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Wait, what?

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The NBA’s next CBA appears to be nowhere near being completed, but it will likely have a great impact on college basketball should they make any changes to the NBA Draft early entry rules as expected.  There have been whispers of an abolished age limit and an extension to two years.  Today, a new prospective change popped up.  According to Rutgers head coach Mike Rice and Scout.com’s Evan Daniels, the rumor is now that college basketball players would have to wait three years before entering the NBA Draft.  I’m assuming that means the NBA is considering the baseball rule, which would also allow prospects to enter the draft directly out of high school if they choose not to go to college.

Assuming that does end up being included in the new CBA, you have to wonder how that would affect Kentucky’s recruiting under John Calipari.  The thought of having players working together in the dribble-drive offense for three years is tantalizing, especially if the Cats continue to pull in the elite players in each class.  But if the NBA opens up early entry for high school players, does provide a bit of a speed bump on Calipari’s furious recruiting pace?  Most likely not.  One thing that might be slightly underappreciated in judging Cal’s recruiting classes is the way he’s able to selectively choose guys that can qualify and are dedicated to being on campus – even if it’s only for a year.  It’s not like he’s Rick Pitino or something.  This could be a very good thing.

Article written by Thomas Beisner

32 Comments for Wait, what?



  1. mocha
    11:22 am August 11, 2011 Permalink

    Oh snap.



  2. Chuck
    11:23 am August 11, 2011 Permalink

    I’m not sure. He’s able to pull the top players each year because most of them can come right in and start from day one. Does Brandon Knight come if John Wall is still here? Does Teague come if Knight is still here? Same with Jones-Patterson. I’m not sure you can go get 4 five-star players every year under this scenario, but I still like the idea and think Cal would adjust.



  3. Nelson
    11:28 am August 11, 2011 Permalink

    I think this is a bad idea. No age limit or two years would suffice. Three years will lead to a lot of the players going overseas.



  4. pickle948
    11:35 am August 11, 2011 Permalink

    Make them stay in school 3 years…All the NBA is getting are a bunch of overpayed, uneducated players. Make them atleast get some education, most can’t play pro ball for to many years anyway.



  5. John
    11:36 am August 11, 2011 Permalink

    That would be ok if the NBA and NCAA would get together and make this rule. If you commit to a college you can’t be drafted. I see a bunch of guys picking a college and then deciding to turn pro at the last minute.



  6. knightynight
    11:37 am August 11, 2011 Permalink

    2) we don’t need Brandon Knight if John Wall was still here…your recruiting classes are cut down each year depending on what you need and they become uber important every 2 or 3 years. He’d still dominate this scenario.



  7. knightynight
    11:41 am August 11, 2011 Permalink

    4) *overpaid
    *at least

    lol, not meaning to poke fun, but your post made your errors stand out more 🙂



  8. John
    11:43 am August 11, 2011 Permalink

    With this scenario John Wall is never in college



  9. UKeith26
    11:46 am August 11, 2011 Permalink

    I’m more considered about immediate results. ie: another 2 years of anthony davis.

    recruiting might get hurt… but at the same time we won’t have 1 year windows to win anymore



  10. AP
    11:46 am August 11, 2011 Permalink

    Assuming they will be able to go straight to the NBA, there should be a deadline to decide which they are going to do, NBA or college. Pointless for coaches to spend all that time recruiting someone and they decide to go to the NBA. The best kids won’t get recruited at all cause coaches think they are NBA bound. I think allowing them to go straight to the NBA is a bad move. Would like to see it move up to atleast 2 yrs for uk basketball sake but it means they can go straight to the NBA, nevermind.

    To the one that said it would hurt Cal, I don’t think so. He can recruit 2 5 stars like a guard and a forward one year, along with some fill ins. Then the next year recruit 2 more 5 stars, a center and another guard or forward. How cool would it be to have all 5 star starters with a couple more coming off the bench.



