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The Rupp Arena Question

Are we that attached to you?

Yesterday, Matt talked about the extended process that is being undertaken in regards to the new basketball arena debate and today, Eamonn Brennan of ESPN weighed in as well. He went through all the typical talking points: the chicken bucket, economic times, Barnhart and Gray looking in Indianapolis and Columbus, new arena district vs. updates to Rupp, but he also threw in an intriguing question at the end that I hadn’t considered to this point. From the article:

Stadium debates can be fascinating for what they say about our economic times and the importance of sports in the public consciousness. But they’re especially interesting because of the emotions they inspire in the fan bases affected. Will Kentucky fans really be OK with leaving Rupp Arena? Or are the ties just too deep?

I never considered that as an issue. If we can start selling out and making new memories in state of the art facility, I can get past the fact that we’d be out of Rupp. What do you think? Are your emotional ties to Rupp Arena so great that you wouldn’t want new arena to be constructed? Would that even be one of your reasons against the construction of a new facility?

Article written by Matthew Hays

126 Comments for The Rupp Arena Question



  1. Assassin Number 2
    12:04 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    lets get out and do it big



  2. Cat89
    12:05 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Emotional ties to Memorial too. Why did we leave that facility???



  3. Patriot
    12:07 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Sometimes you just have to let the old dog die, it was a hell of a dog, but…



  4. nick
    12:08 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    DON’T EVER LEAVE RUPP…JUST UPDATE IT…



  5. So long
    12:08 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Rupp Arena was constructed during the worst era of stadium construction in our nation’s history. It spanned from Riverfront Stadium all the way to the horrible New Comiskey Park in Chicago. It ended symbolically when Camden Yards was built. We’ll remember it fondly sometimes, but mostly we’ll be pumped to get a new stadium, so long as it is the BEST FAN EXPERIENCE stadium out there. Think closeness to the court and sight lines, not tofu burgers and luxury boxes. For all that is bad about Rupp, it did pack a bunch of people in and it “could” get very loud in there.



  6. Captain Obvious
    12:09 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Why do we NEED a new arena? They have a great practice facility and new dorms which is where they spend more of their time. Rupp arena is fine, I think building a new one is a bad move financially at the present time



  7. Jonah Hex
    12:11 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Rupp- where most of our major games did not take place nor significant victories happen at.



  8. R. Smith
    12:13 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I’d hate to build it just because we have to be better than Louisville.

    Rupp works, Our coach is undefeated there, we sell out every game, we lead the nation in attendance, we have strong recruiting.

    Rupp isn’t a detriment to the program.

    I can’t find an argument that logically states why UK should build a new arena.

    It all goes back to Little brother having something shiny and new.



  9. Enes
    12:14 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Stay in Rupp. A larger arena will not offer better views of the floor, will not be as loud and lack the tradition that Rupp offers.



  10. philly cat
    12:14 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    more emotional ties to Memorial despite being 31yo.



  11. kentuckyfan
    12:17 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    The same questions about fan acceptance were asked about leaving Memorial Colliseum when Rupp Arena was built. It took all of about one game with 23000 in attendance to get past Memorial. Rupp Arena is large, but it has never been a great basketball arena. The fans will gladly move to a new facility and new traditions will be built and the winning ways continue. People who want to update Rupp are simply out of touch with reality. Renovating means you end up with an old, worn out infrastructure, with nothing more than a new coat of paint. Buildings, like cars and people, wear out over time. At some point the decent thing to do is just let them die.



  12. Neil
    12:18 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I don’t think there is anything wrong with Rupp either. However if they want to build a new areana, then that is fine with me.



  13. MtnCat
    12:18 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    So the alternative is staying in Rupp forever? Just like Duke, we’d still be in a renovated Alumni Gymnasiun following this line of thinking. Time is wasting, get on with it. The best if yet to come…Go Cats!



  14. NBA league pass
    12:19 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    A new arena will be
    a) even more attractive to recruits
    b) a better place for the fans to watch a game
    c) make more money (luxury boxes)
    d) still be better than Yum

    build it!



  15. rlg
    12:23 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    i just don’t want the new facility to be named for some company that sponsored it…like the Doritos Arena or Coke Coliseum. It seems that most of the new facilities are selling the name to the highest bidder



  16. Blue Virus
    12:25 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I would personally vote for a new arena. But if not financially feasible, you have to, at a minimum, re-structure the lower level seating to make the atmosphere better (get the blue hairs the hell outta dodge), add a Cowboys Stadium quality HD video board and sound package in place of that monstrosity hanging over head, remove the cheap stick on bricks that lead to the player locker rooms, and a couple coats of new paint.



  17. C-Bone
    12:26 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I love Rupp and have some great memories there, but let’s be honest, it’s an ugly building. Shots of the exterior coming back from commercials look more like the lead-in on the 5 o’clock news about a warehouse shutting down than a premier basketball program. The building needs to reflect the team playing inside. You can’t create building tradition seen at Duke and Kansas, so just admit that it’s not there and put something new in place with design that can last and reflects more of what is seen on campus (except Classroom Building, what the hell is that??)

    Oh yeah, and move the old people higher. Need more people who yell up front.



  18. R. Smith
    12:28 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    if we ever stop leading the nation in attendance, if we ever stop winning 90% of our games in Rupp, if we saw that our recruiting was hurting because of Rupp, or if we could point to Rupp in some form hurting our program,

    I’d be all for it.

    But you can’t point to Duke and say that will be UK if we stay in Rupp.

    Rupp is 30 years old and is still one of the highest profile venues in college basketball.

    It just doesn’t make financial sense to spend crazy amounts of money just to keep up with a commuter school down the road when what we have is not only working but is still recognized as one of the best venues in college basketball.



  19. anthonyeppsdrivingschool
    12:33 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    why do we need to build another arena? Will it help recruiting when Calipari retires from Kentucky?



  20. Brentton Akers
    12:37 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I’m all for it myself. I would like to see it stay away from corporate sponsor unless maker’s mark could construct a deal with UK and have the whole top of the building look like it was dipped in a blue wax!It would be away to finally move the students in front where they should be too. Even if it’s just the first five rows up all around the arena. Then file in the blue hairs who have the money.



