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Getting you caught up on the latest with college basketball’s FBI scandal

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College basketball’s FBI scandal is now more than a week old, but even roughly 10 days or so after the news broke this still remains the biggest story in college sports right now. Frankly, I don’t think there is a close second. Take a handful of the sport’s biggest programs, a major sneaker company, hundreds of thousands of dollars changing hands, the FBI and very real possibility of more to come, and we’ve got a real life soap opera on our hands. It’s like Blue Chips meets General Hospital, with a little Law & Order mixed in.

Yet what is truly insane about this scandal is that there is no end in sight. Unlike the typical NCAA case which goes through a pretty standard cycle, with a resolution set after a certain amount of time (except at North Carolina, where their academic probe is going on roughly 47 years now) there’s no end in sight here. There’s also no telling how many schools, programs and coaches could be ensnared when it’s all said and done.

Therefore, I figured it would be a good time to get everyone caught up on where things stand. I know most folks don’t have time to sit around and follow every little detail of this case.

But you do have a lot of questions. And after talking with all sorts of people over the last week, here are my best answers to the biggest questions:

No, Louisville isn’t getting the death penalty:

Obviously any conversation about this case has to start with Louisville. And while the death penalty was absolutely in play for the Cards early — I believe I was actually the first person, at any point to suggest it — it isn’t in play here. For any fan hoping the NCAA brings the hammer on the Cards, it just ain’t happening.

The simple truth is that the death penalty was only put into the rulebook as a way for the NCAA to police schools that couldn’t police themselves. And when this news first broke, Louisville was a textbook case of exactly that. I mean seriously, how do you get busted paying for players when you’re already on probation? That’s the college basketball equivalent of “How do you get fired on your day off” from the movie Friday. You’ve got to be really dumb to not only attempt it, but then get caught doing it.

Only that’s exactly what Louisville did.

But since then, Louisville has taken what is really the only step necessary to make sure they don’t get the death penalty: They fired Rick Pitino. In essence that was Louisville’s way of saying to the NCAA “mannnnnnnnn, we really screwed up on this one. And we’re ready to start getting things cleaned up” (assuming of course you believe that any of college basketball can be “cleaned up”).

And really, that’s all the NCAA really wanted to see. Remember, the NCAA doesn’t actually want to hand out the death penalty, it’s too costly for too many entities (the city of Louisville, the ACC, TV partners). They will only hand it out when they absolutely have to, when the school leaves them no choice.

But — to use a really bad pun — Louisville used their “get out of jail free” card here. They got rid of Pitino to save the program. And it worked.

What the hell is the NCAA going to do?

So that’s the small picture with Louisville, and now to the big picture of it all. To which I ask: What the hell is the NCAA going to do with all this? It’s something that no one really has a good answer to right now.

That’s because while it’s clear NCAA violations occurred — egregious, crazy, overwhelming ones — this whole situation is, in a lot of ways, out of the NCAA’s jurisdiction. Remember, that even in cases where violations fall right into the NCAA’s lap (like Reggie Bush and USC or Miami and Nevin Shapiro) they generally then take that information and use it as outline for its own investigations. And those investigations can take up to years to get resolutions to. Like the North Carolina academic probe for example. Or even worse, Ole Miss football. Seriously, Ole Miss had a player (Laremy Tunsil) admit on national television during the NFL draft that he accepted money to play football at Ole Miss. That seems like a pretty standard admission of guilt, and a situation where you don’t need a lot of legal BS bureaucracy to throw the book at Ole Miss. Only guess what: THE NCAA STILL HASN’T HIT OLE MISS WITH NCAA PENALTIES!!!! How does that happen?

At the same time that’s also why it feels like the NCAA could drag their feet here. Even though it’s obvious that violations happened, most of the information the FBI has was obtained through wiretaps and recorded conversations. Does the NCAA use that information as their own? Do they try to verify it? Do they wait for the court cases to conclude? And do they even attempt to do their own investigations, knowing that they won’t get nearly the same information the FBI already has?

