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Three characteristics UK’s next football coach HAS to have

It’s over. Well… maybe it’s not over, but the fat lady is warming up her vocals on Coach Phillips’ career at UK. I don’t want to upset Chester, the passionate UK football fan who called into the show today, even further, but the reality of the situation looks bleak. Yes, Kentucky still has a chance to make a bowl game, and maybe it happens. Right now, though, with the rest of the SEC schedule looming, the odds are stacked against the Cats. At this moment, it’s hard to outline exactly who will be up for the job or would even be a good fit. It’s not hard to determine exactly what characteristics our new coach has to possess to be successful.

Florida, Georgia, and Alabama ties. For the past couple of years, Coach Phillips has made a concerted effort to recruit in these states. The result? A ton of playmakers that are going to help this program for years to come. I don’t know what they are putting in the water in these places, but these guys just play football at a higher level.

QB Development. Usually when a team changes coaches they go to a different specialty than the previous coach had (defense to offense, or vice versa). This should not be the case if Kentucky gets a new coach. The Wildcats have to maximize the talent they have at the quarterback position to be successful, therefore, an offensive coach needs to be hired. QB Maxwell Smith is going to be a star at some point in his career, if he’s not already. As a true sophomore, this kid has shown tremendous ability that makes you wonder what type of numbers he can put up in his career at Kentucky. For two more years, a new coach will have to get as much out of Smith’s development as possible if the Cats are going to compete in the SEC. Right after Smith’s career is over, a new coach will have two guys in Patrick Towles and Jalen Whitlow competing for Smith’s spot. Both these guys have a ton of ability, setting up a great future under center for the blue and white.

4-3 Defense. Even though Kentucky’s defense played better against the Gators, a 3-4 defense just isn’t working for this program. DC Rick Minter did an excellent job in 2011, the first year of the switch, but he had a host of talent that he might not be privileged to have every year. A 4-3 defense is a lot more simple, and something Kentucky had a lot of success with in previous years. It seems like we were send more guys to the NFL in that defense as well.

So what say you? In your opinion, what characteristics does our next coach need to have, BBN?

Article written by Rashawn Franklin

112 Comments for Three characteristics UK’s next football coach HAS to have

  1. JLP
    8:05 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Unless we can lure Urban Meyer or that Saban guy, I say give Joker another year…

  2. Gaddis Bomb
    8:08 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    All of these optimistic football posts, week after week, year after year – same result. Groundhog Day BAY-BAY!


  3. Gaddis Bomb
    8:09 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink


  4. an easy decision
    8:10 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    a motorcycle, a hot blonde mistress, and plenty of past success on the field are the characteristics we need to be looking at. who cares if he has a girlfriend? the man can make us relevant again!

  5. Experienced
    8:10 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    You missed the most important quality our next coach should have— A proven winner on a consistent basis.

  6. MadTex
    8:10 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    The next coach will need blinders and ear plugs for starters…..that and an ability to coach some real football.

  7. stucknbig10
    8:11 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    I’m not sure where you get your three criteria, but those three aren’t even close to being the most important qualities, IMO. I think the most important characteristics associated with a new coach are:

    1) Ability to win with recruits that aren’t necessarily 4-5 star guys (e.g. Bob Petrino). UK will never out-talent its schedule, hence, this is the biggest factor.
    2) Ability to coach up talent and get them to play disciplined precise football. Petrino’s practices are legendary for their speed and precision and attention to detail. This is sorely lacking now.
    3) CHarisma / Excitement: Absent a big name, the new coach should have a big personality. Mumme was a good hire in the sense that he energized the fanbase and played an exciting brand of football. The new guy needs to have some energy and should make every effort to leverage the strengths of UK (why not try and tag-team with Calapari and market UK as the premiere dual sport program in the country?

    I think recruiting ties are important, but I’m not sold on the idea that our recruits have to come from FL / GA / AL. I think Ohio and Pennsylvania could be just as important to UK. We are the northernmost SEC school, why not leverage that? With PSU’s decline, some other schools need to fill in the vaccuum (WVU is one school who has successfully poached recruits from PA).

  8. MHFaulkner
    8:11 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    1. Not Joker Phillips
    2. Spread Offense system (Holgerson style instead of Leach’s wide open)
    3. Not Joker Phillips

  9. dave
    8:14 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    joker is still the coach. he hasn’t actually been fired nor has the AD came out & said he won’t be here next year. why would you post this?
    this post is garbage.

  10. Jared
    8:14 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    This conversation doesn’t even need to be happening right now. Terrible post. Support your coach and quit worrying about who we hire next.

  11. Jared
    8:15 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    9.) completely agree.

  12. Do Doo Brown
    8:17 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Read crawfords article on about Petrino. He’s a jerk, but he wins.

  13. Biggass Hungguy
    8:18 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    One of the top 5 talent producing states is directly north of us and it has only 1 BCS program, thats the ties you need. We are behind 20 other schools for Florida kids, and contrary to popular belief there is not an endless supply of talent in Alabama. Saban typically only signs 25-30% AL kids anymore.

