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Saturday Afternoon Debate: Prayer In Sports

Since the beginning of time – no matter how you believe that beginning came about – sports and religion have been married together in a considerably less controversial marriage than religion and politics.  Here in Kentucky, the three have been thrust together in the same room and let’s just say things are getting a little awkward. 

If you haven’t been brought up to date on the whole Bell County football prayer thing, you can read it here.  Essentially, what’s being reported is that Department of Education told Bell County High School that holding a prayer over the public address system was unconstitutional and needed to stop.  Of course, that then sparked the political campaign nerd fight between a challenger and an incumbent, but we don’t care about that.  This is a sports site!

However, that doesn’t mean we can’t get into a little high-level intelligent discussion of our own here.  Do you have an issue with organized prayer at sporting events?  The Bell County prayer is probably a little less typical of what you find at most schools, but I never had a coach that didn’t bring us together in the locker room for prayer before a game.  If you didn’t want to participate, you didn’t.  No harm.  It’s a tradition that even makes it’s way up to the professional levels.  But is it wrong?  Debate below.

And do it politely!!!!!!!!

Article written by Thomas Beisner

272 Comments for Saturday Afternoon Debate: Prayer In Sports



  1. El Cormanyo
    3:34 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Hahaha! “high-level intelligent discussion” devolves into bitter argument in fewer than 50 comments or this isn’t an internet comments section.



  2. Jacob
    3:34 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Screw a debate…. I’m First



  3. Jacob
    3:35 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Nevermind 🙁



  4. JRobtmfht
    3:36 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Yep, it’s wrong for any coach to assume it’s alright and just do it, but it’s full-on illegal to do what Boyle county was doing.



  5. Nelson
    3:39 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    So I guess holding a prayer before NASCAR races is unconstitutional also?



  6. mlvei
    3:41 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Nascar events not supported by public funding



  7. Helvete
    3:42 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I personally don’t have a problem with it so long as I am not forced to participate. I didn’t play sports in high school, but if I had I wouldn’t have taken part in any prayers and would have walked directly off of any team that wanted to force me to take part in any prayer.



  8. JBR
    3:45 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    It is funny how all the tea partiers and other neocons whine about the constitution of our country, but then are ok to break it if they don’t agree with something…or want to change it entirely. Follow the freakin’ rules, and do what you are supposed to do. If you are so weak and insecure about your beliefs that you have to pimp them on everyone else all the time, then how great are they? Keep religion at home and church. Our team prayed before every game, and I hated it. Back in those days, you couldn’t argue it either, because anyone who disagreed with religion in our “alleged” free country were outcast. I thought it was so stupid, because I wasn’t particularly religious, but also because I worked my butt off all week in practice to go out and perform…that was on me, no god had anything to do with it.



  9. shadowboxer
    3:47 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    5 – Are NASCAR races funded with tax dollars? Nope. That being said, I don’t care about the prayer thing. I don’t do it myself, but it is as much a cultural issue as it is a religious one. People just need to stop being so thin skinned.



  10. Slick willie
    3:47 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    The moral decay of a once great nation continues.



  11. CouchCat
    3:47 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    What’s wrong is how sensitive people are today. Whatever you do can and will offend someone. People need to toughen up and just deal with it. I have to do alot of things I dont want to do and my wife wants to do. I just do it and vice versa. There is give and take in everything.



  12. Barry Obamaer
    3:50 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    You all are waste’n time praying to that ‘god’ anyway… Praise be to Allah.



  13. john
    3:52 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    i will be praying for those “lost” people saying that prayer isnt the right thing to do. my God be with you



  14. Jesus is Lord
    3:57 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    If people want to pray, they should have the right. And if those in attendance don’t want to pray with the, they can just sit there and worship satan until the prayer is over.

    JESUS IS LORD!!!!!!



  15. SexnNursinHomes
    4:03 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I alway pray to satan for the other team to lose.



  16. Billy Gillispie
    4:03 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I pray for anybody praying for me!



  17. JPhelps
    4:04 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    8. God blessed you with the ability to do that stuff man. With the opportunity. I can see you clearly take that for granted with you me first attitude. Feeling is mutual though. When I’m in a group of atheists and non-religious people out to eat, I’m treated as an outcast too if I decide to pray. Can’t take any high road chief! You guys are just as bad!



  18. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    4:06 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    The problem isn’t “having to listen” to the prayer. The problem is that school dollars are being used to practice a religion. Just leave it be and pray to yourselves. That’s your right, as guaranteed by the US Constitution. Doesn’t matter whether 99.9% of the county is Christian (which it probably is).



  19. bung
    4:06 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    It figures an out of state group from Wisconsin filed a complaint and started this. The first amendment doesnt allow the government to establish a National religion or to stop anyone from freely practicing their own, not to mention freedom of speech and assembly. Pray on.



  20. George Washington
    4:07 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.



  21. yitbos
    4:09 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    So…from what it sounds like, no one in Bell County complained, but a group from Wisconsin did? Really? What the hell should people in Bell county give two craps about what someone in Wisconsin thinks is wrong?



  22. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    4:10 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (19) Figures that a bunch of Britons and Americans would come in and tell us how to run our Reich, huh?



  23. JL
    4:11 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    This is yet another case of the federal govt overstepping their bounds. First off, having read the actual Constitution in the National Archives Rotunda, separation of church and state ISN’T mentioned in the Constitution. The Constitution states that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. (The phrase separation of church and state was derived from a letter T. Jefferson sent to a Baptist society assuring them that the govt would not interfere w/ religious activities.)

    The Bell Co. debacle is another case of the feds (and the Anti-Civil Liberty Union) sticking their noses where they’re not needed. If you’re playing football, you oughtta be prayed up before you hit the gridiron..
    #11 is right!



  24. Beetle bum
    4:11 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    The keep religion at home and church belief is a religion. Don’t force your religion on me, either. Nothing wrong with voluntary prayer before and after sports, even at a publicly funded school. Government cannot restrict the free expression of religion.



  25. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    4:14 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    No one is saying “don’t practice your religion”. They’re saying don’t use the school in order to broadcast your religion. Big difference.



  26. Beetle bum
    4:16 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Someone from Bell must be involved with the lawsuit, if one has been filed. If not, how does a groups from Wisconsin have standing?



  27. Evan
    4:17 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    So is the prayer offered at a Presidential inauguration unconstitutional? Or what about prayers offered before Congressional sessions? Both of those are publicly funded events.



  28. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    4:18 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (23) When have you ever heard of the ACLU coming into a church and telling someone to stop praying?



  29. Jesusismyimaginaryfriend
    4:20 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    11- that’s strange, I’m usually a big fan of what your wife wants to do. POW!



  30. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    4:22 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (15) Is this god’s name…..Aphrodite?



  31. Patriot
    4:23 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Say the pledge of allegiance, this country was built under god. Every individual has the right to worship whichever god they so choose, but do not have the right to change a country’s basic principals. If you have a problem with prayer don’t participate, if you feel so strongly about not having prayer there are plenty of other country’s out there PICK ONE!!!!!!



  32. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    4:24 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (31) So when there’s a disagreement between members of a democracy, one side has to move out?



  33. tdogg4033011
    4:25 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    4) what was Boyle County doing??



  34. Usernametaken
    4:26 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I never got the praying to win at sports thing. Of all the troubles in life and the world, winning a sports game is what we ask divine intervention for? That being said, if you want to pray for a win, don’t cram down it other people’s throats in the process.



  35. one two
    4:28 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    If everyone should have to sit and listen to a christian prayer before a game then those same people should not be upset when someone else says “hail satan” or GOD damn. just saying



  36. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    4:28 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (31) You do realize that “Under God” replaced “E Pluribus Unum” during the height of the Cold War, right? Founding Fathers never put “God”, “Creator”, or anything else in the Constitution for a reason.



  37. schwing
    4:28 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    what’s the problem? we’ve always been allowed to pray to buddha and allah before sporting events in this country. wait, that’s not right? oh…



  38. Mr Schwump
    4:30 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    UK better pray extra hard when playing UF, LSU, etc.



  39. CouchCat
    4:32 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    #29. Nice!!!! Funny



  40. VoiceOfReason
    4:32 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    The problem it that people have taken the Constitution WAY out of context. It says the government cannot establish a religion. Saying a prayer does not establish a state-funded religion. It’s a prayer. There are prayers that take place in Congress, but that doesn’t mean they have set up another Church of England, which was what the Constitution was trying to guard against. People have misused the Constitution and warped it by saying there can be no display of faith associated with the government. That is ignorant and twisted the original meaning of the document.



