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Ja Morant calls on Kentucky judge to remove Confederate statue in downtown Murray

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Former Murray State star Ja Morant has called on a Kentucky judge to remove a statue of Robert E. Lee in downtown Murray. Morant’s letter comes in the wake of a Jefferson Davis statue removed from the Capitol rotunda in Frankfort on Saturday.

Morant led Murray State to an OVC conference championship, cinching his place as the second overall pick in the 2019 NBA Draft. Morant currently plays for the Memphis Grizzlies.

In the letter addressed to the judge in Calloway County, Morant speaks positively of his time at Murray State, saying he is “extremely proud” and “honored” to have been part of the program, but calls upon the removal of the statue from a place he feels is his “second home”.

The statue has stood in front of the Calloway County courthouse since its erection in 1917.

Morant refers to the recent Black Lives Matter protests as a starting point to begin initiating change in communities such as Murray.

Morant is joined by Murray State assistant football coach Sherman Neal II in his efforts to remove the statue, who wrote a letter to Murray’s mayor on June 3rd asking for the statue’s swift removal.

Morant is expected to return with the Grizzlies to the 2020 NBA playoffs in Orlando later this summer.

Article written by Abbigale Harrison

Covering KY news from DC. This should be fun. Twitter: @theabbiharrison

78 Comments for Ja Morant calls on Kentucky judge to remove Confederate statue in downtown Murray



  1. crazycatfan65
    2:06 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

    Time to rename and remove everything that is named after a famous person. No statues, streets, highways or building named after any person, white, black, red yellow, green or purple. Do away with all of them. Then noone will have a reason to be upset anymore.



    • nocode96
      3:18 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      Or, ya know, let’s get rid of the statues to racist people. What a notion huh? Pokémon has lasted longer than the confederacy. The confederacy lost and now people want to act like they’re so important to our history. They were the textbook definition of traitors and now all these flag lovers that lost their minds over athletes kneeling want to support a bunch of traitors? I’m having a really hard time understanding that one. The only X factor to throw in there that makes sense is to assume that all these people are just racist. Could it be?



    • satcheluk
      3:39 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      Indeed nocode.



    • jack8291
      3:43 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      Muhammad Ali was a devout separatist, especially early in life . I’ve never understood naming stuff for him .



    • Cousins Fake Tooth
      4:38 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      In the words of Lt Col. Allen West on Confederate monuments: History is not there for you to like or dislike.



    • mcp157
      5:19 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      Easy to call people from the South traitors, now! You have to realize the mindset back then. Your state was your country. People from this age have no clue what it was like to be a Southerner than. Was slavery wrong? Absolutely! But remember the same president, Lincoln, who used the slavery issue to make the federal government dominate the states, by winning the Civil war, thought the black man would never be equal to the white man and pushed for the nation of Liberia in Africa so all the blacks could be shipped back. If the Union army leaders, like Sherman, were such compassionate loving men why did they begin the genocide of the Indian just after the Civivl War was finished? The main reason the Civil War was fought by Washington, D.C., was for control of the states, not out of love and kindness to the black man. The Union government used an emotional issue like slavery, to get the conman man to fight the war, to get what it wanted, control of the South! Just like Remember the Maine, Pearl Harbor and 9/11 people need something emotional to die for.



  2. 4everUKBlue
    2:45 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

    Imagine the sh!tstorm Native Americans could cause. Anyone remember what happened to them beginning with Columbus discovering America? Whole lot of history to destroy there.



    • nocode96
      3:19 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      You are right. The natives absolutely should be losing their minds. Any person or group of people that have been wronged by centuries of injustice in this country should be pissed.



    • TPACAT
      12:55 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

      Guess I should go burn down my country as justified by my Irish heritage then, huh, nocode? Where does it end? EVERY race/ethnicity was subjugated by another throughout the course of history. Look it up, since they don’t actually teach history anymore (“Ethnic Studies” and “Social Justice” classes have become the new “Underwater Basket Weaving”)…



    • TonyMontana
      3:19 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      If only we had some sort of ink and parchment type sheets to write words on to tell stories of this history thing you speak. Maybe even compile all of the papers into a binder type device. A “book” of history if you will. Perhaps in the future there might exist a magic box where we can store all of the history forever digitally… But alas, no such thing exists. So for now, we must defend the statues for they have 1 sentence upon them which totally accurately depicts all of history.



