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Where Would UK’s Second Five Be Ranked?

Without a doubt UK is going to be the favorite to hang banner number nine next season. The class is stacked, the team is loaded, and the staff is ready for revenge on all the teams that stole one last year. The team is going to be crazy good, so good that the second starting five would be a top 20 team in the nation. Assuming the staring 5 is going to be The Harrisons, Poythress, Randle and WCS then that would make the next five

1. Polson

2. Young

3. Wiltjer

4. Lee

5. Johnson

 

Four McDonalds All-Americans and a senior point guard who has battled against the likes of Brandon Knight and Marquis Teague. That’s arguably the best group coming off the bench in the history of college basketball. But where would it land amongst the starting fives around the country? This week on the radio show Matt and Ryan said that team would easily be picked to finish third in the SEC behind the first five and Florida. I’d say that’s pretty hard to argue with. How about on the national scene? Let’s take a look.

A few weeks ago Jason King of ESPN listed his top 20 for next season as follows:

Kentucky

Louisville

Michigan State

Arizona

Duke

Ohio State

Florida

Syracuse

Michigan

Oklahoma St

UNC

Wichita St

VCU

Memphis

Marquette

New Mexico

Gonzaga

Baylor

Tennessee

Indiana

King wrote this piece before Wiggins committed and before UT lost Golden but besides that I’d say this list is pretty solid. So where would the second five be ranked. I don’t think they would be there among the top ten. That group is made up of Final Four teams, solid returning players, and the great teams next year. Our second five could probably play with them but there is just too many unknowns to say they would be better than those top 11 teams. After that things open up a bit more and I could see our second group settling in around with those mid-majors. VCU, Memphis, and Gonzaga won’t have close to the level of talent of that second group and I think it’s safe to say our second group would be ranked in the top fifteen.

When you can say that about the second five off the bench then you know it’s going to be a fun year. Where would you place that group of backups?

 

Article written by Andrew Cassady

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30 Comments for Where Would UK’s Second Five Be Ranked?



  1. Bobbum man
    8:37 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    14th-15th



  2. Mack
    8:37 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    It will be difficult to keep Young and Johnson out of the startig lineup not to mention a lot of time for Lee.



  3. ukfaninohio
    8:39 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    On paper id say you are correct.However on paper i don’t think this second five is much if any at all better than our starting five from last year and we know how that turned out.My guess is in reality you are probably pretty close though.



  4. Scooby
    8:39 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    Polson wouldn’t even be 2nd string Pg dummy… That goes to Dominique Hawkins…



  5. Nahh
    8:47 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    I agree with 3, Wiltjer couldn’t guard a 3. And I’m not totally sold on Marcus Lee just yet, he will be great Sophmore or junior but I think we might be overhyping this season, just like we’re doin with football. I still believe we’re going go to be crazy good!! GO CATS!!



  6. TDog
    8:57 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    What rank would our second five be ranked? #BBNProblems



  7. Real
    9:02 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    Sorry. If Polson is in the top 5 the second 5 loses all chance Polson is an NAIA type player. Hawkins is better from day 1.



  8. J Mays
    9:12 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    If I can get NBA team to give me tryouts, then Polson can get a NBA tryout. Kentucky Effect!



  9. Real UK Fan
    9:15 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    The problem with the second five, assuming that is really the second five, is that there is no point guard. Polson is apparently a good kid and a hard worker, but he does not have the skills to play point guard at a high level. The second five would be just average or less primarily because of him. You can have even a good team without a good point guard.



  10. bigbluetrue
    9:25 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    Agree with #2. Young and Johnson are definitely ballers- especially Young. I feel he is the most under-rated player on the team.. I believe he will contribute major minutes this year.



  11. mudcreekmark
    9:26 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    If you put Hawkins in there at point guard, they may be able to compete in the SEC. We all think that Randle and the Harrison twins are going to be really special but I think we will have to wait and see if these others are going to be any better than this years freshmen.



  12. impossible to answer
    9:27 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    if you are just taking UKs second starting five and putting it up against the other top 20 teams starting 5, talent wise, UK would be solid, but lack of experience would be the issue. and the question itself is not fair since teams are ranked on the entire body of the players available. Since teams are ranked on the entire team, I think UK is clearly a top 5 team to start the season, and has the potential to be the best team in the country. It will all depend on how the team comes together. talent wise there is no question UK has everything you want. but i’d also say there are more top teir teams in the country this year than there probably has been in some time.



  13. jumpman78
    9:28 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    Memphis wouldn’t even have close to the level of talent as our second 5. Really? I love our team but that is just a bad statement.



