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KSR Film Room: Someone please explain these fouls

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Like many of you, I disagreed with about 49 of the 52 fouls called in Tuesday night’s game at Mississippi State. The officiating was consistently abominable on both ends, which took big men from both teams completely out of the game

So in this week’s return of KSR Film Room — back by popular demand! — I’ll highlight three plays that really stood out to me as horrible whistles. There were plenty more crap-calls than these three, but I’m only one man and can’t possibly highlight every mistake Tuesday night’s crew made. These are only three of the many.

 

Let’s start with Bam Adebayo’s second foul that sent him to the bench seven minutes into the game. Adebayo made what looks like to me was a textbook boxout for a defensive rebound, but the officials saw a foul.

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Take a closer look and tell me with a straight face that should be Foul No. 2 on Adebayo.

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As a friend said to me after that call, that’s the kind of B.S. whistle that could cost Kentucky a national championship via foul trouble.

Now let’s move on to Isaac Humphries’ first of his five fouls. Another terrible call, it was followed up by yet another foul on Humphries only 14 seconds later, which sent Kentucky’s second big man to the bench for the remainder of the half.

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This is not a foul.

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Should we continue? We should continue.

Down to Tai Waynyard and Derek Willis defending the paint and still in the first half, Willis picked up his second foul on an off-ball screen that was a completely legal play in James Naismith’s eyes. It was equally bad as Willis’ first foul and it marked the ELEVENTH foul on a UK forward/center in the first half.

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Hey TV Teddy, this isn’t a foul…

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I could go on and on and on but I think you all get the point. Tuesday night’s officiating was as bad as it gets.

Article written by Drew Franklin

I can recite every line from Forrest Gump, blindfolded. Follow me on Twitter: @DrewFranklinKSR

28 Comments for KSR Film Room: Someone please explain these fouls



  1. Rixter
    7:36 pm January 18, 2017 Permalink

    I can only assume this group recently heard the term ‘illegal screen’, and assumed that screens are illegal. They called a foul on each screen set by either team last night.



  2. Delk for 3
    7:52 pm January 18, 2017 Permalink

    Bam’s foul is given based on displacement. “Old fashioned box out” is not always legal anymore, especially when the boxer out is displacing the other player. A player has a right to the space in which he stands and should not be pushed from that space in any way. That’s a tough call on Bam, but it is more understandable when you consider that referees are looking at in terms of displacement. Bam also hurts his case a bit as he gets close to up-rooting the other player on the block out.

    On the Humphries foul, I’m not really seeing it. That stated, I do not see the opposing player’s right arm and how it reacted when Humphries reaches in front of the player. I will not judge the ref on this call because I cannot see the angle he is calling it from.

    On the third foul presented, Willis is called for the foul because he screens the unsuspecting defender without giving him the required one full step. You cannot screen a back-peddling defender without giving him the space of one full step. That call is not that bad, but it is certainly one that frustrates fans when you are making 50+ calls on the night.



    • 4everblue
      5:57 am January 19, 2017 Permalink

      TD in the house! One of my favorite UK players of all time.



  3. ClutchCargo
    8:36 pm January 18, 2017 Permalink

    Of those 3 examples, only the one on Humphries was actually a bad call according to the rules. Bam’s was borderline, and was a result of the other guy not being as strong and able to hold his ground. That said, there was a ton of blown calls last night.



    • WeareBBN
      8:56 pm January 18, 2017 Permalink

      Nice to see you and Delk as reasonable fans. Most of BBN just gripes about refs with little knowledge of what is actually a foul. Every loss for us the last 2 years was only because of refs, even our wins are not by enough points because of refs. It really makes BBN look bad. I agree totally on the Bam and Willis fouls, and need to see the other side on the Humphreys foul. I do know when I did officiate, just High School level, if it was minor like the Bam play I would let them play, both ways. Willis foul I would have called. Bricksoe kept griping all night and his were easy calls, the charge especially. Just shut up and play basketball guys, you will earn more respect by the fans and the refs if you do that.



