
    11:36 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    I think that sorry fans and the media, turn a basketball game into too much. Ok UK won hands down but all this petty talk about UofL fans complaining. Wow fans for every dag on team out there complains about something so please stop acting as if you don’t. I work around UK, UofL, Duke, Florida, North Carolina fans etc etc. I hear complaining from everyone when they take a loss or when their team does anything wrong. It should be a friendly rivalry or just a game but some people go way to far. Louisville fans have been complaining about the Refs but heard alot of UK fans complaining about the refs at the North Carolina game. All fans stop being so one sided. I’m a Cards fan but that loss to UK is not the end of us. Let’s pick up our faces and pride and watch “OUR” team grow from that loss. Go Cards!!!

    • 49 Chevy
      11:49 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

      Wrong website.

    • JC
      12:00 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      From a loser. You shouldn’t watch sports or talk outloud.

    • JHA
      9:23 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      I am fortunate to live in a part of the United States where there are no CARD fans. UL is not on anyone’s mind. I like it like that.

  56. Joe Zillmer
    11:42 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    The absolute vitriol that Ky fans have against Pitino amazes me. He turned the program back to rarefied air at UK. His leaving obviously was unforgivable. If Rick stays, goes to the podium he would be criticized for his answers. This is a no win situation for Pitino. Ky played its best game of the year on Saturday, and their ability to maintain that discipline and effort will be key to their future fortunes in the NCAA. Louisville has no interior presence right now, and Behanen has been as inconsistent as his freshman year. Louisville will be fine come tournament time, Ky…well, we will have to see. This game was much more important to Kentucky than it was for Louisville. No excuses, ‘Ville got beat, executed poorly, and shots did not fall. March will be here soon enough.

    • JHA
      9:28 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      All of the vitriol directed towards Pitino is self inflicted. Even his wife loathes him. He has to have a Catholic priest follow him around to keep away evil spirits. The man is no good, as a human being and UK is much better off paying him no attention. His jersey should be removed from Rupp’s Rafters on moral grounds.

  57. CardFan
    11:55 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    What is with people on this site and their name-calling ? Can’t you have a debate with fans of Louisville without resorting to phrases like “smelly red”, “Tard Chronicle” (extremely offensive for obvious reasons), “dirty birds”, and on and on. What happened to respect ? You even slander the name of the damn building we play in. That’s pretty pathetic. I agree with Tosia. What happened to civility ? Nothing wrong with having a rivalry and kidding around, but for crying out loud, stop drinking the Matt Jones KoolAid of Hate. (And yes that is what he is spewing, as he did prior to the game with his big “I hate Louisville” production).

    • JC
      12:12 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      Shut up. You have no higher ground. You are just whining like the rest Your coach kills babies, president lies, and athletic director tries to destroy those that disagree with him. The Yam center is killing the city of Louisville. To not acknowledge that is ignorant.

    • Karamaisab
      6:11 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      Wow nice comeback JC. I feel so sorry for people like you (and there are those like you on both sides). Really showing your intellectual age.

      Keep trying Cardfan. Good post. Hopefully someday fans will become at least civil with each other.

    • JHA
      9:31 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      Card Fan, why don’t you and your fellow fans start a movement to remove Pitino’s name from Rupp’s Rafters? Why would you want your precious coach to have a place of honor at your hated rival’s arena? Do us all a favor.

    • Karmaisab
      9:44 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      JHA, do you actually read anything. Where did Card Fan say anthing about a “hated rival”, His point was to stop the senseless “hate” speak.

  58. monkeyassfans
    11:56 pm December 29, 2013 Permalink

    These silly small minded people on here. I don’t cheer for either team but to talk about Rick’s personal life. It’s real childish, what secrets are you hiding. I live in Frankfort and I see & hear stupid stuff on both sides. Both teams have players who get in trouble, chane on ul team and all those 4 players on uks football team.Look at the bigger picture this is the only state that has back to back ships. louisville has a top arena, kentucky is building a top arena. Both programs have alot going for them for different reasons but louisville and kentucky fans are too blind & too stupid to see that. get a freaking life………..

    • JC
      12:09 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      The president of the Univeristy does what the the BB coach, the Athletic director doest and lies only to get caught. And BTW he is a horrible human and worse tipper.

