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What is the Kentucky/Indiana series worth?


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The future of the Kentucky/Indiana series has been a hot topic this off-season, with Tom Crean and John Calipari at center stage of the standoff, refusing to blink. On Friday, both coaches made their stances known to the media, with Crean insisting on a home-and-home series, and Cal preaching the benefits of a neutral-site series. With the contract up and neither side willing to compromise, the series seems to be doomed.

It’s easy to see why Crean and Cal are so adamant in their arguments. Kentucky suffered its only loss of the regular season at Assembly Hall, which proved to be one of the more raucous home environments in recent memory. In fact, Indiana was downright stellar at home last season, winning 18 of 19 games in Assembly’s comfy confines. Crean knows the advantage he gets at home, evidenced by his squad’s upset of the number one team in the country last December. So, it’s not surprising that he’s unwilling to give that up.

Which is exactly one of the reasons Cal wants to take the series back to neutral sites, which would level the playing ground and boost ticket revenue. The series switched from home-and-home to neutral sites in 1991, rotating between Louisville and Indianapolis, and returned to a home-and-home series in 2006. I remember going to IU/UK games in Indianapolis and the distinct line between blue and red that divided the RCA Dome in half. While the quality of the games during that time wasn’t great (Kentucky won 12 of the 15 neutral site games), the atmosphere was fantastic. Cal is proposing returning to that model, selling it as mutually beneficial move, with both schools taking home an even share of ticket revenue. Plus, it gives fans that don’t have season tickets an opportunity to watch their teams play. At a neutral site, the game isn’t just a game–it’s an event, and a profitable one at that.

Of course, there’s the other side of Kentucky’s argument, which is equally as logical, but you won’t hear Cal discuss with the media. Kentucky doesn’t want to go back to Bloomington for the same reason Crean is insisting that they must: it’s harder to win there. The atmosphere in Assembly Hall last December was wild, to the point that some Kentucky fans and even players (looking at you, Darius Miller) were in danger. Whether we like it or not, last season’s upset revived this sleeping giant of a series. Kentucky’s barn-burning win over IU in Atlanta gave the Cats the last laugh, but as we’ve seen, Hoosier fans don’t go away quietly, especially when most polls have them as next season’s number one team.

With both teams high in the preseason rankings, the people behind the scenes have the opportunity to restore a rivalry that showed signs of life for the first time since the 80’s last season. To do that, one side must give in. So, what say you, KSR readers? Is the risk of losing in Bloomington worth the reward of beating Indiana in Rupp? Or would you rather see the series moved to Indianapolis and Louisville even though it may lose some its luster?

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99 Comments for What is the Kentucky/Indiana series worth?



  1. lexslamman
    12:02 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I don’t think a game against a second-rate opponent like Indiana merits being held in a major arena. We should play them in Shelbyville, Winchester or Georgetown or some other po-dunk, half-horse hellhole.



  2. kentuckyrules
    12:05 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I think this is a fun series for yearly trash talk. My dad is an IU guy, me a UK guy, so up until this past December, he has been quiet :). However, he did call me in defeat when we took them out in ATL. Just keep the series, we should never fear or write-off an opponent. For those saying IU is not relevant, look at the small schools we play in Nov/Dec anyway…most are Who University.



  3. Yesterdays
    12:08 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I disagree that we wont play IU in Assembly Hall because of it being so hard to win there. I understand that you are saying if KY has the better team each year, a neutral sites favors that. But, IU’s home-court is no more loud than Rupp would be if situations were reversed. Think of when we beat florida at home when they were #1.

    I dont care what they do with the IU series. At the current time, we have more pull than IU and they need us more than we need them. So, let them make the concessions. We can find a big-name opponent at the drop of a hat. And nationally it will be just as big to recruits and our image that it doesnt matter that its not a “rivalry.”



  4. Purple Nurple
    12:08 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Does it really matter what ‘WE’ think. The decision is in the hands of the Universities. IU and UofL have been UK’s biggest rivalry games since I can remember in the 70’s. If there truly is a need to drop a team from the schedule it should be the early season cake walks that are of little or no benefit to the development of the team. If a need exist to eliminate a TOP TIER opponent it should only be North Carolina. Neither school would lose a wink of face by eliminating the game for a period.



