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Fox and Monk snubbed from Naismith semifinalist list

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In a surprising turn of events Wednesday morning, both Malik Monk and De’Aaron Fox were left off the list of semifinalists for the Naismith Player of the Year trophy.

This list of contenders includes 10 names from college basketball, none of which are Malik, Monk, De’Aaron or Fox.

Last Name First Name Class Position School Conference
Ball Lonzo Freshman G UCLA Pac 12
Happ Ethan R-Sophomore F Wisconsin Big Ten
Hart Josh Senior G Villanova Big East
Jackson Justin Junior SF North Carolina ACC
Jackson Josh Freshman G Kansas Big 12
Kennard Luke Sophomore G Duke ACC
Mason III Frank Senior PG Kansas Big 12
Motley Johnathan Junior F Baylor Big 12
Swanigan Caleb Sophomore F Purdue Big Ten
Williams-Goss Nigel R-Junior G Gonzaga West Coast

Frank Mason III or Josh Hart would get my vote for the award, but I find it hard to believe Monk isn’t among the 10 best players in college basketball.

Ethan Happ? Is that a real person?

Article written by Drew Franklin

I can recite every line from Forrest Gump, blindfolded. Follow me on Twitter: @DrewFranklinKSR

38 Comments for Fox and Monk snubbed from Naismith semifinalist list



  1. UKFaninNY
    10:04 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

    Not having Monk on there is crazy (Fox less so), but not having Markelle Fultz on there is INSANE



    • Catsby80
      10:06 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

      I get that he’s a great player and most likely the number 1 pick overall, but his team is 9-19 in a trash Pac 12 conference.



    • TBW3011
      11:14 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

      It’s an individual award. At least it’s supposed to be. Frank Mason will win and isn’t even the best player on his own team. Lol



    • ukjaybrat
      10:08 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

      not having fox is understandable. he’s great but he’s been sick or hurt for a third of the season.
      not having monk is just stupid. he will be a top 10 pick easily.



    • UKFaninNY
      10:14 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

      The Naismith award has zero to do with MVP – then you’d have a point…

      Also, the PAC 12 is hardly trash, with three teams in or near the Top 10 (and check out Fultz’s stats against those teams)

      Fultz should be on it



    • Catsby80
      10:27 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

      I’m not saying that Fultz isn’t a great player – he clearly is. But if you’re a great player, you make your team better. For what it’s worth, Washington is on a 10 game losing streak. Just let that sink in. 10 straight losses and they play @ UCLA tonight so go ahead and mark ’em down for 11 straight losses.

      The Pac 12 is by far the worst of the power 5 conferences. After Oregon, UCLA, and Arizona the bottom falls out. They only have 7 teams with a winning record in their conference for gods sake.



    • UKFaninNY
      10:29 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

      Being a great player is all this award is about –

      https://theringer.com/markelle-fultz-washington-huskies-college-basketball-481eefbcd41c#.ko8qqtlcv

      I think he’s talking about you…



    • Catsby80
      10:42 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

      Is it possible that he has such good numbers because he plays on a bad team and therefore has to be “the guy”? I’m not discounting his abilities as a player, but he plays in a bad conference and he plays on a bad team. His numbers are going to be inflated because of this. He averages almost 18 shots per game.

      Do you think he’d average 23 points if he played for a team that is currently in the top 15 or so?



    • UKFaninNY
      10:50 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

      yes



    • @GoCayts
      10:50 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

      most people think Fultz is going to be the #1 or #2 pick in the draft, so I think the consensus is he’s pretty good



    • Catsby80
      11:10 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

      @gocayts, i’ve said 10 times on here that i think the kid is good. i’m not saying he isn’t. my point is that if you’re that good, you make your team better. he clearly hasn’t done that. if you can’t make your team better than 9-19 in a dismal pac 12 conference, then i’m sorry, i don’t think you should win the award. he’s going to get paid in about 3 months and that should be all the award the kid needs.

      and ukfaninny, i disagree – the guy takes 18 shots per game. he’s not getting that number of shots up at another school. Kennard takes 13 shots a game and Monk takes 15. I just use those as reference points.



    • TBW3011
      11:17 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

      Bullsh#t. He does make his team better. Do you think Davis makes the pitiful Pelicans better? Take Fultz off Washington and they are even worse. Your team doesn’t have to be 27-2 in order for an individual player to make his team better.



    • TBW3011
      11:19 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

      He’d take less shots on a really good team, but he’d also get much better shots. You’re way off base here and voters with your opinion are what make some of these awards stupid. Best player doesn’t have to be on the best or even one of the best teams.



