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The Fallacy of Dual Fanhood

Let’s put this to rest once and for all: it is impossible to be a fan of both Kentucky and Louisville. I’ve met far too many people in my life who say that they root for both the Cats and the Cards. It just doesn’t work like that. There’s no way support two entities so fundamentally opposite from one another. Some of the unenlightened might try to hide behind the excuse that they root for all teams from Kentucky but that’s just cowardly. Sure, we all love when Murray State and Bellarmine play well – that’s fine. It’s even ok to feel a little sorry after knocking the Hilltoppers out of the tournament, but Louisville is a totally different animal with a totally incorrect dental scheme.

It’s hard to look for notable rivalries without conjuring up the image of good vs. evil, so for all intents and purposes let it be known: Kentucky is good and Louisville is evil. A person can’t support both good and evil. We are inherently one or the other. In the same way, we are inherently a Kentucky fan or a Louisville fan. I can only imagine the daily, tumultuous conflict waged within the soul of every person who professes to support both of the major teams from the Commonwealth. For the sake of public health, those people need to either combat their demons by choosing UK or embrace them by choosing U of L. It would be for the betterment of everyone to rid ourselves of these indecisive “fans”.

If you are the type of person that can’t pick a side in this debate then it’s probably likely that you can’t be trusted to make any real, serious decisions in your life. How could you trust a doctor to do surgery on you if they don’t have enough conviction to choose a rooting interest between Kentucky or Louisville? What about a lawyer wavering between a red tie or blue tie before representing you in a court of law? These people are living lies if they can’t even make the simple choice about which college team to support yet insist that they are productive members of society.

I implore you, if you are reading this now and live your life bearing the mantle of “dual fanhood,” please just pick a side. If you pick Kentucky, know that I’ll love you with my whole heart. You’ll be officially joining the ranks of the most passionate fanbase in the world and you won’t regret the decision for a moment. However if you want to pick Louisville, I won’t be upset. I’ll be happy to have one less degenerate posing as a Kentucky fan. That being said, please avoid the comment section. We’ve already got enough trolls as it is.

Article written by Matthew Hays

141 Comments for The Fallacy of Dual Fanhood

  1. emlang08
    12:05 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I’m From Louisville, KY – No reason a die hard Blue fan can not Pull for Louisville in all games except two.

    For one, It sure makes Us look a lot better when we are the only team that Slaughters them!

  2. TheNewOriginal
    12:08 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I’m with number 1. Try working in Indiana for a while and tell me you’ll pull for any Big 10 team over Louisville. Always a Kentucky fan, but after working on the road for 30+ years, state pride overrides the petty BS bickering.

  3. Stuck in SC
    12:08 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Agree with #1… though I personally would prefer they just lose every game.

  4. jp15
    12:11 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I never want to lose to Louisville in any sport! However, I hate them less now that Pitino is their coach. He did too many good things at UK to hate him to the degree that I did prior to his arrival.

  5. Dickie Z
    12:11 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Corey Nichols needs to reads this, over and over and over.
    #1 – you are wrong. #Louisvilledoesntexist

  6. phk
    12:11 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I’m happy for UL, got to root for the interests of our in-state brothers. That being said, there’s not team I dislike more than lil’ bro when we play them, save perhaps Duke. Losing to UL in the FF would sting for years. But let’s be honest, it’s not going to happen.

  7. Go eff urself
    12:12 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Agree with #1. You don’t own my fanhood. Grow up.

  8. OhioJoe4UK
    12:12 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I can’t even pretend that I’m a UL fan. It provokes nausea and vomiting.

  9. TheNewOriginal
    12:12 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Come to think of it, I can’t think of many of the fans from other schools that were as arrogant as the writers on KSR. You guys are the epitome of what most hate about a fan base. A very significant UK booster made the comment a couple of weeks ago “The only people that hate Matt Jones more than Louisville fans are the informed Kentucky fans.”

  10. catinhat
    12:12 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    This is going to be the longest week if thee year.

    And after Monday, its going to be a very long 7 months.

  11. Scott Miller
    12:13 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I am a native Louisvillian (went to St.X, now living in Annapolis, MD). I will be for the Cards on Saturday, but if they lose, I will be rooting for the Cats in the Final. Kentucky is my second favorite team, after Louisville. I don’t understand the hate in the kind of KY fans you describe. That is probably why if Louisville wins, most KY fans will not cheer for UL in the final. If Kentucky wins, I would bet that more than 50% of Cardinal fans will cheer for KY in the final. That is called having a broader perspective.

  12. CaptainRamius
    12:15 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    never understood how Kentucky fans can marry Louisville fans. I’ve broken off multiple relationships because I found out that the girl was a closet Cardinal. Can’t do it.