Therefore, as hectic as things are within the walls of college basketball programs right now, they feel equally insane within the NCAA. What is their next move?

And while we’re waiting on that move, it impacts a number of things. We’ll leave aside real life stuff like “jail time” and focus on what matters to college basketball fans. Starting with:

NCAA Tournament bans

Obviously the biggest factor in any NCAA investigation would be potential bans, but I just don’t see it happening this year. Ultimately, until the NCAA knows exactly what schools did exactly what wrong, it seems entirely too haphazard to just start throwing around tournament bans. There are literally billions at stake for the NCAA and their TV partners and it seems entirely unlikely that they’re going to tinker with the tournament until they get all their ducks in a row.

Therefore, it feels like this year’s NCAA Tournament is safe, and expect Arizona, USC, Louisville, Miami and maybe Auburn to be dancing. But in 2018-2019? That’s anyone’s guess.

Player suspensions

This one will be interesting to me. Because while the NCAA might not move quickly, the one thing that we know about most schools in cases like this is that they’re always proactive. If there’s even a hint of NCAA trouble, they pull players out of practice and games. The last thing that they want to do is play guys who have committed NCAA violations, which could cost them games down the line. Therefore, will any schools actively involved in this case pull players who are believed to be implicated by the FBI, and therefore have in turn broken NCAA rules?

Normally that’d be a cut and dried “yes” but because this is the craziest case ever, there is a crazy sub-plot no one is talking about: Are we sure any player actually accepted money? According to the FBI, the only players that we know for certain were paid are Louisville’s Brian Bowen and Arizona recruit Jahvon Quinerly. That’s it. Yes, we know money changed hands from agents to coaches. But we’re not certain that money actually made it to any of the players other than those two.

It’s a fascinating web that I’m pretty sure is making compliance offices across America pull their hair out, and families across the country sweat. At the same time, as best I can tell, not a single player at any school except Bowen has been pulled out of practice, nor have any player suspensions been announced.

This is something worth monitoring going forward however.

What does it mean for recruiting?

We’ve already seen the fallout at Louisville, where a Top 5 class fell apart and five-star prospects Anfernee Simons and Courtney Ramey are both back on the market. And we’re seeing a trickle-down effect everywhere else. Shareef O’Neal’s recruitment appears to be on the verge of opening back up, and Bol Bol — once a heavy Arizona lean — now seems to wide open. The Wildcats also have had several players cancel visits including R.J. Barrett and Simi Shittu.

Point being, what was once a great Arizona class is on the cusp of dissolving completely. We know O’Neal is at least reconsidering, and you’ve got to wonder if Quinerly will ever play a second of college basketball since it’s pretty obvious his parents accepted money. Does he go back out onto the open market? And even if he does, does any school touch him, knowing that he could be facing 1) A thorough investigation and 2) And a possible suspension? Furthermore, let’s keep in mind that there are other five-stars committed here (Arizona’s Brandon Williams, USC’s Taeshon Cherry). How long until both of these guys decommit? It will be fascinating to watch.

By the way, and this is totally unrelated, but you know what my favorite recruiting subplot of this week was? It was Roy Williams coming out with a strong stance after the investigation was announced… only to accept a commitment a few days later from Nassir Little, one of the players directly implicated by the FBI in this case (for what it’s worth, Little’s AAU team has come out strongly and denied any wrongdoing on the player’s part).

I’m not sure whether “Hypocrisy 101” is one of the bogus classes players took at UNC that the NCAA is currently investigating. But it’s definitely in the curriculum in Chapel Hill.

Coach’s jobs going forward

We know Rick Pitino is out at Louisville. We know that the four assistants directly implicated from Arizona, USC, Oklahoma State and Auburn have all been fired, and that two of Louisville’s additional assistant coaches are on administrative leave. And we know that more coaches could be implicated down the line.