  5. kentuckyjoe
    12:08 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Play in Assembly and Rupp. That’s where these games should be.



  6. the ghost of Bill Hicks
    12:09 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I love beating IU, keep the series. And I don’t have a problem with going into their dump and handing them a loss. Our young guys took a lot away from their experience in such a harsh environment. Plus, the last thing I want to hear is a bunch of inbred Hoosiers talking about how we’re scared to come to their house…..let’s go there, kick the door in and run them out of their own gym!



  7. HoptownsBeast
    12:09 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Home & home. Thats a CollegeGameDay game at either site.



  8. Sammydog
    12:12 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I don’t think either coach really enjoys playing each other in such a heated rivalry due to their close friendship. Cal has said as much. Indiana has more to gain by keeping the series so they should be the side to blink if they want to keep the series alive. This game means little to UK’s program even tho the fans may like it. I predict this game is going away for multiple reasons.



  9. stramge brew
    12:13 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Why can’t they do a home and home followed by a neutral site?



  10. Iwant12
    12:13 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Would like nothing better than to continue kicking their a** on their home floor. But like the argument of neutral sites better so that fans can get better seats than at Rupp. Looking forward to more post from MTT. Been a fan from day one!!



  11. serdi
    12:15 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Bob Knight insisted on a neutral floor. We are the #1 program all time. Indiana doesn’t need to be dictating to us where we play. If UK wants to play this game, if it is played on a neutral floor, then that is the way it should be period.



  12. DB11
    12:17 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Neutral or nothing. So sayeth the spider



  13. DerbyDemon
    12:17 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Keep the games in Bloomington and Lexington where they belong.



  14. strange brew
    12:19 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    There’s no reason they can’t do two home and home games followed by a neutral floor and then repeat the process.



  15. SexnNursinHomes
    12:19 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    13- I agree, but we should be allowed to stab any mouthy iu fan that comes into Rupp.



  16. CatsBy90
    12:20 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    UK grad at IU law. The atmosphere toward Kentucky fans in Bloomington is downright hostile, even when bball isn’t in season. Moving to a neutral site helps remove all of the frat boys and other bad fans who take things too far. Then again, if Cats fans are willing to don their armor every other year, I’m more than willing to put on my blue and charge back into Assembly Hall. Just saying that moving the game away from all the BS is another plus in switching to a neutral site.



  17. BlueInMI
    12:21 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I don’t think the series is that great. IU certainly gains more from it than UK, no matter where’s it played. After the incidents on the Bloomington campus last December just offer the neutral sites only or call it quits for a while. Pick up another big name opponent for a home and home and lets leave it at that…at least until the conference realignments come into focus.



  18. Whosier?
    12:23 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    We are the greatest basketball program of all time, no doubt. But not playing us won’t hurt their schedule too much if they replace us with Kansas (which is all the talk from Hoosierland). I mean of course playing UK is better than Kansas, but if they have to lose us bc they refuse to play neutral, Kansas isn’t a bad replacement on their part. Either way, I don’t care. Whatever Cal wants is what I want.



  19. mark
    12:23 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Cal wanting to move to a neutral floor has nothing to do with taking away IU’s home advantage. This is in response to the complaints of all the longtime UK fans who have never been treated worse than they were that day in Bloomington last December. Our fans deserve better than that, and the University won’t put them in harm’s way just to play the Indiana Hoosiers. If they get their act together up there, maybe we’ll reconsider.



  20. Ukcatfan36
    12:24 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Not fraid to play the hooooosiers anywhere.besides the Cats have won several games in Bloominton through the years…I alos like the idea of them having to come to Rupp every other year!!!



  21. denny232
    12:26 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Should be a home-and-home…Cats lose the only non-conf road game they play and all year, and now want to take their ball and go home (or neutral, if you will)? Doesn’t look good. Would rather see a Top-5 matchup in Rupp next season, then get another shot at the Hoosiers in Bloomington 2013-14.



  22. MN CAT
    12:30 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    14.



  23. tltaworl
    12:30 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Easy, Home, Home, Neutral, Neutral and decide again in 4 years.