  41. RoeVWade
    4:33 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Lets discuss abortion next.



  42. VoiceOfReason
    4:33 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    The problem is that people have taken the Constitution WAY out of context. It says the government cannot establish a religion. Saying a prayer does not establish a state-funded religion. It’s a prayer. There are prayers that take place in Congress, but that doesn’t mean they have set up another Church of England, which was what the Constitution was trying to guard against. People have misused the Constitution and warped it by saying there can be no display of faith associated with the government. That is ignorant and twisting the original meaning of the document.



  43. WestKyCatsFan
    4:34 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    We do live in a free country…at least for now anyway. If a coach chooses to lead his team in prayer, those that want to participate can and those that do not want to don’t have to; same goes with the fans before a ballgame. If players or fans are being hadcuffed or forced into participating in a prayer or a particular faith, then there might be a problem and people’s freedoms would be in question. However, history shows that many of our country’s founding fathers put great importance on their faith and in turn, prayed often while assembled.



  44. UKwayne
    4:36 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    And whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, so that they may be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward. But whenever you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.” [Mt. 6:5-6]

    Enough said !!!!



  45. SexnNursinHomes
    4:36 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    30- actually, yes. how did you know? hell hath no fury for a women scorned.



  46. pizzinmneoff
    4:37 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    If it was muslum prayer time , no one would say shit



  47. bigbluedude
    4:37 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    good for the state! keep the putrid religeon out of schools. seperation of church and state!



  48. SexnNursinHomes
    4:39 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    woman, oops



  49. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    4:40 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (43) Which founding fathers? Washington? Nope; he purposefully left church services before communion was served (for the last 20 or 30 years of his life). Franklin? Not even close; full-blown atheist. Jefferson? Nope, he was a deist even if you’re being generous; he even re-wrote the Gospels in order to show a consistent message that Jesus was not divine (you can check it out at your local library).

    It’s revisionist history to say that this nation was founded by a bunch of Huckabees and Dobsons. They were moral men, raised in church, who believed that a secular government should be protecting the liberty of the people, no matter what religion those people were members of.

    And how are we justifying our current actions based upon our founding fathers’ conducts? Many of them owned slaves; that doesn’t mean our country should still own slaves today, too.



  50. ukfastkat
    4:40 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I love the looking up at the sky when a player hits a home run, scores a TD, etc.
    Question is, where is the Big Guy up there when the same players strike out with the bases loaded or fumble the ball?
    I am a proud American who believes anyone can believe anything they want as long as no harm is done.
    Let ’em pray all they want.
    Believing some spirit in the sky is going to influence a sporting event in ANY way is probably harmless but equally absurd.



  51. Mike Ranney
    4:41 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    This whole argument over prayer seems like such an asinine thing to me. Always has, always will. When it comes right down to it, not being able to have a prayer is as much an affront to me as praying is to you. When i say you, i mean someone who is against public prayer. That person wants to push their beliefs on me in the same way that they say i’m doing to them. Why should one be different than the other? Their should be nothing wrong with allowing those who wish to pray to do so and those who don’t to simply do whatever it is they would like to do. I don’t know why some people want to say theirs is the only way to do things. In other words, you go your way and i’ll go mine, and never the twain shall meet.



  52. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    4:43 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (44) POST OF THE THREAD



  53. UKwayne
    4:46 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    51. Simple question. Why would you want to prayer in public ? That’s supposed to be a humble plea from you to God. There’s nothing humble about a loud speaker. See comment 44



  54. go cats
    4:49 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    As a strong believer in the separation of church and state, I do not think any public high school teams should be praying together, unless it is organized and led by the kids themselves. Coaches can use the time to pee before the game starts. As for private schools, of course they should be able to pray.



  55. MacGruber
    4:50 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    There are no atheist in fox holes. When at death’s door we will all pray for salvation.



  56. bung
    4:51 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    22) are you saying anyone that doesnt agree with you is like a member of the 3rd Reich?



  57. Holden McGroin
    4:52 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    nutt’n like a religion or politics post to stir up the sleepy masses on saturday, huh Beezy?



  58. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    4:53 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (55) Then you’re a coward if you trade in your convictions at the last minute because of fear. I’m sure any G/god would be thoroughly convinced by a deathbed recantation.



  59. MacGruber
    4:54 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    55. Classic MacGruber



  60. kycatman
    4:54 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    #31 & #43 says it all!!!!!!!! Go God and Go Cats!!



  61. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    4:56 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (56) No. I was responding to a poster who was saying that a Wisconsin group had no reason to be interfering in Bell County issues. I was trying to illustrate that sometimes minorities need protection from the majority, and many times that protection must be provided by outside groups.



  62. USA
    4:56 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    All these fools who think this is wrong, is exactly what’s wrong with our country today. You have to be pampered about everything. This has always been a part of sports and I can guarantee that every one of our fathers who played sports did it. They were just men and didn’t bitch and moan about everything, even if they didn’t agree. They are not forcing kids to do anything, I’m sure if they don’t want to take part they aren’t benched. Quit whining about everything in life and just sack up and be a man.



  63. Heavypettinginnursinghomes
    4:57 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    58. “Lighten up Francis”



  64. VoiceOfReason
    4:59 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    #44- That is only one passage on prayer from the Bible. There are many other examples of people mutually praying. The disciples met in the upper room and “continued with one accord in prayer.” That’s just one example.



  65. Tokyo now Tampa Satchel
    5:00 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    @31- “under god” was added to the Pledge of Allegiance during the 1950’s “red scare”, as a way to ward off communists. It was a purely political move.



  66. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    5:02 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (62) Would I ever file a lawsuit against the school? No, because I don’t care enough about it. However, I won’t stand by and say I’m “neutral” just because someone else is doing the litigation. What the school was doing has been prohibited via multiple rulings at multiple levels of the US justice system, all the way up to the Supreme Court. See: Santa Fe School District vs Jane Doe (2000).



  67. bung
    5:03 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Actually we are currently in a situation where the majority needs protection from some radical minorities that cant seem to read the 1st amendment correctly.



  68. Slick Rick
    5:04 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I was at a game last night and they played acdc music over the pa. How do it get this stopped?



  69. ukfastkat
    5:05 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    No matter which side on is on, it is undeniable that religion is an integral part of every athletic organization.
    Webb Simpson couldn’t wait to witness after his first PGA win last week. Don’t know where his God was during the defeats. He was praying then, too, and readily admitted it. That should be his business, not ours, and bless him for what he believes.
    Most of UK’s BB players are either religious or very religious as are so many athletes.
    You want Shabazz Muhammud? Think about his name, folks.
    Live and let live.
    Cal is a devout Catholic.
    Past players like Sheppard and Mills are basically preachers.
    Do you really care about their personal beliefs?
    We should care about their overall character, their athletic ability (whether we think it is “God-given” or not) and their contributions to their team, our university and to their family and friends.
    The loudspeaker is a bad idea just as a loudspeaker from an non-believing or even competing religious group would be a bad idea.
    Keep your prayers,and the beliefs you are entitled to, to yourself, your team behind closed doors, your family, friends and church members.
    Amen.



  70. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    5:05 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (67) So a public institution leading religious rituals of only one religion is not an effort to establish a State religion? Enlighten me, please.



  71. Matt
    5:06 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Free country pray when and where you want too. If people don’t like it (once again free country) they do not have to take part in it.



  72. dubbin
    5:10 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    46. If you were forced to pray a Muslim prayer or listen to a Muslim prayer, a lot would be said.
    While none of the comments I have read are against prayer, it does seem to go against the views of many that you pray in a group because of tradition or it seems the thing to do before a game etc. Prayer, as an individual, or as a group should be heartfelt and sincere.



  73. bung
    5:11 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Having l person say a prayer at a high school football game seems to fall somewhat short of the Federal government establishing a national religion. See 1st amendment for details.



  74. Hell is Real
    5:14 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Amy Peabody is the attorney for the KY. Dept. of Education. In my opinion, Amy Peabody is an antichristian who’s trying to make some noise with her little attorney title. I cannot wait until JESUS CHRIST unleashes His wrath on all non-believers in the end. I will be smiling from ear to ear. We love these people and pray for them, but their stupidity makes me want to see the end come even sooner.