    • TPACAT
      12:59 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

      I agree with the parchment sheets concept. In the future you will only be able to rely on books because “digital” history (like votes) can be changed by the powers that oversee the digital platform. We see it now with Facebook, Twitter, et al…



    • 4everUKBlue
      3:41 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      That you Scarecrow? If you only had a brain…



    • satcheluk
      3:42 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      Which is why they oppose slang and caricatured references of their culture used by us. We owe them even more.



    • TPACAT
      1:02 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

      WE don’t owe them anything. Because WE didn’t do anything to them. Do you think it justified to make one pay for the sins of their father? That’s not how America works, satchel…



    • satcheluk
      10:53 am June 16, 2020 Permalink

      Individually no. Societally, yes.



    • satcheluk
      11:16 am June 16, 2020 Permalink

      I wanted to add: America participated in the illegal kidnapping and forced relocation and enslavement of their ancestors. They were treated as chattel for generations and families ripped apart and even after they were “freed”, they were not afforded the opportunity to vote, own property or get educated, thus denied the opportunity to acquire generational wealth. Then things got marginally better, but they still endure lynchings, poor education/healthcare and even access to vote for another 100 years. So if any white man claims we don’t owe them a hand up to our level, then I’d say that person is an ignorant SOB with no soul.



  3. Cats79
    3:40 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

    Am all for equal rights , but when you tear down history that made this country great is another thing that bothers me. The main problem the schools just don’t teach history anymore. The teaching method has gotten away from the basics of how great this country became.



    • 4everUKBlue
      3:43 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      And there you have it. It’s amazing how little history younger generations know, even more recent than the civil war.



    • KaliforniaKat
      4:16 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      Cats79… you’re a complete idiot if you think robbing, murdering, and raping made this country great! Enjoy being completely ignorant



    • TPACAT
      1:04 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

      You need a class in American Exceptionalism, there Komrade…



    • Bluebloodtoo
      6:18 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

      The confederacy didn’t make this country great. They lost. How many other countries have statues honoring their losing civil war leaders?



    • IrishCat
      8:47 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

      When ppl who only know the white washed version of history scream about preserving history….



  4. UKFanSC
    3:47 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

    Well of course he wants it removed. He’s Ja Morant don’t forget.

    And rest assured there will be legions of race-shamed white politicians at the ready to do pretty much whatever he wants. They’ll be tripping over themselves to at least symbolically correct all social injustice with their magnanimous and very public gesture.

    The truly ironic thing about the overblown (and I predict short-lived) response to all this is that it will engender as much resentment as it does social progress. All the protesters will get to dress up in their BLM costumes for a couple weeks, then it’s back to resenting their bosses.

    People don’t like guilt force-fed down their throats by liberal media 24-7……in a few weeks “the other 85%” will say enough, things will revert, and nocode will lose his/her/ (or whatever new age personal pronoun applies) mind in the KSR comment section !



    • TPACAT
      1:11 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

      Correct, UKFanSC. In the end they will turn on the very whites who have supported their cause either through genuine compassion or through white-guilt brainwashing. It’s already begun. Whatever is done will never be “enough”…



  5. Wilfred Smith
    3:53 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

    I graduated from Murray State. I’ve been adjunct faculty for 25 years (I’m getting old).

    I didn’t know the statue existed.



  6. Han
    4:05 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

    The number of people who defend statues glorifying traitors who fought for the right to own other people…

    Especially statues that were put up long after the Civil War in order to intimidate blacks. Statues that were dedicated by Klansmen. Statues that do not reflect “what made America great.”

    If you find yourself defending statues of people who tried to destroy America in order to own other people, think long and hard about the “heritage” you’re trying to preserve.

    We don’t stop teaching history just because we take down statues. Especially statues to people who lost rebellions fought for an evil cause. (“States’ rights!”… to own other people.)