  24. dukehater
    12:31 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Keep it home and home. The games seem to be much more intense and each team deserves to have the “home court advantage” when its their turn to play at home. With that being said I think we need to give the IU fans that show up at Rupp a taste of their own medicine. While I am not condoning being violent and attempting to start brawls or trample IU fans, its time for UK fans to turn up the intensity and show no other respect to their ugly fan base. We can heckle them non stop and make them feel uncomfortable and unwelcome. This can all be done without using obscene language and maintain a level of class. But the days of being totally civil to their fans has to come to an end and give them the heckling they deserve.



  25. bluefan
    12:31 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I vote keep the series but definitely on a neutral site. Our guys and our fans were in danger last year. Coach should refuse to go bafck there. Not afraid of their talent, afraid of their lack of class.



  26. Some Guy
    12:33 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    19) completely agree and that is what I was thinking. I think it has more to do with the the safety of our fans/players and the unmanageable and almost riotous nature of their fans. They are completely out of control and the stories show immense ignorance. Even the way they would treat small children that were UK fans was criminal. I say cancel the stupid series all together. We dont need them, they need us.



  27. SuperTroy
    12:33 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    “For the first time since the 80’s”?!?! Did this idiot EVER follow UK basketball in the nineties? UK and IU has HUGE games with coaches being ejected and both teams usually ranked if not both in the top 10! Once again, Ms. Tyler Thompson tries to write a boring article we already know everything about, while sneaking in her one-liners that she thinks are cool, and asking what we think at the end. Same shit, different day. This chick is a TERRIBLE writer. She has no original thought at all, and it’s like she’s the kid sister that runs around and says things she thinks that we think are cool, so she can be involved. Go be a Vandy fan while it’s still trendy, Ms. TT.

    These games should be neutral, but if they will only do home and home, let’s give it to them. We should beat them in Rupp, and then they will start to re-think the whole idea again. Then, when we rake in the massive 2013 class, we will roll in Bloomington like we did with John Wall. IU won’t be “back” until they actually show some consstency year in and year out. Losing to Nebraska and losing tons of road games is not “back”. They got lucky in Bloomington and their idiot fans nearly trampled each other. They had their day. We showed them how far they have to come in the NCAA’s, when REAL teams win. Let’s just go back to dominating the series whether it’s neutral or home and home. No matter what it is, UK wins and IU will lose.



  28. Chris E
    12:35 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Play the games in Lexington and Bloomington. I wish they could also work out the football series again.



  29. hogg66
    12:35 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I think it should be at a neutral sight, why do we need to give into Tom Crean, besides thats it sounds to me that Tom feels that this will be the only chance to beat Kentucky.



  30. symphonist41169
    12:36 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Don’t forget the Golden Rule – “He who has the gold makes the rules.” Right now UK “has the gold” and should make the rules. If IPew doesn’t like it then drop the series. I seriously doubt that Cal’s wanting to move it to a neutral site has anything to do with the delusions that Whosiers have convinced themselve of (too “afraid” to play in Bloominton again) but rather the game would become more of an “event” like it used to be in the RCA Dome or the Louisville/Indianapolis rotation, not to mention generate more revenue & allow non-season ticket holders a chance the Cats in person. If Crean & Co. don’t agree to the neutral site format I say to hell with them, drop IPew & pick up someone else/keep Carolina.



  31. UK Rifle >>>> WVU Rifle
    12:41 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Anything that brings the national focus of college basketball back to the KY / IN / OH triangle from that overhyped POS called tobacco road is fine with me!

    Play it in Lucas / YUM like it used to be and you make a weekend out of it with pre christmas shopping and good food.

    The Final Four will be in Lucas every 4 or 5 years, so make Indy the Catlanta of the north, and have the Cats used to playing in that venue.

    Make it half and half like the old days and all the tickets controlled by the schools – No Stub Hub or Ticketmaster and their crazy fees.



  32. NotSatire
    12:42 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Play the game.



  33. enes
    12:45 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    If playing in Bloomington is a problem because of the actions of their fans and the hostile environment then we should stop talking around the issue and tell it like it is. We are the number one program in the country which means we don’t take sh** from some pretender.



  34. Conway Twitty
    12:46 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Conway says it’s all about the Benjamins. Put the games on neutral sites so more $$$ can be made!!