    • bluekr25
      9:33 pm January 18, 2017 Permalink

      Yeah, but the problem is how many off ball fouls they called too. Has anyone watched a football game…there could be a hold called on every play, but there isnt…play on. This is ruining the game…the ole miss/UT game had even more fouL’s. Refs seem to only be able to see in extremes..it’s either let them kill each other or call everything a foul. Last night they controlled the pace and flow…not a refs job. I know they tried to clean the game up with freedom of movement, etc. Which is great…except kids are giving room now, staying straight up, trying to avoid contact…yet there they are, calling even more strenuous fouls..as opposed to just calling what their focus to change was. Let players win games…Valentine is not needed. He can’t keep up and is out of position on several calls. It’s always funny when referees make calls they can justify them, but if they miss one…they are no where to be found and are above ever bring questioned about their performange. A complete good ole boy network.



    • Luether
      2:22 am January 19, 2017 Permalink

      High school officiating is the best in the country…



  4. The Goose Is Loose
    9:07 pm January 18, 2017 Permalink

    I’m not saying UK got screwed. I think both teams got terrible calls. You could make a video for MSU also. If you are going to call those fouls on Bam and Isaac you could call a foul on just about every trip down the court (which they did). Willis was probably a foul but how many fouls were called off the ball? Just let them play on.



  5. bige
    11:23 pm January 18, 2017 Permalink

    It’s unwatchable and almost as bad as football…ESPN is also unwatchable so I just wait for KSR’s highlights.



  6. bige
    11:24 pm January 18, 2017 Permalink

    College refs control the game way too much and would love to know how many outcomes they have altered.
    I don’t watch anymore so it doesn’t matter.



  7. jonthes
    11:32 pm January 18, 2017 Permalink

    Proof that referees should be drug-tested before games.



  8. WallBreaksAnkles
    11:53 pm January 18, 2017 Permalink

    Vegas baby, Vegas. Cats were burning it up ATS on Vegas and now they want to balance the scales to get their money back, Vegas has taken some of the worst losses every over the last few weeks so why not bet on one of the largest betting teams in the nation. Cats should of won by 25+, Miss st is garbage, refs blowing whistles all night kept this one within the magic number 14 with ease.



    • EdC
      8:43 am January 19, 2017 Permalink

      That’s not how Vegas works AT ALL. “Vegas” just wants action. They offset all bets for Kentucky with someone who bets for the other team and collects the vig. That is why the odds keep changing all the time. The math whizzes move the odds to make sure bets offset. Vegas makes their calculated profit on pretty much everything unless some huge bet is taken very late that can’t be offset.



    • ukcamel
      9:11 am January 19, 2017 Permalink

      EdC, that is not entirely true. Vegas does try to set the line so that about half of the public money goes to each side. But they can’t always do this because at some point professional money would come in on a line that is too far one way or the other. So typically they will only set the line a point or two from the algorithmic expected score. It still essentially works the same, the number of games they “win” and “lose” evens out over time, and like you said they collect the vig regardless.



    • Darren the Intern
      11:15 am January 19, 2017 Permalink

      I don’t bet, but understand the concept of balancing public money and line movement. But wouldn’t the late arriving huge bet or professional money have potential influence over the outcome? What’s to prevent a MSST to cover bettor getting on the horn and letting the refs know they need a favor in exchange for piece of the action? To that extent, some of those errant entry pass turnovers to Bam in the second half looked kind of odd to me. As the replies above indicate, Vegas itself may not have an influence, but the betting culture represented by Vegas could very possibly have an influence way deeper than anybody suspects.



  9. david8577
    11:54 pm January 18, 2017 Permalink

    Man I miss “old school” basketball.



  10. IstandUPatGames
    11:54 pm January 18, 2017 Permalink

    There are three refs in the SEC that are the worst offenders this year, especially. And they all love to get their mugs on the color television!