  11. abandonedmineshaftsrule
    11:47 am August 11, 2011 Permalink

    3 years is the best thing, not only for the kids going to school, but it would protect some of the older NBA players a bit more. Give them more time in the League, and give the NBA more time to evaluate.



  12. TheWaitFor8
    11:48 am August 11, 2011 Permalink

    Umm. He would be unstoppable. He would take the best of whatever left and top players would come in. One yr under Cal as a starter still gets them better exposure (endorsements) than 2 somewhere else.



  13. SECOnNotice
    11:53 am August 11, 2011 Permalink

    Likely, this would make us even more dominant. Cal would still be the best recruiter in the country, and would still have the best recruiting classes, only now they would have to stay three years. Anyone that thinks this will hurt him is forgetting what a good developer of talent he is. Yeah, Wall and Cousins might not have ended up in college, but Bledsoe and Knight still would have. People called the 3-point shot the great equalizer, but really the great equalizer is the NBA draft. What this would do is make recruiting even more important than before.



  14. Cliver
    11:54 am August 11, 2011 Permalink

    3 – Who cares? Everyone other school would be at the same disadvantage (if you can call it that) and Cal would just go get the best of those players who stay in the states.



  15. 44 Stitches
    11:56 am August 11, 2011 Permalink

    I don’t really care how they change it because Calipari is still going to out recruit every other coach 99% of the time.



  16. ZZbottom
    11:59 am August 11, 2011 Permalink

    I Don’t Care about the NBA. It is Boring! It isn’t a sport anymore it’s a Business. They change their rules so the game highlights the stars. iliigal D = no Zone……really.

    College is better. If the best wants to move on then that’s fine…UK will get the new best that is left.

    The NBA is distroying their own brand…
    It needs to be no entry until 21..period. Like the NFL.



  17. Seriously
    12:06 pm August 11, 2011 Permalink

    WTF man–the poll results on the right add up to 101% haha



  18. Ghostofbearbryant
    12:17 pm August 11, 2011 Permalink

    This is otherwise known as the ‘death to Cal’ rule



  19. iWantToGrowUpToBeTheDrewFranklin
    12:19 pm August 11, 2011 Permalink

    I say 2 years, no jumping straight to the NBA out of high school. If only this rule could effect the 2011 class..



  20. Blue Genius
    12:21 pm August 11, 2011 Permalink

    Not sure how I feel. Part of me thinks if players can go straight to the NBA then 90% of the players Cal recruits will be gone and we will be left with less talent to pick from. On the other hand, maybe the talent will keep coming ( if they HAVE to go to college) because, right now, they will go where they will get the most playing time BECAUSE they CAN go one year and then leave for the NBA. IF they HAD to stay two or three years they MAY still come to UK under the mindset of “I don’t need maximum playing minutes my first year b/c I have to stay another year (or two) anyway, so might as well go play and practice with the best ( at UK) then be a starter my sophomore and/or junior years… THEN top 10 draft pick. KABOOM!



  21. Big Blue 66
    12:22 pm August 11, 2011 Permalink

    a 3 year wait or go directly out of HS, makes no sense to do it that way. Im not sure that is what they are saying anyways, thats not the NFL rule.



  22. Brad
    12:27 pm August 11, 2011 Permalink

    ‘it’s not like he is Rick Pitino or something’.
    – I agree. Rick hasn’t vacated final fours.

    ‘he’s able to selectively choose guys that can qualify’

    – just ask D. Rose and Eric Bledsoe. They didn’t need any help qualifying or anything…. LOL.



  23. kyeric
    12:32 pm August 11, 2011 Permalink

    This is a classic move in deal-making. You have a show that you want something big, but in the end “settle” for something less. Watch the NBA Players talk the NBA Owners down to a 2-year deal (something the Owners wanted all along).

    Welcome back Davis, Gilchrist and Teague!



  24. UKGoBigBlue
    12:34 pm August 11, 2011 Permalink

    The NBA owners are going to get either 2 or 3 years, nothing more nothing less; there will be no baseball rule.