  13. minton
    12:15 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I like both, but I will ALWAYS be for the Cats when they play each other. I was taught to never hate to oposing team. It’s called sportsmanship. Most people don’t know what that means these days.

  14. Laker Cat 18
    12:15 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    You all are nuts. I’d pull for Ohio State or Kansas over Louisville any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Hopefully the Cats will win and I won’t have to. “Louisville” and “hate” are similar words in my vocabulary.

  15. Doug
    12:17 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    You must keep in mind that you have some boomers who are fans of your site. We grew up not playing Louisville. There is no hate in our chemistry toward them. They are just another team we want to beat. This hate business or good vs evil serves no useful purpose. Just beat them as we routinely do and move on.

  16. phk
    12:17 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    11) I very seriously doubt that. UL has just as many thick-headed fans who would not only root against us, but probably pray for injury to our players. It’s a rivalry, that’s the whole point.

  17. Laker Cat 18
    12:17 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    12. You and me both brother. The future agony is just not worth it.

  18. TheNewOriginal
    12:19 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    13/ Exactly. Sportsmanship/Class – Antonym: KSR

  19. DavisBrow
    12:19 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I have been a die hard UK fan my entire life. However, I ended up attending UL. I was quoted in my life as saying “I wouldn’t go to UL, even if they offered me a new car.” But once I was shown exactly how much money they were willing to give me to attend, I couldn’t pass it up. The program that they had was better for what I wanted as well.. This didn’t stop me from wearing my UK gear during my visit Senior year of HS, or the entire time I was on campus. However, when they did not play UK, I did root for them because they were good to me (for the most part). This is really one of the only situations where I can see a UK fan “rooting” for UL. I am by no means a true fan. I don’t openly cheer during games, its more I wish them the best type situation. To be honest though, there are times I still find myself rooting against them due to sheer habit.

  20. Grammar King
    12:20 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I’m not entirely sure Mr. Hays even has the sort of conviction that leads him to believe what he has posted. It is obviously entirely possible to root for another team, be they a rival or not, when they play anyone but your favorite team. This is just an incendiary piece to get the comments flowing, and I’ve fallen for it.

  21. CatsFan
    12:20 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Love the commenters that quote “a very significant UK booster” I am an informed UK fan, I am intelligent and well reasoned a love this site and am very grateful to MJ and the entire KSR staff for keeping UK fandom fun and accessible to someone trapped outside of the Bluegrass. Go. Big. Blue. #8pril is coming

  22. East KY UK Fan
    12:21 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I can be thankful that Louisville dosn’t suck cause it helps our non conference SOS but I don’t loose sleep when they get beat like I do when UK drops a game. I would never really ever cheer for Louisville. If you say your a fan of both than your not a die hard fan for either. Die hard fans are either UK or Louisville but not both.

  23. symphonist
    12:22 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    #4 – I completely agree. And yes it’s possible to be a “conditional” fan, meaning you don’t really HOPE Louisville loses except when they play Kentucky. I hated Denny Crum’s self-righteous holier-than-thou attitude while he was coach & relished everytime they lost because that meant HE lost. But apparently most readers of this site forget what it was like in 1989 (or they weren’t even born yet) when the NCAA almost shut down Kentucky basketball for good thanks to Eddie “I’m Thirsty” Sutton, Dwayne Casey, etc. Pitino resurrected the program from ashes, brought pride back, and did it in less than half the time most every other coach on earth would have been able to do it in. I’ll always be grateful for that even as I clinch my teeth over the whole Karen Sypher ordeal and listening to his massive ego overflow every time he opens his mouth. I do NOT blame him for going to Louisville from the Celtics; it was the best college job available when he decided to get back into the college game. I WOULD have hated him for going to UofL directly from UK. All the above being said, I hope we’re unmerciful on the Cards on Saturday so maybe some of their trolls will find something else to do other than get on a UK site.

  24. KYWildcat04
    12:22 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I live in NKY and I couldn’t care less about the alleged Louisville/UK rivalry. I guess it’s because I am separated from it all. Come to think of it, I have never met a Cardinal fan up here in NKY.

    I’m true blue all the way but I have no ill will towards Pitino or the Cards. If by some miracle the Cards were to beat us on Saturday then I hope the Cards win it all.

  25. Shane
    12:22 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Not a Cards fan, but I have no problem rooting for them against the teams I really like to see lose (Duke, UNC, Kansas, UCLA,and Duke)…oh and any team from Ohio. I think is is really interesting the difference in attitude between those folks who remember when we didn’t even play them and the younger set.

  26. SexnNursinHomes
    12:24 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I wish cancer on myself if I EVER root for ul. AIDS too. Doesn’t matter. In a choice between ul and dying. I’ll take death.

