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Andy Katz says Louisville could be subject to a Level 1 case

Andy Katz’s three-point shot today is all about the Louisville scandal. Katz spoke to an NCAA expert who gave him the rundown on the penalties the Cards could face. The expert said IF the allegations are proven true, Louisville would be subject to a Level 1 case. What does that mean? According to Katz:

  • Recruiting sanctions
  • Coach game suspensions
  • Scholarships taken away
  • Postseason ban

The expert also said the NCAA will require full cooperation from current players, former players, and recruits, and that historically, if the allegations aren’t categorically denied immediately, that’s not a good sign for the school. So far, no one in the Louisville administration, especially Rick Pitino, has denied anything except knowledge of the situation.

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68 Comments for Andy Katz says Louisville could be subject to a Level 1 case

  1. Echo1
    1:35 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    I’m going to Louisville this weekend (unfortunately not on a recruiting visit). There’s a 50/50 shot I leave alive after rubbing this some of the fan’s faces. I’ll take my chances.

  2. THE MAN
    1:36 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    How can Pitino survive this?

    • Joe
      1:50 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      Because James Ramsey is a dirty university president and Tom Jurich is a dirty athletic director who really is acting as the mayor of the city of Louisville in all meaningful aspects. That’s why.

    • Rixter
      4:45 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      How? The university president doesn’t care, and Pitino’s boss, the Athletic Director doesn’t care. That’s how. Just win, baby!

    • Tom Jurich
      5:29 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      Do you not, L1C4 minute, that Rick and Ramsey and I discussed this ad infinitum, considering all scenarios: Best case, worst case. All ye who laugh? Continue the continue while we, THE University of Louisville ( not JCC) laugh all the way to the bank.

  3. leon singleton
    1:42 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    To hell with Louisville North Carolina is the one I want punished.

    • RealCatsFan
      1:57 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      I want them both hammered, and drag Duke into it while we’re at it.

    • Murica
      2:19 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      UNC violations are small time now. The shameful acts committed by UL really makes all of America look like a third world country, and UL is essentially the Taliban of North America. If the NCAA doesn’t punish UL, I would be in favor of sending in the Marines to clean out that cesspool.

    • WTF
      2:42 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      (Murica) That had to be the most ignorant comment I have read on here and I have read numerous comments that blew my mind how stupid people are.

  4. Huh?
    1:43 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    Don’t know what the various levels of sanctions are but no mention of games being forfeited for ineligle players? If not than other than Pitino leaving seems UL won’t get hit that hard

    • doc
      1:45 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      I doubt they will take any games away. Unless they can prove that a player came to UofL only because of this mess, it’s next to impossible to declare anyone ineligible.

    • TeamNoSheep
      1:51 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      Removing scholarships, limiting recruiting activities (or TV appearances), and taking UL out of the postseason would destroy their ability to recruit. It would probably push some current players to transfer. In short, it would take years for UL to recover. Retroactively taking away wins doesn’t really hurt anyone but the coaches ego.

      The thing that bothers me is that Rick could probably resign and have a new job by next weekend. He’d escape scot-free unless he stays to “take his whipping” or the NCAA institutes a show-cause penalty, which I’d doubt they’d do to a HOF coach.

    • matt
      2:02 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      it doesn’t just have to be a recruit that came because of strippers. Up until last year coaches couldn’t even provide jelly for athletes to put on their bagels, a coach paying for strippers to perform for current players is most definitely an impermissible benefit. If McGee paid for strippers to perform for Behanan that is a violation.

    • Kevin Ollie
      2:06 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      UConn won the national title one year after their postseason ban. I can’t recall who they beat.

    • matt
      2:07 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      well played

    • Questioner
      2:08 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      Didn’t they take games away from cal and pennsyl st? Why would this be any different?

    • memphis
      2:27 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      Cal and Penn State didn’t win national championships. If they had lost to Michigan, they might take their banner but I don’t see them taking a championship.

    • ukjaybrat
      2:43 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      @memphis, but what about their final four year? just bc they won a championship, they’re going to leave all the games in place?

      Personally, I think taking or leaving games based on whether or not a team won a championship is just stupid. a violation is a violation. games are games, whether it includes an NC or not.

    • Ha!
      2:56 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      If the NCAA really wanted to prevent this stuff from happening in the future, you would think they WOULD strip a title. Now would be a good time to start.

      Self-imposed sanctions are just a slap on the wrist. You start taking banners, coaches might actually start making sure this shit doesn’t happen.