But here’s a hot take for you: Based on the information we have now (which is always subject to change) I don’t believe any head coach will lose their job.

For starters, Oklahoma State’s Mike Boynton got the job roughly 10 minutes ago. He feels safe. So too does USC’s Andy Enfield who has no previous history with the NCAA. Sean Miller and Bruce Pearl are where it gets interesting though.

With Miller, I think it’s fair to question if he “knew” his assistant was committing a series of violations, but I also feel pretty confident that — again, based on what we know — the NCAA or FBI can prove it. You know what makes me think that? His AD and President waited a full week to come out with statements defending him, which were released earlier this week. You think if this were all about Miller’s job they’d have waited a week to make a statement? Or you think that because they waited a week, it means that they took their time and fully vetted him? I think it’s the latter.

As for Bruce Pearl at Auburn, that one is even more interesting. It’s easy to look at Pearl and say “Of course Pearl was cheating, this guy has been in trouble with the NCAA before!” But if you read the FBI’s affidavit, it’s clear that his assistant coach Chuck Person went out of his way to keep payments discrete. Person essentially told the player involved (believed to be Austin Wiley) to keep things quiet, and is specifically quoted in the affidavit telling Wiley not to share the information with anyone, including most family and his teammates. To which I ask, how could Pearl possibly have known?

Whether you believe Pearl is clean or not is up to you. But I think it will be hard for Auburn or the NCAA to prove that in this case he had any knowledge that this was going on in his program.

How does Louisville find a new head coach?

Over the last few weeks it’s been amazing for me to see so many big names associated with this job. First of all, the idea that was first floated around last week that anyone from the outside of the program was going to come in and take over this job a week before the season started was preposterous. No coach was doing that, and I found it hard to believe that with so much uncertainty, even an unemployed coach like Tom Crean would take the job without the guarantee of a long-term deal beyond this season. If you’re Crean would you really consider taking this job in October knowing that a tough season is ahead, with no idea what the future will bring in terms of more details or NCAA penalties?

To extrapolate this to the next level: Are we sure Louisville is going to be able to get a good coach after this season either?

Look, under perfect circumstances I think everyone would agree Louisville is one of the 10 best jobs in the sport. The thing is though, these are far from perfect circumstances, and — as mentioned above — there is no resolution date in sight. Therefore, assuming that we don’t get clarification from the NCAA in the coming days, weeks or months, what leads anyone to believe that Louisville is in line to get a signature coach at the end of the season? You think Chris Mack, Mick Cronin or Gregg Marshall is leaving a job where they make good money, have things rolling (all three could legit make the Final Four this year) to go to a place that could get crushed by the NCAA? You’re out of your mind.

The first step in this process is for Louisville to find an AD, and even then I don’t think we’ll be significantly closer to figuring out who the next head coach is. But if I were a Louisville fan right now I wouldn’t be holding my breath that a big name will come in and save this program come March or April.

So now that we know about the present, what’s next?

It goes without saying that more names will come out. For starters, since the initial report came out, the FBI has raided Nike’s grassroots EYBL division and Andy Miller’s agency. Also, with coaches and Adidas executives looking at jail time, it stands to reason that they will be flipping and sharing whatever information they have as well.

The question now is this: How many names will end up wrapped up in this mess? I saw someone suggest the number sit at 100+ people involved in and around college basketball. Yet the more I think about it, the more I’m not sure that’s the case. The simple truth is that in terms of the FBI, their end game here has never been to clean up college basketball. So ultimately, do they really care about coaches flipping on other coaches? Do they really care about catching other guys funneling $5,000 or $10,000 to players? I don’t think so. What they’re interested in catching are the big fish, and right now we’re still not sure who those big fish are. Agents? Shoe companies? It’s certainly not the third assistant at some middle-of-the-pack Big 12 school, I can tell you that.

Therefore I’d be surprised if we get too many more names involved in college basketball itself. We’ll get some, but I don’t think it’s in the hundreds like some have suggested. Frankly, I’d be much more concerned if I was a high-ranking exec at a sneaker company or agency right now.