    PS: If they stop the prayers over the PA System, I encourage all of them to pray as a group anyways. Everybody has the right to pray, don’t let this goofy attorney stop you.



  75. UKwayne
    5:14 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    64. Don’t be a hypocrite and parse the words. The passage is either right or wrong. Disciples praying in a room (most likely silent and humble) is not the equal of praying over a loud speaker. That type of prayer is strictly for show.



  76. go cats
    5:16 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (62): What if I have a vagina?



  77. UKNOWWHO
    5:17 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Jeez (an acronym), this sure brings em out of the bushes.



  78. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    5:18 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    So when a school in Bullitt Couty has a Muslim imam, and only a Muslim imam, lead a prayer to Allah over the loudspeaker before every game, no one will have a problem with it? I mean, it’s not really establishing a religion or anything. If you don’t want that to happen, they you’re just hypersensitive and should go move to Canada or some place like that. Go read the 1st Amendment. Nothing about leading prayers to Allah before football games.



  79. dubbin
    5:20 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    74. Spoken like a true Christian. Wow. The statement that you will be smiling from ear to ear when Jesus brings his wrath on non believers, well, isn’t that statement very un Christ like.



  80. Lou eaton
    5:21 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Other than the loud speaker part, I doubt the founding fathers would object based upon the history and role prayer has played in our first 200 years.



  81. TaxPayer
    5:21 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I don’t have time to argue about prayer in school, I need to go to my second job so I can support your unemployed/welfare sucking asses’ right to disagree with no prayer.



  82. Jackie Darrell Jacbos
    5:21 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I hope this ordeal leads EVERY CHRISTIAN in America to bow their heads before the tip off or kickoff and pray until they feel like they’re done. Not for show, but to prove to this antichristian America that we still serve the one and only soverign GOD of this universe. If everyone who said they were Christian actually stood up for Christ, then these 1% minorities wouldn’t stand a chance. Wake up Christians!! Jesus died for you so live for Him.



  83. It's simple
    5:25 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    School organized prayer is unconstitutional. Student organized prayer is perfectly fine as long as others are not forced to participate. Simple as that



  84. dubbin
    5:28 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    82. It seems to me that Jesus withstood a great deal without showing hatred. You managed to use his name as a threat to others. Obviously, you are not a fan of free will.



  85. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    5:29 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Q: Why did God make homosexuality a sin?
    A: Because his boyfriend thought it would be sooooooo hot



  86. Atheist
    5:30 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    82) actually- atheists and other non religious people make up more than 15% of the population. There are more atheists in the US than black people. I’ve read some demographic polls that estimate up to 35% of the US population are atheist/agnostic.



  87. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    5:32 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (83) No it’s not. Santa Fe School District vs Jane Doe (2000). US Supreme Court.



  88. Tim Loy
    5:36 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Unconstitutional?!?! Having Left wing liberal justices interpreting the constitution is unconstitutional. Hey Bell Co. folks stand up to anyone that tells you that you can’t do what you believe in! Even someone that makes bullish threats of lawsuits. I’ll be praying, out loud, for you.



  89. WestKyCatsFan
    5:36 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (49)The Pilgrims studied the Holy Bible on a daily basis. Patrick Henry, Noah Webster, Dr. Benjamin Rush, Daniel Webster were all quoted as supporting and complimenting the Holy Bible. John Quincy Adams called this country a “christian nation”. Thomas Jefferson played a major role in funding churches and missionaries. Just to name a few…



  90. bigbluemaniac19
    5:36 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    all you athiest ill say a lil prayer for you tonight, maybe you’ll find some sort of religon in your life instead of thinkin once you die thats it. my top 3 loves in life is god, family and friends. i dont go to church as much ias i should but i do know ill go heaven someday and see the loved ones i once lost and be able to spend all eternity with them an finally meet my maker. if these kids and coaches truly believe in the lord then let them keep on prayin, the others who dont wanna participate thats thier choice. the lord loves us all, i just hope most of society can take the time and love him back. AMEN



  91. Ruby
    5:37 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    82:

    Q: Why does Elton John have a moustache?
    A: So everybody won’t see his stretch marks. LMAO!!!!!!



  92. Ruby
    5:37 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    85:

    Q: Why does Elton John have a moustache?
    A: So everybody won’t see his stretch marks. LMAO!!!!!!



  93. VoiceOfReason
    5:39 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    UKwayne- I was just pointing out that the Bible does not say you only have to prayer in solitude behind closed doors. There are also examples of public prayer in the Bible. Look it up. You can’t take one verse in the Bible to prove a point. You have to look at it as a whole.



  94. HighLevelIntelligenDiscussion
    5:43 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    As long as the prayer doesn’t reference the Son of God, Jesus Christ, it should be allowed. Since all religions believe in a God of some sort. Stuff like this is what is leading to Civil War 2, oh yeah. Christians are tired of having athiest and muslims use their religion and laws against them when they do not even believe in Christ. Don’t tell me what I believe, don’t tell me when I can and cant pray. My Mossberg ensures that I will pray when I Like, not when you say I can. You dont like it, too bad, I dont care. I am a Christian, but I am not Jesus Christ. I will be judged as you will, but not by you. Go get your gay, muslim, pot smoking, welfare check receiving friends and Obama together and cry about it. Oh and Matt Jones too.



  95. VoiceOfReason
    5:50 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    #75-I’m not sure why you say I’m being a hypocrite. I was just pointing out that the Bible does not only include examples of praying in solitude but also in groups. There are also examples of public praying if you take the time to look it up. I’m still confused on being called a hypocrite for pointing out something. You can’t look at ONE verse in the Bible to prove a point. You have to look at the whole. I could take hundreds of verses by themselves and make them fit my beliefs. That’s not how it works.



  96. CAUKFAN
    5:50 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I can’t say it any better that 23. What the Constitution guarantees is that the state will not sponsor a religion. This is a free speech issue. It really annoys me that a very small group of people can impose their will through the courts or the majority who either like the tradition or don’t care one way or the other. Of course I would feel different if this country was Muslim and I had to put up with their call to prayer 4 times a day. But this country is predominantly Christian and prayer before public assemblies and sporting events is just as apple pie as singing the National Anthem. So like 82 says; stand up for your right to pray to God through Jesus Christ. Amen!



  97. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    5:53 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Q: What’s the difference between Jesus Christ and a portrait of Jesus Christ?
    A: It only take one nail to hang the portrait.



  98. Sammydog
    5:55 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    You are taking David Williams’ intent all too seriously. He could give a big rats a– about prayer anywhere. This is a purely political move on his part to try to rally the God Squad, much like his casino effort (I can and do gamble but you can’t). He is losing to a wimp and has to do something to rally the troops. Richie has been a bust so he is desperate.



  99. RidgeRunner
    5:58 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor…

    Dude, ya musta been salivating for a post like this, huh? Damn



  100. Da'truth
    5:59 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    See what happens when you get a president that has ‘Hussen’ in his name and prays to allah…



  101. RidgeRunner
    6:00 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    ahhhh men comes in at 100…



  102. VoiceOfReason
    6:01 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    #97- Awesome! And by “Awesome”, I mean lame.



  103. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    6:02 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Q: Whats the difference between Santa Claus and an omnipotent, omniscient, mysterious God?
    A: Kids eventually admit there’s no such thing as Santa.



  104. russ
    6:03 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    sooo…it is OK for students to organize prayers (which is great), but it is NOT OK for the adult in the room to be a good example? I see that as the larger problem. We’ve gutted the schools ability to do anything that is not PC to 5% of the students and leave the 95% without examples to follow. My most important teachers and coaches growing up were the adults that practiced their faith as part of who they were. God help us…and I hope my statement doesn’t offend anyone on the blog.



  105. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    6:04 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (102) So is having to listen to religious garbage any time I want to hear about our leaders’ plans for the economy and two wars.



  106. kydon
    6:07 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I’m offended that all of you are offended. Everyone takes themselves too seriously. I don’t give a damn what any of you think. If you want to pray-pray and if you don’t , shut up and let those that want to do it!



  107. RidgeRunner
    6:12 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    106…LOL. Man, we gotta get that into a federal & state law…stated just like that my friend.

    It is amazing what “red-buttons” some folks have that are ready to unleash comment after comment after…-well ya get the picture. unbelievable. Oh well, such is life in this day & time for sure.