    • Sunni about that
      3:15 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      Doc, don’t know if they have ever had to prove a recruit came to a school because of impermissible benefits such as money or hookers. What about Marcus Camby? Took benefits from an agent as a senior which made him ineligible. These UL guys are certainly then ineligible.

    • doc
      3:18 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      Expecting to make sense of anything the NCAA does is a waste of time. They may hit the hard, they may not. It just depends on which way the wind is blowing that day.

  5. Davender's Goggles
    1:43 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    If the allegations are true (and it’s looking more and more like they are), whether Pitino knew about it or not is really beside the point – he has to be fired either way. I think he’s made it perfectly clear he ain’t resigning, and as close as him and TJ are, it’s almost hard to envision him being fired… but I don’t see how they can expect anyone to take them seriously as a program if they keep him.

  6. EverythingsBlue
    1:46 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    Is it me, or does Katz seem a bit…..ummmmmmm…..”rattled” by the potential ramifications for Louisville AND Pitino?

  7. Phantom
    1:46 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    The way I look at it, with how the NCAA treated Coach Cal in the Rose thing, where they had NO proof, it would be a travesty if they didn’t forfeit some wins in UofL’s case here which appears to have LOTS of proof.

    • Wait!
      3:23 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      If they can’t take down banners for USING HOOKERS to get those banners then they have no business sanctioning anybody for anything.

    • Megan
      1:24 am October 10, 2015 Permalink

      True, the NCAA had no proof in the Rose case. To this day the NCAA doesn’t know whether Rose took that test. The point you’re missing, however, is that the ETS invalidated his score for other reasons (noncooperation). That’s why the ETS punished him, and that’s why the NCAA found that, without a valid score, Rose was, in hindsight, never eligible to play. You can argue the NCAA should never have applied the ETS action retroactively, but you can’t pretend it had no grounds for taking the action it took.

      It’s not as simple as saying the NCAA had no proof. The bottom line was Rose had no score.

  8. Buck Naked
    1:51 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    After the NCAA botched the Miami football scandal and the North Carolina basketball scandal…..why would anyone put faith in the NCAA? They have no credibility or ability to enforce any penalties now.
    Louisville will be in and out of the news all season and then some random report will come out next summer when nobody is paying attention to college basketball.

    • CatsRus
      8:59 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      Seems the NCAA is just a shadow of its old self. Imposing sanctions on players who probably weren’t around when the violations happened. Nowadays the schools lawyer up and the NCAA sort of wilts under that pressure.
      Because of RP’s work with the Cats, I would be in favor of post season bans, limited recruits, no TV or Post Season and keep RP on as damaged goods. Let these people who have hooted and howled at Coach Cal get the feel of the shoe on their foot.

  9. Duff
    1:56 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    That program is toast, but as of right now I do not see Pitino going anywhere. He already said he is not resigning and there does not seem to be much evidence to suggest he knew. If there was evidence, it more than likely would have been in that book. Powell is the only one who said Pitino knew, and she has not provided any hard evidence. If U of L can keep Pitino separate from Magee, then they keep him.

    • Davender's Goggles
      2:06 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      That’s a good point – there likely is no evidence that proves Pitino knew about it. Although to most any objective party that seems completely implausible, they will only fire him if there is proof he knew about it…. makes me wonder if the pressure becomes intense enough for Magee, would he spill it all. I guess this is obvious, but he seems like the huge X factor in all of this.

      The truth of the matter is, we know the NCAA takes months to decide on much less complex situations than this – this will likely be a long, long process.

    • ukjaybrat
      2:45 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      syracuse and smu would disagree with the notion that “not knowing” is good enough to not be in trouble. even if pitino isn’t fired, he won’t be on the sideline for a third (or more) of the season

    • Wait, it's Louisville
      3:26 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      I certainly hope they do keep Pitino because after the two banners come down for ineligible players we will be able to make fun of them forever. And there is no moral argument that they got rid of him. … As if they had any morals.

    • Duff
      4:21 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      Louisville knows they are in trouble. A lot of trouble. But, if I’m Louisville, I am going to do my best to keep Pitino. Distance myself from him for now? Yes. But, if I am thinking in terms of my program’s future, who am I going to attract to replace him? No one! Louisville is not an elite program, but they do have an elite coach. If there’s nothing there to connect Pitino to Magee, and enough there to solely put this on Magee, I keep Pitino. Louisville is just waiting for all the facts to come out.