  27. GoCats2
    12:27 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    My theory on this is the people who say they root for both schools are not really sports fans or basketball fans. All they want is the local news to be talking about these schools. I have a friend in Louisville who says her family is a fan of both schools but did not know that UL won the Big East tourney. These are not true Fans just like hearing these schools talked about. Anyone who is a true supporter of either school can not realistically cheer for the other.

  28. Marquis Estill
    12:27 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I’m so glad someone finally wrote this,A house divided is the most horrid thing ever….THANK YOU Matthew Hays you represent us so very well

  29. girlie cat
    12:27 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I am from Louisville and this house divided thing does not make sense to me! On the first date…. Me: UK or UL Date: UL Me: Thanks for dinner. Deal breaker in the dating process.

  30. Bladak
    12:28 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Most of the folks on here picking a side or two are younger posters (<30 years). Not saying that youth sways the opinion or that the older are more enlightened, but what I am saying is that before 1983 our teams hadn't even played for 3 decades and only 3 times after the 1920's. The series since 1983 has been fun because it does create this playful "who is best in the state" scenario. As someone born in J-Town a while before the 1983 series began, people in the area grew up as fans of both programs. In fact, most people were a Commonwealth first fan back in the 1960's and 70's. I like the playfulness of the rivalry and will cheer for UK everytime they matchup, but saying you can't be a fan of both programs is…well…inexperienced.

  31. @_KidCody
    12:30 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    If you “pull for both teams”, you are a casual fan. A t shirt fan. That’s fine, but don’t you dare call yourself a diehard. It belittles the ones of us who actually bleed blue.

  32. Marquis Estill
    12:33 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    How can anyone who lives loves and bleeds blue even think about the possibility of rooting for Louisville its blasphemy …TRAITORS PICK YOUR SIDE

  33. strange brew
    12:34 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Totally disagree. Only nut-case fans who would sell their kids for tickets think this way.

    I was born and still live in Louisville. I am only a UK fan because my dad is from Salway, Kentucky (find that on a map). He’s 79, I’m 30. I took after him at a very early age rooting for UK. Uk is by far, my favorite sports team.

    When UofL plays anyone I will gladly root for them. Two of my sisters are UofL fans as are most of my friends. When UK plays UofL I am 100% a UK fan. I want UK to tear UofL up come Saturday.

    I dislike UofL’s fanbase. I find them to be fair-weather lairs. My dad also taught me that at an early age. I can recall being age 5 or six watching UofL during the Crum days. UofL fans are known to boo their own players and coaches during games. Once they win they pretend to be “real fans”. My dad pointed that out to me.

  34. East KY UK Fan
    12:34 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I agree with 28 and 32.

  35. Cardsux
    12:36 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Live in Louisville and will never pull for Louisville. Point blank period.

  36. Sam
    12:37 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I reject the premise of this post. I think maybe the tongue-in-cheek(?) hyperbole of “good v. evil” is what got me.

    I will always respect what Pitino did for this program, and despite what many think, he deserves it. I hate that he went to UL, but hey, whatevs. It ended up great for us….eventually.

    No I don’t root for UL. But I only actively root AGAINST them when they play us. And there is nothing wrong with the commonwealth Kentucky being the pinnacle of CBB, and we need UL playing well to claim that.

  37. CatfaninNashvegas
    12:38 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I have no real hate for Louisville. I really give them no thought at all except when they are in UK’s path. We dispose of them and move on.

  38. Davey, Davey, Shelton
    12:39 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I am a UL fan. I’d be worried if Cal was coaching the Cards
    and Rick UK, but that isn’t the case so I feel confident
    #1 goes down Saturday.

  39. Cardsux
    12:40 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I won’t use SOS or any other reason to pull for UL either. You can be a UL fan and pull for both, but you cannot be TRUE BLUE and pull for the Tards. It’s just the way it is.

  40. strange brew
    12:41 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    @ 39,

    Keep dreaming. UofL sucks. One of the worst Final Four teams I’ve maybe seen during my lifetime.

  41. Rixter
    12:42 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I think Pitino to Louisville probably doubled the hatred that Cats fans had for Louisville.
    It’s like your wife divorcing you and shacking up with your brother. Are you still going to ‘respect her for the years she gave you’?

  42. Cardsux
    12:42 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    37 I actively root against UL if they are competing in Ping Pong. Makes no difference.

  43. Kentucky Gentleman
    12:44 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    9, I completely agree.

  44. Gobigblue
    12:47 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I bet that “significant UK booster” is one of the guys who won’t even wear blue to the games at Rupp.

