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Rockets or Kings: Who Got the Better Deal?

The NBA trade deadline has come and gone, and with it, any hope of seeing Dwight Howard in Celtics green (sorry, Bill Simmons).  While some folks are belaboring the lack of blockbuster trades, others are happy to have some of their favorite players move to better locations.  I don’t think I’ve ever seen Kristen Geil so excited about Orlando as when she found out Doron Lamb was traded there.

 

 

But while we were focused on being excited for former UK players in former destinations, Sports Illustrated had to poo-poo on our excitement for seeing Demarcus Cousins and Patrick Patterson together in Sacramento Seattle.

“General manager Daryl Morey acquired the No. 5 pick in the 2012 draft, Thomas Robinson, in a six-player deal that didn’t require the Rockets to part with an A-list asset (player or pick) … This was as clean a pilfering as you will see in the modern NBA, as if Morey helicoptered in to pluck Robinson off of the roof as flames engulfed the Sleep Train Arena.”

That seems like a pretty high praise for a guy who is averaging less than five points a game like Robinson, but it’s true he does have some potential.  But is it enough to say that the Rockets basically robbed Sacramento blind?  Houston gave up a large portion of its frontcourt, including not just Patrick Patterson, but Cole Aldrich and Toney Douglas as well.  Patterson alone was scoring almost 12 points per game in a starting role, and pulling in close to five rebounds as well.  Not to mention his respectable 36.5% three-point shooting, and 50%+ overall field goal percentage, and this doesn’t seem quite the windfall that Sports Illustrated is making it out to be.  While the author did eventually acknowledge the stats that Patrick is able to put up, he did so in sort of a backhanded way:

“Parting with the serviceable Patrick Patterson – who has one more year left on his rookie contract after this season – is a small price to pay for the chance to see whether Robinson can blossom into the game-changer some believed he would be coming out of Kansas.”

ServiceableI?”  That’s what we’re going with here?  I hope PPatt makes an All-Star game in Seattle.  Or I hope that Thomas Robinson gets traded to New Orleans where he can support Anthony Davis off the bench.  Even if those things don’t happen, though, I’d argue that Sacramento did fairly well in this trade, especially if they can get Patrick to sign beyond his rookie contract.  Not only will he only get better, but Kentucky fans feel confident that he can make Boogie better too, by being just the calming influence he might need.

Either way, I’m sure Boogie and Patterson will do well in Sacramento, and even better when they get to Seattle and have one of the NBA’s best fanbases behind them. Go Cats.

Article written by Corey Nichols

29 Comments for Rockets or Kings: Who Got the Better Deal?



  1. Rockfield, KY
    9:15 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    Ally’s post just got a shoutout on The Leach Report



  2. Cat Fan in Georgia
    9:24 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    I guess I can understand the use of the word “serviceable” as applied to Patterson – the NBA “experts” that I follow pretty much describe him as a marginal starter / member of the rotation. Robinson is seen as having more “potential” which is a word that NBA teams invest millions of dollars in every year. Sacramento has been a train wreck. Poor ownership and poor front office. Here’s hoping that the new ownership can turn them around.



  3. douggercats
    9:27 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    That’s nothing compared to what went on at Grantland after the trade. Simmons ripped it. Oh well, who cares about that bean-eating SoCal bum. Grantland is the best at taking 800 words and making then 2500.



  4. Jarvis Redwine
    9:27 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    When can we get more info on the developing scandal at Louisville involving Clint Hurtt?



  5. SeoulCat
    9:33 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    Compare the stats:

    A). 11.6 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.1 apg, 51.9% fg, 36.5% 3pt, 75.5% ft
    B). 4.8 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 0.7 apg, 42.4% fg, 0% 3pt, 57.7% ft

    A is, of course, PPat. B is that other guy who isn’t Anthony Davis. Yeah, I think I’ll have an extra helping of PPat.



  6. Champ
    9:34 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    Id say “serviceable” is actually a pretty decent word to describe PPat in the NBA right now. Love the guy, but he is what he is: a very good player, but no All-Star potential. Hopefully I am proven wrong.



  7. Corey Nichols
    9:38 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    5 – I’m with you.



  8. Blueston
    9:42 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    I hate to see PPat leave – not as motivated to go see the Rox anymore. But servicable is a very good word to describe his NBA play. He averaged 12 pts and 5 boards, but there is also no strong big man on the team (Asik is about as close as it gets). And no one says Robinson is producing that much now, but it is always worth trading a somewhat replaceable player for someone who could blow up in a couple years.