    • KaliforniaKat
      4:19 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      What Han said…



    • TPACAT
      1:13 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

      You two should get a room somewhere in another country that’s more “just” than this one and where you’ll obviously be much happier. After all, I just want you to be happy…



  7. The Blurr
    4:09 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

    In defense of slavery, the confederate army waged war against the United States of America. They killed many of our patriots. Consider the concept of slavery and dwell on this: If someone shackled you in chains, raped your wife and sold your children, just exactly where would you want their monument or statue built? The Jefferson Davis obelisk near Hopkinsville should come down. There is a reason that we don’t have monuments to General Tojo, Hitler, or Osama Bin Laden. The confederates have no place of honor in our society.



    • Cousins Fake Tooth
      4:39 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      Don’t like it, don’t look at it. Problem solved.



    • itsfootballtimeinthebluegrass
      4:59 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      I think you have mental issues



    • Cousins Fake Tooth
      4:39 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      You win for the dumbest comment i’ve seen today.



    • channell
      2:29 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

      History shows that through letters from the soldiers on both sides there is no evidence of either side that they were fighting for or against slavery. Actually the north had almost as many as the south so it would not make sense if the north was fighting to free slaves. We also know that only around 6 percent of the south owned slaves. So that poor farmer probably would not have dropped his plow and gone to fight so the rich southerners could keep slaves. It all comes down to states rights and what Lincoln did illegally to the southerners. Robert E Lee said if he owned all the slaves he would grant all them their freedom. He at first was offered the job as general over the northern armies before Grant. Lee out of as ignorance has been branded as a racist but he was actually loyal to his home state Virginia. He gave up all he owned in Virginia where now lies the National Cemetery outside of DC. There is so much falsehoods about slavery and succession. Schools no longer teach real American history. We have a nation of brainwashed young adults concerning history thanks to the false teaching or lack thereof teaching to our youth. So many believes a 170 years of lies. Leave the statues along. That is part of our culture. Learn from it and learn the truth concerning Lincoln and his walking all over the constitution to go to war against the south.



  8. Cats79
    4:23 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

    Abraham Lincoln said it will not be an outsider that will destroy our country it will be by our own people. We’re witness that today.



    • 4everUKBlue
      4:40 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      Again you nailed it, if people would pay attention to what is going on behind the scenes while we are being distracted they might be shocked. BTW, maybe some of you need to do a little research. https://medium.com/@jonathanusa/everything-you-know-about-the-civil-war-is-wrong-9e94f0118269



    • 4everUKBlue
      4:44 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      Executive Orders That Have Already Been Signed by U.S. Presidents

      10995 – Seizure of all communications media.
      10997 – Seizure of all electric power, fuels, minerals, public and private
      10998 – Seizure of all food supplies and resources both public and private, all farms and all farm equipment.
      10999 – Seizure of all types of transportation, including personal cars, trucks, or vehicles of any kind, and total control over the highways, seaports, and waterways.
      11000 – Seizure of all civilians for work under Federal supervision. This includes the splitting of families and children from their parents.
      11001 – Seizure of all health, education and welfare facilities, both public and private.
      11002 – All people in the United States to undergo mandatory registration at the United States Post Offices.
      11003 – Seizure of all aircraft and all airports.
      11004 – Authorization for forced relocation.
      11005 – Seizure of all railroads, waterways, and all storage facilities, both public and private.
      11051 – Authorization to put “executive orders” into effect in “times of increased international tension or financial crisis.”

      It is clear that in a time of crisis, even one manufactured by the globalists, you own nothing, not even your children or your own life.

      Think this is conspiracy theory? Look it up.