  59. timer
    12:18 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

    UK did a lot more for Petino than he ever did for UK.

    As far as getting the program back to “rarefied air” Coach Cal took over the program when it was in much worse shape than it was when Petino was hired. He brought us back the first year.

    Petino is an embarassment for the Commonwealth, the city of Louisville and college basketball. I’m glad he wasn’t associated with UK when his indiscretions were made public.

    Our players are getting better each and every game. They are young and it takes time to learn the college game and learn how to play together as a team. We will be much better in March than we were on Saturday.

    And we beat you on Saturday.

  60. CardFan
    12:20 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

    Bravo, JC. You really have a way with words, man. I’m sure the blue nation is proud to have you as a spokesman.

    • sammydog
      11:20 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      CardFan, you should go to a Sea of Blue for the fan interaction you are looking for. There was very good discussion between Card&Cat fans after the game on that board. It is a more serious board that I suspect draws an older more informed and more reasonable fan base who knows the history of both programs. There is some good natured ribbing but little if any trash talking…more thoughtful analysis of the games. This board is what it says it is…UK sports brought to you in the most ridiculous manner possible. It is designed to be provocative and appeals more to the younger fan base with “frat boy” humor. It also provides an outlet for those who like to spew anger and insults. It is a good place to go for news and rumors as they are good at consolidating sports news and getting it out quickly. Every board has its personality. If you come here for anything else other than news, don’t read the comment section or take it seriously.

  61. Daniel
    12:34 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

    I thought the Aaron Harrison bit he told was cool though.. he seems like a nice, likeable kid.. I didn’t like the jab at the “haters” and media.. I thought that was not true

    • Karmaisab
      6:26 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      Hey Daniel, try checking his twitter posts on the “hating” stuff. He even posts pics of kids holding “we hate UL” signs with encouraging captions of “raising their kids right”. I think that is your proof.

  62. jimp
    12:56 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

    It is really fun to hear all these UL fans complain about the officials. I live in Louisville and for years they have said that every time UK loses a game they always blame it on the referees and make fun of UK fans for doing it. When Pitino was coaching at UK it was constant bitching by UL fans that UK players fouled, grabbed and held the whole game and it was not called. UL plays the same defense Pitino had at UK and I have never heard them say anything about it now that he is their coach. As far as people spreading hate, it goes both ways. The UL call in shows here in Louisville are constantly spreading the hate toward UK, especially toward the UK fans. UL fans despised Pitino when he was at UK. Now they defend every thing he does, even the disgusting deal with Karen Sypher. I heard over and over from them that it was his personal business and everyone makes mistakes. If he had been still coaching at UK when that happened they would have crucified him. Just a bunch of hypocrites. Pitino has many times skipped news conferences after games he has lost. He has even skipped his post game radio show after some of their loses. I have a lot of respect for Bob Valvano but him trying to defend Pitino for doing that is to quote him “BULLSHIT.”

    • Dolph N. Hind
      8:25 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      Most Uavel fans are cry baby whores. If Pitino would have left Uavel first for the Pros and returned to College coaching at KENTUCKY, you can bet they’d be upset. Yet, their school whores themselves out for the sake of winning in all sports.

  63. Ukbradstith
    1:48 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

    I love Matt jones. I love tony v. Jason Anderson. Lachlan McLean. Bob v. TJ beisner. Mark krebs. Perrin Johnson. The list goes on and on. We have 3 (3!) sports talk stations in Louisville, plus 84 and 1080 that have sports talk, and CN2 sports. I’m a huge cats fan, but it would be very boring without opposing view points. We are just really lucky to have so much variety on the airwaves, and top to bottom this is the most talent we have ever had on the local airwaves.

  64. John
    7:23 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

    Lets be honest…have you ever watched a UK game with family, friends or strangers and not heard some idiot complain about the refs constantly and yell “foul” or “walk” every time the other team comes down the court? C’mon people…our fan base is one of the worst when it comes to this…call it passion or stupidity, lets quit acting like we are higher than thou all the time.

    • JHA
      9:37 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      John, of course we as fans are going to complain about refs but Pitino opened this can of worms. He brought the issue up. Once he puts that on the table, what do you expect UK fans are going to do with it, especially when the media fan the fire?