    That being said, I already miss PPat.



  9. RaleighCat
    9:48 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    If you follow The Association then you’ll recognize the following names: Derrick Williams, Tristan Thompson, Wesley Johnson, Hasheem Thabeet, Michael Beasley, Jeff Green, Ty Thomas, Shelden Williams, Andam Morrison.

    All were Top 5 picks. All are vastly underwhelming basketball players.

    Thomas Robinson was a one-hit athletic wonder at KS. He’s Derrick Williams or Ty Thomas 2.0.

    Patterson is more than “serviceable” and the Kings got the better player. Not just better today, but better in 3 years. Write it down.

    Plus, the Kings added a mature professional calming presence to their locker room with Patterson. Someone who knows how to work hard and who can lead DMC by example. They have a connection from playing together at UK and I firmly believe this trade was as much about the Kings’ investment in DMC as it was about the players involved.



  10. Grits n' Gravy
    9:48 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    It’s not about the stats, it’s the fact that Patterson was at the end of his contract and Houston didn’t want to pay him. It wasn’t smart for Sacramento, because Robinson was a top 5 pick (1st year of a rookie deal) who they just traded to get a player who they will have to pay a lot more starting next year.



  11. Duke sucks
    9:49 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    This guy obviously hasn’t watch the Kings this year! The reason they where struggling was because Robinson and Cousins coiling play together. They had to trade Robinson or Cousins one,. If you want to blast the kings do so for poorly scouting the draft pick.
    That said PPat should be a calming force for Big Cuz. With the right people around him big cuz could be the best center in the league. I think the Kings got to the point to A trade big cuz or B get him the people to put around him to let him reach his potential.



  12. Mrs. Garret
    9:50 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    Question: anybody know if there’s a radio app that 1) will let me hear UK games and 2) allow me to pause play when I want and pick up where I left off??? TuneIn Radio doesn’t get UK broadcasts and IHeartRadio won’t pause!



  13. Texascat
    9:50 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    As a Cat fan living in Houston I hate to see PPat leave, but I understand why the Rockets made the trade. The Rox are the top scoring team in the lg and were willing to give up Pat’s scoring for Robinson’s potential/rebounding. Also cleared up more cap space to sign another max player in the offseason to go along with Harden. Hopefully for PPat the Kings move to Seattle with new management.



  14. Duke sucks
    9:54 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    9) your 100% right IMO. This was more about Cousins then Robinson. Paterson as we already know has no ego and knows how to play with cousins. This deal will so up more in Cousins stats then PPats. On top of that I haven’t seen where Robinson was a all-star his self. What draft pick you are is gone as soon as the season starts.



  15. wildcat813
    9:59 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    Complete money move by the Kings. GM admits it. Robinson hasn’t proven much in his rookie year and I doubt his upside. He’s too small to be a center and he doesn’t have a jumper. Tyrus Thomas and Thabeet come to mind.



  16. OMFG!!!
    10:03 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    Is Kristen Geil 12? The quality of writers on this site gets worse everytime I log on. Nick Roush is probably the best young writer on KSR. The other dweebs from KSR College are awful.

    I miss the good ole Beisner days.



  17. justafish2002
    10:05 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    This was a great trade for Houston. They get Robinson for the entire length of his rookie contract and cleaned up the logjam at PF, allowing Robinson to rotate with Terrence Jones. The Kings are a team who used basically 4 SG and 4 PF as their 8 primary players. Lots of guys playing out of position there, and it’s not likely to get better. The other import part of the deal is Garcia, who has an expiring contract. A big reason the Kings are being ripped by the media is that they didn’t shop Robinson and Garcia around to other teams and instead accepted a VERY lackluster offer. While Patterson is playing better this year, everyone has seen the extent of what he can do in the NBA, while Robinson is much more likely to greatly improve.



  18. HogtownCats
    10:06 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    #13 hit the nail on the head when he said that this trade allows the Rox to sign a max player in the offseason – think Dwight Howard. This is a far better trade for the Rockets than the Kings for that reason and also because since Robinson is still young, he is better trade bait. D Morey is probably the best GM in the league, and has been stockpiling assests in order to land another stud (preferably a big man) to go with Harden. I don’t think the Rox have any intention of keeping Robinson. Personally, I think Robinson’s ceiling is about the level of PPat’s production (less points, more rebounds) because he can’t push NBA players around like he did college players, but he has better trade value at this time than PPat and that is where all the negativity from this trade stems.



