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Suspensions for Xavier-Cincy brawl announced

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It takes something either very special or very crazy to keep a buzzer-beater to knock off the #1 ranked team from being the biggest college basketball story of the weekend, but Cincinnati and Xavier breaking into a Royal Rumble at the end of their game managed just that yesterday. Today, the discipline for the melee was handed down, with four players from each team being suspended for their roles in the ruckus.

Cincinnati’s best player and the most egregious offender in the scuffle, Yancy Gates, was suspended for six games. That’s two fewer games than the number of stitches that Xavier’s Kenny Frease needed to close the cut that resulted from Gates sucker-punching him. Freshmen Octavious Ellis and Cheikh Mbodj, who kicked Frease while he was on the ground after the Gates punch, were also suspended six games. Ge’Lawn Guyn received a one-game suspension.

For Xavier, Landen Amos and Dez Wells, who shoved Guyn as he jawed with Tu Holloway to push things over the top, were both suspended four games. Junior Mark Lyons got two games and Holloway, an All-American candidate, received a one-game suspension.

Honestly, this is pretty much a joke, especially the Gates suspension. He landed a clean shot on Frease, then went looking for, and found, some more people to swing at before the fight finally settled down. Most people agreed after reviewing the video yesterday that Gates deserved ten games at least, and I have to agree. Instead, the suspension will encompass five games against teams that are terrible and end one game into the Big East schedule after he misses UC’s game against Pitt, which they would lose either way. It’s basically a slap on the wrist given the offense, and it makes Mick Cronin’s “we’ll see who’s on the team” line from yesterday look like a bunch of BS. Cronin received a lot of praise for his post-game press conference, but it seems those were mostly empty words. If I landed an unprovoked punch on someone, I’d probably face charges. Yancy Gates does it, in a college basketball game, and he gets suspended for games against such powers as Wright State, Arkansas-Pine Bluff, and Chicago State. Justice is served.

Here’s the video of the brawl if you haven’t seen it:

Article written by Hunter Campbell

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58 Comments for Suspensions for Xavier-Cincy brawl announced



  1. STL.cat
    9:06 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    that’s a travesty. gates and the one who kicked frease while he was on the ground should be kicked off the team, and i would say the same thing if this happened on Kentucky. That truly was an embarrassment to the game, and the “punishment” only makes it more of a joke.



  2. STL.cat
    9:06 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    also, first.



  3. reality
    9:08 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    that’s why these teams woun’t amount to a hill of beans anytime soon…



  4. He Hate Me
    9:10 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    Tu Holloway deserved to be suspended more games. He was jawing at the bench before he got face to face with the other player and his post game comments were moronic. But he is a “star” player so not too surprised.



  5. Holler Baller
    9:10 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    What a joke, if I do that at work or at a bar I’m going to jail. The coward who threw the sucker punch should be off the team, if not facing charges.



  6. BBN
    9:14 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    WTF?? Gates should be gone for the season. If I were Frease I would bring criminal charges against him. What a joke…



  7. DJ Mooly Mool
    9:16 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    Yancey Gates should be charged with assualt and battery



  8. catcrawler
    9:17 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    Any of them that threw a punch or kick should be send to China to play against that Beijing team that beat up Georgetown. Send the whole Cincy team, they some thugs. Go beat the crap out of Chinese Communists.



  9. Onions
    9:18 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    Why does playing a college game protect you from prosecution? Jones, can you answer this? Seriously, that should result in jail time, why is Gates not arrested like he would be in any other situation? I’ll hang up and listen.



  10. JaredCarterIsMyHomeboy
    9:20 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    I wouldn’t say Yancy Gates punch was “unprovoked”. It was pretty provoked. Yancy did deserve to get a 10 game suspension or kicked from the team.

    I think Tu Holloway should have got at least a 4 game suspension for showing no remorse after the fact, and even trying to justify it in his mind. The way he was running around, standing on the scorerers table, waving his arms and yelling, he should be held accountable for being a “gangster” in his own words.