  35. Blake
    12:46 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Graduated from UK undergrad. Graduated from IU Law. LIFE-LONG UK FAN!

    That being said, I do not understand why UK is so opposed to playing in Bloomington every other year. We are the better team, and this debacle makes it appear as if we are afraid to play in Bloomington. Personally, I do not buy the argument that having the game at a neutral site significantly boosts ticket revenue or creates more of an event. We simply need to sack up and save this series, which has now become a furious rivalry.



  36. Ransmith
    12:46 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Alternating between Louisville and Indianapolis is the right thing to do, and if they don’t want that drop and move on and play another national power. It is an event, greater national exposure, more money for both schools and gives those of us without season tickets an opportunity to see a game.

    The potential loss at Assembly Hall is vastly over rated, as IU matures no matter where they play, they will be a tough game. However, the treatment of UK fans there, the safety of players and fans, the insanity of them storming the court are the reasons to avoid going there. If you take those things away, then going there would provide the advantage of toughening up your team from a hostile environment. But there is a big difference between hostile environment and insane which is what Assembly Hall has evolved into. Too much the ghost of Bobby Knight there or something.

    Do you really think IU would be willing to take their team and fans into an insane environment where their safety is at risk? NO, they would not!



  37. Anchorman
    12:48 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    LOUD NOISES!!!!!



  38. Rambo
    12:48 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    There are some things that you just don’t do to a team that young! Bad Tommy! Bad!



  39. The Dude
    12:51 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Nice article, but you forgot one point. Kentucky’s neutral site is vastly inferior to the one that Indiana would be bringing to the table. The Cardinals are still not willing to budge on blocking UK from using the Yum center, so the game in the state of Kentucky would have to be played at Freedom Hall. I don’t blame the Hoosiers one bit for not wanting to play there.

    When you negotiate, you try to meet somewhere in the middle, which both sides seem to be conveniently forgetting. Perhaps both sides would agree to it being annually in Indianapolis (side-stepping the Louisville site issue), or keeping it home-and-home until the City of Louisville finally admits the Cardinal deal causes it to lose money, and forces UofL to accept new terms.



  40. Troy Ain't So Super
    12:51 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    27 You’re the idiot here and your grammar sucks. Since the 80s, the series record is 17-6 in favor of UK. IU only won in 90 and 93, then not again til 99, then 05, 07, and 11. So what if coaches were ejected and teams were ranked…what she is saying is that this series hasn’t been a true rivalry since after the 80s bc IU hasn’t been doing their part in making it a rivalry…till now. Your a douche and I’m pretty sure BBN would much rather you go be a Vandy fan.



  41. #8 CATS!
    12:55 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Neutral or Nothing…



  42. IMO
    12:57 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    39 Freedom may be a dump but so is Assembly Hall so they shouldn’t complain too much. IU should feel more at home at Freedom than Yum!



  43. real uk fan
    1:00 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I see no reason why we should give in to any of iu’s demands. A neutral site would be good and no series at all is just as good for UK. I hope the UK administration does not give in to the foolish iu demands. IU needs UK. UK does not need IU.



  44. Oneword
    1:05 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Cincinnati.



  45. Usernametaken
    1:06 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I don’t see how playing in front of 40,000 people in a tournament atmosphere at a neutral site would make the series lose its luster. Think that wouldn’t look good on national television?



  46. SCCat
    1:10 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    While i love the idea of “selling” this game at neutral sites, i’m a little traditional when it comes to big rivalry games. Give the home fans of both teams the incentive to bring their rival to their home gym – it’s part of the game, and it should be remembered for these important rivalries between big time programs.

    Use neutral floor games to sell us vs. Mich St., or us vs Uconn. The IU and UL and UNC and KU rivalries command home and home games.



  47. REAL BLY
    1:11 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    After how we ( BBN ) were treated…I don’t care if we EVER play IU again!! Neutral or nothing….IU fans are the worst I have ever seen in 39 years of following UK!



  48. Allen
    1:13 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    KSR, please stop covering this story. Talk about baseball or something else please.



  49. kk
    1:16 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I have to put this in context with the potential loss of the UNC series due to conference expansion. I like the Indiana series, but if losing IU could allow us to keep Carolina every year, then lets do it in a heartbeat!