    Cincinnati-Dayton is the area we need to focus on, probably a top 5 talent area after you eliminate the big 3 states of FL, CA, and TX and we inexcusably have zero presence in it. KY-OH-GA is where most of our prospects need to come from.

  14. Whitey man
    8:18 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    He needs to be WHITE!

  15. Dave & Jared
    8:19 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    9 & 11) It’s going to happen guys, cry yourselves to sleep tonight.

    37% decrease in ticket sales and dropping, 2-10 record, inept coaching ability. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this out.

  16. MeThinks
    8:19 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    MeThinks that we need name recognition that is not yet washed up, and the money to hire a proper staff. Otherwise…heck with it!

  17. jim
    8:20 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    WIN! Thats #3!

  18. Coaches Agent
    8:21 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    1) A pulse
    2) Willing to wear short sleeves in 90 to 100 degree weather
    3) One year of coaching experience at a small Class A high school, preferably with at least 8 losses on resume

  19. JBR
    8:23 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    9 and 10…get a life, Joker has destroyed this program and deserves no respect. This post is absolutely pertinent to the conversation.

    The firt paragraph is ridiculous…”Yes, Kentucky still has a chance to make a bowl game, and maybe it happens.” REALLY? C’mon man, you got the guts to do a post like this, man up and write reality…we did not have a chance since Joker was not fired at the end of last season, that is when our chance ended.

    We need a coach that can motivate players and get them to play at or above their potential…one of those guys that can get players to want to run through walls for them. That is why Joker has failed. We have the talent to compete with most teams…if they did what I just said…played their hearts out and overachieved. No, we could not compete for the SEC title or anything, but bowl game…absolutely.

    Joker just cannot coach, period.

  20. tdogg40330
    8:23 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    I’m sorta with #1, if they can’t get a proven coach I’d rather
    stay with Joker. Whats the chances of an unproven coach coming here and
    having success??

  21. Davefromdaga[p
    8:25 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    As for you 8 and 9, I feel ya brothers, but all this post is doing is saying Hello to that Huge, Pink Elephant in the room. This show is over. Joker is no doubt a great guy and I would certainly love for him to be the Cat,,,but he ain’t and the next chapter is about to begin.

  22. UKJB
    8:28 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Hire a name that everyone know to get the fanbase back. When he leaves (or retires) in two or three years, hire Neil Brown.

  23. tdogg40330
    8:29 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    I was backing Joker almost 100% until the decision to play and stick with
    Newton saturday. He gives UK 0% chance to win and Joker has to know it.
    It’s kinda hard to take up for him anymore but I still feel bad for him.

  24. Your mom
    8:32 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Kirby Smart should be our first choice. We need a hungry, young, up and coming coach

  25. tdogg40330
    8:32 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    22) I’m not sure how Brown would do as a head coach, but thats a name we haven’t
    heard and maybe we should. Obviously the guy can flat out coach some offense.

  26. Kirby Smart
    8:38 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    I want a head spot in SEC. I’d only have to face Saban every 4 yrs. I’m it man. Pony up!

  27. Tuberville Tommy
    8:40 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Get me the hell outta Lubbock!

  28. [email protected].com
    8:41 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    From the sounds of the Big Blue Line tonight, Joker is doing better than Calipari. Are they paying these people to call in. Anyway, Mark Story has a good article in LHL that is worth a read. Let the season play out because if Joker gets any kind of mojo going in the 2nd half, he will be back for a 4th year.

  29. reality check
    8:43 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    The coach who takes the uk job will be committing career suicide. It will be their last head coaching job.

  30. ribin
    8:44 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Better be hard of hearing and need ‘reading’ glasses – coaching philosophy of an exciting offense — aggressive and innovative defense.

  31. NL
    8:45 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    This post is DISRESPECTFUL! We are in the middle of the season! Our coach hasn’t been let go! And you post this BS? Come on guys seriously…its one thing to bitch and moan like rashawn the retard has been doing for weeks but its another to totally move on and talk about our next coach as if the team didn’t have more games to play. Regardless of how you feel about Joker, this post is premature and rude to the program (admin, coaches, kids, etc…)

  32. Tim Allen
    8:47 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    I want the former Oregon Coach and Athletic Director Mike Bellotti

  33. crackerhillbilly
    8:50 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Why the bloody hell would any up-and-comer (e.g. Kirby Smart) come here? Name the last UK coach that went on to great college success…..Bear Bryant 60 years ago?

