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KenPom’s No. 4 and 5 teams to play in the second round tomorrow because that makes sense

Tomorrow’s No. 2/10 matchup in the South region may be the greatest second-rounder of all time if you take into account Ken Pomeroy’s rankings.

In KenPom’s new update following yesterday’s slate of games, Kentucky ranks fourth and Wichita State ranks fifth OVERALL.


That doesn’t seem right.

Article written by Drew Franklin

I can recite every line from Forrest Gump, blindfolded. Follow me on Twitter: @DrewFranklinKSR

11 Comments for KenPom’s No. 4 and 5 teams to play in the second round tomorrow because that makes sense

  1. Ridge Runner
    1:55 pm March 18, 2017 Permalink

    I hear ya Drew & yet another friggin example of this NCAA Committee approach to continuously mess with our seeding.

    • Ridge Runner
      1:59 pm March 18, 2017 Permalink

      Meant to add the word “placement” at the end of the sentence but y’all knew what the point was.

    • runningunnin.454
      2:15 pm March 18, 2017 Permalink

      Yep, the point is the NCAA Selection Committee SUX.

    • Ridge Runner
      2:23 pm March 18, 2017 Permalink

      Bingo runnin’

      Changing gears a sec.. an ACC team going down in opening game today means there is goodness in the world

  2. BlueDeuce
    2:34 pm March 18, 2017 Permalink

    While I generally use KenPom for comparisons, you have to remember Wichita St compiled their number in a weak conference. Much like Gonzaga and to an extent, Villanova (4 Big East teams are out already). Not saying the SEC is a powerhouse but it is better than MVC.

    How many MVC teams are in the NCAAs? How many from the SEC (4-1 too BTW).

    UK should win this game and even cover the spread plus some.

    • runningunnin.454
      2:42 pm March 18, 2017 Permalink

      Right, and Wichita State lost to Michigan State early in the season about the same time we beat Izzo’s team by 21.

  3. Cals Hoverboard
    2:44 pm March 18, 2017 Permalink

    Makes perfect sense, given the track record of the Selection Committee. So many things have to be considered. They initially have to rank the teams 1 through 68 and that should be the most straight forward part of their process. Then they have to weigh in the geography, the conflicts of playing teams from their own conference, and all the other considerations and stipulations before they start the “scrubbing” process and placing teams in regions. It’s all voodoo and alchemy in the public’s eyes and , for the most part, it is. But if you can’t get the initial “ranking” of the teams correct, it magnifies the problems when they go to the later steps of getting the bracket together. Obviously they crapped the bed when they ranked Wichita State. And when they realized it, they probably just said, “Oh well, let’s not worry about it, we can just throw them in there with Kentucky for a juicy matchup that everyone (except the teams) will just absolutely slobber over! Remember that matchup 3 years ago?” After all, they screwed it up then so why not do it again since it sold a lot of commercials, tickets, and news. 2 wrongs make a right !

  4. jayiron11
    3:55 pm March 18, 2017 Permalink

    How about the fact that Duke is the ONLY 2 Seed who played before their potential 2nd round oppoment. All other 2 Seeds played after their second round foe was already identified. The lower Seed should always play before the higher seed. In the SEC Tournament for example, Kentucky always played before their potential opponent in the next round.
    Got to win the games. But, this is just another example of preferential treatment for Duke and Coach K. It ends up being only 2-3 hours additional rest, but why is Duke the only 2 seed to get this advantage?

  5. WeareBBN
    5:37 pm March 18, 2017 Permalink

    People give it a rest. Our fans are griping about having to play Wichita ST, a team that has Vandy as their best win. I said at least we are not Loserville and have to play Mich, or a one seed Nova playing Wisc, or a one seed Kansas getting MSU. I will take WS any day over those others. It was the refs fault, they broke into the NCAA Selection Meeting and changed game times and seeds. Wichita St is not that good, I guess Dayton should be about 10th and NKU should be top 20, we only won by 9. Is easy to build a strong record in a bad conference. Heck we did it, you think we are 30–5 right now if we played in the ACC, Big 10 or Big 12, not even close. By the way the game last night was just as late for NKU as it was us, yet they had no trouble playing hard and competing for 40 minutes.

    • mostdiggity
      8:03 pm March 18, 2017 Permalink

      WeareBBN- While I agree with much of what you said there are issues with the selection/seeding process and they need to hear our voices, or feel the pain with loss of our dollars. For example, on Thursday morning of Championship Weekend, Duke was a weak 4 seed. saturday night there were ridiculous claims that they deserved a one-seed. This could not happen as the 4 1-seeds were already “locked” according to the NCAA. Locked? WTF… does that say?

      It says conference tournaments, unless you are in the ACC are meaningless and even the ACC tourney means only so much. Yes, but Duke (who lost 3 of 4 of their regular season was “hot”. They moved to a 2 seed. Was Michigan “hot”? Was Kentucky “hot”? Was Arizona hot? Iowa State? They all won their tournaments without moving a line.

      And then, how about Kansas and/or North Carolina? Apparently teams can now be rewarded by losing early in their conference tournament. I’m sure Bill Self & Company didn’t mind having the extra rest knowing they were “locked” as 1-seeds, even if they did lose to TCU (who Auburn beat by 8 @ TCU). The NCAA is making a mockery of everyone who plays in the tournament, except the vaunted ACC. Did Carolina or Duke draw tough roads to the finals? NO. Why?

      Because the tournament is becoming a farce and a “made for TV special”. This year they really NEED it to be Duke-UNC in the final game. They’ve done all they could, and of course it might not happen. At least the teams still have to show up and play.

  6. Capt. Ragnar
    8:40 pm March 18, 2017 Permalink

    Let Vegas seed the tournament. Let the committee set the bottom 48 after the top 16 pick their own region.