  9. Jambluehue99
    5:36 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

    Slavery was horrible. No one in the mainstream will argue against that. But we can not white wash history and act like it never happened. I’m sorry, if you are offended by a statue of a Confederate soldier, you are thin skinned and need to grow up. No one alive today has been a slave owner or a slave. The extent to which people are impacted by slavery today is only that to which they choose to be. I find it interesting that a country that allows black people who grow up dirt poor to turn their abilities into millions of dollars, paid for by mostly white people who marvel at their abilities and worship them, can somehow be racist. People have lost their minds. Where is the outrage at a continent that sold their people into slavery? Are they not as guilty as people who lived in America 150 years ago? Should we invade Africa and make CHAZ of Africa? Should we ban every book, movie, speech, TV Show, and anything else that offends anyone in any way? That is the logical end to the path we are on. I leave you with an interesting read, if you are tolerant enough to do so.

    https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/anonymous-black-berkeley-professor-writes-open-letter-exposes-the-truth-about-blm/



    • TPACAT
      1:17 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

      Once again, bravo Jamblue…



    • Bluebros
      4:29 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

      I just… There is no fighting stupid on this level. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.



  10. CahillsCrossingNT
    6:48 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

    KSR isn’t even a sports site anymore.



    • Jambluehue99
      6:56 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      Let’s all realize this site was a way for its creator to gain name recognition so he could enter politics. So the shift toward all things political, especially with a liberal bent, should come as no surprise. It’s a brilliant concept, you have to admit.



    • T-Town Cat
      8:06 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      Well, you do get about 20% of the posts advertising KSBar, KSR Shop, and somebody’s beer, so they still believe in some Capitalism.



    • CahillsCrossingNT
      5:29 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

      Jambluehue99 That obviously was his intent. He didn’t enter the senate race because he knew he had no chance.



  11. Cousins Fake Tooth
    7:03 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

    Basically about 50% left wing political rag at this point. They post stories and comments pushing a leftist agenda, then turn off comments, something Na zi’s would do. They love censorship. Its either, you agree with us or we silence you. I left the Democrat party after Obamas first term (who I had voted for). I sat back and watch the left get crazier and crazier. Look at them today. They are so far left, that hard core Republicans are almost like moderates were a few years ago.



    • Jambluehue99
      7:07 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      You hit the nail on the head. You either agree with them or they will shut you down. There is no room in the Democrat parry, or any left wing group, for an opposing view. They are intellectually bankrupt and the only way they can win in the arena of ideas is to prevent anyone else from sharing one. The party that preaches tolerance has none.



  12. UK_fac_boi
    7:59 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

    The south decided to separate itself from the United States of America during the civil war. Call it what you want but one giant reason was to fight for their right to keep slaves. The Confederate army was, and apparently still is, the enemy. F that racist flag and statues of anyone who fought for it. Keep it in the history books, don’t run from, learn from. Know has ever stopped at a statue of a Confederate and learned something valuable to today’s society that you can’t google in 2 seconds. Scared old bigots want to remind us it’s “heritage not hate” but your heritage is built on the backs of slaves. You’re just too afraid whatever racist is at your Thanksgiving table to do anything about it. But fear not, my generation is here to do what the cowardly generations before us could not, Say no more open support for anyone who was OK with slaves or benefited from it.



    • Jambluehue99
      8:19 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      Your generation is built on ignorance and politically correct nonsense.



    • Jambluehue99
      8:33 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

      Should the MLK monument be torn down because he is suspected of being a womanizer? By your logic it should be because his behavior was offensive to women. Why should a woman have to stand at the foot of that monument and be cheated on again and again as he did his wife? Keep him in the history books, right? That’s what you are advocating for. Purity and nothing else. If that is the standard none but Jesus would have a statue. Just because one doesn’t want history, inconvenient and as ugly as it was, removed from every square inch of he public square doesn’t mean they are racist. Can we not agree that our past contributes to who we are as a nation, that good can conquer evil? No one today celebrates slavery. Yet you would think every white person in the country is racist by the way some people are acting. You would think the civil rights act was never passed, slavery was never abolished, and society hasn’t gone out of its way over the last 50 plus years to right the wrongs of slavery. When will people realize that race isn’t the issue we are fighting, its those that use it as a way to divide Americans. To believe that America is full of systemic racism is to deny the very dream of MLK and to deny reality. Shame on anyone who rips this country apart based on lies and a leftist political agenda that has exploited black people for a half century. The problems of the back community are not born of statues and the names of military bases. It is the decay of the family unit and the lies told to them by Democrats that black people can’t amount to anything without a pat on the head and a handout, and the country that freed their ancestors, fighting a war to do so, is racist. It’s all bunk, and you have taken the poison pill of radical lies.