  21. peoplewhowork
    12:37 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I don’t think the arguement of “it’s not hurting our program so don’t fix it.” is a valid point. By that logic, we will only build a new arena when Rupp is hurting our program and that is not the position we should take as the ‘BEST’ program in basketball. If there is a significant advantage to a new arena then let’s talk but, if it is as others have pointed out just to top UL then forget it.



  22. Pitino's Creepy Turtleneck
    12:38 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    People didn’t want to ever leave Memorial Coliseum, but new memories and fan atmosphere (for better or worse) were made in Rupp. The same will happen at a new arena. Too much money is being sacrificed to not move forward with building a state-of-the-art facility. Financing will be the tricky part as Lexington Mayor Gray insists taxes will not pay for the arena. A good, but somewhat dated article about a new Lexington arena can be read here: http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/24808 .

    And if you want to find out how big of a weasely snake Jim Host is, read Betty Boles Ellison’s book “Kentucky’s Domain of Power, Greed and Corruption” http://www.amazon.com/Kentuckys-Domain-Power-Greed-Corruption/dp/0595159915/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1314203196&sr=1-3. After reading this, I knew that the Louisville arena would be a fruitful money tree for a selected few in the committee cartel with Host filling his basket first. Oh, and the book basically says Cliff Hagan was a d-bag, but we already knew that.



  23. tbd4567
    12:39 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I can’t see how this helps. The arena is now full and will continue to be full for basketball. No problem with complete ticket sales. Never forget we would spend about 50 million dollars maybe to increase attendance by ?2000-8,000 more people? No one has discussed an increase in seating capacity that was significant. Yum center is actually smaller than Rupp in capacity. How does that margin of attendance make it worth while spending the money. Is the increased money from corporate boxes worth the money spent? Seems like the corporations are the beneficiaries of what would surely be increased ticket prices. Can our recruiting be any better than it is? Would a new arena have a significant effect on recruiting? Is the comfort we would gain from better-more kiosks for food and drink be of consequence? I think a refurbished arena could be just as good and much less costly. Ribbon monitors, new seats with backs, more sales kiosks, adding bars and alcohol availability in the halls, improving camera capacity, rewiring and modernization of communications, moving the upper deck out closer to the court with additional luxury seating (absent corporate box rooms). Any way you cut it, we are still the 3rd best venue (by size) in the country in the second poorest state in the nation.

    The real question is how it would enhance convention/event revenue isn’t it? Shouldn’t the business community be thinking about paying for this if it is their pocket being filled. Is the increased margin worth the cost?



  24. BigBlueBrock
    12:41 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I am SO tired of the same narrow-minded arguments by the more ignorant section of the Kentucky fanbase.

    NO, I do not have any emotional ties to Rupp. It is ugly. It is outdated. The upper arena is all BENCH seating and it SUCKS. The concessions areas are AWFUL.

    We are not keeping up with “that commuter school.” We are keeping up with modern sports facilities and revenue generation.

    Rupp Arena HAS NO TRADITION. The team that plays in it has tradition, but Rupp is NOT Phog Allen or Cameron Indoor. If the school had ever been interested in retaining a “tradition college atmosphere” we’d have never left Memorial.

    Rupp Arena HAS NO ATMOSPHERE worth preserving. It is only loud SOME of the time and the majority of the time could pass for a morgue.

    We NEED a new arena because we need modern revenue generation for basketball. That means SUITES. That means more comfortable upper and lower arena seating. That means a better concourse for concessions. It means forcing 10, 20, 30+ year season ticket holders buy a seat license. And yes, that means SELLING naming rights for the arena. Louisville is generating HOARDS of cash thanks to its 70+ luxury suites in the Grease Pit.

    To wrap it up: Rupp Arena is old, ugly and outdated. Renovating it to add luxury suites would A) not add enough suites, B) remove 3-4k seats, and C) cost too much to simply add another 10 years of life.

    But all this “arguing” is moot. Lexington will build a new arena downtown. Why? Because that’s what UK wants. You can count on a new arena by 2016/2017 just as sure as you can count on the Sun coming up tomorrow.



  25. LoganBleedsBlue
    12:41 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    BUILD NEW!!!!! We will make the same great memories at a new arena. We aren’t talking about changimg the soul of UK basketball which is the fans. Were talking about a NEW BUILDING. Lets get it done.



  26. Poco Chang
    12:43 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Would Kate Upton make you forget about Farah Fawcett?



  27. TroublesomeCreek
    12:46 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Stay in Rupp and update. The mentality of the new-arena crowd is, every thirty or so years lets build a new arena, this ones old, somebody else’s is better, their arena has carpet, their arena has food court and lady with a chef hat. Keep the tradition going in Rupp. There are buildings in Europe still being used everyday that are over 1000 years old.



  28. JoshfromCincy
    12:47 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Rupp has been renovated about as far as it can go. There’s really nothing that could be done to make it a nice venue. At this point a renovation would be as useful as putting lipstick on a pig. The UK crowd is what gives Rupp its atmosphere; the Arena offers nothing. That same crowd would flock to a new arena and be just as lively. History and tradition are why I hope that Alumni Hall and Memorial Coliseum never get torn down. Rupp was built in 1977-78 with all of the bland, faceless lack of charm and identity that comes with stadia of that era. I equate Rupp arena to 3 Rivers Stadium.

    Let’s build a new arena. One with real seats instead of benches with seat markers placed 12″ from each other. One with hallways wide enough to walk in. One with luxury boxes to house the corporate guests and blue-hairs, leaving court-side rows to the students. As long as Rupp remains, then the season ticket holder swill remain in their current spot. Let’s wipe the slate clean.



  29. JoshfromCincy
    12:47 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Rupp has been renovated about as far as it can go. There’s really nothing that could be done to make it a nice venue. At this point a renovation would be as useful as putting lipstick on a pig. The UK crowd is what gives Rupp its atmosphere; the Arena offers nothing. That same crowd would flock to a new arena and be just as lively. History and tradition are why I hope that Alumni Hall and Memorial Coliseum never get torn down. Rupp was built in 1977-78 with all of the bland, faceless lack of charm and identity that comes with stadia of that era. I equate Rupp arena to 3 Rivers Stadium.