Still, any school could get involved in this mess

Just because I think that the FBI’s sweep of college basketball won’t be massive, it doesn’t mean that other schools — even if it’s only a few — won’t become involved. To which I’ll stand by something I’ve said since this investigation broke: I don’t think any Power 5 school should feel great right now.

That’s not to say that every school cheats or every top player takes money. But some schools do cheat, and if we’ve learned anything this week, it’s that even if a head coach might think he’s running a clean program, their assistants might be acting differently.

Again, I don’t think we’re headed for the fall of college basketball, or hundreds of assistants getting busted. But there will be some. And no school should feel 100 percent safe right now.

What about the future of college basketball?

Over the last week, I’ve gone back and forth on this a bit. Based on a number of different conversations I’ve had, I could see wide-sweeping changes. In other cases, I kind of see minimal change at best.

One thing that I do believe is inevitable is that this scandal is the eventual death-knell for the “one-and-done” rule. Remember, the “one and done” is an NBA rule, and it’s a rule Adam Silver has been railing against for a while now. And this could be the push he gets to eliminate it altogether.

Now to the bigger question which many have asked: Will this scandal change the amateurism model as we know it? Will we see players be allowed to sign autographs for money or collect profits from the use of their likeness (such as jersey sales). Heck it’s something that even John Calipari suggested earlier this week.

The easy answer here is “yes,” but at the same time I’m not totally positive. As my buddy Kent Sterling (a radio host in Indianapolis) pointed out to me on-air the other day, the payment of college players under the table has gone on for decades. Heck, there are documented cases of football players taking cash back in the 1920’s. And things haven’t changed yet. Maybe this is the push that’s needed. Maybe it’s not.

My hunch is that some change could come way down the road. But not any time soon.

Finally, cheating will never stop

Let me wrap up with this: Over the last week I’ve heard a lot of suggestion that this scandal will somehow “clean up” college basketball. I don’t buy that for a second. Even if we take away the one-and-done, even if we allow players to have agents, it will never eliminate cheating.

And you know why? Because college basketball coaches are making life-changing money right now. And just as long as we’re going to continue to pay coaches millions of dollars, there are always going to be two things: Head coaches who want to keep those jobs, and assistant coaches who want to get those jobs. And you know what the easiest way to either get or keep a multi-million dollar coaching job? Get the best players.And as long as that’s the case, there will always be cheating.

Understand that while a lot will change in college basketball over the coming years, this is one thing that won’t.

Aaron Torres is covering football and basketball for KSR this season after four years at Fox Sports. Follow him on Twitter @Aaron_TorresFacebook or e-mail at [email protected]. He is also the author of the only book written on the Calipari era, “One and Fun: A Behind the Scenes Look at John Calipari and the 2010 Kentucky Wildcats.”

Article written by Aaron Torres

Aaron Torres is covering football and basketball for KSR this season after four years at Fox Sports. Follow him on Twitter @Aaron_Torres, Facebook or e-mail at [email protected] He is also the author of the only book written on the Calipari era, “One and Fun: A Behind the Scenes Look at John Calipari and the 2010 Kentucky Wildcats.”

23 Comments for Getting you caught up on the latest with college basketball’s FBI scandal

  1. wesmorgan1
    3:29 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

    Off-topic, but I don’t see any way to ask these questions elsewhere…

    1) I posted a comment to an October 3rd article on the night of Oct 3rd, and it still shows up with “This comment is awaiting moderation.” My other comments, before and after, have gone through with no problems or delays. If you aren’t going to review comments within 6 days, why block them “awaiting moderation”?

    2) Is there a page on KSR that simply lists past articles in newest-to-oldest order? Now that it takes so long for pages to load with all the ads, going back to find an article is a slow/tedious process. I backtrack quite often to see what others have had to say about various articles, and it would be REALLY nice to have an “All Articles” page that lists all the titles.