  34. Big Blue 66
    8:52 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    so joker has all these big time playmakers that have us set up for years….hhhaaaa hhhaaa what an absolute joke…joker, see what I did there

  35. Stupid people
    8:53 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Why would anyone want Tommy Tuberville? Just because the guy once coached at Auburn doesn’t make him good. Ronnie Brown, Cadillac Williams and Jason Campbell are the only reason he’s anyone

  36. Big Blue 66
    8:53 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    31. this post shouldnt be premature, Joker should have been fired directly after the WKU game

  37. Stupid people
    8:54 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    We are stepping stone job. We can get people to come here and get there career off the ground before the big boys come calling

  38. BBB
    8:55 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    1. Somebody with a heart beat
    2. A coach that can get his offense to score a touchdown in the 1st quarter
    3. Someone who can beat Big East and Sun Belt teams

  39. UKBlue
    8:56 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    We need a football coach with John Calipari like characteristics. We need a coach with common sense & who will enter games prepared & read to play, unlike what we have now. We need a coach that will do the complete opposite of what Joker is doing.

    If Mitch plans on keeping Joker, he better call Ryan Lemond to sell his house & get the movers lined up because fans will freak out on him.

  40. UKGRAD Scott
    8:56 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    The UK coaching dilemma has been around as long as I have been alive.We always seem to get a middle of the road guy who has become excellent at being mediocre at his previous stops. If the powers that be bring in names like Tubberville,Nutt and Fulmer please just let Joker keep the job. I would like to see Joker get a chance with the facility upgrade that may be in the works but it may be too late for that now.The one thing I know is Joker loves UK and wants to be successful.If a new coach is hired PLEASE don’t follow the UK tradition of hiring a has been or worse a never was.Do something to excite the fans like looking at the following:

    1 oregon OC-would let you run a different offense that is only seen when you play UK which I think is key to being successful.
    2 hire Atlanta Falcon OC-Matt Ryan has become elite in this system (Patrick Towles should smile at this) This is also a pro style offense with someone from the pros -which should help skill position recruiting.
    3 Go totally to the other side and get one of the Ryan boys to shore up the defense-would really have to monitor OC choice in this option.
    4 Norv Turner -when he gets fired this year.Norv has a GREAT offensive mind-would have to monitor the DC choice in this selection.
    5 Finally if you hire that jerk Petrino I don’t want to hear the complaints when in week 10 we are preparing for Vandy and he accepts a job that seems better elsewhere.

    As a side note please go out and support the kids playing football at UK.If you don’t like Joker or the direction of the program e-mail Mitch, but show up and support these kids who have poured their hearts and souls into this team . Thanks and a special shout out to Chester who inspired this response.

  41. Captain Obvious
    8:58 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    You Joker Lovers need to get over it. He’s gone and will be OC at Kentucky State next year. Go Cayts

  42. TyE
    9:00 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    31). C’mon man….joker deserves no respect and neither do you after a comment like that..he ran our program into the ground with plenty of talent to have a 6 or 7 win seasons..he just can’t coach and has no enthusiasm does anyone still stand up for joker..someone please give me a reason

  43. Swamp Nut
    9:02 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    A few years ago Charlie strong and Dan Mullens were the “it” coordinators in college. If Louisville and Miss. St can get them we should be able to draw a similar coach

  44. The joke was on us
    9:03 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    9 and 10 You guys are a prime example of morons. This is a great post. One that should have been made along time ago. Thanks Rashawn for being real and seeing the writing on the wall instead of all these vanilla PC columns. The joke is over. You haven’t seen Barnhart come out and support Joker that alone should tell everybody what’s going on.
    I would love to see Patrino here. For no other reason then to make the Card fans cry. I agree that we have to keep recruiting Ga ,FLA. and Bama. Ohio would be nice, but we must win the Recruiting battle in Louisville . That is where Brooks built the program and Strong is kicking Jokers ass there.
    Still think David Cutcliff will be the man. For everyone saying get a up and coming assistant, seems they are forgetting that was Joker 3 years ago. He was a hot name and we were praised for the hire.

  45. barn
    9:05 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    joker’s still the coach and probably will be next year. has any UK team ever went scoreless in an entire sec season?

  46. Don't Worry
    9:05 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Mike Pratt will give Mitch the name of our next football coach when the time is right. Look for the blue and white smoke coming from Commonwealth when he lets him know.

  47. Wesa
    9:06 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    This amazes me all the talk about Joker being gone. He’s still the coach and has brought in quite a few talents players the past two year. Remember we are in the SEC you bunch of fools, we are the nothern most school and not many reasons for a kid to come here when he can be at Bama, GA, FLA or some other school. Were you the smae people who cried for coach Brookes to be run out of town and then when he started winnig jumped on the band wagon. Either support Joker and this team or get the hell out of dodge. I’m sick of all this crap.

  48. Will to Win
    9:07 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    1. Loves Motorcycles
    2. Loves women half his age
    3. Used to coach little brother

  49. barn
    9:11 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    47–brooks took us to a few turd bowls by padding the pre conference sked and people like you are gaga. whooptie friggin doo, we’re in the sec, if we can’t field a team that can have a winning record in conference every now and then we should move fball to the mac or big e. i know that ain’t never going to happen but just saying

  50. Ron
    9:12 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Time for a different approach. An NFL hall of famer with an itch to get back into football, has never coached (so we can afford him), but can recruit because every highschool football player in America has heard of him. Let him hire “coaches” as assistants so he can spend 90% of his time recruiting.