    Let’s build a new arena. One with real seats instead of benches with seat markers placed 12″ from each other. One with hallways wide enough to walk in. One with luxury boxes to house the corporate guests and blue-hairs, leaving court-side rows to the students. As long as Rupp remains, then the season ticket holder still remain in their current spot. Let’s wipe the slate clean.



  30. R. Smith
    12:53 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    someone needs to explain to me how spending $400 million on a new arena is going to result in revenue generation.

    As I understand it, we left memorial because it couldn’t seat enough fans. Look around Rupp when we play a team like Dayton or Clarion – there isn’t a capacity issue.

    I’m not saying Rupp doesn’t have issues and I have no emotional ties to it. I have pragmatic ties to how my university should spend its money.

    If a new arena could be built without taxpayer funding and without UK committing funds for the next 30 years to cover a moneypit, then build it – call it Coal Industry Gives America Electricity Arena and go for it

    But don’t demand to have a 200 foot video screen and a mall walk featuring deep fried cheeseburgers and a mascot petting zoo just because others guys have it without understanding the economic impact.



  31. Amanda
    12:58 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    My desire to watch my Cats play in person is bigger than the desire to experience a Cats game at Rupp. I’m from Muncie, IN and I’m torn between both due to that fact. Experiencing a Rupp game is on the top of my bucket list but with Rupp being so small I want a bigger Arena so that I can actually see my Cats play.



  32. NashBlue
    12:59 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    As long as we don’t name a new arena something silly. It needs a name of historical significance. (and not something like Yum!)



  33. TroublesomeCreek
    1:01 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I’m stunned with all the Rupp haters. The majority here talk as if UK plays basketball in a barn. Our rival gets a fancy new house and all of a sudden the fanbase is screaming how awful our gym is. It’s why I hate people, because they’re the stupidest folks I know.



  34. Not Matthew Hays
    1:03 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    #26 “…an intriguing question at the end that I hadn’t considered to this point.”



  35. JP7
    1:05 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Did Yankee fans complain about giving up old Yankee Stadium for the new one? No, they just moved the monuments and the ghosts across the street into a sparkling new facility that gives them an even better experience. Kentucky basketball is what the people come to see. Making new memories and starting a new tradition in a new building will come easily just as it di when they moved from Memorial to Rupp.



  36. BigBlueBrock
    1:06 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    30 – A new arena in Lexington WILL NOT cost $400 million. That you think it would is a shining display of your abject ignorance. Allow me to educate you:

    Louisville had to buy the land that the Chicken Hutt is built on. It also had to build a $65 million substation down the street as there was one on the site the arena was to be built on. They also had to tear down all the buildings that were on that block. The cost of actually building the arena itself was only $240 million.

    Lexington OWNS the land a new arena will sit on, which is a parking lot across the street from Rupp. So nothing will have to be bought, torn down, or rebuilt elsewhere.

    A new arena in Lexington will range from $220-280 million, most likely.



  37. cjcat
    1:06 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Reference #31: If you have never saw a game in Rupp; Walk thru the Hyatt lobby about an hour before game time. There a plenty of people selling tickets. Just stop the guy holloring “Anybody got extra’s”. He will lead you to the promise land.



  38. Dr. Dick Fitzenbutts
    1:07 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I’m pretty sure if the Yankees can move out of old Yankee Stadium and into the new one UK can move into a new arena.



  39. BigBlueBrock
    1:09 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    32 – A new arena will be named by the highest bidder. Its unfortunate, but that’s how it is.

    33 – Rupp was crap before Kentucky Fried Cardinal Arena was built, sorry to burst your bubble. Rupp Arena is ugly, it is dark and dank, it is sorely outdated, and it needs to go. Simple as that.



  40. Nutwrap
    1:10 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I say we build an Arena that looks like the Republic Senate from Star Wars. And the court can Float around so everybody can see it. Go big or go to a galaxy far away.



  41. expatkyfan
    1:10 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Agree with #32. Build a new one and name it Rupp Arena. Why not? Don’t name it Lexmark arena or whatever.



  42. jp15
    1:11 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I don’t understand why you would want to leave Rupp? It is a nicer venue than Phog Allen or Cameron. You don’t hear talk about Kansas or Duke building a new arena.

    The coolest thing about Rupp as a venue is the attached shopping center and hotels. You can’t replicate that in a new arena. I have taken several non-UK fans to Rupp and they think that aspect makes it the coolest place they have ever been to watch a college basketball game. BTW, these folks have been to nearly all of the top college basketball arenas.

    I don’t like the bleachers that are in the upper deck, but I have to think you could turn those into actual seats without losing too much of the capacity.

    I hope Rupp is around a long time.



  43. rete
    1:11 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    only 220-280 million, eh … time to check between the couch cushions to get this rolling



  44. Enes
    1:11 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Some of you people need to get real. Do you really think part of a new arena plan would be to move the old people out of the front row seats and into the rafters. It will never happen. You need to accept the fact that the old people and their old money are part of what will build a new arena. You sitting in the top row in a $20.00 seat, where the floor looks like a postage stamp will not generate enough revenue to build a new arena.



  45. snoozing old folks
    1:14 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    build the new arena , just keep shuffling us over to the current Rupp, we won’t even notice that there’s nothing happening



  46. ukcatzfan
    1:14 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Just name the new arena RUPP no need to have corporate name on it (bring cawood court alone also)



  47. R. Smith
    1:14 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I had read that the new arena would also bundle a new baseball facility and upgrades to Commonwealth for a total expense of $400 million.

    If that has changed and the price is significantly lower then all the better if its going to happen anyways.



  48. BigBlueBrock
    1:17 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    42 – Because Rupp is old and crappy. It is in fact NOT nicer than Phog Allen or Cameron Indoor. It’s ugly, inside and out. It’s atmosphere is crap. And it doesn’t get NEARLY as loud as often as either of the aforementioned. You simply don’t get it, like most of the other people that can’t figure out why a new arena needs to be built sooner than later.