  25. JMFATZ47
    12:38 pm August 11, 2011 Permalink

    Either way, we will get the best of the best. Even if the top 15 declare for the draft, Cal/UK will pick up at the #16 rated prospect and go from there. He gets 3-4 year guys NBA ready (Harrellson, Liggins, etc) just as he got guys like Wall, Rose, Cousins ready after just a year.



  26. Dr. Dick Fitzenbutts
    12:46 pm August 11, 2011 Permalink

    If you look at all the reports about “what the owners want”, they’re going balls to the wall. They’re even talking about wanting a piece of player endorsement contracts. If I had to bet I’d guess that they’re pushing for no entry out of HS and 3 years in college with the hope that they’ll end up at a guarantee of 2 years. If that ends up being the case UK and Cal are in a great spot as has been discussed quite a bit on this site already.



  27. Iceman
    12:46 pm August 11, 2011 Permalink

    Any rule they make concerning draft age will absolutely affect this year’s freshman. i see a lot of people point out that the last time a limit was part of the cba, it didn’t affect the following draft, but there is a reason for that. When that cba was agreed upon, it was a few days before the draft. the problem is that draft was held under the old cba, because the new cba which contained the limit didn’t take effect until after the current cba expired, which was after the draft. in other words, there is no cba right now, and so if an age limit is agreed upon it will effect the next draft, unless there is a exclusion placed in the new cba.



  28. ChicagoCat
    1:03 pm August 11, 2011 Permalink

    It won’t be surprising if they grandfather in this year’s draft class to the old system (assuming they adopt a two or three year rule) just in fairness to the players, but the owners and/or NBAPA are going to need to WANT to grandfather them in. Remember, no one is going to be negotiating on behalf of high school kids so they really won’t get a say. I also can’t really see the NBAPA coming to their aid, the NFLPA was more than happy to sacrifice rookie pay (and ergo rookie rights/leverage) in their new CBA.



  29. jch
    1:23 pm August 11, 2011 Permalink

    A couple of thoughts:

    1st – The owners are “asking” for 3 years; I’d be willing to bet their actual goal is 2 years. They are entering a very long and, expectedly, heated negotiation; EVERYTHING they do or say from here until the new CBA is signed is a negotiating tactic.

    2nd – How many guys are “really” ready to go straight to the NBA out of High School? A lot of them may “want” to go but very, very few are truly ready. At most you’re only talking about 2-3 guys a year who NBA teams will take a risk on signing out of High School.

    Net effect on Cal’s (or any other coach’s) recruiting; very little. He/they will have 2-3 fewer kids to choose from and they will need adjust to knowing they will have kid’s on campus for at least 2 years so they’ll have to put a bit more emphasis on academics.



  30. WOW
    1:25 pm August 11, 2011 Permalink

    Thats the first time I have ever seen someone spell illegal with 3 i’s haha. Its wild looking.



  31. Trent
    5:07 pm August 11, 2011 Permalink

    I’ve always thought about this. So we have the one and done rule currently and we get the top recruiting class year in and year out and we all know that the players are only going to be here for one year. So, if they went away from the one and done rule that means we no longer get the one and done players, but it does mean we get the best players that are going to college. So the one and done players are no more and that means we just get the best players that are college bound. It’s not like were going to take a hit in the recruiting of players, we just take the best players away from other schools!!



  32. Brand X
    7:09 pm August 11, 2011 Permalink

    Pitino vacates the NCAA tournament in the first round, when he gets there.
    Pitino vacated the entire tournament to have a couple of early NIT exits
    Pitino’s recruitment of D Rose (who was cleared twice by the NCAA) got vacated once the chance to play for Cal came
    Pitino got vacated by Samardo Samuels going to Jamaica to get NBA ready and Ricky didn’t know he had declared for the draft
    Karen S well you know

    Bledsoe’s academics got more clandestine, illegal scrutiny than any one I can think of and was cleared. Why don’t you man up and ask Eric to his face? Wonder how much “investigation” Sosa, T Will or most
    kids could take?