    If you wanna cheer for UL, fine. But don’t call yourself a diehard UK fan. There is no room for both. You ever heard of a person who cheers for both Duke and UNC? Or both Ohio st. and Michigan? The answer is a resounding no. Same applies to UK-UL.

  45. Sam
    12:47 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    @43, Hahahah, fair enough.

  46. Digger? I hardly know her.
    12:47 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    9 – right there with you

  47. Cardsux
    12:48 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    9 No other program could drive a college hoop website traffic like UK can. Your point is moot. If UL had more than 100 fans that could enter a web address correctly they would do it.

  48. KYWildcat04
    12:49 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    @ 33, where does the hate for U of L come from? I don’t get it. We are better than them in every way. Their team has never caused me grief. I bet you don’t even know why you hate Louisville.

  49. Martha
    12:50 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    #9&#47 then why do you come to this site?

  50. Devils Advocate
    12:54 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Would a Duke fan root for UNC? Would a UNC fan root for Duke?

  51. @_KidCody
    12:55 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    “Hey Joe, what are you doing?”
    “Posting on KSR again”
    “Don’t you hate Matt Jones and that site?”
    “Yeah, but if I don’t read every article and post in the comments, they’ll never know how much I hate them!”


  52. Cats on a mission
    12:55 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    UofL is evil. Point. Blank. Period.

  53. Cardsux
    12:55 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Where does the hatred come from? Who says it has to do with HATE? Just because someone does not root for a program no matter the location, does not mean hatred. There’s ZILCH about UL that gives me a reason to support. But there’s a thousand reasons I can think of to NOT support them. Sample 1, my whole family supports UK. Only my mother-in-law supports UL. Do j really need to go further?

  54. KYTransplant
    12:56 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    This column is hilarious and is what makes me miss Kentucky. I am a Louisville native living in Boston, MA. Growing up, my dad was a UK fan but my mom went to UL. I was a big UK fan until I moved out of the state. I now identify more with Louisville, the city, than KY, the state, and root for the Cards. If the Cats win, of course I’ll go for them in the Final Game. My loyalties are to state and city. But I know that this duality would be impossible if I was still back home living in the Highlands.

  55. Super Annuated
    12:56 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    #39, Don’t you know your first name? Do you have to repeat it to know who you are? Your support of Pitino gives me comfort, given your level of mental acuity.

  56. Cals Runts!
    12:56 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Q- what tinnier than a tiny Winnie flea?
    A- a flea’s tiny winnie! UofL is a flea’s tiny winnie!!!

  57. cbizzle
    12:57 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    i love uk and i consider myself a super fan, but i dont hate louisville, i actually root for louisville when they play almost everybody else expect kentucky, cause i want my rivals at their best when we beat them… just think if louisville lost every game, then it wouldnt be such as rivalry, so the team of louisville, i dont hate, like most uk fans… the louisville fanbase tho, they can go suck a fat one

  58. Gre8ness
    12:58 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Cheering for Loserville is pathetic. You cannot cheer for an arch rival ever.

  59. catman
    12:59 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I disagree with 28&32. I am a huge cats fan and cheer for them no matter what, but living in/growing up in Louisville makes me cheer for them as long as they are not playing Kentucky. My lady goes to UofL now and we watch both games together and cheer for the other school but we will not be watching this one together (no reason to break up with a girl)… Go cats

  60. randomer
    12:59 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Right on!!!!!!!!!!

  61. Chris
    1:00 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I begin to wonder how many people that hate either UL or UK have lived out of the state. Once you have lived out of our beloved state for a while, you begin to root for anything from KY. I will say that, for me, when the Cats and Cards play each other, I’m cheering for the Cats. But I root for the Cards, Racers, Hilltoppers, etc whenever they aren’t playing the Cats. For me, I would like to see this passion be directed at the Dukies. How can anyone stand to see that shot again?

  62. Bob Diggity
    1:00 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I grew up just south of Lexington. Born and raised to Bleed Blue. I’ve lived in Louisville for 5 years now and I still hate the University of Louisville with a burning passion. Love the city. Hate the school. Go Big Blue!

  63. Cardsux
    1:01 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Who cares about the rivalry????? UL could every game and I would relish it. Wouldn’t feel the least bit sorry for them. Would not care about SOS. Would not care if their program shut down completely. Would be happy to then channel that energy toward Duke.

  64. john4uk
    1:02 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I strongly and wholeheartedly root for Louisville …………to lose every game they play in all sports.

  65. Bob Diggity
    1:03 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    62) It’s perfectly acceptable to root for Racers, Toppers, Colonels, in fact, I encourage it when they aren’t playing UK. However, there is a difference between cheering for a state school and cheering for your rival.

    Let’s say Louisville was located on the banks of the Ohio in Indiana. They are still our rival, just not technically in state. Is it okay to hate them then?