    • J-Dub421
      3:50 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

      1. Whatever moderates comments is a bot. There doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. I’ve had many completely innocuous comments get moderated, while other can swear or be vulgar and their posts get through. Usually if a comment doesn’t get posted within a few hours, it’s gone into the ether and will never see the light of day.

      2. If you can remember the title of the article, or the date it was written, try the search bar over on the right. —->

      Obviously I don’t work for KSR, but these are my observations as a long time poster/things that have worked for me in the past. Hope this helps.

    • J-Dub421
      3:53 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

      *while others, not other.

      I wish there was an edit feature as I always notice my typos right after I hit “post comment.”

    • 4everUKblue
      8:52 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

      I second the adding of an edit feature.

  2. Reuben Cuban
    3:44 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

    In re the Louisville situation:

    First, and for several days, NEITHER Pitino NOR Jurich were fired.

    Let’s be clear on that.

    They were placed on “unpaid Administrative Leave”.

    Second, having a substantial amount of money remaining contractually and – at his, or his formidable attorney’s request – decided to sue the University for breach of contract.

    This led to Pitino’s subsequent “firing” – which still has not been resolved.

    Tom Jurich is still on “UAL” – at UofL.

    He is going no where.

    In fact, Tom Jurich, AD on “UAL” at UofL, will return – following the interim AD’s limited tenure…. which concludes April, 2018.

    • J-Dub421
      3:56 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

      Both have contracts that stipulate the manner in which they can be fired. Firing requires Board approval. Postel is simply following the procedures put in place for firing Pitino and Jurich. That process is simply playing out.

    • secrick
      3:59 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

      Wrong, Jurich is gone. AND Aaron you are wrong to, Louisville will get the death penalty in Basketball .

    • IAmTheDanger
      4:09 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

      RC, I think jurich is on paid AL isn’t he? I know pitino was on UAL and will be until he gets kicked to the curb. And, won’t we know the fate of jurich when the board meets in about 2 weeks?

  3. RickE
    5:31 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

    I too wish there was an edit feature here, as my vision causes me to make mistakes.

  4. j4stone
    6:27 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

    Just my opinion, but if Pitino AND Jurich are fired, I would agree that they won’t get the death penalty. However, if Jurich is retained, I believe the death penalty will still be on the table because they only fixed part of the problem. The head of the monster needs to be cut completely off.

  5. runningunnin.454
    6:42 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

    Whew, do you get paid by the word? Ha ha, just kidding…good article.
    I said over a week ago, that UL won’t get the death penalty, for reasons you mentioned. It seemed Pitino and Jurich were both out, and you’re right, the NCAA doesn’t want to use the dp. However, TV bans and post season bans are still on the table. Neither are good for recruiting.
    UL should follow through with Jurich’s ouster, and keep this interim president…they could use some integrity and backbone; of course, it will kill a lot of our fun.

    • 4everUKblue
      8:56 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

      Rethinking the whole firing Pitino and Jurich thing. It was like waiting for the next episode of reality TV to see what the next scandal would be. Nothing to look forward to with little brother now…..sad.

  6. mcp157
    7:33 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

    I have a question. Does all the extra problems/scandalous actions that have been uncovered the last few weeks make it easier for the NCAA to strip U of Hell of its last hoops championship?

    • lribookend
      8:09 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

      Interesting Question mcp157. My gut response is no, that decision has already been made and more recent developments, not yet part of an NCAA investigation, are not deciding factors. You can’t have a constantly moving target. The prior investigation is complete, the penalties are decided, uofl’s response certainly won’t mention them. So, NO.

    • mcp157
      12:27 pm October 7, 2017 Permalink

      Not sure I agree. I think this U of L situation is dynamic and not static. But only time will tell.