  51. Billyisjuiced
    9:12 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    I remember people wanted Gillispie for a 3rd year and were pissed that he wasn’t given more time lol The ship is sinking

  52. Chris
    9:20 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    #50. Then willy wonka can bring him oompas and we can all eat chocolate in the stands while watching UK dominate.

  53. The joke was on us
    9:22 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    #40 You my friend are a educated idiot. Go to the game and support the players, but not Joker? E-mail Barnhart? Looks like mom and Dad wasted their money on a little boy still living in a dream world.
    These NFL guy’s you talk of will come to UK? You act like all we have to do is call and they will come. The Ryan’s are NOT going to leave the NFL to come coach in collage especially not UK. Norv Turner is a horrible pro head coach so you think he would be better at collage with the recruiting and building a NCAA team. We need a collage guy who understands how to build a program and has relationships with high school coaches.
    If you want to support the players stay away from the games and changes will be made. Then they will get a compantant coach. That will support the players more then anything.
    Please use some of mommy and daddy’s money on a reality class because life is going to take a huge bite out of your ass.
    P.S. if I want to go to a game I will. We don’t need you to tell me to go its my money I’ll spend it how I want to. Why would I spend my money to watch a program that just isn’t putting a good product on the field? You and Chester can both kiss my a$$.

  54. BigBlue
    9:23 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    It would not be hard to find a coach better than Joker…he is the bottom of the barrel!
    The WKU coach would even be much better than Joker.
    That guy has guts, plays to win, and can recruit.

  55. Greg
    9:24 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    This post is in bad taste! This is a college team , the players are students and the current Coach is a native Kentuckian. I am 50, the football program is what it has always been. The blood thirsty and rude behavior surrounding the program is very unbecoming. The UK football program is an extra curricular activity of the university. It is profitable and not a burden to the university, state or local community. The football program is handcuffed by state government ( funding, facilities, ect…..) THIS IS NOT A PROFFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAM!!! The players are STUDENT athletes. They deserve everyone’s support and respect. The head coach is a native Kentuckian, an UK alumni and UK football letterman! BBN, the press and faculty 4 years ago thought enough of Joker to make him the coach in waiting because EVERYONE DID NOT want to lose him. Unfortunately all the complainers don’t recall the last search for the head football coaching position. There were NO takers!!!!!! Barnhart had to bring Brooks out of retirement! The football position is not like the basketball position. People expecting the same results are the same ignorant, rude and disrespectful losers making these posts and replies

  56. bob
    9:27 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    If I am a coach and read this garbage I would look elsewhere………

  57. Logic
    9:28 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    The most important thing for our next football coach to have is to not have Barnhart as his AD.

  58. tdogg40330
    9:34 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    I do believe some of these comments about supporting the team still. If you like
    Joker or not, fans need to come and cheer on the team. They are mostly 18-19
    year old kids, its not their fault.Get behind these kids Saturday vs USC and
    see if they can maybe pull off the upset.

  59. BigBlue
    9:38 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    55) Joker gets paid millions to coach the football team and he is doing a terrible job.
    I agree, the student athletes deserve more; they deserve a coach that can develop them and lead them.
    Sticking Morgan Newton out there against Florida almost destroyed the kid…he was not prepared to be put in that position.
    The buck stops with the head coach..if he is taking the program backwards he is fired and replaced.

  60. Big Blue Daddy
    9:41 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    18- I laughed so loudly when I read yours bc I agree in every way… I guess Joker is into hot yoga after wearing the pullover when the heat index is 106… Thanks Coaches Agent… I needed that!

  61. Billy Clyde
    9:50 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    This is one of the worst articles I have ever read on this site.

    None of these things are things a coach HAS to have to be our next coach…

    I lost some intelligence after reading this nonsense.

  62. ohhai
    9:50 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    1) alcoholic
    2) locks kids in the toilet
    3) ability to out run cutler

  63. wildcat502
    9:54 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    I agree with 55. I`m 51 years old and the football team will be what it is. It may take Joker 4 years to build it up, but no coach with a reputation wants this job, simply because its Kentucky and the football program is not supported. And will probably never will be. The adminstration has shown this for over 60 years.

  64. The joke is on us
    9:55 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    #59 you beat me to it. I agree these coaches sure make a lot of money for a extra curricular activity and these players get a lot a perks that the common student don’t get. Don’t in any way think these players are “regular” students. They do deserve better and the next coach will try give them the respect they deserve. #55 since you are so quick to point out the head coach is a alumni then maybe he should give a couple million back to the school.
    One poster said it best after the WKU game. I don’t stay up at night thinking about beating LSU and Bama, but I sure sleep knowing UK can beat WKU.
    I will admitt I said we should have hired Joker he earned that.I also thought we should give him this year 2 years just wasn’t enough time. But Joker has failed and people blindly supporting Joker and acting like everything it just roses makes me sick. Barnhart has given Joker plenty of time and support as he should have. Now Joker should repay Barnhart loyalty and announce his resignation at the end of the year.