    • Catsby80
      11:30 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

      dude their best win is against Western Kentucky. They play in a pitiful conference and they’re 2-14. Hell, even Ben Simmons made his team better than the Fultz kid has made Washington.

      You absolutely cannot compare Davis’ situation in the NBA to Fultz’s situation in the Pac 12. Apples and oranges.



  2. poppycat
    10:23 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

    The Naismith is not about draft rankings, it’s about who is the best in college..
    Good to see some SRs & JRs on the list. Hard work pays.
    As to Monk, he played too long as a one trick pony……hot or cold shooting.
    Only recently has his D and rebounding become worth noting.

  3. “See, I told you! UNDERWHELMING!!!”
    -Colin



  4. ukbradstith
    10:31 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

    Fultz should be on the list, but keep in mind he’s missed 3 of the last 5 games, and he’s out for at least the next 2. Basically he’s done, because there won’t be any post season. Monk should be there too, of course it’s hard to leave any of these guys off. I’d say Kennard, but he has had a really good year.



  5. Jonathan40330
    10:36 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

    Drew, I love UK as much as the next fan, but I would trade nearly anyone on our team for Ethan Happ any day of the week. While he is not a scoring machine (14 ppg), he does everything else extremely well and has a nice fifteen foot jumper. Yes, I’d keep Bam, but I would trade any other frontcourt player on this year’s team or last year’s team for Happ.



    • UKFaninNY
      10:41 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

      The fact he seems not to know who Ethan Happ is tells ya all ya need to know about his knowing of college b-ball



    • plumloopy
      11:13 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

      What? So he would know more about NCAAM if he *didn’t* know who Happ was?



    • fauxbobknight
      12:10 pm March 1, 2017 Permalink

      I think Happ is a really good player as well but his stats arent anything special and his ft% is surprisingly bad.



  6. ukbradstith
    10:43 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

    And you could argue that the Pac 12 is the second best conference…ACC, then Big 12, PAC 12, and Big East in some order..then Big10, with SEC bringing up the rear.



    • Catsby80
      11:14 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

      why? because they have 3 good teams? after that their conference is trash. conference rpi has the pac 12 as the worst of the power 5.



    • ukbradstith
      12:23 pm March 1, 2017 Permalink

      3 elite teams that could be #1 seeds. The bottom half of every conference sucks, some just suck more than others. I say they are no worse than 4th.



    • Eazy
      1:04 pm March 1, 2017 Permalink

      The PAC 12 hasn’t won a title since 1997. Lol. The Big 12 is always overrated. Also, the SEC is improving. It’s better than the big 10 this year and similar to the PAC 12 but a little better in the middle. Everyone always dogs the Sec but we consistently outperform the Big 12, Big 10 and PAC 12 in March.



  7. Aar
    11:04 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

    Consistency counts for the Naismith. Also, correct me if I’m wrong but I believe there’s an academic component to Naismith and we don’t have visibility into that but this team had one of the worst fall semester GPAs under Cal. I am not saying academics are the reason either is not a semifinalist I’m just pointing out that, to the best of my knowledge, Naismith takes off the court factors into consideration. Us fans usually can’t see those off court things.



  8. TBW3011
    11:13 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

    Monk should be on it. Fox, no way



  9. CVL123
    11:32 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

    I know a nice way to prove you should be there. Win the tournament.



  10. jrdh13
    11:32 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

    For people that dont think its the kid from Purdue, You people are crazy!



    • RexRox
      12:37 pm March 1, 2017 Permalink

      UofL pretty much shut him down. I realize he had 14 and 11 but Purdue was never really in the game. Most of his production came in the second half. He certainly didn’t look like the Naismith Award winner that night.



    • fauxbobknight
      1:39 pm March 1, 2017 Permalink

      RexRox- He must be doing pretty good for himself If you consider 14 & 11 against a defensive oriented top 10 team an off night. Who would be your choice for the award?



    • jrdh13
      9:37 am March 2, 2017 Permalink

      kids averaging almost 19 and 13



  11. Tater
    11:46 am March 1, 2017 Permalink

    SIMPLE – They just have to play better – Fox can’t shoot a three and pull the defense out and Monk can’t get a rebound …. They will need to improve in a bunch of areas.



  12. fauxbobknight
    12:23 pm March 1, 2017 Permalink

    Sindarius Thornwell belongs on that list. 21p/7r/3a/2s/1b for a 22-8 team.



    • RexRox
      12:38 pm March 1, 2017 Permalink

      Agreed!



  13. AGSlater
    3:38 pm March 1, 2017 Permalink

    Uhhhh ya think??? He has missed games and has been bad lately