  19. Corey Nichols
    10:21 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    15, 18 – I understand that the trade was primarily a money move. In that respect, it makes a lot of sense. But they way that Robinson and Patterson were discussed, you’d think that TRob was the next Tim Duncan, and Patterson was some schlub. Neither is the case. It’s okay to praise the trade, but praise it for what it was – shrewd business – instead of claiming that one player will be better than the other.



  20. HicksPickSix
    10:27 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    19 – There isn’t an article out there describing Thomas Robinson as the next Tim Duncan. Hyperbole isn’t a substitute for background knowledge, Corey. There has to be a sport you know SOMETHING about. Curling? Men’s power walking?



  21. Reality
    10:30 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    The Kings gave up on their lottery pick. Was Patterson putting up Robinsons numbers as a rookie? No. The Kings are and were a mess. Patterson is not at the moment an NBA star. Given the right situation he might become one. It was far to early for the Kings to get rid of Robinson. He might be undersized for what he needs to play though. He may not pan out. Hopefully Patterson calms Boogie down and the two bring glory back to Seattle. Patterson doesn’t get many boards though does he?



  22. Corey Nichols
    10:39 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    20 – Connect Four. And I’m glad you could make it out this morning.



  23. Mc
    10:44 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    I agree with #11. I was surprised when the Kings drafted Robinson to begin with since his game doesn’t complement Cousins’ game well. I was thinking they’d draft Lillard. If Cousins occupies the paint, and Patterson can hit the 15-18 footers it’ll work out well for them. Maybe Robinson lives up to his hype? Time will tell, but I always felt he’d be a 12 pt 8 board guy and average on defense. I thought he’d be a serviceable player similar to Patterson without as good of a touch.



  24. Wild Night Is Texting
    10:49 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    Thomas Robinson is a joke, Houston screwed themselves on this one/



  25. RaleighCat
    10:49 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    #22- Patterson doesn’t average many rebounds because Houston doesn’t play their forwards near the basket on offense. Asik is a very good rebounder and collects most of what’s available. He’s 3rd in the NBA at 11.5 per (behind only Dwight Howard and ZBo).

    Most NBA teams stretch their 4’s out away from the basket on offense, so it’s not like Patterson is parked in the paint very often.

    I’ll agree that Robinson may be an attractive trade chip for Houston. But it was widely written as a “fleecing” by the Rockets and that Patterson isn’t much of an asset. I disagree with that assertion completely.



  26. Mack
    11:34 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    #25 – Hit the nail on the heat concerning rebounds by the forwards for the Rockets, positioned mostly in the corners 3pt shots with PPat running the baseline for dunks or short Jump shots or to the ft line for jumpshots.The kansas guy most likely will be trade bait on down the line, the rockets GM is always collecting “assets” for future trades. I wish Jones had been able to escape to another team. PPat and Boggies should play well together and I remember PPat talking about learning a lot from Chuck so in the end they will do OK and the Rockets will continue to trade PF’s and a guard or two.



  27. Korean Tacos
    11:48 am February 22, 2013 Permalink

    The Kings traded Robinson for money reasons, which they freely admitted when the trade happened. And I love PPat, but, as of right now, he is a fringe starter/rotation guy. He’s a PF who rebounds like a SF. He has no post up game. His mid-range is shaking at best. And his defense is, well, not great, but not horrid. He’s almost three years into his career and NBA execs look at it as, He is what he is. The odds of someone making a giant leap in ability and skills after three years is small. You play the odds



  28. Spenser
    1:12 pm February 22, 2013 Permalink

    The Rockets, as everyone knows, are also stacked at the 4 position. As much as I love PPat, if I was watching what they have been (the play of Greg Smith, the development of DMO, and TJ’s play in the D-league)I would be more comfortable with getting something out of Patterson. HOWEVER, for those same reasons, I cannot understand why they would bring in Robinson. Oh well, maybe they can flip him for a draft pick in the late 1st of next year’s loaded draft class.



  29. van phong luat su tp hcm
    2:11 pm February 22, 2013 Permalink