    • CrystalBall
      12:03 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

      Good comment Jambluehue99.



    • UKFanSC
      7:01 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

      Wish I’d written that. Captures my feelings much better than my own post.



    • CahillsCrossingNT
      5:31 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

      UK_fac_boi Can you please read what you write before posting? It’s very incoherent.



  13. jaws2
    8:41 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

    Since it was decided a while back to teach ‘revisionist’ history, the dumbing down of Americans is becoming successful. Do yourself a favor and take a look at actual history and you’ll find the single largest proprietors of keepers and selling slaves to other nations were AFRICANS!!! Yep, the Ashanti tribe controlled virtually all of west Africa at one time, had African slaves from other tribes and sold them to pretty much all ‘western’ nations. They traded with these nations for weapons to expand their territories. Ironic isn’t it that today the hell raised about it here but you NEVER hear of the actual history of the slave trade. History is history, you can’t just remove it in a Republic, Democratic society.
    It was a despicable practice there and all over the world and has occurred since the beginning of time. I suppose we should rename every county or city in KY named after someone that served in the Civil War.
    Oh, and the dopes in the Congress who were wearing the African garb while kneeling were wearing the colors of the Ashanti Tribe!!! Completely embarrassing moment. The IDIOTS can’t even get that right!



  14. Bluehender
    9:41 pm June 14, 2020 Permalink

    Boy does this country need some sports..



    • UKFanSC
      6:58 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

      Ha !! Most intelligent thing in this entire string, and certainly one all of us can agree upon.



    • TPACAT
      1:30 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

      Sadly, I don’t think we’ll be able to watch ANY sports without political comments and kneeling. At this point the NFL and NASCAR are definitely out. Hopefully Indy Car and IMSA stay out of the fray. But, who knows, since now every corporation and organization feels required to do their own version of a “hostage video” supporting those Marxist BLM’ers for fear of being branded racist. Cause, nowadays, if you don’t say anything at all that still proves you are a RACIST!



  15. chris43
    7:17 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

    I have no issues with the statue staying or being removed. But I do find it funny that most truly believe the Civil War was fought over slavery. It was actually fought over tariffs among many other issues involving MONEY! Anyone care to guess who this comes from? “I have no purpose, directly or in-directly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so. Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them”. Ole Honest Abe



  16. channell
    8:18 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

    The idea here is to destroy the culture of a nation. We see floods of people coming through the southern border until recently. This influx is encouraged by the leftist socialist party. In doing so the goal is to destroy the culture. Over time people will establish their own traditions where ours will have no meaning. Eventually this leads to a nation that has forgotten where it came from. This opens the door for a new government to step in with a different mindset and the united States of America is gone. We see how our government wants to defend the cultures of Iraq, Iran and countries over there and is even a serious crime to sell stolen artifacts. But here there is no goal to preserve history, but to erase. So Mr. Morant is senseless on what he ask for and is way out of line. History good or bad is needed for future generations to learn from the past and to enjoy the best parts of our culture.



    • TPACAT
      1:39 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

      Exactly. America is a melting pot where, when you come here, you’re not asked to abandon your culture but to blend into the culture as an American. That’s why, up until the 60’s, immigration was limited to EVERY OTHER generation – so that the previous batch of new Americans had time to assimilate into the greater American culture. Now, we have many immigrants coming here for no other reason that financial. They have now desire to become an “American”, three just want the benefits of being in America. That’s why you see whole parts of America where people don’t even speak English and want to govern their communities in the same fashion as their country of origin. But, I’m sure I’ll be called a xenophobe for stating that fact…



  17. Ned T.
    8:28 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

    ALL lives matter. Even white lives.



  18. uknyc
    9:21 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

    1. It’s true slavery was prevalent in world history. America is not the worst country ever. Most nations have had slavery of some type, but this doesn’t mean we should minimize the damage it caused.