  66. Cardsux
    1:03 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    60. If stereotypes hold true for UL fans and the looks and common sense of one, sure there’s reason to break up with her.

  67. best1978
    1:06 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I have no problem with UL the team or even the coach. But, there are actually no Card fans. There are only Kentucky haters.

  68. Chicago Chris
    1:09 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I root for UK first. Next, I root for SEC teams, because a strong, successful SEC helps Kentucky. Next, I do root for Louisville, because a strong rival team within the state of Kentucky helps the Cats. If UL/UK could be more like UNC/Duke, excepting the differing conferences, that’s a good thing.

    Again, CATS first, and that’s why I can root for SEC and, at times, UL.

  69. WalkersGoggles
    1:12 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I grew up in Western Kentucky and WDRB was a station we picked up down there so I saw a ton of Louisville games while they played in the Metro. Then the 83 game happened and at that point you had to choose which team you would root for FOR THAT GAME. But eventually you put more of your focus on you team for that game(Kentucky) eventually you start losing interest in the other one. Or at least I did. Hell, I can rattle off a ton of Louisville players’ names up until a certain point then it starts getting a little fuzzy.I never hated Louisville I was just indifferent to them. Like Murray.

    I agree that a lot of Louisville fans aren’t as diehard as Kentucky fans. I know a guy who says he is a “fan” of Louisville and he didn’t even watch the game on Saturday!

    I think a lot of hate comes from fans that are from small towns that look at Louisville the city like it’s the setting from “Escape from New York”. I moved here last year after living the past 10 years in Chicago and I love it. It has a small town feel about it but there’s a lot to do like a bigger city.

    The guy that wrote this article kind of got it backwards. Kentucky is looked at as the evil empire and Louisville(school) is looked at like the little guy who gets no respect even though they usually have some nice success.

    That all being said, I hope we kick the Cards teeth in on Saturday.

  70. You Can Call Me Cal
    1:16 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Talked to a guy this morning who said it’s a win-win either way because he roots for both teams….UGH give me a break. All that means is you’re not really a fan. That is some weak ish and it just don’t sit right with me.

  71. MntCat
    1:17 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    “I’d root for the Taliban before I’d root for Louisville”

  72. Noleg34
    1:22 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I’d rather my son tell me he was gay, then have him tell me he was a Louisville fan. I would still love him if he were gay.

  73. Notinthecards
    1:29 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I thought House Divided meant someone in the house is a Card fan and another person (spouse, child, etc.)in the house is a Cat fan, or whatever the ratio may be.

  74. East KY UK Fan
    1:31 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    62. I lived in Ohio for a few years I was still only a die hard UK fan. The only other team I cheered for was whichever SEC school was going to whip Ohio State in the BCS bowl that year.

    1:38 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    House divided means that I’m not really a fan I just like to be apart of the action

  76. Rae
    1:38 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    There are times when it benefits UK for UL to win. Like against Indiana, Duke and for me personally Ohio State (I hate Buckeyes even more than Hoosiers.) When Duke loses, we all win. Against Indiana, we could laugh at them being beaten by little brother. Simply put, sometimes it is ok to ask for lil bro to do you a favor.

  77. Hashla
    1:48 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Stupid article and I guess a way to kill time. People can root for whomever they choose and it doesn’t make them less of a fan. People like the writer of this article need to get a clue and a life. Who is he to say I can’t root for the Cats and root for U of L too when they aren’t playing each other . Articles like this make people around the country laugh at and truly believe UK fans have no lives .

  78. Joe Dan
    1:53 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    No way in HELL I want to lose to UL…. I’d rather have a 2-week root-canal—but that is utter rubbish.

    I am and have been RABIDLY Blue since the 1970s … but when UK is NOT playing UL, I root for UL. Its great for the state of KY. And its great for basketball.

    And love him or hate him—Pitino saved our collective ass—-he took us from NCAA Death Penalty’s door….gave us a championship—and when he left, he left the cupboard full.

    1:59 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    You guys wanna hear a joke??……………………………………………………………………………………………………..RICK PITINO.

    2:00 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink


  81. East KY UK Fan
    2:03 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    78. UK fans have a life and their life revolves around UK basketball.

  82. @_KidCody
    2:10 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    “Who says I can’t root for the south as long as they aren’t fighting the North? Who says I can cheer for the crips as long as they aren’t shooting at Bloods?”

    If you consider yourself a UK fan, and cheer equally for Louisville, you have every right to do so….but we define what it means to be a fan very differently. The rivalry between the two is inherently a giant part of belonging to either fanbase. By “cheering for both” you are completely forgoing that component. If that is what you want, fine, but again I don’t think its a stretch to consider you a “casual” fan at that point.