  10. Smyrna_Cat
    2:03 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    It is hard to imagine this not being partially (or mostly … completely?) true based on comments from UL. I expect many ex players will probably try to offer as little info as possible since the NCAA has no impact on them. Existing players and recruits that went to other schools will be a lot more direct and upfront. I expect everyone will try hard to avoid any discussion of sex. For me, the biggest question is whether McGee cuts a deal (he might if the evidence against him is as strong as it appears to be) or if he keeps quiet.

    I think UL reaches an agreement with Pitino for him leaving.

  11. CreatedAndContinues
    2:07 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    Ricky = affair in restaurant w/ basketball staff present, paid for woman’s abortion, then extorted by woman

    Bobby = affair w/ co-worker, then terminated from former employer

    Chris Jones = accused of raping two women at Cardinal Towne Apartments, kicked off basketball team, then placed on house arrest

    Devonte Fields = offered football scholarship after assaulting girlfriend, resulting in South Carolina’s Mr. Football, Matt Colburn to have his scholarship pulled for a gray-shirt

    Carmon Polk = former football player who discovered Dani Cogswell (UofL Cheerleader) dead in his Cardinal Towne Apartment from a drug overdose, Carmon was kicked off the football team months later for drug trafficking charges

    Andre McGee = pending…

    • Wait!
      3:21 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      What about the lawsuit against the university over the player savagely beaten in the locker room, suffering facial fractures, almost losing an eye and requiring urgent care then being asked to cover it up? The two guilty players were kicked off for assault charges.

  12. UKBlue!
    2:09 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    I’ll believe UL gets punished the day the NCAA makes a announcement. Before it is all said and done. The Whore will end up in prison for pimping her underage daughter. I am sure the DA office in Louisville is working hard to clean the mess up.

  13. Tej
    2:11 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    The question is whether the NCAA will rule within the next 2-3 years. We certainly want and expect a thorough investigation of any violation no matter the school. But, we’ve learned that for some unknown reason, the NCAA does not act with any speed. The UNC investigation has gone on for a couple years and there’s no reason to believe UL’s will be any shorter. The issues and the evidence in these cases are not overly complicated. Surely, 6 months is adequate time to interview witnesses, conduct a hearing, and rule.

    • Huey
      8:48 am October 10, 2015 Permalink

      It took them 8 yrs to investigate the Cuse, and they self-reported. UNC, with the cooperation of the NCAA, is dragging their investigation out so it doesn’t risk losing this year when they might win it all.

  14. NCAA
    2:13 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    We take care of our own, and UK is not one of ours since you took Terrence Jones. Kansas, Duke U of L and N Carolina came to us on their knees, where they belong. They know how to grovel the right way. Skal will never see the court at UK! We call it Kantering a recruit!

    2:18 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    Louisville is toast, who cares they weren’t going to be good anyway …. So if Blakaney and his dad excepted services from the whores. Doesn’t that make Bakeney ineligible? I mean talk about IMPERMISSIBLE BENEFITS. If they try to pull this petty crap with Skal, you have to think about this too right?

  16. Shaka
    2:23 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    McGee will not cut any deals. His lawyer is a big UL alum. Wasn’t he the same guy who represented Chris Jones? Curious where not so wealthy guys like Jones and Mcgee get the money to pay for these expensive attorneys or maybe they are just working for free to help out their favorite school? Louisville athletes never seem to have a problem finding money to pay professionals.

    • ukjaybrat
      2:50 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      McGee will take the fall and get a HUGE paycheck in the mail in exchange for keeping his mouth shut

    • J-Dub421
      3:07 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      Hopefully the NCAA will follow the money trail. There is simply no way that McGee had the funds to do this by himself.

    • Megan
      1:30 am October 10, 2015 Permalink

      What do you know about McGee’s funds?

  17. Computer Blue
    3:09 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    Jurich is the person responsible for this. Due to his suppression of the media in Louisville he has lowered the accountable of his self and department. That has lead to this travesty along with the taxpayer theft of the Yum Center.

    • George
      3:44 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink


  18. catheaven
    3:25 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    Now you all know the NCAA is NOT consistent in its rulings. Never has been and never will be. That’s why it should be abolished. And what is bothering me is that with all the time required of the NCAA to investigate Lou, UNC, and who knows who else, when will they have time to make a ruling on Skal? The season is knocking on our door.

  19. [email protected]
    3:35 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    I love the quotes from Pitino that “I don’t know what resigning would accomplish, I think that’s the cowardly way out.” And how he was upset the President didn’t mention him in his new conference. Really? Take a hint. Just because you don’t want to resign doesn’t mean you’ll be coaching next year!