  11. Onions
    9:22 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    I’d seriously love to hear Matt’s take on how basic laws aren’t applied in the setting of a sporting event.



  12. Hero
    9:28 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    Yates should be dismissed from the team and all eligibility taken from him. He does not deserve to be in a uniform, on scholorship for any team! I have lost all respect for the Cincy coach…that’s BS to go a say what he did and then have Yates on the team still.

    Neither program has control of their players, neither coach! Total shame for the both programs! Unreal…suspended for a bunch of cupcakes! Guess he’ll be back punching and kicking once the league starts though!

    If I was the coach…I’d remove those players and hold a tryout for walk ons! Football supports the sports programs, not UC basketball!



  13. Mikexuk
    9:30 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    #4, Tu deserves to be suspended for talking trash to the other team? Thats a joke right? UC started the trash talking before the game started with their comments to the media and he was only giving them a taste of their own medicine after Xavier owned UC all day. UC is and always will be a bunch of thugs and Mick Cronin only fosters that environment by basically rewarding Gates by not kicking him off the team. Gates will be in jail within the next 5 years for some other offense. Typical UC player.



  14. Nawlij
    9:30 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    The suspension is ridiculous. Shoulda been 10-15 games, at least. I guess the NCAA thinks that unwittingly taking a over the counter supplement is more egregious than causing a brawl then sucker punching some one and the hiding behind the coaches like a little bitch afterwards



  15. Kingscuba89
    9:30 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    Agree with 10… How is that possible? There are police officers there watching the whole thing. They should of been put in cuffs. And that punishment is a joke. With the comments made after the game it was pretty clear that the NCAA should of cracked down on both programs but instead they look the other way. Wow



  16. Steve Fitts
    9:39 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    As intense as the UK and U of L rivalry is, I can’t imagine a brawl of this sort taking place. The UK – U of L rivalry is intense, but we generally confine our blows to the verbal variety, and for that we deserve some credit I believe.



  17. Legarrette Blount
    9:40 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    This is some bull&*$# ! 6 Games!



  18. Culver
    9:44 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    #13 for Cincy, one of the players seen stomping Frease while he was on the ground, isn’t even an American citizen. His sorry ass is from Dakar, Senegal. Why in the hell is the taxpayer paying to import these “gangstas”…don’t we have enough roaming our streets as it is! And what if Gates had landed that punch on Frease’s temple, resulting in brain damage or even death, than what? A 10 game suspension??? This is all a freaking joke, the NCAA is a joke! If any of us had been caught fighting in the stands like that, our asses would of been arrested, booked, and charged!



  19. enough already
    9:47 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    OK, let’s get together on this and buy Kenny Frease front row tickets to the first few games abck for Gates, think we might get in his head… just wondering when it might come.



  20. C-A-T-S Cats Cats Cats
    9:47 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    Can’t the NCAA add more games if they see fit? I believe that these suspensions were handed down from the teams themselves and the NCAA can still have a say in the suspensions. Hopefully they add on some more games to all parties involved. No excuse for that behavior from anybody and especially not a student-athlete that is supposed to represent your university.



  21. BBN
    9:48 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    Gates deserves to be suspended for the season and charged with assault.



  22. philly cat
    9:52 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    the most ridiculous is Holloway. he started most of it and continued his nonsense in the press conference. 1 game for that?



  23. JJ
    9:52 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    Wow…



  24. Danny
    9:55 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    If these were UK players, they would be calling for their heads. And rightly so!



  25. Culver
    10:01 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    But I have to admit, I would like to see Cincy sneak into the NCAA tourny as like a 12 seed, matched up with Xavier as a 5 seed. Just imagine…the refs in bullet proof vests, bullet proof glass placed to protect the fans, players packing their favorite piece. Would be ghetto ball at it’s finest!



  26. UK FAN
    10:05 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    Cincy coached had a good talk but nothing to back it up. When everything settled down his job/wins is more important than kicking off the best player. All that talk about kicking people off the team, not representing the University ect. and suspends the kid up to the Big East game lol.



