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When Dave Baker Speaks, We Listen…

Dave Baker has suggestions for the football program in his weekly contribution to KSR. Enjoy…


“He has a right to criticize, who has a heart to help.” Abraham Lincoln

It’s in THAT spirit that I come to you today w/ random thoughts–meant to help.

I don’t know what the method is for counting or “estimating” attendance at Commonwealth Stadium . Back in the day, I remember Assistant SID Rena Vicini simply looking out over the crowd & coming up with a number & that was the attendance. Whoever or however that number was arrived at on Saturday, I want them to the do the casting for a movie about Wildcat Athletics. In that flick Oscar Combs and I (if we even made it into the movie) would be played by Phillip Seymour Hoffman and Wilfred Brimley. But if the person who came up with the crowd number for Saturday were selecting we’d be looking at George Clooney and Sean Connery!

After two weeks of games, 16 SEC games have had a total of 1,179,298 fans, an average of 73,706 fans per game. The games have a 95.6 percentage of capacity so far this season. If you believe that Saturday number, Kentucky isn’t that far north of 75,000 after a TOTAL of two games. As I said last week–give EVERYONE a pass on Nashville–bad idea–worse execution–but Saturday? Some things have got to stop.

STOP producing music videos and simply ask fans to come to the games in your marketing campaign. “Rise” is well done–but what it is it? I’ll tell you that it’s NOT going door to door at dorms or frat & sorority houses and it’s NOT reaching out to people who have turned tickets back in–or who have NEVER gotten to go and saying to them, “you wanna come see the Cats–NOW’s your chance”. I was listening to the Bengals radio broqadcast on Sunday. In EVERY commercial break there was an ad trying to sell tickets. The Taco Bell dog was cute–but they stopped using him because he didn’t sell product. & Finally in this day age—is the ONLY way to reach out to fans via billboards or barns?

STOP acting like patrons should be eternally grateful for pouring out their hard earned money, when in these economic times–the UKAA should be eternally gratefully that people support their teams. Not EVERY complaint is valid–but don’t give folks the IMPRESSION that concerns and comments just get dismissed. After all isn’t “the customer always right”.

STOP acting like the stadium is your living room. Count this as a wholehearted endorsement of #TeamJennifer. Along those lines UK needs to pay special attention to that fan base “stadium experience”. If you’re a team is playing great, you’ll put up with some inconveniences and annoyances, but if not, how much easier it now because of the new TV contract (which the schools wanted) to stay & home & watch EVERY game on Hi-Def and if one game is bad–turning immediately to another Hi-Def game.

STOP going through the same pre-game routine if it’s going to result in the same lackluster pre-game start.

STOP practicing in the morning. World class runners train for their biggest events at the time & under conditions they’ll be competing in. I know class is sometimes a challenge–but let’s work around it. I don’t see the SEC going to a 9am kick-off.

STOP before you let your heart get the best of you think Kentucky should be a 7.5 point favorite over Louisville.

And finally STOP listening to coaches who say one play doesn’t make a difference. The Cat’s fourth down stop against CMU COMPLETELY turned that game around—and let’s hope THAT carries over to this week.

Article written by Drew Franklin

I can recite every line from Forrest Gump, blindfolded. Follow me on Twitter: @DrewFranklinKSR

35 Comments for When Dave Baker Speaks, We Listen…

  1. Kernel Sanders
    12:25 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    STOP throwing the ball 3 yards downfield on 3rd and 10!!!!

  2. Drew Greene
    12:30 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    This was great. Dave has become increasingly critical and I like it.

  3. Bung Jr.
    12:36 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    Patterson article on ESPN insider. A little help please.

  4. rhftwo
    12:37 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    I agree with a lot of this. The seats at the stadium are a commodity, and people pay precious money to go watch the Cats play. I will rely on the old “if it’s too loud, you’re too old” saying in reference to Team Jennifer. Those same folks are the ones that need to stay at home and watch the games on TV. And lastly, whoever decided on Nashville for the WKU game needs their ass handed to them. It’s a holiday weekend, it’s not a home game, and it’s WKU. That was dumb, dumber, and dumbest at their finest.

  5. BigBlueLove
    12:39 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    Right on Buzz!

  6. JackNicklaus
    12:48 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    A boring, uninspiring team will produce a bored, uninspired fanbase.