  20. smackdab
    3:39 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    Anybody else remember when they took your game off of TV? Man that was a sucky season.

  21. Duperclay
    4:08 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    The NCAA wiped out the Gophers final four year in 97 after it was found that school work was done for some of the players. Academic fraud. They got hit hard as far as recruiting sanctions go. But the coach Clem Haskins was proven right away that he was heavily involved in it all.

  22. Stitch Jones
    4:28 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    Nail these losers….You cannot ignore the long history of Louisville sports being so corrupt…. The national media is shining a light on this story and is starting to realize what we have been saying for a long time. Jurich, Pirino and Petrino are win at all cost scumbags. They speak of “being a Louisville Man”. If the example they put forth is it…I would never want to be one… The hypocrisy here is laughable….. My guess is Richard Pitino is somehow involved with this mess and it is going to get bad quickly…. I hope the NCAA does the right thing and punishes the program accordingly.

  23. Alex Peterson
    6:40 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    Of course a Kentucky cunt wrote this article. Smh

    • CATandMONKEY
      7:32 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      …and as you shake your head, listen to the rattling of the miniscule contents within. The article is simply reporting on the NATIONAL television commentary regarding the NCAA ‘s probable handling of the situation.

      Class is not a word nor concept with which you have familiarity, obviously.

    • Leuther
      10:11 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

      Mrs TT is an accomplished journalist at KSR…

    • Megan
      1:33 am October 10, 2015 Permalink

      How is this comment permitted to remain here? Does KSR have no standards whatsoever when it comes to offensive comments? This is about as offensive as it gets.

  24. Bluecat15
    8:17 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    Death penalty or bust

  25. Thaddaeus
    11:08 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    You guys act like the case is closed and louisville has already been proven guilty. You are part of the problem and belong in a Nathaniel Hawthorne book. Is it fulfilling to get on the internet and type about how much you want to see people you dont know get hammered before any real evidence has been made public. Self-righteous hypocrites.

    • Megan
      1:39 am October 10, 2015 Permalink

      They’re fans. And fans naturally want to see a bitter rival suffer.

      Why do you find that so strange? The mistake you’re making is holding them to the same standard as a rational and dispassionate observer. They aren’t judges. They’re fans.

  26. Thaddaeus
    11:18 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    Stitch Jones…Pitino came to UK to clean up the program after the Emory Scandal of 1989. Better look in the mirror before talking about Louisvilles long history of cheating when UK almost received the death penalty. Woops!

    • Megan
      1:40 am October 10, 2015 Permalink

      That’s not a denial.

  27. Thaddaeus
    11:32 pm October 9, 2015 Permalink

    One last thing, It proves how sad and pathetic UK fans are when a coach, Pitino, rebuilds your program after a scandal and wins you guys a championship after you were irrelevant for years and sets you up for another championship and you losers have no appreciation. You are the worse fanbase of any sport. You hated and pretty much ran Tubby out of town too. Your argument was that he won with Pitinos players.

    • Megan
      2:06 am October 10, 2015 Permalink

      After Boston, Rick had choices. It was absolutely classless to accept the head coaching position at Kentucky’s most hated rival. And if you can’t understand how such a betrayal pissed off Kentucky fans, then you’re as tone deaf as he was.

  28. Snakes
    8:56 am October 10, 2015 Permalink

    How come no one ever mentions the pictures released of Devin Booker in his Dodge Charger surrounded by escorts licking his car?

  29. Every school does it
    10:33 am October 10, 2015 Permalink


  30. Kittystuff
    1:58 pm October 10, 2015 Permalink

    My son attended UK from 2008 – 2012 and he told me he and his friends regularly went to strip clubs in Lexington and every hick town in between. They constantly snuck girls in their rooms and other types of unscrupulous behavior prevalent on every campus. You All are the biggest liars and hypocrites that ever lived!!! And to talk about Pitino, the same Pitino that brought UK back to relevancy from their NCAA scandal in the 80’s. He’s about maintaining the rules at universities, not breaking them. Read the great response to the Sports Illustrated article about Louisville. The outstanding response was written by a current student at UofL.

    Remember this…what comes around, goes around. Take your tongues out of your cheeks, UK is not above reproach.

  31. Vic Owens
    5:32 am October 11, 2015 Permalink

    Really people. It is not the end of the world.

  32. Vic Owens
    5:35 am October 11, 2015 Permalink

    We will survive this. We Are U of L!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!