  27. Stallings'Baldspot
    10:06 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    This is a joke. The guy that landed the sucker punch should be charged, or at minimum kicked off the team. If I went to UC I would be extremely embarrassed right now.



  28. uklaw95
    10:08 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    I agree with Mikexuk. If UC can’t take trash talking when they are getting their rearends kicked, then they should be keeping their mouths shut before the game. They got handled and didn’t like hearing about it from XU.



  29. Hold on a sec...
    10:08 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    Correct me if I’m wrong here, but isn’t the NCAA rule that any player who leaves the bench and steps on to the court for any reason during the game automatically suspended? By that definition, wouldn’t all of these guys be suspended???



  30. Blueburg
    10:11 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    Hopefully nothin like this ever happens at UK.



  31. Truth
    10:26 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    30) If it did, Cal would take no action. A Memphis player clocked his gf in the face and played the next game.



  32. uktroy
    10:39 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    Both teams have thugs. Tu for X is still on the team from a incident this summer. And a coach is missing off the squad. I’ll let you guys find out what happen there. Cris Mack is a joke and so is Mick. Mick better get in front of this one because his time is short.



  33. He Hate Me
    10:41 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    #13 – You aren’t biased at all. The starters shouldn’t have even been on the floor, they were up 23 points with only seconds left. I don’t have ties to either team, but Chris Mack has done nothing except let his players go to press row and talk about how they are “gangstas”.



  34. Boom baby
    11:31 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    If this was Kentucky players, then you can bet your a** that they get kicked- by the NCAA. what trash.



  35. Rusty Humphries
    11:32 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    Good job Ge-Lawn (dumbest name ever) Guyn, way to represent the state of ky your piece of crap. You embarrassed everyone.



  36. Tblev12
    11:42 pm December 11, 2011 Permalink

    Just goes to show the standards of which cincy an xavier hold their kids accountable. How can you have these thugs still represent the university. A chicken shit suspension. I hope that the two cincy thugs that were involved blow there knees out on their first game back. Both of them!



  37. jacocat
    12:10 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    what would anyone expect from cronin? after all he is pitino trained!!



  38. kingrex
    12:10 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    The players involved in this are absolute trash. I thought nothing could be worse than the actual brawl until that ludicrous press conference by Xavier! Good God, help us all! That is exactly the kind of attitude I do not want at Kentucky, ever. It was pathetic. I think every player involved should have had much larger suspensions. I think you would only make the outcome worse if you threw anyone out of the program, so I am not in favor of that given these are just kids, but 6 games??? I want Kentucky to always be above this kind of behavior.



  39. LeGarrett Blount
    12:23 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    Those suspensions are weak



  40. tennessee wildcat
    12:54 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    Matt,

    If you could respond about Kenny Frease’s legal rights here, it would be appreciated. I think that Yates should be charged for assault for how he hit Frease and how everything happened. Is there a different rule for games versus outside of sporting events? Just wondering. Go Cats!



  41. Yancy Gates' right fist
    12:59 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    Terrance Jones is a fake hard guy. He talks more than anyone in basketball and there is no way he could back that up. Tu Holloway is just as bad as Gates, an all american should have more class than to jaw at walk ons and assistant coaches on the bench. He didnt need to talk trash to make a point, the way he played did. Quit feeding into the ESPN propaganda, XU is just as guilty as UC in this case. And before you judge the players of UC take a look at how Boogie acted as a freshman.



  42. JPhelps
    1:00 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    I live up here… Went to UC for grad school, so they are inherently my #2 team a good distance behind the Cats… All that said, what Gates did was freaking criminal and he deserves to be suspended the rest of the season LaGarrett Blount style.

    Tu Holloway is a freaking punk though. Act like the All American you are idiot. Don’t get out there and run your freaking mouth, get out there, hang thirty and laugh about it in the press conference! I guess you can’t take the hood out da kid. That’s why he’ll wash out of the NBA faster than Randolph Morris. Guy doesn’t have a head on his shoulders.



  43. JPhelps
    1:00 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    I live up here… Went to UC for grad school, so they are inherently my #2 team a good distance behind the Cats… All that said, what Gates did was freaking criminal and he deserves to be suspended the rest of the season LaGarrett Blount style.