  65. Feces4brains
    9:56 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Rumor has it that mark stoops has a desire to be a head coach .. He would bring charisma unbelieveable defense lots of recruiting leads and experience in top programs.. Also being a stoops I’m sure there are tons of offensive minded friends who would come help with developing 2 all American QB’s in the
    Next 5 years ..

  66. Ares
    10:01 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Willie Taggart wins with 1 and 2 stars I think he could do great things at UK.

  67. mhornung
    10:02 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink


  68. The joke is on us
    10:05 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    #63 No support . So I guess selling out Commonwealth for a 7 win football team is no support. I guess selling out our allotment of tickets for a average bowl game is no support. Turning the stadium Blue at the Music city bowl means no support. Hell in case you haven’t read we still have some supporting a 2 loss team like their Super Bowl champs no support. I may question their choice in loving this coach but I never would question the support. Hell I think in some cases they support too much. But I’m sorry Sir the right coach could turn UK into a winning competitive program. We may never be Bama but we damn sure can be better then average and the fan support is way above average don’t ever sell the BBN short in that regard

  69. Agrees w/ 14
    10:06 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    A white guy! No diggity, no doubt.

  70. KYUniFan
    10:17 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Did anyone see Jay Gruden yesterday, calling the WR pass on the first play, getting a ton out of Dalton, and you get Joh as a consultant and connection to the NFL? That’s what we need now – proven NFL talent, who can work with a staff, looks like a real channel to the pros. If not, then Kirby Smart, or heck, go pull Holgerson from WVU, Gundy from OSU, or someone in these other conferences.

  71. Finally
    10:20 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Top 10 list…
    1. Bobby Petrino
    2. Mike Leach
    3. Kirby Smart
    4. John Chavis
    5. Lorenzo Ward
    6. Gus Malzahn
    7. Tommy Tuberville
    8. Skip Holtz
    9. Jim Tressel
    10. Mark Helfrich
    My top choice personally would probably be Lorenzo Ward due to his experience playing and coaching at alabama, coaching virginia tech, coaching in the NFL, coaching under Petrino, and the enormous success he has had building South Carolina into a defensive juggernaut that rivals LSU and Alabama!

  72. ukdave
    10:25 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    This is last post of your’s I will ever read. Let’s keep the coach and get new writers on ksr! f I had a fag to throw it would be 15 yds on you for piling on.

  73. wildcat502
    10:25 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    63 – I was talking about the adminstration, not the fans. Read my last line, then say, I`m sorry I didnt read your entire post

  74. 69 need a burning cross implanted in his anis
    10:27 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    They could hire a little green guy with a long neck and beady eyes who flies around in a little spaceship as long as he wins. Most of in the BBN are racist I agree,but not in skin color just in w’s and l’s. 69 and 14 are trolls just tring to stir the pot. I can promise any animosity I have toward Joker is strictly due to wins and losses, and is strictly football related. Just because I think he should be fired doesn’t mean I would have a beer with the gut. Hell he seems like he would be cool as hell to hang out with.

  75. Coaches Agent
    10:29 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    #60 you are welcome !

  76. 69 need a burning cross implanted in his anis
    10:41 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    #63 I read your post. UK is about right in the middle of the SEC in money spent on the program. About right were most of us think they should be in on the field proformance. In case you haven’t noticed our whole country is in bad financial standing. The U of K is no different the UKAA has to pay for all sporting teams and due to title 9 that is pretty specific as to how much can be spent and were to spend it.
    Upgrades have been made to commonwealth and to the Nutter facility. So yes I do think the support is there. WE are not Bama by no means but we do spend more them ole Miss, Miss. State,Vandy, and we damn sure have more then WKU. The resources are there to have a good program. Agian not like Bama, LSU, and Flordia but no one expects Joker to beat these teams. We should be in the middle of the SEC. Then a greater commitment should be made.

  77. bubba
    10:54 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    71) I will gladly take any of the 10 you have listed. All would be considerable upgrades from what we have running the program currently. If i had to choose though, my vote would go to Kirby Smart. Matt, can we get this in a poll on the site? im curious to see who BBN favors with Joker being an option as well for the fans that still support him.

  78. Duke Sucks
    11:00 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    How great is the SEC Bama football, UK basketball, UT women,UK cheerleaders.They all are the top programs of all-time in there respective sports. I don’t follow Baseball but we probably have one of the top teams in that sport too. Why would UK even think of leaving the SEC for any other conference. At best I think we can be middle of the pack in football. To me that is better then being the best in a second tier conference like UL in the Big Least.

  79. UKGrad83
    11:08 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Joker has shown that he is not capable of running an SEC caliber program. Players are not being developed. Game plans appear to be non-existent. Even playing cupcakes early in the year this program has failed to score an offensive first quarter touchdown since 2010. That is staggering. The program has gone into a tail spin. The next coach needs to be able to develop talent because UK won’t be able to recruit the best. He needs to be able to develop unique plans for each game. He needs to be able to attract coordinators and assistants who know what they are doing. After seeing the game time decisions during the Florida game, it’s easy to see why Joker has got to go.