  50. Mark
    1:18 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I love the intensity and excitement of playing on each team’s home court but I also grew up watching the neutral court games between these two and always thought it gave us a little March feeling in December. I’m happy with either one. We are the National Champs so home courts shouldn’t scare us. If we can play at Vandy, Florida, Miss. St., Tennessee, UofL then we should be able to go to Bloomington…just sayin.



  51. Slim
    1:20 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Kentucky-Indiana rivalry got reenergized this past season. Both schools have great coaches and passionate fanbases. Keep the series going but the only way KY comes back to Bloomington is if they beef up security. Both programs look to be as title contenders for the forseeable future. It’s primetime, College Gameday material if it is a home-home series. If it is neutral site, both schools get money each year, and non-season ticket holders benefit. Both scenarios look good. Regardless of where the games are played, the sting of a loss to a rival is still there (as is the thrill of victory). Regardless, KY has the upper hand in the negotiations. Wherever it is played, it will be in front of a national television audience. Go CATS!



  52. Santa Kige
    1:21 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I look at Indiana like BobBY Knight does – forget about them. I voted to drop them when Coach Cal did his poll on his website. They’ll always be our b1tch in my heart though.



  53. BobKYCats
    1:22 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    This series needs to stay home-and-home. The neutral sites were nowhere near as fun as when it’s been home-and-home.



  54. WildcatDaddy6
    1:23 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    #41’s right, Indy and Louisville or nothing. Cal is smart to not renew home and home especially after last year. The environment was hostile beyond belief and there’s no reason to think it’s ever going to change in Bloomington so long as the BIG BLUE comes to town!



  55. hai
    1:24 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    The rivalry is worthless unless UK gets to have an all-playboy cheerleader squad to cheer them on



  56. your mom
    1:25 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    this article is crap. cal is scared to lose? really? get it right next time.



  57. your mom
    1:28 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    rivalry would be better, if they took a couple years off. indiana might learn how to act by then.



  58. Doubting Thomas
    1:32 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I don’t like playing any school in an atmosphere that puts our fans and especially our players in danger. IU successfully kept UK fans from getting tickets to the game there last year. They also were very vulgar and abusive to our players. Add to that the idiots stormed the floor after winning and you have a no win situation for UK. We don’t need IU, IU needs UK. Let them play somebody else. They’re not worth the trouble or the risk!!!



  59. mwgocats
    1:33 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    We barely got out of there alive and we lost, can you imagine what it would have been like if we had won.



  60. c1doc
    1:33 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    play them all in Indy at Lucas Oil!! Much better location than Louisville anyway!!



  61. the Big Dog
    1:37 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    It’s obvious that Indiana can’t control their hooligan fans and there is no reason to play in such a dangerous environment. Indiana is not that important. winning road games is overrated in that you don’t play road games in the tournament.



  62. Wildcat Willie says
    1:47 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    They come to our place this year. Keep it going for at least 2 years.



  63. Bladak
    1:56 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I hate all things Indiana so I could give two shakes of a rat’s pecker if we keep the series or not. I would much rather play some higher class opposition.



  64. Al's IndiCats
    2:17 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I for one would love to see it neutral like their one and only Booby Knight liked it. In Indy we always went to the game as a family and it really had the atmosphere of tournament games. I hate to see the rivalry such as this to go to the way side, but like most of you said, they need us more than we need them.

    Which brings me to another story, when we played Looserville an older woman stopped me in Krogers and told me she hated UK with a passion, (I was wearing my UK hat and coat) of course she was wearing a IU sweatshirt. When I asked why she hated us so much, she went on to tell me how much Cal cheated and she hated cheaters. So I went on my speal how even Crean wouldn’t have passed up the likes of Davis, Walls, Knight, and went on to tell her he didn’t like the one and dones also, but if that how the NCAA wants it that’s the way Cal’s gonna play. I went on for almost 5 minutes explaining Cal strategy and if this is how it’s going to be then Cal will set precedence and other coaches will follow. So….she then said after our little chat she didn’t REALLY hate us that much and wished me good luck with our game with the Cards. She turned around to leave with her groceries when I said excuse me Miss…..She asnwered yes in a real nice way, I told her I couldn’t help but notice that a bird pooped on her sweatshirt, she looked down and saw the IU emblem and looks could’ve killed I wouldn’t be telling you this story.