    There are those among us that want more out of being a fan. Those among us that wake up at the crack of dawn on gamedays and pace the house until tip off. Those among us that shed tears of joy and sadness and are proud to stand by our team in both victory and defeat. These fans know that true dedication can’t be spread between the two teams.

    If belonging to that group means I have “no life” , then yes, I don’t. And Im damn proud.

  83. Just wondering
    2:10 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I agree with 31. I remember what shape UK was in when Pitino came.I don’t think anyone else could have done the job he.It makes it impossible to hate him.Pitino had many chance the leave and he stayed until his dream job came along with 80 million.I don’t see UL of much of a rival because they really been relevant to challenge us.(some older then me remember them when Crum was in his hey day will think different)I just don’t see how a die hard could root for any team other then UK.

    2:16 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    True fans root blue and only blue….Thats it plain and simple, no two ways about it, fair and square , Straight and even, No two sides to the story, black and white, no grey, brass tacks, to the core.

    Is everyone clear on what im doing here ?

  85. Rick Robey
    2:20 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I root UK and happily root for Louisville…. to crash and burn right into the Atlantic 10 and compete for NIT championships

  86. Just wondering
    2:21 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    #78 Who’s the Dumb ass.Us who readily admit were die hards.Read everything UK and obsess over everything UK.Or people like you who read the same articles, post on the same sites and claim to be a saint.Yes you can be a fan of who ever you want that’s your choice.But the die hards among us know you can’t be for anything other then UK.the ones who don’t get that are not among us.

  87. yep.
    2:24 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    yeah, it’s not impossible.

    I grew up down the street (literally) from Rupp. I went to graduate school at UofL. I’ve been a fan of both teams for quite a long time.

    Also, my dick is big enough, and I’m generally content with my life. I need not describe myself as “a rabid fan” or make hyperbolic pronouncements about how others are being the wrong kind of fan (really?!), or get wrapped up in the lives of 19 year olds to have a reason to get out of bed. It’s a game, their kids, and louisville fans are people too. Get a grip.

    #9 … I agree, but not in regards to Beisner and Jones. Each do it right.

  88. KY First
    2:25 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I completely disagree. Kentucky pride comes first so rooting for UL and UK is perfectly fine. Unless Louisville is playing the cats I root for them. I’ve never understood the UK/UL hate fest.

  89. Am I informed?
    2:25 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    #9 – What qualifies as an informed UK fan? How is one more informed than another? Why must one hate Matt Jones in order to obtain the said level of information?

  90. jacocat
    2:34 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I cant imagine a Duke fan or UNC fan rooting for the other, I cant root for UL or Tenn either.

  91. The Cheese
    2:38 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I completely agree. I am sick of some people saying they support both teams. These morons also cheer for God and Satan.

  92. The Cheese
    2:39 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    89 is a hippie. Grow a sack and pick a team.

  93. rhettzi
    2:40 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I hate Louisville more than anything in this world. and I expect Lou fans to hate Ky just as much. You CANNOT be a fan of both, or even a diehard that pulls for the other side when your team is out. It works both ways- if you are Ky fan, you hate Lou/ vice versa- otherwise in my books you really are not a fan a all….

  94. markp
    2:40 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    With Pitino making remarks like, this is the best thing that has ever happened to me aside from the birth of my 6 children, after U of L beat Florida. I cannot root for that BSer ever. I try not to watch U of L play ever, in anything, because I end up rooting against them. That’s what sport’s rivalries are all about. The house divided crowd is just being luke warm about being a fan.

  95. the Big Dog
    2:43 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    During the worst years of the cold war when we were facing nuclear annihilation, U of L played a scrimmage game against the Russians. I rooted for the Russians.

  96. InternationalPhilosophy
    2:48 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    psst….God and Satan are the same guy.

  97. 00BBN00
    2:53 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    you can claim to be a fan of both teams as long as we can call you a fair weather fan.

  98. fiddlestix
    3:02 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I’ve followed them since the runts, but I guess I’m fair-weather, because I root for Louisville after UK and SEC.

  99. NoShoesJack
    3:08 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I can be supportive of Louisville, when they are not playing Kentucky (or Morehead State. HA HA!) And while I want Kentucky smash the filthy cards to oblivion this weekend, I appreciate that KENTUCKY as a state, is the epicenter of Basketball Greatness, and part of that greatness includes Louisville.