    We all know Camera Carl Hess…
    And TV Teddy valentine…
    But, tonight TV Teddy was on a crew calling the South Carolina game with the other one that needs to be fired… “Welcome to the Joe show” Lindsay! They called 55 fouls in that game!



    • RealCatsFan
      6:51 am January 19, 2017 Permalink

      Talk about unwatchable! Total brick and whistle fest. I thought that might be a good game, but I walked away from the TV out of boredom and disgust.



  11. kentuckyrld
    6:32 am January 19, 2017 Permalink

    Bam pushed the guy off with his right hand. It may not have been a particularly rough foul but it was a foul. The new rules are designed to keep the players from playing defense with their hands and to keep them from pushing off on offense. Eventually the players and coaches are going to understand and will adjust their games accordingly. It may take a few seasons but it will happen. I am obviously in the minority but I thought the officials did a fairly good job. Hopefully, the players will soon learn to keep their hands off the opponent and use their feet to stay between the opponent and the basket.



    • RealCatsFan
      9:57 am January 19, 2017 Permalink

      OK, fine, but take a look at the sequence with Isaac – his opponent did the exact same thing, and Humphries is the one with the foul. Absolutely NO WAY he could have fouled someone. Hell, he was fouled at least twice on that play.



  12. RealCatsFan
    6:49 am January 19, 2017 Permalink

    Drew should have mentioned the putback dunk by Bam late in the game when he almost had his head taken off by the MSU player with the ref looking right at him. No whistle.



  13. ukblue22
    7:30 am January 19, 2017 Permalink

    Same crew last night at Florida-South Carolina game had 54 whistles. I think the common thread here might be showing itself. At the end of the game the inconsistency became as big a problem as the foul calls. This crew is old and it’s showing. TV Teddy likes to play to the cameras.



  14. jzoneblue
    8:42 am January 19, 2017 Permalink

    will our more skilled players, they should excel in a close called game. as long as the refs are calling both sides fairly. our speed and agility should allow us to guard without fouling as much. and they being slower and weaker will foul more, thus we should be at the line much more.



    • ukcamel
      9:14 am January 19, 2017 Permalink

      The problem is that refs try to “even out” the fouls, especially if the home team has more.



  15. chrisg18
    8:51 am January 19, 2017 Permalink

    You guys are nuts if you think those are good calls. Absolutely ridiculous. One of the most frustrating things as a coach is when your player does exactly what you coach him to do, like Bam using a textbook box out for a rebound, but the referee penalizes the player. Huge negative impact on coaching. The only one that is debatable is Willis, and only by rule because that kind of screen is probably set on just about every single possession. There is a difference between officiating any sport “by the book” or through common sense and reality. This kind of officiating shows a really poor knowledge of the game. As do some of the comments here.



    • runningunnin.454
      9:53 am January 19, 2017 Permalink

      Agree; the officials are ruining the game; and some of the comments here that embrace the refs’ controlling the pace and flow of the game are ridiculous.
      Basketball is a contact sport; referees have to understand that or they can call a foul every time the players bump.
      One of my favorite gripes is when a player beats his man, gets behind the defense, and has a lay up, and the ref makes a theatric foul call “on the floor”. I would never reward the defense with that.



  16. theWilkman
    9:53 am January 19, 2017 Permalink

    I don’t care how many high school basketball games you have called, if you think that game was officiated correctly you are wrong.



  17. RC
    10:08 am January 19, 2017 Permalink

    The player that Willis screens takes one step backwards before running into him. That was a crappy call.

    Bam’s box out looks good to me. The ball was bouncing hard off the rim right into his hands. If he stayed under the rim and didn’t make contact with the MSU player, the ball flies over his head. How can you rebound the ball if you don’t go get it? Another crap call.

    The Humphries foul call is pathetic. Simply a phantom call. Garbage.

    Biggest question I have from here- how do we fix this?