  65. CatsFan
    2:19 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    You’re all idiots if you prefer the neutral site. As a Kentucky fan, wearing blue in Assembly Hall this year was much more memorable than any of the games I’ve been to in Freedom Hall or the Hoosier Dome. IU is back (at least for now), and this is a rivalry that (when it’s good) merits being played in a true College Basketball atmosphere.

    Do the right thing, and renew the contract Cal.

    Also, the “danger” argument is a joke – we’re talking about Bloomington here, not Starkville (that looked scary).



  66. Biglaw Dawgin'
    2:30 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Any way that the game gets done is a good thing. This is an epic rivalry and has to continue. Plus, it can’t stop once we both get good again.

    If it’s home/away that’s fine. The IU loss was the best tournament preparation our guys had all year. After that, every other venue was a walk in the park. A neutral court is fine too, but a home/away series is always much more fun.



  67. Bradley
    2:32 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Losing in Bloomington is totally irrelevant to the discussion. There fans acting like a pack of feral kids got tickets to a basketball game is relevant. Drop the series if they don’t want to play in neutral gyms. They will be on national tv 1 or 2 times per year. They need this series WAY more than we do. Meet our demands or don’t let the door hit you in the a$$.



  68. ribin
    2:33 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Play at bloomington — UK gets 25% of the tickets (and revenue) [due to security issues], play in Louisville, IU gets 10% of tickets [due to no security issues] — UK makes $$$ – UK fans (without season tickets, get a chance to see them play) and we get a good experience that will pay off in the tournament.



  69. Bradley
    2:35 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    65. I went to the IU vs UK game in the Hoosier Dome and the atmosphere was awesome. One of a kind in fact. 35k people with the blue and red LITERALLY divided by the mid court stripe is an awesome site to see. Maybe the neutral site games you witnessed were the crappy Tubby vs Mike Davis era games, but the Pitino and Knight era series had tremendous atmospheres.



  70. tct
    2:37 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    33. Absolutely the same thing I was thinking. UK has dominated this series in the last 20 years, so to say its because we’re afraid of getting beat in Bloomington is silly. Besides, it would be UK’s turn to host the game in Lexington this year when IU should have their best team in a long time. This is about the way the fans acted in Bloomington last year and I don’t see why Cal doesn’t just say so. Forget getting beat in Bloomington, I think it would have been scarier for our players had they won. The whole court storming fad needs to be put down, or at least delayed until the opposing players get off the court. I can’t tell you how proud it makes me to know that UK fans will never storm the court at a basketball game. I don’t know why the IU aren’t embarrassed as hell about it. By storming the court they were making the statement that IU is not in UK’s league and that they were shocked to win.



  71. Zack
    2:52 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I want to keep the series at the campuses. The neutral court plan really isn’t that neutral either. One in Kentucky, and one in Indiana? How can that be considered neutral? It waters down the fan bases, but neutral it is not. We should be scared to play no one either at home or on the road. If we play well, we will win, if not we lose. That applies at home and on the road. This is too good of a rivalry to let go. First UNC and now Indiana? I love Cal, but this is getting ridiculous, I don’t care if we play Duke, I want to play our out of conference rivals like IU and UNC and he clearly doesn’t. Other than UL, Indiana is our best rivalry, I want this series to continue no matter what we have to do.



  72. Zack
    2:54 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Speaking on this topic, I want him to play WKU in a home and home. We want the game badly, and it would create a lot of buzz in southern Kentucky. Why he doesn’t do that I will never know.



  73. playersfan
    2:57 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Why play where a coach gins up the crowd before the game, ie don’t let any KY fans in the arena, then the fans take it from there and it is dangerous, let Crean find another top team. I bet he won’t find that will come and play in that atmosphere, NC is very selective. Duke won’t play road games. Maybe Louisville should play them.



  74. Doug Newman
    3:02 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I have been a Kentucky fan for about 45 years. I absolutely hate Indiana. My vote is to let the series end. We have the series edge and beat them in the tournament so there is no use giving them what they want. We are Kentucky!! We call the shots.