  7. CatsGrad04
    8:18 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

    Respectfully, your points are at odds with themselves. First, you say categorically that UL will not receive the death penalty without offering any support other than firing Pitino was their “get-out-of-jail-free card.” But is it? How could you possibly know that? You’re falsely equating a causal relationship when it isn’t clear that one exists (I’d go so far as to say it’s doubtful that one exists). You then undermine that argument by pointing out that you have no idea what the NCAA will do. Yet you’re adamant you know what they won’t do. Did I miss an announcement in which the NCAA stated they’ve taken the death penalty off the table but will consider all other options? If so, then I withdraw my objections. If not, then having no idea what they will do includes not knowing what they won’t do.

    Personally, I don’t believe they will get the death penalty (I’m not that lucky), but I wouldn’t rule it out based on my opinion of an organization that does not seem to be behold to its own precedent.

    • Catuary
      10:06 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

      I agree. Louisville could get the death penalty for two reasons:
      1. They didn’t really clean house. They promoted an assistant to interim HC, and Jurich might be back. They had no choice but to get rid of Rick and I doubt the NCAA will give them much credit for that alone.
      2. This is one of the greatest NCAA scandals in history, complete with FBI wiretaps. It has given the NCAA such a black eye they very well may throw the book at Louisville to try to regain some credibility as a governing body.

  8. lribookend
    8:26 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

    Pitino and Jurich are out, just administrative procedures to be followed to allow offical termination of their contracts. Assuming both are out, the NCAA will not impose the dealth penalty. As for them getting a big name basketball coach anytime in the next 9 months, the asnwer is no. If Padget exceeds expectations, they may need to extend his interim status another year, or even give him a 3 year contract with no extentions to be the caretaker/placeholder coach until more is known about future sanctions. Their best bet to avoid keeping Padget is either 1) Hire a young, aslpiring, successful young coach who will take the risk to have the opportunity to shine, or 2) an aging coach near the end of his career who did not succeed on the big stage, but will bring some name recognition, perhaps help recruiting, and just keep the ship afloat for a few years and to pad his retirement income. Tom Crean, Tubby Smith (partially joking), Avery Johnson, any coach with some name recognition who will take the job for the money for a few years before retiring.

  9. daveUK1
    8:38 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

    To echo the above comment: Aaron, you are misleading your audience in several ways. Your entire post is only YOUR opinion, i.e. conjecture, but you phrase each paragraph like it is a statement of fact without reminding the reader with the qualifier “in my opinion.”

    No, the death penalty is not off the table, until the NCAA formally says so, and no one knows what they will do until they do it. It’s just that simple. Their response is still being formulated, and IN MY OPINION heavily dependent on how the FBI investigation progresses and how high the pile of manure ends up, both at Louisville and college basketball in aggregate. For example, we just learned today of the presence of Christian Dawkins on campus, which is a huge development.

    Another thing – Congress could decide to step in and reform the NCAA model. An argument could be made within the realm of antitrust law that could serve as a catalyst to even disband the NCAA and replace it with something else. I highly doubt it, but these are crazy times we live in.

    • TBW3011
      7:17 am October 7, 2017 Permalink

      Not sure how anyone could possibly not see this article is Aaron’s opinion. At no point in time did it come across as fact. And he’s right IN MY OPINION, death penalty is not happening.

  10. Ruppstartedit
    11:28 pm October 6, 2017 Permalink

    In the old days at every school where alumni would be candid, there was a men’s clothing store where the star athlete could get free clothes. Now it seems only cold hard cash will do. My “RP can do no wrong” friend Uof L grad says Pitino knew nothing and this whole scandal is because RP could no longer deal with assistants out on their own. I had to laugh.

    • CPACAT
      8:40 am October 7, 2017 Permalink

      Kids don’t wear “Men’s clothing” anymore…I guess you could say that’s part of the problem…all anyone this age wants is athletic clothing…

  11. mcp157
    12:31 pm October 7, 2017 Permalink

    But of course the biggest question that isn’t being asked is will Slick Rick keep his Cardinal tattoo?