  80. Joe B
    11:10 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Joe B says, I’m not worried about football with all those pretty girls now wanting to sit on my hard bronze statue!

  81. gridiron_cat
    11:10 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Not your best Rashawn, poor taste by KSR leading the charge for a new coach 4 games into the season. On your football knowledge, we’ve really been running a 4-3 or a 5-2 defensive set for most of the year that they are calling a 3-4 so I’m not sure what you are watching out there. Truthfully it looked really good in the first half against FL which is a sign that the freshmen are coming along well. The 3-4 we have been running is 3 DTs and one DE (Wyndham) and really is the 4-3 with more blitz packages and an extra linebacker over the middle, mostly playing zone but occasionally blitzing. 4-3 defense doesn’t work well in the SEC because of it’s inability to disguise packages, we tried for 20 years straight, it is too easy to pick apart. Seriously, it’s tougher to go against a good 3-4 than a good 4-3 because it’s impossible to determine if 3,4,5,or 6 guys are coming after your QB and you can never figure out which guys are zoning or manning out in coverage when you run it correctly. The other problem with the 4-3 is that we have never been able to recruit DTs, we don’t produce very many in Kentucky and most of the good ones stay close to home. We may have trouble getting fast enough linebackers some years in the 3-4 but we have a greater chance to succeed and don’t need to recruit as many DT. FL has a mobile QB and one of the best HB’s in the country and we stopped both in the first half pretty effectively, UK NEVER stops mobile QB’s, it’s been our Achilles for as long as I can remember. Also, the recruiting success in Southern GA, Birmingham, and New Orleans probably won’t translate to a new coach unless he already has ties there. Those are very tough areas to get your foot in the door and better coaches than Joker haven’t been able to. Joker was the first guy to get into those areas for UK ever and it took him nearly a decade to break through into Birmingham and NO. I’m just saying those areas tend to be loyal to people, not programs, that’s the nature of football recruiting in the south, you need to know the high schools that are good and the coach at that school needs to like you. I know you gave up on this team after the western game judging from your posts but I’m not ready to throw in the towel just yet, even if it’s just me and Chester at the game. Joker’s made plenty of mistakes but lets not act like he hasn’t made some major breakthroughs on areas like recruiting that we are just now getting to see in our freshmen and sophomore classes, give credit where credit is due. There’s a lot of good players on this team and a lot of football left to play. We’ll find out in the next 2-3 weeks whether this team has given up on their coach or whether they will rally around him and put all of the pieces together. I’m hoping for the latter. Stay positive Cat fans, there is plenty of time in the off season to bash Joker and talk coaching search if he does in fact go 0-8 in the SEC. BTW, I’ve actually read several people claiming to be UK fans admit they were hoping for that and I think if you are routing for us to fail then you should burn your UK stuff, don some dirty bird gear, head down to that gloomy pizza palace parking lot off I65 and call it a day. Sorry, guess this post really hit a nerve but I’m tired of this crap, save this kind of talk for November or December at least, it certainly won’t help and could in fact hurt us. Go Cats, good luck Joker on the rest of the season, let’s beat SC Saturday.

  82. Big
    11:11 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Its simple folks. Basketball- University pays top dollar for top tier coach. Football- Pays bottom dollar for an average coach. You want to win… then pony up Mitch Barnhart, and pay for a top tier football coach!! Its just a simple matter of: “How important is it to you to have a winning program?”

  83. Based in reality says:..
    11:13 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    @ 70. I know folks think Kentucky is the best place on gods green earth but if people really expect holgerson to leave wvu or gundy to leave Oklahoma state you are setting yourself up for a huge let down. Why would Kirby smart, one of the hottest coordinators in the country,risk blowing his potentially lucrative career on annual cellar dweller uk. The answer…he won’t

  84. Big
    11:15 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    @83 He will if you pony up and pay him! This is America and money is king.

  85. Based in reality says:..
    11:19 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    @ 84. Not necessarily. Think about your own jobs. Would you give up a stable position or future opportunities–say one or two more years–for a job now that you weren’t sure you had the resources (not just facilities but recruiting base) to be successful. I sure wouldn’t. 50+ years of shit and nations longest losing streaks are hard to look over.

  86. Big
    11:20 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    @85- I would if you paid me a pile of money.

  87. Based in reality says...
    11:30 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    @ 86…what do you do for a living just curious? I work in Finance for one of the nation’s largest banks. I have career goals, title aspirations just like any football coach does…and they all don’t revolve around money. For some people its just not enough, they want prestige, power, records, whatever it might be. Sometimes in making ones career taking a job for money can be a disaster. I working with a woman who used to a be a CFO of a division of Bank of America. She says now that while it was great money, there were known problems in the division, she didn’t have to have the resources to succeed and thus it ended up a failure and for the time being she is blacklisted for a lot of jobs that she might be hired for. Maybe shes full of it…but what if shes not… Sometimes taking a risk in your career at the wrong place and wrong time can be a disaster.