    2. What was the Civil War fought over? Much debate. Maybe just read the statement of why Southern states seceded?
    https://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp
    Slavery is mentioned as the most important issue and as the issue over states need their rights to be respected. Even if you argue it’s states right, slavery is still an underlying cause as it was the most important of these “rights.” Everyone admits the biggest change to America after the Civil War was the end of slavery. No one says that tariffs or suppression of states rights was the biggest social change in 1865.

    3. I understand the argument that we shouldn’t whitewash history and just destroy every statue because this person committed some sin. In 1861, all states were part of the United States unless they left to join the Confederacy. Kentucky did not join the Confederacy, so what country was Kentucky apart of during the war? Yes, many Kentuckians did fight with the Confederacy, including some of my relatives. And who do we honor in Murray? There are no statues to Jesus, Martin Luther, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Zachary Taylor, Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses S. Grant, Secretariat, Nathan B. Stubblefield, or Ronald Reagan. Is this not a whitewashing of history? The city of Murray honors only one man – one from 1861 to 1865 was a citizen of a different country and fought against Kentucky. Robert E. Lee seems to have been honorable in many ways. I’m not suggesting we destroy every Civil War statue, but does it not seem odd that he is the most revered person in the history of Murray? If during World War II, some citizens of Kentucky joined the Japanese in fighting against America, and then paid to put up a statue of Hideki Tojo, would everyone still feel the same way? I doubt it.

    4. What would be wrong with moving the statue from the courtsquare to a park or museum?



  19. Ned T.
    10:06 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

    It was blacks who captured and sold slaves in the US. Why not riot in Africa? Demand reparations from the Ivory Coast?

    Oh—I forgot—this is about the hatred of white people. My bad.



    • uknyc
      11:03 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

      For sure there are some nasty people who hate all white people. (Just like there are some nasty people who hate the Wildcats.) But this isn’t about hating white people. It’s about a statue dedicated in 1917 by the Daughters of the Confederacy when Laura Martin Rose was their historian-general. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Martin_Rose Ned, I’m wondering if you are a fan of Rose’s ideas?



    • Jambluehue99
      11:44 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

      But it’s not about a statue. That is a means to an end to divide everyone along racial lines. That’s the point. We are destroying a culture, history, etc. in the name of race when racial harmony isn’t the goal. The goal is division. For this reason there is no end to the lunacy. If statutes are removed today, buildings will be torn down tomorrow, and graves relocated after that. The real goal is division. That’s what we have to understand. Sadly most do not.



    • uknyc
      12:07 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

      I hear what you are saying Jamblue. KKK white supremacists definitely exist. Radical black extremists and white liberals also exist. These forces hate each other and are a minority. Most people lie somewhere in the middle. We in the middle all like to use examples of the extremists on the other side to rationalize our own views. Yes, some people who promote taking down statues are not in favor of racial harmony, and yes some will later advocate for more extreme changes. But some who do promote keeping the statues also are not in favor of racial harmony either.

      The question I have is this: Should Robert E. Lee be more honored that Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, or any other number of potential candidates? If you are going to put only 1 statue on government property, why put up a statue of Lee? 800 from Calloway County did fight for the Confederacy, as did my ancestors. 2,200 fought for the Union. Why solely honor the minority that lost (and fought against their home state) instead of the majority who won? Would you be in favor of keeping the Lee statue and adding a monument to Lincoln and the evils of slavery beside Lee? Lincoln and slavery are history too. I think moving the statues to a historical park would make the most sense.



    • UKFanSC
      12:26 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

      Your attempts to impress us with your middle school history lectures and Latin terminology are pretty ridiculous too nyc……”ad hominem logical fallacy”…..really ? Time to head back to the upper east side for a slice. Geez.



    • uknyc
      12:31 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

      UKFanSC, you are a moron. I live in Alabama.



  20. Trinity45
    10:39 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

    My question is why is there a statue of Robert E. Lee in Murray, did Lee ever step foot in Kentucky? I get Jefferson Daviess he was born here but Lee????



    • uknyc
      11:40 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

      Agreed, Lee didn’t come to Kentucky. Jefferson Davis/Abraham Lincoln statues would make more sense. During the Civil war, Calloway County had 800 fight for the Confederacy but 2,200 for the Union.