  108. Heavypettinginnursinghomes
    6:12 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    97…I was taught God forgives everyone, for your sake I hope that is so.



  109. Nurd83
    6:13 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    #55 I am a veteran of OEF and OIF. I am also an Atheist. Ever heard of MAAF? Military Atheist And Freethinkers? Christianity is nothing more than ancient Egyptian allegory. Do you know how many deities before Christ died on a cross, was born on Dec 25, was born of a virgin, died and rose on the third day, etc? Several. More than ten. Jesus is a hybrid of beliefs, nothing more, nothing less. A fictitious sky monster. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61ReohCr35U

    After reading these comments, I am so glad I moved far, far away from Kentucky.



  110. kyhank
    6:13 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    #8 is the lowest form of life, A limp dick with an ax to grind to many of you around, you are killing this country !!



  111. VoiceOfReason
    6:14 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    105- Here is the thing many people don’t understand. People who have faith in God don’t see that as a religion. It is not a religion to me. It is my worldview and a part of my everyday life. I don’t pull it out on Sundays or when I pray. It is a part of every decision I make daily. It’s not my religion.

    But I understand your frustration with it. Unfortunately, many Christians, like some who have commented on here, would like to see atheists or agnostics “burn in hell” because of their disbelief. That is sad. Christians have given themselves a bad reputation over the years, especially recently. Unfortunately, those bad things are the things you hear about on the news because it sells and is controversial. But there are many more great things going on in the church, especially from the young generations. They understand that Christianity isn’t about telling others what they are against, but what they are for. I hope you cross paths with more of those kind of Christians in the future.



  112. swicat
    6:14 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    we live in a democratic nation. take a vote, we live in a free country where supposedly democracy rules. if the majority wants to pray, then pray. if the majority does’nt want to pray, then don’t. this is a simple solution our forefathers came up with. before every game take a vote.



  113. Hoss
    6:16 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    … and this is why religion sucks. Backwards ass people looking to the sky for answers instead of working with fellow man to solve real-world issues.

    And instead of working with fellow man, they want to bitch about their right to talk to the clouds.

    Be proud, simpletons, and leave me your car keys for after the rapture.



  114. MacGruber
    6:16 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    105 U got the Debil in ya Bobby!



  115. kyhank
    6:18 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    #8 is a l-mp dick with an ax to grind, people like you make me sick, you are killing this country,but you lose, HAHA



  116. MacGruber
    6:18 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Dang! 113 got the Debil too.



  117. RidgeRunner
    6:19 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Umm….will everyone stand & Nurd 83 will lead us in grace before we partake… oops, sorry.



  118. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    6:19 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (112) The rule of the majority cannot infringe the rights of the minority, though. If you were correct, then we’d still have slaves.



  119. Hoss
    6:24 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    116- The ‘debil’ has your religion by the balls. Fastest dying religion in the world right now. Ask any Cathol. They are drying up at a rate of 2k parishes/year. Ask yourself why, then read back over these comments… mystery solved. You people and your bible suck and are holding back the advancement of the human race.

    Have a nice day.



  120. RidgeRunner
    6:24 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Group hug time? or….

    Oh nevermind….leaving now, Go Big Blue and…umm…eh…..bye.



  121. RidgeRunner
    6:27 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Oh & beis… yeah, ya know what you were doin’ MUHAHAHA ya rascal you!



  122. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    6:28 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    If the Bible is the moral and legal foundation of our country, then why is child abuse illegal? Why is slavery illegal? Why is domestic violence illegal? Why is genocide illegal? Why are women in Congress? All of these things are condoned and even commanded by your omnipotent, omniscient, and everlasting God. Or is he just fickle and we have to guess what he’s thinking at any given time? Maybe he’s suddenly changed his mind about communion just like he suddenly changed his mind about genocidal cleansing of Palestine before your fictional invasion of Canaan?



  123. MacGruber
    6:34 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    119 You take yourself way to serious. Smile and go to a happy place. 🙂



  124. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    6:34 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    “All else being equal:
    Good people will do good things,
    Bad people will do bad things.
    For good people to do bad things, though?
    Well, that requires religion.”
    -Steven Weinberg



  125. no1catfan
    6:34 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    It’s a sad day when we as people of a free nation can’t talk to God or any other religous figure for a fear of being arrested for something this country was founded on. If people are offended oh well. I see things everyday that I am offended by but do I cry about it, NO. Turn your head close your eye’s put your finger in your ears. It dosen’t last long any way. Stop all the childish crying and grow up.



  126. rolly
    6:35 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    This discussion thread would be really fascinating if posters had to incude their age and level of education.



  127. MacGruber
    6:37 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    26 yrs, Genecologist



  128. Buzzer Beater
    6:38 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    68) good one! LMBO!



  129. dots
    6:38 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    14) we can all tell you’re a christian with a closed mind. not all non-christians worship satan. you prove your idiocy well here. from a non-religious standpoint, i say let them pray!



  130. Hoss
    6:40 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    126- what would make it really interesting would be to post IQ’s of both sides of the argument. My money is on educated atheist guy over hilljack parishioner… every single time.



  131. RidgeRunner
    6:41 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    127…that’s a long time lookin’ up women’s…..oh………..I thought ya meant. Dang it.



  132. MacGruber
    6:41 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I meant Gynecologist, I bet no one believes me now.



  133. RidgeRunner
    6:43 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    130…umless your on a raft on a river in Georgia and ya hear banjo music. I’ll take the hilljack.

    Just sayin’



  134. RidgeRunner
    6:45 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    132…LOL



  135. Hoss
    6:47 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Ever wonder how only 1 out of 50 people you meet can actually understand and follow Shakespeare’s writings, yet every uneducated and toothless hillbilly you meet can quote bible verses and their meanings?

    You don’t find that the least bit odd?



  136. Hoss
    6:47 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I have had a change of heart, that stuff I said until now was just stupid! What was I thinking.



  137. Hoss
    6:49 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    It would take a Christian to steal someone else’s screen name in order to prop up their own point of view.

    Thank you for proving my point, 136.



  138. Not the theif
    6:51 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Ya 136, get a life.



  139. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    6:52 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Joke is on all of the radical Christians who think they’re always electing Christian officials, hiring Christian lawyers, going to Christian doctors, taking medications developed by Christian scientists, learning from Christian college professors……when in reality there are tens of millions of closet atheists (myself included) who continue to play along in real life simply to keep our families happy and to keep from being ostracized. Homosexuals, minorities, and ex-criminals are all more likely than an open atheist to be elected President. There are plenty of polls to back that up.



  140. CATS12WIN
    6:52 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE DEBATED —– SIMPLY TAKE A VOTE AND SEE IF ANYONE MINDS —– I THINK THAT IN THE END ONLY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE A C L U ARE REALLY THE ONLY ONES WHO ARE OFFENDED —– AFTER ALL DENYING EVERYONE THE RIGHT TO PRAYER SEEMS TO INFRINGE ON FREEDOM OF RELIGION —– WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL SOMEONE WHEN AND WHERE THEY CANNOT PRAY?? —– ARE THEY AFRAID SOMEONE MIGHT TURN OUT TO BE A GOOD PERSON?? IF SOMEONE DOES NOT WANT TO PRAY THEN THEY DO NOT HAVE TO—– NO ONE IS FORCING THEM TO!!! —



  141. Reality
    6:53 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    obama is taking us all to hell…



  142. Blue Genius
    6:55 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    It’s unconstitutional for a public school system to tell a school, or anyone, what is and is not consitutional. Liberals are so uneducated!



  143. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    6:56 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    We need more Jesus jokes in this thread. I mean, who cares if anyone is offended. I think it’s awesome.



  144. MacGruber
    6:56 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Let’s take a moment of silence to reflect on this thred. Bow your heads please.



  145. MacGruber
    6:56 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Let’s take a moment of silence to reflect on this thread. Bow your heads please.



  146. Hoss
    6:59 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    140- yes, we are all just as sure as sure can be that you would sit right there in your chair w/o word while they blasted a call to Allah over the PA before every game, right?

    You don’t want freedom of religion, you want freedom of YOUR religion. Again, this is why ALL religion sucks. It creates more bad than it does good.