    44 – The plan will be (secretly) to move the old people (read: old money) either to luxury suites or out of the arena altogether in favor of NEW money. Either way, all the season ticket holders in lower arena that have had their season tickets for decades have never paid a seat license for their tickets (since that has only been around the last 8 years or so). When you build a new arena, you’ll force all of them to either A) buy a HEFTY seat license donation (this is in addition to the yearly K-Fund requirement, btw) or B) give up their seats for someone else. Either way, there will probably be fewer old people in the lower sections of a new arena than there are in Rupp currently. If by nothing else then by attrition since they won’t want to fork over the cash for a $50,000 seat license.



  49. Holden McGroin
    1:18 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I went to four games last year. (2 hour drive each way). Every game was advertised as supposedly “a sellout”, but it was far, (and i mean far) from being full. The top section (where i was) had literally hundreds of seats empty. Two sections around me were completely empty for one game. Scalper tickets were available outside of Rupp right before gametime for all three games (for much less than i paid online). So i guess i’m a little skeptical when it comes to a “need” for spending the money for a new arena. Ticket prices are already high enough and will likely be more this year. I dunno, i go back and forth. I’d like to see a new arena for the future, but i’m not sure this is the time.



  50. BigBlueBrock
    1:18 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    47 – That’s the old IMG plan. That is no longer happening for a variety of reasons.



  51. Holden McGroin
    1:18 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I went to four games last year. (2 hour drive each way). Every game was advertised as supposedly “a sellout”, but it was far, (and i mean far) from being full. The top section (where i was) had literally hundreds of seats empty. Two sections around me were completely empty for one game. Scalper tickets were available outside of Rupp right before gametime for all four games (for much less than i paid online). So i guess i’m a little skeptical when it comes to a “need” for spending the money for a new arena. Ticket prices are already high enough and will likely be more this year. I dunno, i go back and forth. I’d like to see a new arena for the future, but i’m not sure this is the time.



  52. R. Smith
    1:19 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    because young people will pay $50K?



  53. Let's Get Real
    1:19 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    As much as I think we NEED a new arena, look at Kansas, UNC, dUKe, and IU, the other blue-blood programs of college basketball. They stiill do not have a shiney new toy in which to play basketball games. If anything else, Commenwealth should be replaced before Rupp.



  54. UK Tradition
    1:24 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    The tradition is in the program not the arena. If the Yankees can leave Yankee Stadium for a newer, bigger, better stadium, then we can leave Rupp. Renovating Rupp would just be stupid. That’s like giving a facelift to a 60 year old woman. It would significantly reduce the number of seats which I don’t think anyone wants. The only debate should be whether they build a new arena now or 10 years from now. Either way I’m all for it.



  55. Rickey Martin
    1:25 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I still want One stadium for both basketball and football. It could be one of the great wonders in college sports.



  56. MainStreetCat
    1:28 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    A new arena is a must. You have to grow and evolve to survive.



  57. El Dude
    1:31 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    #14 – Do recruits really care about arenas? If so, how does Duke recruit?



  58. El Dude
    1:32 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    #15 – I’d love for the new arena to be the Lexmark Center if they pay $20 million for the construction.



  59. Blueburg
    1:33 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    One thing for me is the name. The whole Yum! Center thing still makes me chuckle inside. Rupp Arena was and is an awesome place to experience UK basketball and everyone automatically thinks “UK” when they hear that name. Not to mention the fear and dread our opponents experience just thinkin about playin at Rupp. I just hope they don’t go overboard and make it to where tickets are so high, blue-collar Kentucky fans can’t afford to attend. At the games, it seems too many rich elite types are too busy showin up late, texting and being preoccupied, to really get into the game, the way real UK fans (who can only afford to go once or twice a yr) are known too. It all just needs to be thought out really well. Hopefully it takes a few yrs and we can hang a couple more National Championship banners in Rupp before this all goes down.



  60. Ron
    1:37 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    “Build it and they will come.” The original cost for Rupp has been paid off for many years, even the various renovations. Memorial Colusium was completed in the early 50’s and then in 1974-75 Rupp opened, that was a life of about twenty-five years. It is now 2011-12 and it will be at least 2014-15 before a new arena could be opened. That’s forty years or nearly half a century. Memorial Colusium held anbout 12,000 fans, while Rupp holds nearly 24,000 fans, almost twice as many. Let’s end the paralysis by analysis and move forward, its past time.



  61. TSlone08
    1:38 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    All I care about is the student seating. We need better seats and more of them. It’s not just for us, it’s for the players too. The students are the ones that create the atmosphere.



  62. UKGoBigBlue
    1:39 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    WE are so out of Rupp, we might as well have already left the building. People just focus on UK & Rupp, and fail to look at the other events that happen at Rupp. Concerts, basketball tournaments, convention, or whatever will & are now skipping Rupp & playing at the Yum Center or Convention Center in Louisville; this is a huge financial loss to the City of Lexington. Some of this is about UK vs UL, but it’s really about the fight over the tax revenue generated or lost by your city arena. Lexington HAS to build a new arena or they will get left behind, actually Rupp is already behind. This new arena will seat somewhere in the neighborhood between 25k – 30k.



  63. Traditionalist22
    1:48 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    tradition is for sale. all the big wigs are whores to the almighty dollar. go ahead and build some new latest and greatest facility where all the luxury boxes will be filled with people who don’t know anything about uk basketball. go ahead and sell out, its what america is about. have a corporate sponsor name it, and lose the Rupp tradition. Adolph Rupp made uk basketball the best, just name it to the highest bidder. i’ll never understand why we have to do something just for guys in suits have hd tv and a cushy seat with a waiter. TERRIBLE. I’m a UK grad, spent 4 yrs in Rupp making it loud, and the best atmosphere in the nation. Get all the new bells and whistles and have more old rich people in a quiet NBA style arena. Terrible.



  64. YesBUILD
    1:50 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    24 is right…Build it…nice and right.



  65. tdr76
    1:51 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    We are the greatest college basketball program in the nation. Our team and fans deserve the greatest arena in the country…built it now, and when you do built it be sure the students are on the floor- unlike Rupp.