      The statue in Murray was put up in 1917. Nine years later, the same organization built a memorial to the KKK. https://blogs.lib.unc.edu/ncm/2018/11/03/remembering-a-monument-that-remembered-the-klan/ It’s political.



    • The Big Lebowski
      5:45 am June 16, 2020 Permalink

      They should tear down any statue to Jeff Davis as well.

      He was a traitor and a failed leader.

      Why the South made that irascible fool their President is beyond me. From that decision alone, the South was doomed to fail.

      Hell, maybe they should leave the Statue up. A monument to the failure and stupidity that was the CSA.



  21. happycat44
    11:23 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

    If Morant had gotten a four year degree and lived in Murray he might have a right to say something. Instead, he thinks he is an historian and that what he thinks somehow matters. It does not.



    • uknyc
      11:33 am June 15, 2020 Permalink

      Your contention is ridiculous. So if someone has a Ph.D. in history you will accept their view because you don’t have one? In order to have an opinion you have to live in a place for at least four years? A person’s argument may be completely valid, but if they don’t have certain credentials then their view doesn’t matter? Perhaps you need to get a 4 year degree in logic. Your thinking is an ad hominem logical fallacy.



    • The Big Lebowski
      5:48 am June 16, 2020 Permalink

      Lee failed. The CSA failed.

      Why do we have monuments to failure dotting the landscape of America?

      Monuments to mediocrity.

      Monuments to stupidity.

      Monuments to cruelty and the enslavement of our fellow Man.

      What is it that makes me cling to such creatures? Such cretins?

      If I were a Black American, I would be mortified to have to pass a monument to a man who used all of his talents to keep my ancestors in chains as if they were animals.

      If you can’t see that, you have no soul.



    • The Big Lebowski
      5:50 am June 16, 2020 Permalink

      men

      not me

      cling to such creatures



  22. TPACAT
    1:22 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

    And, one can’t deny there’s a “globalist” element (follow the money trail) since America is the last domino. They HAVE to topple America and they’ve gone all-in this go round…



  23. TPACAT
    1:44 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

    The bottom line is, ol’ Ja should just “shut up and dribble”…



    • uknyc
      8:12 pm June 15, 2020 Permalink

      TPACat, I wonder why you think ol’ Ja just shut up and dribble? I’ll make it easy and give you some options: (a) because he’s black, (b) because he’s better than you in basketball, (c) because he has more money than you, (d) because you don’t believe in the 1st amendment right to freedom of speech, (e) because only people with 4 year degrees should speak, (f) the globalist element! if we take down a statue the Chinese will take over or (g) TPACat types comments without thinking first.



  24. The Big Lebowski
    5:40 am June 16, 2020 Permalink

    Why is there a statue of Robert E. Lee in Kentucky?

    Kentucky did not secede.

    Yes, some losers bolted and headed South with the Orphan Brigade and other units. However, Kentucky stayed a part of the Union.

    Lee was a traitor to the Union; to the United States of America.

    Certainly, he was a pretty good General even if he is a bit overrated. He played against inferior opponents until Lincoln brought the A Team East to kick his old, tired ass. Grant, Sherman and the boys whipped Lee’s audacious butt. Period.

    The idiocy of statues to the losers of the American Civill War is beyond me. I can kind of understand it in the deep South. It’s flabbergasting to see that kind of stupidity in Kentucky which remained with the Union and did not secede.

    Screw Lee. Screw the Confederacy. Get rid of all of the losers.

    Especially, they should rename Fort Bragg. Braxton Bragg was the worst General of the Civil War and that includes all of the drunkards and fools.

    I could not imagine being a Black American and having to see a damnable statue of a General who spent all of his considerable talents fighting and murdering Americans to keep my ancestors enslaved.

    Make no mistake about it. The South seceded over slavery. The war was over Union. The South wanted out because they wanted to keep humans enslaved as if they were lower than animals and cockroaches.

    If you can’t see this, you’re a simpleton. You have no empathy. No emotional intelligence. No common sense. And no g_dd*mned soul.



    • satcheluk
      10:54 am June 16, 2020 Permalink

      Ditto!