  147. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    6:59 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (142) I lol’ed



  148. UKwayne
    7:04 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    141. How can a man take you to hell unless you’re a willing participant ? Oh, he made you sin and fall short…Weak-minded fool



  149. Duck Fuke
    7:06 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Churches don’t pay taxes, so they should have no place in institutions supported by taxes. I say tax the churches and religious groups, deficit solved. This is a buck of stupid people who want to pretend they are ” holier than thou” and that they are pure and chaste and they poop ice cream too. They are elitists at the end of the day except the competition here is “who can be more holy” . The fact of the matter is theses so called Croatians are sounding more and more like the religious extremists we are fighting in the near east. Look at places like Iran where there is no separation of church and state. I don’t want that here in this country. Hail Satan



  150. Hoss
    7:06 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    ^148- you voted for the man. I’d say that ends the debate on your weak mind as well, huh?



  151. rmhixon
    7:06 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    What is the debate?? Isn’t the 1st Amendment perfectly clear. Freedom to practice one’s religion openly a guaranteed right without infringement by the government. READ!!!!



  152. Duck Fuke
    7:07 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Churches don’t pay taxes, so they should have no place in institutions supported by taxes. I say tax the churches and religious groups, deficit solved. This is a buck of stupid people who want to pretend they are ” holier than thou” and that they are pure and chaste and they poop ice cream too. They are elitists at the end of the day except the competition here is “who can be more holy” . The fact of the matter is theses so called cristians are sounding more and more like the religious extremists we are fighting in the near east. Look at places like Iran where there is no separation of church and state. I don’t want that here in this country. Hail Satan



  153. Obama
    7:08 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    #148 – Acutally, #141 is right. My goal is to take this country to hell. And, lets cut out the insults, ya douch.

    (you’re one of those inter-web tough-guys, huh?)



  154. Hoss
    7:12 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    151- read 152.

    Well-put, 152.



  155. GOD
    7:15 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I’m praying for you all. Especially those of you that don’t like me and don’t like people that do like me. I’m praying for Obama, even though I know he is evil. I’m praying for Nancy and Harry too. I’m even praying for all the evil do’ers around the globe. Oh and I’m especially praying for ‘UKwayne.’



  156. keepinitrealsince1988
    7:16 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    no…just no. the truth is…nobody really knows what happens when we die. whether you base your beliefs on faith or science. can we all just take a moment tonight and step outside…clear our minds and realize the fact that we are on a freaking rock hurling through space in a ever expanding universe and none of your opinions really matter all that much…how can you people be so caught up and blindly follow without question a certain belief…and no..if i’m trying to enjoy a sporting event i don’t want any kind of religious message being broadcast over the loud speakers. thats just awkward and out of place…i just don’t get it…believe what you want…but leave the self-righteousness at home…for real.



  157. allah
    7:17 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    i’m a fraud, just like obama



  158. #156 really believes in God
    7:21 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    hahahahaha



  159. UKwayne
    7:22 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    93. You keep saying there are many examples of public prayer, does that mean they were correct in doing that ? I recall a public crucifixion also, guess those people were right by your thinking. Those instructions I quoted seem pretty clear.



  160. Roland
    7:27 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Prayers DO get answered. It has happened to me MORE than once. When they do, ya just fell like to say “Thank You”, over and over.



  161. allah
    7:29 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    ‘UKwayne’ … I appreciate your continued prayer towards me. Oh, and keep voting for Obama. And whatever you do, don’t tell your friends the truth about Obama, they will storm the gates of the White House and extract him.



  162. "Jamal" Vitale
    7:30 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I think your all AWESOME BABY!



  163. ACLU
    7:33 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    What a wonderful country we are turning this place into. No God. Gay marrage. muslim in the White House. Mexicans running free all across the fruited plain…



  164. reality
    7:34 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    KSR injects religion in the comments section = the hits just keep on coming … go capitalism



  165. evolution
    7:37 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    if evolution says man comes from apes, then how come there are still apes? huh?



  166. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    7:39 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (163) Freaking amazing



  167. willie
    7:41 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    If you don’t like to pray, then don’t. But don’t try to stop the other 98% of us that do…
    Just sit there and ignore it. Another example of the few trying to control the many.



  168. Hoss
    7:44 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    166- If the world is only 2000 years old, where did Jesus keep his dinosaur saddle?



  169. Hoss
    7:45 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    sorry, meant for #165.



  170. Roland
    7:45 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    if ya don’t like this mess in the USA, Why did you re-elect Bush? He was the one saying the economy was in the tank when Clinton was in office and he got elected and he made it true. Got re-elected and took us down more. Spend money on wars? Thats the republician way. Kill our kids and let the economy grow. I am a vet of 10 years.



  171. UKwayne
    7:47 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    161 you know who i voted for and to whom i pray ? sounds like witchcraft to me…tea party much ?



  172. Hoss
    7:48 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    167- 98%, huh? You didn’t happen to just make the percentage up off the top of your head, did ya? Of course you didn’t, you’re a Christian.

    Link, please?



  173. rolly
    7:48 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    #163 Thank god there are Mexicans on the fruited plain otherwise there’d be no one to pick it



  174. willie
    7:49 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    154 if you can’t spell any better than 152 then I’m not paying any attention to you either…
    And, NEAR EAST ? I thought it was the middle east. Uneducated and uninformed is no way to go through life . . .



  175. Stephen B
    7:52 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Could not help but think of something that happened in our county. We had a preacher write a letter to the editor talking about the music being played before the game started. So my question would be am I allowed to sue because I believe the wording of the rock or pop or whatever type of songs they play during a game conveys an anti-God theme?



  176. Mass Confusion
    7:53 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I’m what you get when white people co-op and corrupt african proverb and scripture to fit their political and personal needs.



  177. Hoss
    7:54 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Willie, I think you’ll find my grammar, spelling and diction to your liking. I am a Catholic school product, no less.



  178. Hoss
    7:58 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Well, I was a Cathol… then I started thinking.



  179. willie
    7:59 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Well, Little Joe, uh I mean Hoss. I will be honest. I did make it up the 98% because I believe most people do pray to God once in a while. And I believe they are the vast majority of Americans. By the way, I’m Catholic also. Does that make me Christian ? I like to think I treat people that way. I sure don’t ridicule you if you don’t believe in prayer.



  180. Dill Doe
    8:02 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    This – http://www.irreligion.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/d2GPJ.jpg

    As for the topic at hand, if you have the right to pray before a sporting event in my presence (which I find offensive since you’re impedeing on my beliefs), then I have the right to call you retarded assholes and suggest all of you should be locked away in the looney bin for talking to an imaginary person. If you retards want to keep praying to an invisible, make believe being in the sky then be my guest. I’ll live in reality where science is the ruling absolute, thank you very much. Too stupid to understand science? Try religion.



  181. willie
    8:07 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Yes, Little Joe, uh, I mean Hoss, I did make up that 98%. I’ll admit that. However, I base that number on what I believe. And that’s that MOST people in America still pray occasionally, and believe in God. I too am Catholic. Does that make me Christian ? I do try to treat others that way. But why do the few always try to dictate to the many ??



  182. JBR
    8:10 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I have a man crush on patpattersoniswalkingthruthatdoor. Great posts and jokes…kyhank, have fun at the trailer park tonight. Religion is doing more to ruin our society than anything else…just look at this post and self-righteous entitlement attitude of those “believers” (aka crutch-needing simpletons who cannot accept that they are mortal and will cease to exist at some point). What is funny is how much that christians hate extremist moslems. The reason is that while i think that extremist moslems are as crazy as the next guy, you have to respect their adherence to their “religion”. Christians are christians when its convenient or they need something. All religion is just as ridiculous as the next…and this thread proves it.



  183. willie
    8:14 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Dill Hole, 95% of Americans believe in God.
    88% worldwide believe in God.
    And you are smarter than them all. Amazing…



  184. DUCK FUKE
    8:21 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink


  185. Hoss
    8:23 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Willie, you are simply lucky to be an American if you believe in Christianity. The US and Canada are just about the only countries left in the world with a majority of their populations being Christian (American being only roughly 85% last I’d read, feel free to check my numbers). In the world eye, Christianity is dropping off the map. And for good reason. What people like you will never understand or agree to is that your demeanor and physical and chemical makeup- whatever that part of ‘you’ is that drives your selfish need for the belief in an afterlife or ‘eternal’ anything- if born on the other half of the globe, would be praising Allah right now. They are both gods that fill a need in weak individuals.



