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Daniel Orton now a cautionary tale for players going overseas

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Daniel Orton just finished up a stint with the Portland Trail Blazers in the NBA Summer League, and unfortunately, probably didn’t do enough to make a roster. Orton averaged 5.4 points, 4.4 rebounds and 1.8 blocks in 29.8 minutes per game, but seemed to suffer from the same problems that plagued him overseas.

Tim Cone coached Orton during his stint with the Philippine Basketball Association — which ended when Orton insulted national hero Manny Pacquiao’s basketball skills — and tried to explain Orton’s problems in a recent interview with Grantland’s Jason Concepcion:

“I never cut imports,” Cone told me in Las Vegas. “But I could tell right away with Orton, there would be problems. Just doing whatever he wanted in practice, not playing defense. Then he said that thing about Manny … ”

Did he get a chance to see Orton in Vegas?

“I saw him, but we didn’t speak.”

But he’s a good kiiiiiiid, right? Interesting stuff over at Grantland, so go check it out.

[Watching the Americans: Summer League Through the Eyes of European Scouts]

Article written by Mrs. Tyler Thompson

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21 Comments for Daniel Orton now a cautionary tale for players going overseas



  1. CatsBy80
    10:15 am July 22, 2015 Permalink

    i just don’t get it.. a frame like that kid has.. he should’ve been a lottery pick and potentially an all-star in the NBA. just goes to show you what a poor attitude, worthless work ethic, and big ego can do to somebody.. i just wish i had the body that guy has.. I wouldn’t be worried about my 9-5 haha.



    • J-Dub421
      10:25 am July 22, 2015 Permalink

      Orton is his own worst enemy.



  2. BigO
    10:23 am July 22, 2015 Permalink

    I remember Orton leaving the bench and going back to the locker room at UK after Cal took him out of a game…..



  3. asdf
    10:29 am July 22, 2015 Permalink

    Orton brought most of it on himself with a lazy attitude, but this whole “Manny” thing is just silly, and he ought to be defended on that point. People over there would not be upset so bad if what he said wasn’t true. Orton hit a nerve.



    • J-Dub421
      10:35 am July 22, 2015 Permalink

      Agreed. I saw video of Manny shooting. It was awful. Manny is a great boxer, and seems like a nice man, but that doesn’t mean he’s good at everything.



  4. Eyebleedblue
    11:00 am July 22, 2015 Permalink

    Seem to remember some fans taking grief over saying he should’ve come back, even though it wasn’t an insult, but rather a fact. Would like to think another year under Cal as a starter would’ve helped his attitude more than anything, because he certainly has the natural gifts to play.



    • UKfaninLou
      11:30 am July 22, 2015 Permalink

      Wish him the best and don’t like to say negative things about any UK guys but glad he moved on. Chances are good he would have messed up chemistry with that attitude. What a waste.



  5. theWilkman
    11:04 am July 22, 2015 Permalink

    Easily Cal’s biggest miss at UK (he has had very few). Not talent-wise, but attitude. If you look at subsequent recruits, though, I think he learned a lot from it.



    • MADARCHITECT
      2:41 pm July 22, 2015 Permalink

      I’m pretty sure that he was a BCG recruit.



  6. Lol
    11:08 am July 22, 2015 Permalink

    I saw a Manny “highlights” video and honestly thought it was a joke. He missed every shot he took and turned the ball over twice in the two minute video. The only thing he was decent at was one assist he had. Orton may have an attitude problem, but Manny should stick with boxing. Basketball is not his forte, IMO.



  7. CatManDo
    11:11 am July 22, 2015 Permalink

    5- I wouldn’t call him a miss…..remember he was a Billy G recruit. Highly doubt Cal would have recruited him if he wasn’t already committed to UK.



    • theWilkman
      11:30 am July 22, 2015 Permalink

      Good point. I bet he still learned a lesson from him though.



  8. D. Marshall
    12:15 pm July 22, 2015 Permalink

    Orton’s a perfect example of how NBA people get caught up in the UK msytique. They figured just because he attended UK that he must be a draft pick. Sadly I see the same thing in store for Dakari Johnson and the Twins. Marcus Lee as well. He has zero offensive game. Most of his points come from lobs and dunks. Sometimes you can’t just get by on athletic ability alone.



    • PhilUK18
      12:39 pm July 22, 2015 Permalink

      Have to disagree about Dakari. Dude seems to have a good work ethic, witness his slimming down over the last year or so, unlike Orton. Bodies as big as the one Dakari has are always valuable for some backup minutes in the NBA, especially given his decent-good finishing around the rim. I like him to be similar to Nazr in the league.



    • RUPPS_rhetoric
      12:44 pm July 22, 2015 Permalink

      Scouts don’t get caught up in UK mystique. That’s silly. Andrew was drafted LATE in the 2nd round, and Aaron went undrafted. Not sure you have a strong point there. As far as Orton and Dakari goes; the NBA will ALWAYS take chances on kids who are that big. 7 footers who can actually move are hard to come by. That is why those kids got drafted, not Kentucky mystique. Teams take a flyer on them in hopes it pans out. As you recall neither Orton or Dakari were lottery picks. As far as Marcus Lee goes, I don’t think any NBA team is going to draft him to be an offensive weapon. But he would get drafted because of his ability to be a Dennis Rodman type player. High motor, strong rebounder, and defensive specialist. There is absolutley a place in the NBA for kids like that; and that’s the bill Marcus Lee fits. But you’re already talking about his future draft status as being attributed to Kentucky mystique. I’m really sorry Pitino ruined your boy Montrezl’s draft stock… that’s not Cal’s fault.



    • Dude
      1:35 pm July 22, 2015 Permalink

      “He has zero offensive game. Most of his points come from lobs and dunks. Sometimes you can’t just get by on athletic ability alone.”

      Kind of like NBA All-Star Tyson Chandler? Or DeAndre Jordan? Kenneth Faried?

      I’m sure they drafted Motrezl for his 3-point scoring threat…. LOL

      Louisville people want to talk shit about basketball, when they have no clue about basketball. Thats what makes them the worst.



    • BCO
      1:39 pm July 22, 2015 Permalink

      Orton isnt 7′ though, more like 6’9″. If i remember correctly there was a big to-do about his listed height at UK being misrepresented.



    • Ha!
      2:11 pm July 22, 2015 Permalink

      Then Demarcus Cousins must’ve only been 6’9″…. smh…..



    • RUPPS_rhetoric
      2:54 pm July 22, 2015 Permalink

      Team photo. Orton and Boogie damn near the same height…

      http://www.wildcatworld.com/wp-content/gallery/team-photos/2009-2010-kentucky-mens-tea.jpg



  9. James K
    1:01 pm July 22, 2015 Permalink

    For all Daniel’s errors, and there are many, the Manny comment was not one of them. He was spot on with that comment and people couldn’t handle it. At worst he should’ve just kept to himself about it, but he was correct. Pacquiao didn’t need to be playing professional basketball.



  10. BenHur
    2:11 pm July 22, 2015 Permalink

    In summary, karma.