  14. Montrezl
    10:10 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    I can dunk on every single one of those [email protected]



  15. comebacktorealitysoon
    10:38 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    why is everyone so convinced these frosh will be amazing? Does anyone remember Alex Poythress and Archie Goodwin’s play last season? We were all convinced they were going to be great and look what happened.



  16. What Reality?
    10:44 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    15. You gave two examples. What about Bledsoe, Wall, Cousins, Knight, Jones, Davis, MKG, Teague, and Noel? Why do Poythress and Goodwin’s play count more the players I listed?



  17. Mack
    10:57 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    After his play last season Poythress will have to beat out “frosh” for playing time and to a lesser degree so will WCS, both only started because there was no one else.



  18. mashburnfan1
    11:31 pm May 18, 2013 Permalink

    Lets see before last season started idiots on here and nationally picked UK from 3rd to 5th. These types of polls are so stupid. Only 2 of the 5 listed have ever played a game of college ball and those 2 are coming off an NIT loss. Some here say this group would lack experience, HELLO they would have as much or more experience than the starting 5. This entire group has the chance to do tremendous things but we will not know till prolly February how good they can be.



  19. Lol
    2:15 am May 19, 2013 Permalink

    Hahahaha 14. You can, and most certainly will.



  20. Jpo
    2:27 am May 19, 2013 Permalink

    16. Nailed it



  21. Duke blows
    4:50 am May 19, 2013 Permalink

    4&7) You’re crazy if you think Hawkins plays over Polson. Polson has had 4 years in the program plus has been threw the SEC and played a lot of meaningfully minutes! I don’t know if you have seen Hawkins play or not but he’s not that great.
    Give the kid 2 years then he may very well be as good or better the Polson, but no way he plays over him next year. Make no mistake Hawkins was only offered a ride for PR reasons. I’m tired of hearing about how Hawkins won the state Tournament. He had 4 other players on the court with him who where pretty damn good! If anyone watch the state tourney they would tell you Justice put on a lot better individual performance. Hell Hawkins couldn’t have started at PG on 2 14th region teams!!! Justice and Beverly are both better prospects and are already top 100 in their class!



  22. Nerlens
    8:29 am May 19, 2013 Permalink

    21 – I’m sorry, but Polson is not better than Hawkins. Polson isn’t a bad player to have at the end of the bench to help the team GPA, but as evidenced by last season he shouldn’t be in the rotation.

    Also, while I like our depth, I wouldn’t call our bench a Top 15 team. College basketball is much deeper this year and there are teams with McDonald’s All American’s that aren’t even in the Top 25.



  23. Katdaddy
    9:29 am May 19, 2013 Permalink

    Hey, Remember i told yall this. UL might be a better team, I hate it but its true.



  24. Maxbps8
    10:40 am May 19, 2013 Permalink

    Polson vs. Hawkins…In the end, Hawkins will be better. Right now? Not even close: Polson hands down and he proved this year. Mark my words, MARCUS LEE will be a UK favorite ranking up there w/ the best of all time. And, he could stay all four years. He will be a key contributor this year; moreso than many above think. And next year he will dominate along w/ James Young – AGREED, tho, most underrated player coming in but w/ this class who can complain.

    #11 after Okla State in front of unc.



  25. Maxbps8
    10:42 am May 19, 2013 Permalink

    I am just pumped that we are finally back to where we belong – even having this discussion. Imagine where we’d be if Cal had taken our advice from Day 1!?! Nah, let’s just appreciate where we are Right Now.)



  26. Stevie
    10:42 am May 19, 2013 Permalink

    #18, Season before last those who had UK ranked so high were right. This team has twice the talent of last season–maybe even three times the talent, plus depth, and more experience.

    I make no predictions, but this team could very well live up to their advanced billing.



  27. shep
    10:48 am May 19, 2013 Permalink

    best second five in uk history:

    1. turner
    2. sheppard
    3. edwards
    4. mercer
    5. pope



  28. Mc
    12:45 pm May 19, 2013 Permalink

    Polson vs. Hawkins who is the second string point guard? Does this really matter in terms of who actually runs the point when Andrew is out? Who backed up Teague? I’d say D. Lamb got some pretty good minutes at the point, even Darius Miller logged some minutes at the PG. I think Aaron Harrison will run a little point. Maybe even Young depending on his handle.



  29. Wes
    4:05 pm May 19, 2013 Permalink

    What did Poythress show you guys last year to make you think he will start over James Young??



  30. Newt
    8:01 pm May 19, 2013 Permalink

    Polson, #1 off the bench? Lot of respect for the strides he’s made and commitment he’s shown…but c’mon man. When Dominique went heads-up against ‘Drew Harrison in a game, he went for 29 and 7. That only speaks to the talent level he brings to the position. Heart and grit are no-doubt important, but not at the sacrifice of pure talent.