  186. billy
    8:23 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    It really doesn’t matter whether prayer to God is done before anything except church services. God is the ruler of this world and all things are his will. It really doesn’t matter if any person who reads this don’t believe it. God still rules this world. Understand? Some people who didn’t believe this before they died now they know it is true.



  187. Roland
    8:30 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    177 Do ya feel guilty?



  188. catholic democrat
    8:30 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    People call themselves Christian, and then act very un-Christlike. The hatred spewed in the name of religion is sad. I voted for Obama, and will vote for him again. He is not a Muslum, he IS an American, he LOVES the USA.

    Look at maps of the US that show which states vote democrat or republican. Then look at the levels of education and teenage pregnancy rate of those states. Really-go check it out. Politicians love their voters!

    People are so busy pushing their religious and political views on others that they aren’t paying attention to what the youth of their states are doing.

    What are they doing? getting pregnant (just say no! We don’t dare teach our kids about birth control-gasp).

    What aren’t they doing? getting an education. Thanks Williams you big fat pig. Enjoy your tv



  189. Ezblueish
    8:32 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    All this amounts to is the continued demise of our country. The minority has the loudest voice due to the financial losses in law suits. Scares the shit out if everyone so we cave. Let’s raise hell about stuff that matters…14 trillion in debt ring a bell.
    You don’t hear ppl shutting down the KKK, or burning of the flag, government officials abusing power, or various other items that are offensive. Maybe WE the people need to step up and realize what this country was founded on..

    Here is what I would do…have a moment of silence and all who want to participate say prayer together at the school. Its not mandatory you participate. Civil Rights office can kiss my arse.



  190. Hoss
    8:34 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    187- No, but I felt dirty for years after I left the church. Took a lot of years to wash the residual self-righteous funk off my Karma.



  191. Roland
    8:37 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    “ya can’t touch this” for post comments.



  192. Ezblueish
    8:38 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    After reading more posts….we are a bunch a clowns….read the post….finger pointing begins before a decent discussion breaks out….it doesn’t matter Christian, Islamic, Jewish, or atheists….accept people for who they are and understand you are going to be exposed to things you disagree with everyday…how YOU respond defines who you are….



  193. willie
    8:39 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Hoss, I just checked my facts, lest you think I made them up. And they are correct. I didn’t say 95% who believed in God were Christians, I said 95% of Americans believed it God, and 88% worldwide believe in God. I never said those percentages were all Christians. And as we all know, Christians are lunatics, and Muslims are just misunderstood…Shariah law for EVERYBODY !!!!!



  194. Barry Obamaer
    8:40 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    #190, you are going to hell – just like me, barry o.



  195. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    8:44 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    When you finally step outside of religion (as I did after 22 years of vehemently defending it), you really are dumbfounded by the fact that you believed it for so long. It’s unbelievable. You really should try reflecting on the fact that you believe in a God. Oh wait, that happens to be the only “unforgivable sin” in the Bible, isn’t it? Blasphemy, right?



  196. willie
    8:45 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    answers.com



  197. BigBlueLush
    8:46 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Who can be offended by a prayer asking for the safety of all involved in a violent collision sport like football that happens before kickoff? They didn’t just ask that the Christian althete’s be protected I am sure. Its not like it is being used as a recruiting tool to get people to convert or something. Plus its in FRIGGIN BELL COUNTY, not little Muslimville/Buddahville/Atheistville in NY City or something like that. I am sure there are not many people there who actually object to the prayer, its just some idiotic outside group poking their nose in. The moral decay of our country continues. If we dont get our heads out of our collective a$$ES SOON then we are done as a country. Our grandkinds will be speaking Chinese, not English. And it will be our fault because we are wasting time and resources on this stupid $hit.



  198. White House Teleprompter
    8:47 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Ain’t it funny, all you guys are talking about praying – and the only time your president prays is right before he gives a speech. He prays, “oh glorious White House Teleprompter, please don’t fail me now.”



  199. bung
    8:48 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    good grief….I am taking the football and going home…



  200. Beetle bum
    8:48 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Most atheists are not non-religious. They have a religion.



  201. Roland
    8:49 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Has it been said b4? If so Yada, etc



  202. bung
    8:50 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    ok atheists…..put down the bottle and back away from the keyboard slowly……



  203. Evan
    8:52 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    #40 is right on the money IMO. And as I stated earlier (#27), if it’s unconstitutional to have the kind of prayer offered at Bell County, then it’s also unconstitutional to do so at the Presidential inauguration or a Congressional session.



  204. willie
    8:53 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    197 and 198 I’m right there with ya…
    I’m outta here. Arguing here won’t change any minds. Some are too far gone…



  205. Roland
    8:59 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    This is some crazy stuff. Coach Cal had BETTER NOT EVER mention God.



  206. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    9:01 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    -Caesar Augustus issued a worldwide census that required millions of people to travel to ancestral cities….yet there is no record of this census in any Roman histories.
    -God struck down the firstborn males of Egypt, including a royal prince…yet there is no record of these events in the Egyptian annals
    -Luke lists multiple rulers as being in power at the time of Jesus’ birth…yet several of these Roman leaders never even lived at the same time
    -Several hundred thousand Hebrews wondered in a specific desert for four decades…yet Israeli archaeologists have never been able to find evidence of such
    -The Jewish Sanhedrin met IN THE MIDDLE OF PASSOVER to condemn Jesus to death…yet every Jewish scholar admits that this is inconceivable and ludicrous
    -Matthew and Acts record two totally different deaths for Judas Iscariot…yet fundamentalist Christians claim that the Bible is inerrant and internally consistent

    But uneducated Gentiles think all of these things are totally OK….until they get an education and realize that it’s all a bunch of malarkey.



  207. cats1068
    9:04 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    This thread has been an example of keyboard cowboys at its finest. WOW!!!!!



  208. Justin
    9:05 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    The prayer is said as an act of respect and tradition. It has nothing to do with pushing religion on anyone. It is a traditionally Christian community. That is why they respect traditonal Christian values.



  209. Job
    9:06 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I really need some wine right now? Jesus? Throw a brother a bone. Oh, and make it the good stuff, not that box crap. Amen.



  210. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    9:09 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    One of the most jaw-dropping testaments to the insecure foundations of fundamentalist Christianity, and something that “Christian” children are never shown: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbpkcuEzB11qaenuoo1_500.jpg



  211. Roland
    9:15 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    If ya kneel down and ask the Lord that ya want “ya do your best”, what’s the problem?



  212. Jesusman
    9:21 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Romans 1:28-32… is wats happening to America…it’s sad cuz da country uz strong back when most ppl believed in God.



  213. Mass Confusion
    9:25 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    210. Of course it’s going to contradict. White people writing themselves into African scripture and proverbs looking for salvation.



  214. Ramses
    9:29 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    212 – dude. really? cuz? da? ppl? You lost all credibility with that nonsense. Are you 12 and think you are texting someone?



  215. willie
    9:43 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Ok, Confusion, you’re repeating yourself ! We all know us white folk are just usin’ black proverbs and stuff to keep you down…blah, blah…



  216. catfanran
    9:47 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Thats whats wrong with this nation, it is not Al-Quida that is our biggest threat to our nation it is the ACLU taking God out of everything
    coming and going and now you cant even pray before a sporting event. WHAT they should have done they should have taken the P.A. system and stated that due to some idiots in Wisconsin we wont be able to Pray for the players safety, their the trip back home, or the school systems and we wont be able to thank God for the beautiful weather we are sorry that
    we cant Thank God in general but we will now go to our National Anthem until we hear from the ACLU stating it is unconstitutional.



  217. catfanran
    9:58 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    188 you need help…….most Catholic’s I know drink like fish, raise hell through the week, but that is okay as long as they go to confession
    not to their God but to a Priest..I dont understand your religion. As far as Obama is concerned you voted for him and you got what you paid for….another 4 years of him and our nation will crumble in a socialist
    state…WAKE UP AMERICA………….



  218. Mass Confusion
    10:02 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    willie…blah blah…that was brilliant. I didn’t say black, I said African…race hate much? Truth hurts don’t it



  219. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    10:05 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (205) Or Obama…



  220. go big blue
    10:07 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I have attended Bell Co. football games for 15 years and they have prayed before every single game until now. If you think it is against your “constitutional right” to hear somebody pray for those kids on the field and others just STAY AT THE HOUSE the pastor doesn’t say you have to pray with him or listen to him for that matter. Quit being a jerk and enjoy the game unless the National Anthem has you upset too.