  75. SeasonTicketHolder
    3:04 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    As a season ticket holder at Rupp, I want to see the “home and home” continue.



  76. catcrazy4sure
    3:09 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    On television, the UK/IU game at Assembly Hall looked dangerous for our fans. The level of hostility was unlike anything I have ever seen in college sports. I wouldn’t go back there under any circumstances.



  77. oboro fan
    3:11 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Why cant we do both??? Play one year at Rupp, 2nd year at Indianapolis, 3rd year at Louisville, 4th year at Bloomington, or some combination ?? Point is, both teams get what they want, and Ky and In. continue a great tradition and rivalry. With all the Attornys that read this, what is wrong with this scenario?



  78. The Back of JoeB's Head
    3:25 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    If they want home and home, I say give them neutral. The way they treated the UK fans at Bloomington, I don’t care if we ever go back to that dump again. If we must find a 3rd home and home, dump them and pick Kansas back up.



  79. Darryl Hill
    3:30 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    It wouldn’t upset me if this series went away entirely. The IU fans don’t deserve to play UK, in my opinion. Their bad behavior and rushing the floor deserves repercussions. So, I say, make them concede to neutral floors or nix it. Period.



  80. bstith
    3:36 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Play the game. I don’t care when or where. I was at the IU game, and yeah it sucked, but I’m not about to be scared off by those fans. I think it should switch between the home and home and “neutral” sites. This is by far my favorite rivalry game, especially now that I live in IN. And don’t give me numbers about how many we won in the last twenty years, IU is back and you don’t know b-ball if you can’t see that. We are both going to be top 5 teams for the forseeable future and it’s no time to stop playing. KEEP THE GAME!!



  81. Gary
    3:40 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    What makes a rivalry, a rivalry? Passion, intensity, competition. For the past decade there has not been much of a rivalry because of the one-sided nature of this contest. But, as others have pointed out already, Kentucky vs. Indiana used to be a big game. It finally turned out that way last season and we should applaud that a game like this is back. To give it up because the Indiana fans over-reacted after many seasons of losing (along with beating a number one team), then that would be sad. Plus, Kentucky should not be scared to play anyone anywhere. Where is the loss for Kentucky in a home and away game? We do the same with UL, although one could debate that a neutral site for either game could work just as well. Kentucky needs rivalry games to compete with the Duke/Unc hype. Don’t give this up.



  82. Charlie Warrior
    3:52 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I’m all for playing this match-up at Indy and Louisville. What other opportunity is there for a non-season-ticket-holder to see the Kats play a “better opponent?” Beats the heck out of travelling to Atlanta to see UK-Duke, or to New York to watch UK-Maryland!



  83. Screw IU
    4:24 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Who ever is saying IU was good in the 90’s is crazy. Knight had a good team with Calbert Chaney and little else. Bobby knight didn’t get fired for disrespecting a student he was fired because he stopped winning enough games to out with his shit. Put it back to neutral sites were it truly about the states
    Iike it used to be. however I would rather drop them altogether and pick up Duke.Kansas,or UCLA



  84. Screw IU
    4:29 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    The rushing the court complaint is crazy When we beat Alabama in football no one complained or #1 LSU. We are UK and it is big when we get beat. So you need to get over yourselves with this.This just goes with being the top program in the country.



  85. IWantJust"K"OnTheHelmets
    5:06 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I want the neutral sites. There’s always talk (from Cal and Fans) about shooting in domes on an elevated floor in the NCAA tournament and Lucas Oil Stadium fits the bill. The Yum center is a basketball palace, despite the Big East Bums who are the primary tenants. Not renewing the series in one form or another would seem cowardly. It would still suck to replace Indiana with McNeese State every other year in Rupp.



  86. buzzard
    5:09 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    just do the opposite of what IU wants….puck ’em, we don’t need those candy striped douchebags.