  7. robbie
    12:57 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    couldn’t agree more!!! tv contract and my lack of a parking pass keeps my rump on the couch most weekends instead of commonwealth stadium. that, and beer. sweet wonderful beer

  8. dranktoomuch
    1:00 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    Can we please get the Cat to slow down the post scoring C-A-T-S? Considering that the only fans yelling have drank too much, there is no way they can keep up.

  9. experienced
    1:01 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    Boy Drew, this post sure does speak the opinion of everyone not named you.

  10. depressed fan
    1:02 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    When the School and football program put together a team that’s even close to being worth the time of any fan to leave the comforts of their own home and HD televisions THEY’LL COME. I was at both game, but who wants to watch any team bore the socks off their own fan base. Maybe if adult beverages were sold at Commonwealth people may actually stay to watch them play. OR EVEN SHOW UP FOR THAT MATTER! What HOME TEAM boos their own school’s game play and decisions making skills?!?!!
    Culture has to change for this program to be worth a darn, and that ain’t happening over night! That culture was SLOWLY beginning to “RISE” (which is a joke in itself) and it now seems to be in a rush to drop back to the basement of the SEC.

  11. dranktoomuch
    1:06 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    Can we please have the Wildcat slow down the C-A-T-S? Sober fans can’t catch up, besides the drunk ones are the only ones that yell.

  12. tom
    1:10 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    When I played college ball, the practice start time the week preceding a game was ALWAYS the start time on Saturday. 7pm gametime Saturday..then start practive all week at 7pm. 1:30 kickoff Saturday, then start at 2. All players on the team had to have their last class scheduled to end by 2. That was a pre-req.

    Now, we never had a 12 noon start, that could be problematic with this system. I played back in the lats 70’s and early 80’s in old Big 8…so I recognize times have changed a bit with TV contracts.

    We were in Central time zone and played Colorado which was mountain time, an hour later, but coaches practiced us at what game time would be at our place…so body clocks would be on track. It made a difference, because your body was ready to go at kickoff and not sluggish.

  13. OldFaithful
    1:10 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    What negativity! Not surprising since this is Kentucky football. Let’s take it a step further…since this is Kentucky football there is no reason for fans to stand up. #SitdownTeamJennifer

  14. Carl
    1:16 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    Dave did you teach Drew to whine like a little girl or did you pick it up from him. The fact is people have other priorities besides spending the day being a spectator. The generation coming up prefers to participate in activities…not pacifly observe…and I never want to be bunched the Tenn, Ala or FL football fans. I don’t look good in orange, I have no desire to poison trees and the gator chomp is just stupid when you think about the people that have been attacked by alligators.
    So…lighten up, enjoy sitting on your duff and let the rest of us spend our day doing other things without being judged.

  15. CM Punk
    1:20 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    START editing Dave Baker’s posts for him. Some of the sentences really didn’t even make sense.

    STOP using hyphens and dashes in places that don’t call for them.

  16. Drew Franklin
    1:26 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    9. – Please learn to read. It will make things better for the both of us.

  17. Smooth Jazz
    1:47 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    11. – I agree with you completely. The C-A-T-S chant is WAY TOO FAST which makes it sound like a collective sneeze from the fanbase rather than a cheer. Listen to the Jets do the J-E-T-S chant and how much more emphasis they put on each letter.

  18. UK_Supporter
    2:01 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    Uninspiring fans will lead to an uninspired team. It works both ways. WKU: Flat crowd, flat game. CMU: Same thing until the interception… then the crowd livened up and so did the Cats.

    STOP deferring to the 2nd half when you win the coin toss at home. Again, if you want the crowd in the game, put your offense out on the field first. This might change when there is a strategic advantage to defer, but there was no reason in the world to defer against CMU.

    STOP leaving in the 3rd quarter… Actually let me rethink that. I’m pretty sure most of the 3rd quarter departures are TeamSitDown so might as well get them out ASAP so #TeamJennifer can make some noise.

    #14, if you don’t want to go to the game and participate, that’s fine you can sit at home and do whatever it is you do, but don’t show up at the game and be a stick in the mud and ruin it for everyone else. Stay at home and work on getting the sand out of your vadge, and maybe open a book so you can lear the difference between “passively” and “pacifly” (whatever the hell that is)

  19. Shawon
    2:01 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    Lots of valid points but man that was hard to read. Buzz needs an editor.

  20. Yesterdays
    2:05 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    I have an extra parking pass for sale if anyone needs one. Purple or Orange.

  21. brian
    2:09 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    How about not charge $81 for upper level tickets this weekend!!