  221. Blank
    10:08 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    I’ve lost all faith in humanity after reading these comments



  222. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    10:11 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (221) The real question is whether you’ve lost faith in a God, tho…



  223. Mass Confusion
    10:23 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    220. Because something has been done for years doesn’t make it right. Why can’t the people pray at home before the game? Why pray over a loud speaker, can God not hear you?



  224. SexnNursinHomes
    10:36 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    If the Romans had just double-tapped Jesus, then he wouldn’t have been a zombie. Which brings me to my point, I like my Jesus burnt on the cross, make sure his ass is dead.



  225. American Jesus
    10:45 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Now that we’ve got them boys winning at football lets see if we can get ole Dale Jr to win at drivin fast and turnin left, then we can go back to hating women, blacks, mexicans and liberals!



  226. Grover
    10:53 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Religion is like a dick. It’s ok that you have one, it’s great that your proud of it. but don’t go whipping it out in public, waving it all over the place, and don’t try to shove it down my kid’s throat.



  227. BigBlueLush
    11:43 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Had to post something so that garbage in 224 isn’t the last post. Dude, you are a duchebag.



  228. Bob Saget
    11:43 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (222) What god?



  229. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    11:45 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    (224) freaking love it. makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside



  230. JP7
    11:47 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    The Consitution refers to freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. The law was made to stop the government from forcing people to believe the way the government wanted them to the way King George in England had made them. No one is forcing anybody to participate in prayer before a game, and no one should force them to not participate either. The idiots at the ACLU and the bleeding heart liberals are going to bring this country to ruin with garbage like this. It is more than common for prayer to be heard befotre a sporting even tin Kentucky. Even those who don’t practice religion respect it enough to stand quietly until it is over. I applaud all those brave enough to stand up for their belief that they should have the freedom to pray even though the liberals would try to stop them. The Department of Education needs to butt out and try to do their job.



  231. InChristAlone
    11:52 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    Regardless of what anyone has to say, the Bible is 100% inspired by God. You can believe it for yourself, or you can go on believing that it is just a book of stories. The scripture says that a fool says that there is no God. People want to try and throw out there opinions all the time, but when you go back through the ages of time and research, the Bible can not be proved wrong. I have practically played sports my entire life. Every team that I have ever played on has prayed before games. Is that a tradition for some people? It probably is. Prayer should not be a tradition, it is our way of speaking with God. There should be no reason in this world that anyone shouldn’t be allowed to pray before a game. People may get offended by it? I get offended when someone tells me I cannot pray to God. The problem with this country is that we are so spoiled, and we have had everything practically given to us without us having to do a whole lot. You want to know where everything has came from that we have been given? It has came from the Good Lord above. There is one question everyone needs to ask themselves. If I were to die, today, would I be in heaven, or would I be going to hell? Just being a good person is not going to get you to heaven. Saying that you are not really into the whole God thing is not going to get you into heaven. Asking Jesus to come into your heart and save you is the only thing that is going to get you into heaven! He gave His life for us, and He died for our sins so that we could spend eternal life with God in Heaven. His blood covered our sins and has redeemed us if we will only accept it. I know this is probably more than what was bargained for with this thread, but God’s love needs to be spread. God has given us so much, and we can be thankful for that. Remember, the fool is the one who says that there is no God! Do not be a fool. God will truly bless you, if you will give your life over to Him!!!

    God Bless You!



  232. Bob Saget
    11:53 pm August 27, 2011 Permalink

    to 230: you are perfectly wrong

    First: Its an even paid for by tax dollars, which make any religions exercise illegal by definition

    Second: If you disagree with the first point, imagine this: A mormon, catholic, buddhist, islamic, ancient greek prayer is said before the game… would you, as a protestant christian be ok with it? No? This is why we just need to get on with the GAME, its is a GAME, and forget about religion.



  233. Wow Bob
    12:33 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    I am astonished with the amount of people who are for upholding the constitution and limiting religions reach, I would have thought this would have been a one sided comment board. It is great to see that people can see the harm religion can have if it is left to its own devices and given all out control and reign. I feel that more people feel this way and the only reason it isn’t more evident is because religious organizations and those supporting them are scratching and screaming to keep a hold. Our Country IS great and we show how great everyday by upholding just causes for basic rights and recognize human rights at its core. People who cannot see bast their church and life will never understand this and will always have a linear outlook out the decline of their belief. After all we are all atheists due to the fact that their are and have been many gods that all of us do not believe in. The world will be a better place when we gain the ability to replace what security religion gives us with a true enlightened view of our fellow man and the world around us.



  234. tt
    12:40 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    if they want to pray b4 a football game let them pray. there is nothing wrong with it. if people in the audience dont want to pray they dont have to.



  235. dukesuX
    12:46 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    absolutely NOT as NO prayer associated w/public schools, & reference to “gawd” (i.e., “under gawd”) ought to be removed from “pledge of allegiance” as well



  236. Weatherbird
    1:25 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    This country wasn’t founded on freedom of religion, it was freedom of denomination. If it was freedom of religion, then why was there ever witch trials? Is it any wonder that the more God is removed in our country, the farther our country falls.

    Every time science comes up with some theory that contradicts the bible, in ten years or so, they find problems with that theory. See carbon dating.



  237. racerj5
    1:26 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    I live in Bell County and my wife is a teacher in the school system here. The whole suit was started by a group of “concerned students.” We have been getting alot of that here….15 year olds who think they are enlightened and want to draw attention to themselves. The kids who started this whole thing are probably self-inflicted outcasts who don’t even go to the games. Of course we’ll never really know because THEIR rights are protected, Funny how that works.

    As for those saying it is a publicly supported event, it’s not. It costs 5 dollars to get in, therefore making it a voluntary participated event. It’s funny that nobody says a thing when Mission of Hope, a CHRISTIAN organization comes twice a year and hands out FREE backpacks, schools supplies, clothes and CHRISTmas presents to EVERYONE, so no one is left out. Then it’s ok for us to dabble in a little God, but have a belief in Him and let someone pray for the players safety, then it’s against the law.

    Just to show I’m not closed-minded, I will say that the god most people in the stands are praying to is the little pigskin on being tossed around on the field. Bell County Football is a religion here, and the importance placed on it is why I don’t attend. There will probably be a small uprising at the next game, followed by a lot of spear rattling and some people making fools of themselves. When all is said and done, more will be said than done. Nobody really takes a stand for anything anymore and I suspect this will be no different.



  238. JR.
    1:29 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    The fool in his heart has said their is no God. The more this nation moves away from God the faster it circles the drain. Read what the founding fathers wrote, you will soon see what a perversion has been made of the Constitution. As our faith in the one true God goes so goes our freedoms. 206 Judas hanged and when cut down or rope/limb broke his swollen, bloated corpse burst. As with all you weak attempts to cast doubt this is easily explained. If Jesus did not rise nothing matters. If he did nothing else matters! Good luck.



  239. martinbluther
    3:00 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    221: Dead on. Let me force you to pray to my regionally flavored version of God or let me force you not to pray. Not a great choice. Allowing the moment of silence where people can do what they want without state-sponsored coercion or without state-sponsored atheism? Not an option. Ridiculous.



  240. not important
    3:36 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    I’m disgusted with myself that I basically read every comment, to realize that Christians think they’re always right, why I left the church. I’d rather spend an eternity in Hell than a day with a Christian. Save your prayers I won’t need them.



  241. CatFanJohn
    5:14 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    I had no idea that there were so many atheists and anti christians in our state not to mention our country. I really hope that KSR never puts up another religious post because this is truly depressing. I enjoy KSR because it is a site dedicated to UK sports, but people posting Jesus jokes and people saying they would like to do away with religion all together is very offensive and there is nothing funny about it at all.



  242. jim
    6:23 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    yes, i’m for prayer on any occasion



  243. PatMan
    7:38 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    *241* I’m with you. Very saddening to see people making fun of Jesus & God !!! *240* If hell is as I believe it to be, no one would ever want to be there.



  244. PatMan
    7:42 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    Just SAD, our country and opinions of those who live here, have fallen so far down !



  245. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    8:29 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    (241), (243) The Jesus jokes were intended to offend you (obviously). Just like how your prayers and theological beliefs deeply offend me. Freedom of speech is a two-way street.