  66. theoledog
    1:56 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    what i like about Rupp doesn’t have a thing to do about basketball (the game)
    1) access is easy to parking
    2) can’t drink in arena but can find plenty places right outside the door

    If they can take care of the above then I am shovel ready……….



  67. nkycat
    1:58 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Allen Fieldhouse, Cameron Indoor, Rupp Arena, Assembly Hall. Blue blooded great places to with history and tradition. Let’s kill it all for cushioned seats, and new videos boards. WHOA! GIVE ME A BREAK!! All the old players and coaches that have made it great I don’t get how we worry about little brother’s shiny new toy, so we gotta get one. Cal is undefeated in Rupp. Nothing better than packed Rupp vs. UT, UL, UNC. Why change it? New is not always better.



  68. UK_Teresa
    1:58 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Honestly, I would hate to see Rupp Arena be replaced. They played there my whole life. It’s hard to imagine otherwise. I guess I’m one of the few that have emotional ties so strong that I would oppose it. You can’t buy tradition and tradition isn’t just about being shiny and new. I respect the ones who have different opinions. It’s just not how I see it.



  69. Ben
    1:59 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    It is all about money! UK looks at what UL is charging for seats and boxes at Yum and they are jealous! In order to charge more, you have to offer more. This new arena will not eliminate the blue hairs in the good seats, it will increase them because they are the ones who will be able to afford them! Season ticket holders now will be forced to pay more or give them up. This will only help to price the average fan out of the chance to attend the games. It will most likely happen, but one day the average fan will long for the old days in Rupp. Student tickets will have to increase and the availability will decrease. I have many friends that used to have tickets in Freedom Hall, that no longer go to the games in the Yum Center. At least the games are on TV.



  70. Sammydog
    2:00 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I am sure the coal industry would pay for it but would require it be a shrine to their industry. We would have to become the Kentucky Coal Cats…if we aren’t already. I can see the unique design now. It could look like a big shiny lump of coal on the outside.



  71. jpb5367
    2:02 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I say we keep Rupp. The new arena would turn into a corporate venue with major corporations buying up the tickets. The people that think we would have a lower level student section are not being realistic. Look at the YUM center last year and how many Kentucky fans had great seats at the Louisville game. The reason being is that the corporate world gave those tickets to clients that were Kentucky fans. (My family was the recipient of those). There would be no 23,000 seats, because to make the upper level more comfortable, seats would have to be sacrificed. We play maybe 18 games a year there and we use it for 30 years at a costs of 280 million or so? That equates to over $500,000 a game and a quarter of those games are against NWSE State. You ask any SEC player (We don’t play a lot of name opponents at home), what’s the arena they want to play and they all say Rupp. Also, the luxury boxes are not the cash cows that people think they are. I just don’t want Kentucky basketball to turn into a corporate country club and take away the one thing that makes Kentucky basketball special, the fans. If there was a new arena (and I think there will be), I love the way the new Cowboys stadium has an area that accommodates a large SRO area. I think 40,000 or 50,000 would show up to be around the area and watch it on huge big screen TV’s.



  72. WKYDUDE
    2:03 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    After being in the Cum! center last week for Pros/Dominicans, all I can say it “I want a new arena”. Goodbye Rupp…thanks for stopping by.



  73. jp15
    2:04 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    48-I have been to Phog Allen and Cameron. They both are old and dingy looking and smelling. Basically, every seat is a bleacher. The atmosphere is no better than Rupp. In fact, if the cameras at Duke would ever show the other side of the court you would see a bunch of older people that rarely get out of their seat. Phog is nicer than Cameron, but not by much. A game at Rupp gets started about 2 hours before tipoff because of the great atmosphere in the hotel lobbies, restaurants and bars that are connected to the arena. That adds to the special atmosphere that is Rupp Arena.



  74. Major
    2:16 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Wait a minute, I just assumed that anything they built would BECOME Rupp Arena, replacing the old version of Rupp.



  75. Adolph
    2:42 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    When the church tried to brainwash me, the preacher said the congregation was the church, not the building. It’s just a building. The upper deck blows, the concesions blow. Facts, undeniable unless you’ve never been.

    Build a palace because we can afford it. Build a palace because it is our church, the state’s church, our Coliseum, for the Roman Empire of College Basketball.



  76. Bosky
    2:43 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Who says that a new arena can’t also be called Rupp Arena?…..Theres a few very storied sports franchises out there that have had multiple stadiums with the same name….(Busch Stadium in St. Louis and Yankee Stadium in New York stand out to me)I think if a new arena is built, we do a name transfer to the new arena and old Rupp becomes the Lexington Civic Center……….



  77. Season Ticket Holder
    2:53 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I hope someone realizes we season ticket holders are the ones who pay for over 500 student-athletes at UK to have scholarships, dorms, coaches, and yes, even the facilities we play in.

    I yell, scream, cuss and generally annoy the people around me even during exhibition games. I’m 29 and have lots of UK connections, and feel I have every right to sit in MY seat and enjoy myself.

    I definitely see the problem with the people not being loud (most of the time). But I can’t afford to spend any more than what I already am to get a fricking box seat or some crap.

    And for the record, the entire crowd, even the blue-hairs, do on occasion stand up and make it loud as crap in there. If that helps you to know.



  78. Hootie
    2:58 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I am all for a new arena if two conditions are met: 1) It should be the same seating capacity as Rupp or greater (Kentucky basketabll should be more accessible to the fans, not less) 2) Naming rights should not be sold to the highest corporate bidder. The greatest tradition in college basketball should not cheapen itself by playing in the “Kentucky Coal Arena” or the “Papa John’s Center”. It’s demeaning and beneath the program and the city.

    Side note: All upper arenas are NOT created equal. I have been to the very top of Rupp Arena and it is far, far better than the top of the YUM!?!?! Center. We walked up to the top of the upper deck in YUM!?!?! and it is pitiful. The chairbacks make no difference as far as comfort goes. You have even less leg room than in Rupp and you feel as if you are falling face-first into the court from 300 feet up. Keep your chairbacks if it means I am still capable of walking after a game is over.