  88. Booger
    11:30 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    I think Phil Fulmer!!!! But-vandy coach is 1-3 and has that program hopping!!!

  89. Rixter
    11:35 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    “proven winner on a consistent basis”

    Don’t most of those guys already have jobs??

  90. merus
    11:37 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Rex Ryan

  91. merus
    11:38 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    Blue Horseshoe loves Rex Ryan

  92. Rixter
    11:40 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    “if Joker gets any kind of mojo going in the 2nd half, he will be back for a 4th year”

    If I grow a second set of testicles, I guess I can take first base with 4 balls.

  93. Big
    11:44 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    @87- You will never catch a fish unless you cast a line. There are top tier coaches out there to be had. Maybe not”Kirby Smart” but there are top notch coaches out there if your willing to pay. Simply not a priority at UK. As a season ticket holder this is my opinion. And since your giving life advise I fined that most people sell themsevles short by not setting high enough goals. Why not have high goals for a football coach? Is it impossible? It can be done.

  94. Duke sucks
    11:50 pm September 24, 2012 Permalink

    I guess Pryor,Jarmon robetson,and, the other big DL Brooks had were just horrible. Yea I see just how much more about football 81 knows then the rest of us. Cobble and Rumpf just were 4star guys who haven’t been developed so I see your point. The 5 line backers you talk about really plays closer to a run stoping safety then your classic linebacker I don’t think guy was no were big enough to play outside linebacker. Well he’ll #81 you have convinced me. Our D is great and so is this 2- 10 team we should extend Joker and give Minter a raise. Hell knowi see why we fired our assistants . Hell I even see why joker ran Moss offf with out even opening up the job for compition you know because Newton was so great. Even though the kid never got a chance to show what he could due when healthy. Your right we should give Joker more time he sure gave moss plenty of time to show what he could do. Joker needs more time after he said he didn’t have any plays for Cobb inside the 10 . You know Cobb the only play maker we had

  95. Dave
    12:26 am September 25, 2012 Permalink

    I want someone who will build the defense into a powerhouse. That is what Steve Spurrier has done at South Carolina, that’s what Brian Kelly did at Notre Dame, and that’s how you win in the SEC. No, we aren’t getting a guy like that, but we could get a guy like Willie Taggert, or some up and comer. There are guys out there, we just have to find the right one.

  96. Read carefully 93
    12:59 am September 25, 2012 Permalink

    #93 Of course set high goals for a football coach. My entire point is to be reasonable in understanding what you are getting. UK is going to have to “buy low” because if I’m Kirby Smart I’m not staining my career by coming to UK where for reasons beyond my control I can’t be successful.

  97. rupp's grunt
    1:56 am September 25, 2012 Permalink

    @71–rotflmfao- why not put Vince Lombardi or Chuck Noll on your list? You’d have just as much luck getting them as anyone on your list of crack pipe dreams.

    My suggestion is get some lower tier arena league coach, there might be one fool enough to take this dead end job to nowhereville

    On an unrelated note: Is Rashawn the new BTI? I say yes.

  98. Wildcat8
    2:19 am September 25, 2012 Permalink

    3-4 defense never worked under Mike Archer. Why did we think it would work with Minter? And besides its not just the format. We hardly ever blitz or give pressure to a QB so they have all day to throw on us. I’ve never been a big fan of 3-4 defense. It’s an advantage for the offense line too much.

  99. Catlogic15
    2:36 am September 25, 2012 Permalink

    #47. I keep reading that we have so much young talent but we are still ranked near or last in the SEC in recruiting the last few years. Florida is playing 14 freshmen regularly, many on defense, in Muschamps second year after Meyer left the cupboard bare. And wasn’t Jokers now senior class ranked #37 or #42 or something, and we just talk about our “young” talent? All we get is excuses, no results. On and on and on.

    7:37 am September 25, 2012 Permalink

    The man for the job is a Leach protege, a former OC of the Year and current Texas A&M OC Kliff Kingsbury.

  101. Wtf?
    8:39 am September 25, 2012 Permalink

    All these people saying joker can turn it around know absolutely nothing bout the game! It doesn’t matter if u gave joker bama’s team he still wouldn’t make a bcs bowl!! I would love to see the man succeed but it ain’t happening! The situational play calling is the worst I’ve ever seen from a staff! I k ow he likes to throw these short west coast style passes but it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that if it is 4th & 3, you better throw the ball at least 3 freaking yards!!! We never throw the ball to the marker! It’s always well short! Our gameplan isn’t to win, it’s to play a way to keep from getting waxed and he can’t even pull that off! Perfect example of joker still not being able to win with talent was his first season. Hartline was a top qb in the league that yr by numbers. We had Cobb, Matthews, and Locke at the skill positions! Joker took that team to a 6-7 record and got embarrassed by Pitt in the bowl game! That team shoulda been 8-4 at the very least, really 9-3 should’ve happened! He also went 2-6 in the league that yr! We beat sc, took the undefeated champs to the wire but got completely out coached against the bottom feeders that yr(tenn, miss, miss st)!! I’m sure he is a great guy and is a pretty descent coordinater but a head coach he is not even close to being competent!!