    Tu Holloway is a freaking punk though. Act like the All American you are idiot. Don’t get out there and run your freaking mouth, get out there, hang thirty and laugh about it in the press conference! I guess you can’t take the hood out da kid. That’s why he’ll wash out of the NBA faster than Randolph Morris. Guy doesn’t have a head on his shoulders.



  44. The_Referees
    1:56 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    We could have prevented this by calling 1-2 technicals during the game. We let it get out of control

    Signed,
    The Referees



  45. Helvete
    6:20 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    This is sad and unacceptable. In UFC 113 Paul Dailey sucker punched Josh Koscheck after the fight and was banned from ever fighting in the UFC again. That is a sport where you expect someone to punch you and expect to get hurt, but due to the unprofessionalism and unsportsmanlike conduct the UFC did the right thing. It looks like these two universities could learn a thing from the UFC. I hope that NCAA steps in and does something about this.



  46. Dee
    6:50 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    What’s a joke…is Xavier’s guys getting nothing….THAT’s the JOKE….TU and Lyons need 10-15 game suspension if not kicked out….



  47. James
    7:07 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    This is ridiculous if they want to be gangsters let them be gangsters back in the hood. Kick them off the team and make them realize how lucky they are to be playing college basketball. I expect attitudes like that from cinci but not Xavier. That was a bull shit punishment.



  48. PUNT PUNT
    7:39 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    Happens every night in any hockey rink on the planet……not saying it is OK…but fights break out!



  49. William Braskey
    8:11 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    The best way to handle this if you are Xavier, is have Kenny Freese press assault charges against Gates.



  50. all the other kids
    8:21 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    I can’t figure why Frease wouldn’t go get some of Gates, after he got back up? I would. He might kick my butt, but he would get a little something for his trouble. Also, as has been mentioned, do the laws not apply at sporting events? Could a player shoot another player, and just get a suspension? I don’t get it.



  51. Beas
    8:30 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    #42, very similar to the Blount sucker punch. Instead of grabbing his guys and being a veteran,leader,the bigman showed himself to be a punk. Blount lost over 90% of his season. I really thought this guy would get hit with somewhere between 12-15 games minimum. Cronin’s words ring very hollow now!



  52. NCAAisaJOKE
    9:06 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    Brittney Griner gets 2 games for a sucker punch that breaks a girl’s nose, Gates gets six for his sucker punch, and Enes gets banned for getting a tutor paid for?



  53. UKRULZ
    10:33 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    Suspension is a joke, so were Cronin’s comments. Tha’s jsut him, you have to know what you are dealing with, with Mick, watching Murray State when he was here, I am not surprised. He doesn’t recuit beta club members…. pretty much sums it up for me.



  54. Scott County
    10:48 am December 12, 2011 Permalink

    Another point to the UC/Xavier brawl is that #14 G. Guyn who started the brawl by and got pushed to the ground first, Is a Kentucky product who finished up High School at Scott County after his freshmam year at Henry Clay!



  55. JEREMY
    12:11 pm December 12, 2011 Permalink

    COULD YOU IMAGINE THE UPROAR IF BOGGIE DID THIS..? THEY WOULD SUSPEND HIM FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON AND IT WOULD BE EVERYWHERE ON ESPN…



  56. Offended_Fan
    12:48 pm December 12, 2011 Permalink

    I’m still just as ticked off about the post-presser where Xavier’s crew was bragging about being gangsters and thugs. That’s why I don’t follow the NBA. To think that I still find entertainment in this sport… I honestly think Yates and the kicker deserve overnight stay in the local jail and kicked out of the university. If you or I or anyone else kicked a man in the face while representing our employers… can you imagine.



  57. MERCERnary
    4:42 pm December 12, 2011 Permalink

    If you can’t beat them beat them.



  58. Lance McAlister
    4:50 pm December 12, 2011 Permalink

    how ’bout my Hoosiers? “Boys, gonna run the picket fence…don’t get caught watching the paint dry”