  79. BigBlueBrock
    3:04 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Some of you just don’t get it and will never get it. I could type until my fingers bled and some of you still wouldn’t understand why UK (and the city of Lexington, make no mistake) needs a new arena. You can’t fathom that Rupp Arena is NOT the pinnacle of basketball venues by any measure. People that honestly believe Rupp Arena has some vast, deep-rooted tradition tied to Kentucky basketball are deluding themselves and are being just plain stubborn.

    Thankfully, it’s not up to the Joe’s and Schmoe’s of the city and state to decide whether or not a new arena will be built.



  80. KevinKat78
    3:35 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Why build a new Arena! Rupp is always number 1. Every seat is a good seat.
    Is this a desire to have BOX seats? How much bigger would this arena be? How much would this cost? How would it be paid for? Would it really be worth it?
    I see no need to separate the rich from the poor. There are never any paupers in RUPP Arena anyway. Why wasn’t the DUM center made larger in seating than Rupp? Does this mean the new arena would have less seats? If a New arena can’t have 50,000 good seats, I say no way. Then seats would need to affordable. I don’t believe so. Keep Rupp! Improve Rupp!



  81. Eli
    3:48 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I feel no connection to Rupp Arena. It doesn’t have the intimacy of Memorial, nor has it ever been intimidating or spectacular enough to warrant any strong feelings.

    It’s just a building, basically. Why people feel like they need to box up everything they’ve ever used and put it on display, I don’t know. Rupp is run down, inefficient and honestly, an eyesore.



  82. BigBlueBrock
    3:50 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Why build a new Arena! – Because Rupp is outdated and the university needs luxury suite revenue, as well as the revenue from new seat buy-ins.

    Is this a desire to have BOX seats? – Yes, if you mean luxury suites.

    How much bigger would this arena be? – Probably 23-25,000 seating capacity.

    How much would this cost? – Probably right around $250 million.

    How would it be paid for? – Likely a mixture of state bonds and private contributions.

    Would it really be worth it? – Revenue would increase dramatically, which means more money for athletics as a whole and the university. So, an emphatic YES.

    If a New arena can’t have 50,000 good seats, I say no way. Then seats would need to affordable. I don’t believe so. <<< Populist drivel. Get with the times, dude. You want to see the best in the land compete? Then expect to pay the piper. If that means Joe Blue Collar has to give up his season tickets… oh well. There’s 1,000 people willing to pay the price he wasn’t.

    Keep Rupp! Improve Rupp! <<< There is no financially feasible way to improve Rupp. If you put in luxury suites and put chairs as opposed to benches in upper sections, you’d lose 5,000 or more seats. Which is why renovating Rupp IS NOT AN OPTION. And it never really has been, the politicians just want you half-wits to believe it is so you don’t go jumping down their necks when they decide to build a new arena next year.



  83. bung
    3:55 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I bet a new Arena would seat fewer people. Keep Rupp. I say we build a new White House, it is over 30 years old.



  84. BigBlue1976
    3:57 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    This is not about UL. Has everybody forgotten that Pitino himself planted the seed for thought of a new arena while he was here. Rupp was renovated instead a couple times since then. UL just happened to come along and get one built before us. We need to finally get it done. I don’t hate Rupp, but it is outdated. Build the new one right, and I’m in favor.



  85. jim ross
    4:06 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I think 69 put it well. It’s all about more money for the higher ups in the program. Personally, I think they make enough. Espeically when they don’t have a contract in place with Gillispie, but ruin their chances of walking away from him by consistently telling the press a contract is in place. In effect, that served as a contract or UK could have told Gillispie “bye bye.” Nice move Lee and Mitch.

    Okay, Rupp Arena needs an upgrade. Do that at a fraction of the cost. An arena gets history by staying alive, we all know that. But my real question to all those that want a new arena so badly. Are you having that horrible a time in Rupp Arena? The most on eperson could spend there as a fan is 60-80 hrs per year… Most fans spend much less than that and I have a sneaking suspicion some of you that “need” a new arena so badly probably only go to a few games a year. Is that worth the debt for our Commonwealth and University that is already starpped for cash. Don’t fall for Mitch’s “state of the art” and “gold standard” arguments. Trust me he works on commission for all he gets in the UK coffers via the arena. Maybe he should spend more wisely rather than think of new ways to soak our pockets. You think the 5k per seat for the first 4 rows was bad. Wait to see what happens when we get a 30 year loan for 250 mill at 5%. I work in finance, it won’t be pretty.



  86. BigBlue1976
    4:06 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    83. I also think Lexington and UK are smart enough to have it seat more than Rupp. ALL the talk has been 25-30,000.



  87. BigBlueBrock
    4:13 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    85 – I lost count of the non-sequiturs and red herrings in your post. You said almost nothing relevant, so congratulations on typing so much yet saying so little.



  88. arlie
    4:18 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Rupp has a good rep. Stay there. Recruits are impressed. Wall says there is nothing like it in the NBA. It is a knee jerk reaction to Yum. They want to be us. Is Mitch still applying for other jobs?



  89. UKAT
    4:24 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I mean I don’t really know the money issues that would be involved. I mean if a new arena helps the team/university then I say go for it. Yet on the aspect of our new arena putting us ahead of UL and the Chicken Box, who cares? Rupp Arena could be in shambles and would still dominate the Yum Center and any other arena for that matter. Rupp is what it is because of what UK has done in it. That’s priceless.



  90. baker
    4:24 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    if the guys get a new arena then it will attract new recruits for the mens bball program and also give the ladies one of the best arenas in womens basketball by moving them up to rupp. we could always play one or two games a year in rupp with they guys if we wanted to



  91. P.L. Wallingford, III
    4:27 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    79. Slightly edited: Thankfully, it’s not up to the Joe’s and Schmoe’s of the city and state to decide whether or not a new arena will be built.
    —–
    79, you’re the man! Most of these same loons also think the money for the project will be burned or launched into space. They don’t understand that it goes to construction jobs, engineere, architects, etc. No wonder the economy is in the shambles it’s in, they don’t understand capitalism!