  102. paducahfan
    8:51 am September 25, 2012 Permalink

    The most valuable skill for any UK football coach is preparing a good resume for his next job search.

  103. Jack
    9:25 am September 25, 2012 Permalink

    Not sure exactly what this post is. Of the three criteria that Drew determines, the current staff clearly fills the bill with the first two. As for the third: I respectively submit that it is flat wrong. The reason you see so much 3-4 in college football nowadays is that it’s a lot easier to find hybrid LB/ defensive end types than good down linemen. It always has been but the concept hadn’t been thought of. Rick Minter, by the way, would go to a 4-3 in a minute if he had the personnel to play it. Novel approach: support the team, players and coaches, and knock off the know-it-all nonsense.

  104. El Guapo
    9:55 am September 25, 2012 Permalink

    Why is it okay to rejoice when Gillispie got fired after only two years, but so many of you support a coach who is personally setting UK football back to the Curry era? An. This is really more than Joker’s third season, even, since he recruited all those players beforehand as the HCIW. Why would anyone accept that UK football will never be anything? If anyone told you UK basketball was done forever because we made a bad hire, would you believe that? No. Obviously not. So why do so many of you care so much about basketball, but not about football? A better question is why do so many people still attend these games? Vote with your wallets, people, and show Mitch you expect him to at least give the appearance of trying to build a program. There’s no reason UK cannot be at least as good as the Brooks era consistently. Mitch is a businessman: he ponied up the cash for Cal because he knew the people demanded a winner. Right now, he can get away with hiring the cheapest help possible for football because he knows up until this year 70000 idiots would still buy tickets to come drink cheap beer in the parking lot and watch a game that’s usually over by halftime. If we all vote with our wallets, we send a message that we expect you to treat the football team with respect an SEC program deserves, not as your cash cow to pump up basketball.

  105. reason
    10:03 am September 25, 2012 Permalink

    While this discussion is a little bit premature as well as probably inappropriate at this point(and I do support Joker and hope that he can somehow manage to turn this situation around) I still find it highly unlikely. Maybe a differnt title would’ve been more appropriate…a what if or a hypothetical in it perhaps. Still with that said I don’t think we need Petrino. Or his baggage.

    My thoughts are that if UK does in fact hire a new coach then they probably should look to the NFL to hire someone suitable. Seems as though they’re just on a different level with respects to playing and coaching.

    It’s been said here already that UK doesn’t have the name or the facilities in football to draw the names other schools can…still money talks. And with that plus a committment from the University to improve facilities I think there would be plenty of interested coaches.

  106. Shinny
    10:09 am September 25, 2012 Permalink

    It’s real simple=REACH 4 LEACH=

  107. Joker Blows
    12:22 pm September 25, 2012 Permalink

    This should be Obama’s last season and Jokers!

    My picks

    Romney over Obama

    and Petrino over Joker

    Then we should see a turn around over both programs in about 1-2 years.

  108. Stevie Wonder
    12:28 pm September 25, 2012 Permalink

    Even I can see Bobby Petrino should be the next coach.

  109. Hellen Keller
    12:31 pm September 25, 2012 Permalink

    Me too!

  110. Ronnie Milsap
    12:34 pm September 25, 2012 Permalink

    I’m with those two. Just limit him to 4 wheelers, his wife and football.

  111. The joke was on us
    1:37 pm September 25, 2012 Permalink

    There is two ways to handle your next coaching candidate. 1) You can go the coach in waiting route like we did with Joker and FSU with Jimbe Fisher or 2) you can help them get a lessor job and let them get a little on the job training. I think we have found out that the HCIW deal puts to much pressure on everyone. In Bowden and Brooks last years it seemed as they were being pushed out.
    When C.M. Newton decided Tubby would follow Ricky 2stacks he helped him get hired at. Tulsa and Georgia. That let him get his feet wet being “Thee Guy” so when he did come to UK he was prepared . I wasn’t much of a Tubby fan, but he was ready for the job when he got here. I think Joker should have had more success had he coached at say a school like EKU for 3or 4 years. Then Joker would have known recruiting is the life blood of a program, but you have to have people who can coach up the players when you get them. Joker fired Brooks guy who could coach up the talent they had, and replaced them with people who were recruiters but were not the best coaches. That has been Jokers down fall.

  112. Bedside Manner
    9:23 pm September 25, 2012 Permalink

    It disgusts me having to read this stuff from so-called fans. Anyone who would even remotely think of hiring Bobby Petrino is certainly not thinking of whats in Kentuckys best interest for the long run. How about that cloud over his head he would bring? He is a sorry excuse for a human being with a gift for coaching. We can certainly do much better. I am a fan and will ALWAYS support our teams with Coaches with Class.