  87. CrimsonCee
    5:19 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    As an IU fan, our blogs say we will pick up Kansas if this impasse cant be overcome, but thats not what we want. Living in Southern Indiana, 10 minutes from Louisville, Ive always been a minority fan in my own state. For us here, this is THE game. The problem is that, to most IU fans, this just the third or fourth biggest rivalry game. The B10 games with Purdue and Illinois loom much larger to fans basically anywhere north of here. So there isnt a lot of pressure on Crean or the admin staff to give in. I remember the series both ways, when it was home-and-home then neutral and back again and I think the main thing is they play. It was great either way (although one of the RCA Dome games during the Davis-Bracey Wright era was maybe the low point of my entire life. It was a 6 or 8 point game at half until UK went on a 67-2 run or something and won by 40 – I got so drunk i fell down the steps, my friend broke his hand hitting a wall, we drove home and wrecked the car and then banged a fat broad on my moms couch. All cause of IU).
    Anyway, you guys tell your AD you want this to continue and so will we. It needs to, if only because large women need sweet love. Every now and then.



  88. SuperTroy
    5:33 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Aw. 40. You’re trying to write a comeback. That’s cute. Are you Tyler’s little sister then? 🙂



  89. SuperTroy
    5:53 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    87. That…was classic. Well done. We’re trying to get it done. I think Cal understands that IU needs UK more than UK needs IU. Either way though, it will be a major rivalry gone if it doesn’t happen. UK has a couple bigger ones, and IU does too. But, still I think fans of both teams would like to see it happen.



  90. Tomlin Fan
    6:05 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    We weren’t beaten in Bloomington, we were robbed, mugged, and assaulted. To hell with that bunch of IdUits. Neutral site or nothing, that’s their choice. Let’s have a little fairness, and less home court advantage.



  91. Eddie Money
    6:28 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Just play the damn game!

    Fairness would be allowing IU to play a game at home to even out the playing field a bit.



  92. BobbyBlue
    9:16 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Keep UNC and drop IU,before somebody from Ky gets killed by the wannabe,IU fans



  93. stevo
    9:41 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I went to the game in Freedom Hall when Mash was a junior and Calbert Chaney was the stud at IU. The atmosphere was incredible. I’m in favor of that. We don’t need them. Their fans suck, pure plain, and simple. If they won’t go back to neutral sites then to hell with ’em.



  94. bill
    10:30 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    Drop IU,and keep the UNC series. The UNC fans don’t act like idiots.



  95. GoBlue!
    10:38 pm April 30, 2012 Permalink

    I don’t care if they play on an aircraft carrier in Antarctica – just keep the series! I’ve been to the games in Rupp and the games in Indianapolis and all were great. It’s an historic rivalry that’s just getting good again. No need to stop now. (And keep UNC and UofL too, while we’re at it.)



  96. metalarmdad
    1:54 am May 1, 2012 Permalink

    Most fans are talking about the series but lets talk about what happened at Indiana this past year. KY fans did a lot of celebrating when we won the Nat.Championship this year but we did it at our HOME and when you look at some of the people who were arrested, they were from Indiana. So to get that out of the way now let talk about the way the FEW KY fans who were at IU for the game this year and the way our players and fans were treated after the game at IU this year. Our fans were insulted, harassed on the streets in the stores, bars and most every where at the games at IU this year. Very few tickets were available for KY fans. We are KENTUCKY, National Champions, and I know people will have a lot to say because I just said that but we Don’t need Indiana, they NEED to play us, Keep the North Carolina game, better game, program. And yes I have ties to N.C. Plus Indiana is as REDNECK as is gets.



  97. Rick Edwards, Fern Creek
    2:06 am May 1, 2012 Permalink

    Drop IU & play someone w/ class. Better drop UL too.LOL



  98. metalarmdad
    2:14 am May 1, 2012 Permalink

    I said my thoughts above and after reading what a lot of other KY fans said before me it looks like I repeated others. I try not to hate but as for IU it nearly impossible and that is because of one BOOBY Knight. I had High hopes that Crean would turn the IU program into a better program BUT I was wrong and it looks like he has fallen into the same Mold as those before him. It must be in the water in Indiana that takes good people and turn them into total a$$h****. And the reason I say that is because I USED to have some in-laws that were born in KY that moved to Indiana and have become complete Hoosiers. Enough said.



  99. Lou eaton
    9:12 am May 1, 2012 Permalink

    Should remain home and home BUT as usual the money will decide so IMO we will no longer be playing IU since neither will give in on this one……