  92. BigBlueBrock
    4:28 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Once we’ve moved to a new arena, Rupp won’t remain in its current form. Most likely it will be gutted and turned into a performing/cultural arts venue that seats like 7-10,000.



  93. PharmSchoolFan1989
    4:29 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    As a student, if you tell me that it will not raise tuition for students, then I’m all for it. We have a fine arena as it is, but until it doesn’t dip into education funds, then leave it Rupp Arena.



  94. BigBlueBrock
    4:32 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    91 – VERY good point! A new arena will put hundreds of people to work for several years.



  95. Scotty P
    4:34 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    No one is saying how renovating would mean we play in Louisville for two years. Hell no.

    Why can’t we do a football/basketball complex like Syracuse? Jones dismissed it on the show saying they had no atmosphere since Syracuse’s is mostly empty, but UK could surely fill up most of it. That would be a huge homecourt advantage.



  96. BigBlueBrock
    4:34 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    93 – Athletics hasn’t taken money from education funds for YEARS (in fact, the exact opposite is the case: UK Athletics gives millions of dollars a year to the university for scholarships). Why would they start now?



  97. uklaw95
    4:53 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I wonder how many people who want to keep Rupp have actually been in Rupp. It’s not that great, especially upper arena.

    It also seems that many people don’t realize that it will likely be in the current Rupp parking lot.

    I personally think they should build a huge dome over Commonwealth and SHATTER the attendance records!



  98. repairthisthing
    4:56 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    The unfortunate reality is we’re probably not in a position to afford a new arena. The incremental revenue that would be generated can’t justify the cost. Plus, UK is going to try and suck up the incremental revenue anyway. The UL arena was in the neighborhood of $300M.

    This would be a tough bond issuance to service I would think, without significant contributions from the state.



  99. wky4uk
    5:04 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Rupp never was never will be anything to compare with Memorial. Rupp is just a big bucket with a roof over it. It’s ugly and doesn’t compare to other facilities. We are a state university not the city of Lexington University. Let’s represent the state and build something that will make the whole state proud. Joe B. Hall said, “he hoped the project “would be better than everyone else’s. Not in expense, but in design, in excitement. I’m sure that’s what the people are looking for. Let’s make it unique to Kentucky.” I totally agree with his statement. I think most Kentuckians also agree with his statements.

    When Wildcat Lodge was built it was not the most expensive but it was unique to the world. We probably need to seek adive from a very wish man and someone who represents Kentucky with every fiber.

    I’ve never heard anyone talk of any emotional effect that Rupp might have.



  100. deer boss
    5:09 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    35…nail; head.

    59…”fear and dread our opponents experience”….it’s about the team, not the venue. See Gardner Webb and VMI and the horrible Georgia team from same year.



  101. Bulldawg
    5:12 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I got chills when I entered Rupp Arena and got to walk on the court for the sweet 16 bb tourney and the Wildcats weren’t even in the buildig. To say Rupp has no tradition is blasphemy! However, building a new arena does not destroy the Rupp experience. I have attended Midnight Madness in Memorial when the Cats won the title in 98. Who is to say that UK would never play there again even if it is just one game a season or a glorified scrimmage? UK needs more of a home court advantage in Bball. I’m not saying that they don’t have one now, I’m saying it could be better. Having students and people that will actually cheer during the games ( and not get mad if you are standing up in front of them) would create a better fan experience and be more beneficial to the team. IMO the only way to make this happen is to build another arena because most of the people in those seats now do not understand the concept of sharing. It does not matter to them that they have got to experience the rush of UK BB first hand in great seats hundreds of times and most fans will be LUCKY to experience it once. All they care about is themselves. They don’t even care that they are hurting the program by not letting someone else have a turn for a while that is fired up about the experience. Those people have sat in those seats for so long it has just become another game for them. I think this selfishness should end and more fans should get to experince Kentucky Bball first hand without their nose bleeding. If those seat hogs want to sit down and not cheer during games and carry on unrelated conversations while the game is being played let them do it at HOME! Get mad if you want but to me it’s like this. Let’s say I want to take my kid swimming at a public pool. They say “we are filled up because the people swimming now have been here everyday since before your kid was born.” How is that fair? To me, it isn’t a public pool anymore…Rupp has become a dwelling place for the rich and old and they will not let anyone else have a chance.



  102. BCat75
    5:27 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Why leave a traditioned home that gives us all goosebumps when we enter when the South Indiana State Red Birds built us a brand new facility less than two hours away. Renovate Rupp? maybe, but don’t sell out tradition to one-upthe dirty birds. BBN is better than that.



  103. steve
    5:29 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Bye Bye Rupp arena. You served a purpose but I will not mis you for one second!



  104. deer boss
    5:33 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    102…funeral parlors give me goosebumps….wait, its about the same decible level too. Coincidence????



  105. UK Rifle >> WVU Rifle
    5:55 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Point #1 – for matt and the law folks to report – SHOW ME THE $$$$

    When Rupp opened in 1970’s the cost of construction was between 30 – 35 million. When the renovation was done a few years ago, very little of the original debt had been repaid. Think of living in your home for 30 years on an interest only loan. You want to add on so you go back and roll the original 30 million into a new loan for 50 million. And again pay only interest and pay nothing in the principle. This is the same thing that happened in the housing market in the past decade, and look where it got us. The first thing when discussing a new arena is what will it cost to retire the current debt to ZERO, and not roll that debt forward again.



  106. Carter County Man
    6:08 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Rupp Arena should be kept. The beautiful thing is famous people mingling with “common” folk. I mean when I go to a game I’m looking for what famous people are in attendance. If a new place is built they will be tucked away in luxury boxes. Plus, there is nothing like shopping around the Lexington Center before the game.



  107. Carter County Man
    6:09 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    What about the “Blue hairs”? If a new arena is built they might to sit with rowdy fans.



  108. bung
    6:17 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    What do Jimmy Dan, Ashley Judd, Joe B Hall, and Mike Pratt think?