  100. CardsandCatsFan
    3:16 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Both of my parents are native Kentuckians. Neither attended college but I was raised a UK fan. I have traveled to see them play in St. Pete (Duke game, ’98), San Jose, CA, San Antonio, TX (championship), and Birmingham. I was lucky to have season basketball tickets one season. I did not attend either UK or UL undergrad, but I did get a graduate degree from UL. I live in Louisville. I have four sons. My wife went to WKU and has a graduate degree from UL. Slowly but surely, I became a UL fan, but I’ve never abandoned my deep rooted loyalty to UK, and I always root for the Cats unless they are playing the Cards. My degree is from UL so when forced to choose, that’s my choice. And we have state of the art facilities and it’s a great form of entertainment for my boys. I see the good in both teams and see no reason to for mean spirited insults either way. This is absolutely my favorite time of year and I’m blessed that two teams I love are in the Final Four. I see almost no possibility that the Cards will win on Saturday and won’t be surprised if it’s a 15-20 point loss. But you have to respect the fact that a team with such modest talent has made it this far, largely thanks to hustle and heart.

  101. East Kentucky Infidel
    3:22 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I’d vote for Barack Hussein Obama before I’d root for the Cards.

  102. Go cats.
    3:56 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    This is ridiculous. Louisivlle is our arch rival, yes. But why would you HATE them? If you wish they’d lose every single game then what’s the fun in us playing them? It’s no longer a rivalry at that point. Nothing could be more exciting and controversial then this “civil war” game, and makes the victory all the more sweet.

  103. tltaworl
    4:25 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I was born in Louisville, my Dad went to UofL. And the ONLY reason my family will pull for UofL is if it benefits UK. For instance, I would rather play UofL than Florida because I think it will be an easier game. So I was hoping they would win so we could have an easier road to #8. I fully agree with this post, no reason to root for UofL when they are not playing UK. None.

  104. tltaworl
    4:26 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I agree with 102. I would be fine if the city of Louisville was annexed by Indiana. Or if it just crumbled away and broke off and floated down the Ohio.

  105. tltaworl
    4:27 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    89. Kentucky pride is Sausage. Pick a team!

  106. Rick Robey
    5:01 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink


  107. Henry Winkler
    5:04 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I would rather drown in vat of Oprah’s ass juice than root for the Cards

  108. Louie Louie Louie Louie!!
    5:12 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Rooting for Louisville is the equivalent of of rooting for satan…..It’s science

  109. Walsh is gay
    5:42 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Hyperbole and fallacious thought seem to sum up the “pick a side” crowd. Not surprising, considering its the younger folks.

    I’m a younger folk, yet I readily root for UofL when they don’t play the Cats. I also sit down at games, even in Rupp and Commonwealth.

    Oh, I’m the youngest member of my cities alumni asscosiation board, watch every game multiple times, takes many, many hours of my precious free time to make digital images in support of and create posters to take to games for my Cats. I go to the pep rallies, play frisbee with the UK trumpet section, and dream of making Kentucky merchandise as a future way of earning my living.

    I’m a true-blue, diehard fan, and I’m young to boot. Screw you if you think for a second that supporting your state is incongruent with being a “true” fan. Wait, let me reword that for the idiotic drones screaming about choosing a side, so they’ll understand:

    I can be a hardcore fan and root for the Cards. My self-worth is big enough to have both. Bite me if you think those are mutually exclusive. Oops, sorry I know those words are too big for you: bite me of you think a fan can’t have both.

  110. Louie Louie Louie Louie!!
    5:43 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    110 do you sit down when you pee too??

  111. Louie Louie Louie Louie!!
    5:44 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    110-if you root for louisville you are not die hard or true blue you are denied that when you thought it was cool to root for the cards

  112. big whopper
    5:50 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I agree with 112 you cant have both and call yourself “diehard” or “true blue” you give that up when you root for UL

    Does UNC root for Duke??
    Does Texas root for Texas A&M??
    Does Miami yearn for Florida to make to a bowl??
    Does Michigan just die if Michigan St gets knocked out??

    Get real people this is a no brainer argument…One team one fanhood

  113. floppy the clown
    5:54 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    112- You sir are what we call a homosexual

  114. floppy the clown
    5:54 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    sorry i meant 110…i agree with you 112

  115. Triggerman
    5:57 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    110-It has now been agreed you have no penis

  116. 00
    6:36 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Ok Socretes. This is the biggest load of crap I have read in a while. It is really not that hard to cheer for both, you just can’t cheer for both equally. I want the dirty birds to do well, just not as well as KY because it’s better for the state and the rivalry. Louisville will always be UK’s little brother, no doubt about that but you write like this site is the gold standard for all things factual. Come down of that high horse and don’t get your feelings hurt because there are people more pragmatic than you. You are the worst kind of UK fan, and you are starting to sound like one of those Louisville fans that just piss you off every time they open their mouth.