  246. SexnNursinHomes
    8:34 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    good thing church starts in a few hours, so you holy rollers can wash this sin off from this post.



  247. Cooter92
    8:50 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    I thank God for my blessings for I know without him I am nothing. I will pray for who I want when I want. If you do not believe in God or prayer then why does it bother you so much. If someone praying for the safety of the children playing a football game is your rallying cry to promote your non-beliefs and offends you so much that says a lot about you. I hope and pray that every kid playing every week in every county in every state is kept safe. I pray that our country will find its way back to God. God Bless America.



  248. SexnNursinHomes
    8:54 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    247- cooter92, let me ask you this. If god has a plan and that plan already has a “known ending”, then why do you pray? why? if god has a plan, do you think he will change his WHOLE entire plan because of cooter92’s prayer request? praying is about the dumbest thing a dumb ass can do.



  249. Hoss
    9:30 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    247- It bothers me b/c I, for one, can’t wait for religion, all religion, to die off as the fantasies that they are. UNtil this happens, religion poisons and infects the human mind and, moreover, how those humans interact with other humans. Religion offers very little to man in general besides eternal life (a selfish notion, indeed) to he who accepts it as truth. In this light, religion creates separation. It sparks wars. It takes lives. It ruins people. That’s the problem I have with it.



  250. MacKYcat
    9:58 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    (T.I.C.) I suggest that anyone who believes in any god (whatever name) NOT be allowed to play sports! I also suggest that anyone who doesn’t believe in a god not be allowed to play sports! NOW, that makes things EQUAL!!!!! OK, yawl can go home and play in your sandbox for ENTERTAINMENT!



  251. Ezblueish
    10:08 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    Ezblueish Says:
    August 27th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
    After reading more posts….we are a bunch a clowns….read the post….finger pointing begins before a decent discussion breaks out….it doesn’t matter Christian, Islamic, Jewish, or atheists….accept people for who they are and understand you are going to be exposed to things you disagree with everyday…how YOU respond defines who you are….

    I just wanted to say this again.



  252. Pat Roberts
    10:26 am August 28, 2011 Permalink

    Go Jesus?



  253. 241,242,243
    12:19 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    Christians know that they are on the underside of the religious Kick. I Challenge every Christian here to attempt having a meaningful life and do good not for the fact that they want to get to heaven or be seen as worthy in Gods eyes, but to make the world a better place and Make an effort to lighten another persons life not because they have some underhanded reason for doing so. I equate attempting to endoctrinate others in the name of a cause as the core problem with the world and until we realize that just being good to each other without a cause is the most important thing we will continue to live in a world that is full of Conflict. Whether you like to see it or not, if you are a Religious person you are not progressive and not being progressive always leaves you behind and a part of history, Just like any other God/God’s fearing religion in the past. BTW, our Country is not going down the Shitter, It is still the Greatest Country in the World and it stays there not because of our Religious affinity but because of What we are debating on this Thread, and doing so openly. I suspect if most Christians on here could, they would turn us all and do anything to shut us up. World Bless You.



  254. UKSoCal
    2:16 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    42- Exactly! We can’t rely on explanations by the people that wrote the document. Only Real Americans(tm) and True Christians(tm) that are here today should be deciding what the context of the founding documents were. Some of those founders were humanists and liberals, just trying to set the stage for the collapse of this great country!



  255. UKSoCal
    2:19 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    Reagan bringing in the Christian Coalition was the worst thing that ever happened to the conservatism in this country.



  256. an Episcopalian
    2:37 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    236, I would recommend re-reading your fifth grade school textbooks because you seem to have missed a few key things along the way. For example, you may want to come up with a different item of support for your (admittedly misguided) argument because a quick check of the Googlez reveals that the Salem Witch Trials were in Massachusetts in 1692, 96 years before the Constitution was ratified! Also, the term “theory” as in an “I have an interesting theory about why you’re a fundie” =/= “scientific theory” as in “the theory of evolution” or “the theory of gravity.” Try this http://lmgtfy.com/?q=theory+vs+hypothesis



  257. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    2:37 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    I still think my favorite comment on the whole thread was the one saying that it must be OK since Kentucky basketball players are usually Christians.
    That’s straight-up enlightenment, right there.



  258. FSM
    2:39 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    258 – R’Amen



  259. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    2:48 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    (250) Do you *honestly* think this discussion is about whether or not Christians are allowed to “be Christian” on the field? Really??



  260. E. Z. Kiel
    3:01 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    Um, Jews pray. Muslims pray. We have had Jews, Muslims, and Christians on KENTUCKY Basketball, Football, etc. et al….teams. Gays and Lesbians too. If you don’t care enough to pray, or be a part of it, as a team (arguably an important bonding experience), then recuse yourself – temporarily. And then, may God help us.



  261. PatMan
    4:01 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    I would ask anyone on here how many times each day or week, whether intentionally or by accident, you say the name JESUS or GOD or wear a cross or any symbol of any religion. Doing any of those would prove that you actually know and understand that their is a GOD ! Now how you handle knowing that their is a GOD is your business and yours alone.



  262. swicat
    4:24 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    (118) My bad-you’re right! What i should have said is whoever is bringing in the most money for the event gets to choose”



  263. Bobby
    4:25 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    What’s the deal? If people cant realize that without the Lord, we wouldn’t have sports at all. I don’t understand for the people who don’t believe in God where they think we came from. The people who have a problem with this do not have any faith and could use some help from the Lord, and I will pray for them all.



  264. mc hammer
    4:25 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    we’ve got to pray just to make it today



  265. Harry Bottoms
    5:57 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    The same group sent the same letter to Wayne Co. 2 years ago. The Supt. and the School Board sent one back basically telling them to go jump in the lake. We still pray before every game and the kids gather at halfcourt at the end of games and the other school joins in if they see fit. We have heard nothing from them since then, guess they sank!



  266. Cooter92
    6:16 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    248- Yes I do believe that prayer changes things. The Bible references this throughout. But it wouldn’t matter if I quoted scripture after scripture to illustrate this because I am using a source that you simply do not believe in. I however do believe in God, I believe in Christian values, I believe in the Bible and it tells me that one day all will believe…

    Romans 14.11:

    For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.



  267. cats1068
    7:17 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    As I have said before, there are a lot of keyboard cowboys that have shown up on this thread. The minute names started being called was when this discussion and thread was done.



  268. kenokhan
    10:08 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    who gives a flat phuk!



  269. Tokyo now Tampa Satchel
    11:39 pm August 28, 2011 Permalink

    Jesus is just all right with me
    Jesus is just all right, Oh yeah
    Jesus is just all right with me
    Jesus is just all right

    I don’t care what they may know
    I don’t care where they may go
    I don’t care what they may know
    Jesus is just all right, oh yeah
    Jesus is just all right

    I don’t care what they may say
    I don’t care what they may do
    I don’t care what they may say
    Jesus is just all right, oh yeah
    Jesus is just all right

    Do, do, do, etc.

    Jesus is just all right with me
    Jesus is just all right, Oh yeah
    Jesus is just all right with me
    Jesus is just all right

    Jesus is just all right with me
    Jesus is just all right, Oh yeah
    Jesus is just all right with me
    Jesus is just all right



  270. Drew
    1:07 am August 29, 2011 Permalink

    I’m for prayer in public sporting events. I played football in high school and yes I am a Christian, however, I talked to teammates who aren’t Christians and they just used that time as a time to get focused for the game. There is nothing “uncomfortable” or “unconstitutional” about having players close their eyes for a couple seconds before going onto the court/field. If you aren’t a religious person, then you don’t really have to listen, but if you are (which studies show that 7/10 people are religious in one way or another) then you appreciate the prayer and you can pray to whatever God you serve.

    I believe in a God of love and grace. If you wanna learn more or ask me any questions. Hit me up at [email protected]



  271. Pat H
    8:49 am August 29, 2011 Permalink

    Pray, pray in your own way. Pray not to win, but God, win we shall. Pray that no one is injured on either team. Thank God you can play for Bardstown. We thank God we can coach you. Good luck, God bless and we love you guys….Coach Joey Downs, Bardstown High School team prayer.



  272. Wow Bob
    7:36 pm August 29, 2011 Permalink

    Without the Lord we wouldn’t have war, what kind of world would that be? One where you wouldn’t have to pray, you would appreciate the day for what it was.