  22. PaintItBlue
    2:20 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    19 – Agreed

    I’ve been thinking about this since the poor turn-out and fan reaction saturday: Does our intense craziness/love for basketball that causes us to be so over critical hurt our fan experience? I’ve noticed this at basketball games when Rupp is not as loud as it should be. I think it’s due to everyone in the place just being so nervous. If you’ve ever been to Kansas or Duke, those fans are just going crazy all the time but at UK we are so enthralled and worried about losing that i think sometimes, we forget to cheer. At the football games, our fans are too critical and all too quick to throw anyone they can under the bus. Yes, this team has looked terrible thus far this year but there is no excuse for the turn-out last sat and for Commonwealth not rocking w 70K strong

  23. STL_catfan
    2:43 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    I know the most important thing on the field is to win the game…first and foremost..but I have a comment to make about our field appearance !! It has to be one of the worst if not the worst in the is so bland…at least the UK logo could be outlined in Blue and the Kentucky in the endzones could be out lined in blue…as well as the SEC letters!! It just makes it look more like the other SEC school, whose fields look like big time college football programs… Ours looks like a glorified high school field…Like I said winning is the most important thing..but with recruits image is important…comments welcome.. Thanks

  24. Bledsoe's Biceps
    3:17 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    23) In the end zones, the word Kentucky is outlined in blue. But like you said, winning is the most important factor to improving attendance, fan enthusiasm, etc. Stand, sit, squat, lie down, I could care less. As long as those in attendance are enthusiastic, that is the important part. But good performance/effort and winning will always take care of that.

  25. Ugly muffin
    3:33 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    Dave baker can go suck a butt.

  26. jengland
    3:52 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    Symbiotic relationship. Fans need something to cheer about other than a 50 yard punt. The same fans show up to basketball games except the basketball team typically ignites the floor therefore igniting the crowd. More kentucky football first downs equals more kentucky football fans energy. Crowd noise will soon follow once the offense puts up the points.

  27. gottodoit
    3:57 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    Please take the microphone away from Screamin’ Dave Baker.

  28. gottodoit
    4:03 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    Please take the mic away from Screamin’ Dave Baker.

  29. glensboro icon
    7:38 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    i am not saying that this is the only problem, but the cost of tickets now are getting out of hand. it was not that long ago that i was giving about $700 for 4 season tickets. last year i gave up my tickets because i was going to have to give $400 each just for the right to buy them. i would love to be at the stadium on gamedays but financially i just can’t do it anymore. and my story isn’t the only one like this. i wish that i could go but i can’t. and i am not saying that dropping prices would help, but it sure as hell wouldn’t hurt

  30. Noahsgrandpa
    7:55 pm September 12, 2011 Permalink

    Dave hit it right on the head. I agree with everything he said .Ky. Acts like they are doing us a favor by letting us buy these season tickets . It is getting harder every year!!!

  31. Roll Tide
    10:52 am September 13, 2011 Permalink

    With the exception of a few big plays, not much to cheer about.

  32. Dave Baker
    9:43 am September 14, 2011 Permalink

    Appreciate everyone’s comments! #15 and #19 will be pleased to hear that I have hired an editor.

  33. bill carter
    11:04 am September 14, 2011 Permalink

    why pay high dollar for a cheapass team, hells bells i have never said, i go to the game because i love the stadium. And how can the athletic dept. charge that kind of price for a 6 and 6 team if there lucky. MY cousin has had season tix for 30 years, not this year, who wants to go see a game where the crowd sits on there hands, or they sit there and talk about cooking, the music they play is theamed towards the students who are way out numbered by other fans, i can sit here drink beer i dont have to stand in line to use the restroom and if we are getting our ass handed to us by another SEC team(just wait its gonna happen)i can go to bed, its more fun with the 65 inch tv in the back yard with the fire pit burning,grilling brats(dont poke your brat).IM a uk football fan first basketball second but im also a realist, and as for gottodit, how bout if i take daves mike and SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS,dave is an asset to UK sports and the sec

  34. Tired
    11:44 am September 14, 2011 Permalink

    My first game was this past Saturday. Won’t go back probably. Had fun, but the 30 minute hike from the parking space was a little too much. Will stick to bball where you can park across the street (and it doesn’t cost $20).

  35. Tired
    11:47 am September 14, 2011 Permalink

    My first game was this past Saturday. Had fun, but the 30 minute hike from the parking space was a little too much for me, I’m not that big a fan to go thru all that more than once. Will stick to bball where you can park across the street (and it doesn’t cost $20).