  117. Rekalin Sims
    6:46 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    @117 You are the worst type of pansy UK fan and you can go have a 15 second pleasure ride with pitino

    WE ARE UK!!!!

  118. Cals Gals
    6:50 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Nice article …I hate the house divided and its good for the state people SHUT UP AND CHOOSE YOUR SQUAD OTHERWISE YOUR JUST EMBARRASING OUR FANBASE

  119. 00
    7:24 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Agreed 119. I guess Coach Cal can just shut up and choose his squad and stop embarrasing our fan base.

  120. yoder
    7:34 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    117&120- You suck as a Wildcat fan go wear red

  121. 00
    7:42 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    That is something I will never wear.

  122. Walsh is Gay
    7:53 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    119, “otherwise your just embarrasing our fanbase” Uh… You’re*, and embarrassing*.

    You know that stereotype about the loud, crazy redneck who is way, way too polarized about everything? You give lie to that and make us look like morons every time you push your typo-ridden drivel.

    Where does this absurd mob mentality come from? As 117 said, since when has pragmatism been a bad thing? Besides which, it’s fallacious to say that you can’t be a “true” fan and root for both. Nothing constitutes “true” fandom. Get a grip and realize that your arbitrary opinion of what a fan should be is both arbitrary and an opinion. Neither holds sway.

    And yes, I do know UNC/Duke fans who root for their state. I know OSU/Michigan fans who root for their conference. Thinking big doesn’t make you a bad fan. It makes you a fan who thinks big. Imagine that.

  123. matty ice
    8:12 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    It looks to me as though 120 and 123 are just plain wrong and 123 just uses big words to make his point sound edgier and right….Pick a side and go with it you can’t have it both ways

  124. Robukpt
    8:20 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    You do have to love the “very informed booster” crack. I guess that means if you’re not a booster you are too dumb and too poor to formulate your own opinion. THAT is the arrogance that hurts the national perception of this fan base.

    You’d be lucky to find 5% of UL fans cheering for Kentucky. The only thing they love more than a louisville win is a Kentucky loss.

  125. nc cat
    8:21 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Cognitive dissonance………like when you *like* Obama but say you’re a fiscal conservative………you just can’t have it both ways………Go Cats!!

  126. BlueCat
    8:54 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Matthew Hays is just friggin STUPID.

  127. Kenny H
    9:19 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I would rather have a sister in the whore house that root for UL.

  128. Yeeah Boy!!!
    9:23 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    Matthew Hays AWESOME!!! for writing this everyone hates those people I puke when i see a house divided symbol those people ruin the fanbase

  129. Yeeah Boy!!!
    9:24 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    And I would rather trade places with karen sypher than root for Louisville

  130. ihatetennessee
    11:25 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    #74 I do believe after reading this that you and I are the only ones who understand the meaning of those house dived signs. But still I hope we embarrass them before the whole nation

  131. Michael
    11:29 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I cheer for UK first followed by any SEC school second. After that, it’s any team playing against Louisville, Duke, or any Big East school. If the last three teams play each other, I hope for a way that both teams stilll somehow lose. In the Revolutionany War, you didn’t cheer for both sides.

  132. Yeeah Boy!!!
    11:50 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink


  133. P PAT
    11:53 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    I would rather eat Shagari Alleynes dirty laundry than root for U of L

  134. Toby
    11:56 pm March 26, 2012 Permalink

    This subject is very hard on a lot of my friends. One of my best friends went as far as to tell me that i’m a hoosier this weekend after I stated that how about them cards!!. She said as far as she was concerned that Louisville was in Indiana. Since that I was born in Louisville and my grandmother always said that you root for both of the schools unless they play each other,then you root for the cats!!! I’m for UK all the way but as long I’m from Louisville and they are not playing the cats I’m fine with them. So you people out there who can’t handle that just get over yourself and deal with that Louisville is the sister city to Lexington and that you should cheer for your own state.

  135. P PAT
    12:06 am March 27, 2012 Permalink

    eat shit toby

  136. P PAT
    12:07 am March 27, 2012 Permalink

    Like its been posted a million times you cant root for both just deal with and pick a side

  137. The man
    12:35 am March 27, 2012 Permalink

    If you think you can root for U of L go suck a fat one at porcini’s…i know 123 is down lol

  138. billy boy
    12:37 am March 27, 2012 Permalink

    Really should this even be an option good post matt hayes people who can’t decide are fags

  139. Line Beard fo life
    12:39 am March 27, 2012 Permalink

    As a U of L fan its pretty sad that people want to root for us when they’re UK fans…WOW pick a side or get out!!!!

  140. Sam
    11:10 am March 27, 2012 Permalink

    This whole thread, in a nushell, to me, is a microcosmic illustration of everything that is wrong with our country today.