  65. John
    9:58 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

    JHA, I absolutely see your point…Rick whined publicly about the officials and opened the can of worms. Im simply saying the vast manority of fans, coaches, and players whine about officiating at some point. I’d much rather hear a coach voice their frustration than a fan or player. Rick isn’t the first or last coach to do this…on any level, from a ridiculous Dad coaching his 6 yr old girls soccer game to the big leagues. Bottom line, From the time I left the game Sat to now, all you hear from fans is “did you hear pitino skip the media conference and complain about the refs favoring UK?” Yep, sure did…guess what, who gives a sh*t. He said what our fanbase says after every loss we take. Tired of the blind stupidity I guess.

  66. dustyblues77
    10:31 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

    I thought Kentucky’s size advantage drew a lot of the fouls. I went back to watch the game and I am not trying to be bias but a lot of the bad calls were against Kentucky. There was a play in the second half where Willie goes to swipe the ball from Russ Smith. Willie does not tough him with the swipe/deflection or hits him with the body. The ball bounces off smiths body and feet.
    Russ Smith goes up for a basket in transition and they call Hawkins who did not even touch him. They called Hawkins later in the game on a play where he did not touch the player for the second time but was called for the foul. The three point attempt by Young in the corner was not a foul on behanan. That was good defense on his part. The Cards’ style is to play aggressive but they had to be intense to make up for their lack of size.

  67. don
    10:44 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

    Ok Valvono is correct the refs did not lose the game but it did change the complexity early on. we lost because we played bad but as usual you are living in the past why are you bringing up Noel who’s no longer there you are talking about history again guys. Live in the day not in the past. You won quit whining about last year.

    • UKHowell84
      11:08 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

      Speaking out against what is wrong isn’t whining, it is stating a fact. UL getting away with murder last year was pathetic and not basketball. Same goes for the Puke shot in 92. Laettner shouldn’t haven’t even been in the game after stomping on Timberlake. If it is wrong, it needs to be pointed out. It can’t be changed, but that doesn’t make it right.

  68. UKHowell84
    11:08 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

    shouldn’t HAVE*

  69. Martin Makel
    11:16 am December 30, 2013 Permalink

    neither a UK or Louisville plan, just like to watch good basketball.

    In any other game I’ve watched this year, Randall would have fouled out in the first 10 minutes.

  70. Moonshine Robb
    1:13 pm December 30, 2013 Permalink

    Matt Jones may be a C lister to U of Smell fans but if you take time from your day try and bring a winner down you’re probably emailing from your moms basement…. See you at the GCC Member/Guest Mr. Jones!!!

  71. Ignorance is Bliss (and red)
    1:40 pm December 30, 2013 Permalink

    Martin Makel, you’ve spent your whole CBB season so far watching pee wee games, because that was the most idiotic thing I have read on this board…and THAT is saying something.

  72. UKkathy
    2:10 pm December 30, 2013 Permalink

    No matter how your slice it, UK won! And that other team LOST! Period. And Matt Jones is the BEST of the BEST. Live with it. If I didn’t like something or someone, I would pay no attention to it/them. Hummmmm, certain people who profess to hate him must listen; thus the complaints. Just hypocritical bozos. They do tend to make me laugh, however. Keep of the great work and GO CATS!

  73. Dallas Poynter
    7:38 pm December 30, 2013 Permalink

    Look, it was a great game. Someone will lose and someone will win. The ref’s called a good game. Do they miss calls sometimes, of course they did and they always do. Having said that UK won it out right no help from the ref’s that is just a case of sour grapes from the Louisville fans. I am from Louisville, however I do pull for UK. I pull for both the teams when they don’t play each other. It’s kind of nice being here in California and being able to cheer for the two best basketball programs in the nation. None the less, UK won it plain and simple no help from anyone but just hard work and team play.

    So UL fans take it like a man and stop blaming others for the Cards loss. It happens, on any given day the very worst team can beat the very best team.

  74. wvcatfan
    10:44 am December 31, 2013 Permalink

    What a joke! UL fans just need to put their tails between their legs like a whipped puppy and shut-up!!
    I get sick of fans crying and making excuses why their team lost!!!! CRY BABIES!