  109. UK Rifle >> WVU Rifle
    6:34 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Point #3 – size matters

    When Alumni was built it seated ~ 3,000 fans, so when it was replaced by Memorial seating ~ 12,000 it was a net gain of ~9,000 seats (and a whopping 300% gain in available seating) – During this time you had 3 media outlets [CBS/NBC/ABC] and you had people who went to see the game

    When Memorial was built it seated ~ 12,000 fans, so when it was replaced by Rupp seating ~ 24,000 it was a net gain of ~12,000 seats (and a whopping 100% gain in available seating) – During this time you had 3 media outlets [CBS/NBC/ABC] and you had people who went to see the game

    Under this logic, the next arena should add no fewer than 12,000 seats, and probably be closer to 24,000 seats (for a total of 48,000 seats). On the flip side you have the first generation in american history who will not be as wealthy as their parents. They stay home and watch UK on TV, and the ones who do go are texting, twittering, and playing video games while the game is actually going on. Mr Bill and Caywood are dead and buried, and for the life of me I can not see their replacement on the horizon.

    When the Pitiner Arena was under discussion was going on when Little Ricky was here that arena would have seated only 18,000 to allow for the high roller seating. Would you be so quick to replace Rupp, if the new arena seated 6,000 fewer fans? What if you were one of the fans who no longer got in the door, how would you feel then?



  110. Tuesday Night at the Louisville Gardens
    6:59 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    quit wasting time and build a new arena



  111. catfan
    9:34 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    I love Rupp but let’s face it. It’s outdated compared to the YUM Center. Let’s build one bigger and better!



  112. RealTalk
    11:11 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Chicken bucket NOM NOM NOM



  113. Ned Chase
    11:38 pm August 24, 2011 Permalink

    Me and my brother say build it.



  114. Ky76
    6:55 am August 25, 2011 Permalink

    We moved out of Memorial….’nuff said.

    Bring on the house that Cal built!!!!



  115. Monstermash
    8:34 am August 25, 2011 Permalink

    Why can’t we just build a new arena and move the name Rupp Arena to it? What law says that it can’t be named Rupp Arena also? The name Rupp Arena has the tradition, let the name stay with the team. If they keep the old arena, rename it the Lexington Arena or something along that lines.



  116. devok
    8:44 am August 25, 2011 Permalink

    Why not build a bigger and better Carrier Dome? Go big or go home!



  117. Lou eaton
    9:04 am August 25, 2011 Permalink

    From a practical standpoint, we need a new facility like Custer needed more indians. Today’s ecomomy is simply not the best of times even if we DID need new digs. The entire idea is boneheaded in a time when many are losing their homes, jobs and much more. RUPP Arena is the Yankee Stadium of BB and should always be the home of our Cats.



  118. BigBlueBrock
    9:18 am August 25, 2011 Permalink

    117 – Building a new arena would create hundreds of jobs. In a time when you have already pointed out that jobs are hard to come by, I think it’s better for the economy than you think.



  119. max
    9:41 am August 25, 2011 Permalink

    ?



  120. jack austin
    9:48 am August 25, 2011 Permalink

    i’m ok with a new arena, if we could name it Rupp Arena ????



  121. mike o'bryan
    10:00 am August 25, 2011 Permalink

    LEAVE RUPP ALONE, A RIDICULOUIS IDEA.



  122. UK Rifle >> WVU Rifle
    10:21 am August 25, 2011 Permalink

    Point #2 – corporate headquarters (not sure why it was deleted in the first place)

    When Rupp was built you had 3 major corporations in Lexington with founding ties to Kentucky
    1) Kentucky Central (a major insurance company in the US, now bankrupt)
    2) Jerrico / Long John Silvers (purchased by YUM!, now headquartered in Louisville)
    3) Ashland Oil / Valvoline (oil part now headquartered in Ohio, and Ashland now headquartered in Covington)

    Currently Lexington has ZERO Fortune 500 companies
    Louisville has #79 Humana, #214 Yum Brands
    Northern Kentucky has #272 Ashland, #371 Omnicare, and # 465 General Cable

    In the Fortune 1000 Lexington has # 526 Lexmark
    Louisville has Kindred Healthcare, Brow – Forman, PharMerica, Res – Care
    Out of the top 10 in the state, Lexington only has 1 corporate HQ, and it is not home grown as it was divested from IBM roughly 20 years ago.

    If you really want a new Rupp, and covet the YUM Center, the first thing is how do you attract Fortune 500 headquarters to call Lexington Kentucky their Old Kentucky Home. Also a corporate thought, we laugh at the Pizza Pit (Pappa Johns) and Double Down (YUM center) will we laugh at Vestas Windsystems Arena and Reed Elsevier Floor?



  123. UK Rifle >> WVU Rifle
    10:49 am August 25, 2011 Permalink

    Point #4 – Outside looking in from an outsider view – My conversations with professional hockey players

    1) Pay off the building – The old Hershey Sports Arena was built in 1936, and seated ~ 7,000 people – between 1936 and 2002 they brought home 8 Calder Cups (think NCAA banners) in an out of date building that played to capacity crowds. They moved into a new arena (with corporate name) about a decade ago with roughly 33% increase in seating – again if Rupp is not substantially bigger, why build a new one? They have won the Calder Cup since. Point being real fans support a team, and fair weather fans support a building

    2) Intimidation matters – from a person who played hockey in Rupp and played at the pro level I was once told how much this player loved Rupp. He responded that the seats rise quickly and with no corporate boxes the crowd was much more intimidating than the more modern venues. Not sure if this is true, but it would be nice to have an answer before we trade intimidating for shiny / new.



  124. bung
    10:54 am August 25, 2011 Permalink



  125. bung
    10:57 am August 25, 2011 Permalink

    4 year #s vs 3 year #s?



  126. rowdy7
    11:35 am August 25, 2011 Permalink

    You cannot renovate Rupp structurally to meet the current seating requirements. Build a larger arena 28-30K seats to keep the NCAA interested in returning to Lexington for tournaments. As for naming rights, contact Big Ass Fans for sponsorship so the new arena would be named “Big Ass Arena”.