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Ranking Andrew Wiggins’ candidates

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On today’s radio show, Matt and Drew went through and ranked each of the schools vying for Andrew Wiggins’ services in a number of categories. They had so much fun that we’re going to repeat the exercise here on the blog. Tear yourself away from the live feed of Amen Corner and let’s go!

The candidates: Kentucky, Kansas, Florida State, North Carolina

1. Track record of sending players to the pros

There are currently 20 former Cats on NBA rosters. UNC has 17 alums in the league, Kansas 13, and Florida State 3. In the past four years alone, John Calipari has sent 15 players to the NBA, and will send at least one more this season, probably two once Nerlens declares. If that weren’t impressive enough, 11 of Kentucky’s 15 draft picks in the last four years have been first rounders, and UK has had the #1 pick two of the last four years. Plus, for someone as soft-spoken and private as Wiggins, playing alongside the nation’s best talent will not only help him adapt to the spotlight, it will improve his game as well. If you want to go to the NBA, Kentucky is clearly the best place to prepare in the world.

1. Kentucky
2. North Carolina
3. Kansas
4. Florida State

2. Tradition

There is only one clear loser in this one and it’s Florida State. Kentucky has 8 national titles to North Carolina’s 5 and Kansas’ 3. The closest Florida State came to a National Championship was being the runner-up in 1972.

1. Kentucky
2. North Carolina
3. Kansas
4. Florida State

3. Chances of winning the National Championship

Without Wiggins, Kentucky has the best chance to winning the title. North Carolina will be good as well, especially if P.J. Hairston, Reggie Bullock and James Michael McAdoo return. With Ben McLemore going pro, Kansas will lose all five starters, but Bill Self has enough left in the cupboard to rebuild. Florida State? Well, I think ESPN’s Eammon Brennan puts it best:

Anyway, if Wiggins chooses Florida State, he might just be good enough to make the Seminoles a contender in the ACC. If he picks Kentucky, just cancel the season and give the Wildcats the title. It will save us all a lot of time.

1. Kentucky
2. North Carolina
3. Kansas
4. Florida State

4. Coach

This is a tough one to judge, as we have no idea of knowing how close Andrew Wiggins is with John Calipari, Roy Williams, Bill Self or Leonard Hamilton. But, in terms of the coach most capable of getting Wiggins ready for the NBA and winning a title–the two factors he has said are most important in his decision–I’d rank them as such:

1. Kentucky
2. Kansas
3. North Carolina
4. Florida State

5. Campus

I’ve only been to UK and North Carolina’s campuses, so this is also a tough one, but here’s my best, completely objective, guess:

1. North Carolina (very pretty)
2. Florida State (I’ve heard the campus isn’t great, but nice weather and only a few hours from the beach)
3. Kentucky
4. Kansas (although you could argue for a higher ranking due to the unique atmosphere in Allen Fieldhouse)

6. Marketability

Wiggins has been called the best high school player since LeBron. He’s also been dubbed “The Canadian Jordan.” Obviously, marketability will be very important to him in the coming years. Considering Calipari’s success in putting players in the pros and each player’s various endorsement deals (“The Brow,” John Wall’s deals with Reebok and now adidas, MKG’s deal with Jordan Brand, etc.), in addition to the amount of exposure he’ll get at UK (“Best team ever,” chances at going undefeated, almost every game on national TV), I’d give Kentucky the nod over the other three. North Carolina is a close second.

1. Kentucky
2. North Carolina
3. Kansas
4. Florida State

7. Family ties

Wiggins’ parents have made it clear that they would like their son to attend Florida State to continue the Wiggins’ family legacy (both were athletes there); Wiggins’ brother plays at Wichita State, which is two and a half hours from KU; and he has family in North Carolina. This is the only category in which Kentucky is the clear loser.

1. Florida State
2. Kansas
3. North Carolina
4. Kentucky

8. Fan Base

The Big Blue Nation dominates this category and it’s not even close.

1. Kentucky
2. Kansas
3. North Carolina
4. Florida State

Conclusion: C-A-T-S CATS CATS CATS. According to these rankings, Kentucky is the logical destination for Wiggins. I hope he feels the same.

Final rankings (1st being 4 points, 4th being 1 point):

1. Kentucky (27 points)
2. North Carolina (22 points)
3. Kansas (18 points)
4. Florida State (13 points)

Your turn.

Article written by Mrs. Tyler Thompson

No, I will not make you a sandwich, but you can follow me on Twitter @MrsTylerKSR or email me.

73 Comments for Ranking Andrew Wiggins’ candidates



  1. ajh
    2:05 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    The only one i disagree with is the coach. I would say Self over Cal.



  2. Lenny
    2:05 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    You know I have gotten to know the Wiggins family pretty well by going through their garbage and I have got to say that there is a lot of UK stuff in there.



  3. Roland
    2:09 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Did I ever tell you, I thought you were a hard worker, Mrs TT?
    If not, let this count.
    Thanks for the post.



  4. Ummmm
    2:11 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    #1 they put WHY they chose Cal…getting players NBA ready (Cal sends a ton to the NBA after 1 year with his dribble drive offense) and winning a title (UK has a much better shot this year than KU) …those were the reasonings…read that blurb again



  5. mirv
    2:14 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Good write up. Would be better if you put an overall conclusion by adding the “total points” for each school and concluding overall.



  6. smh
    2:17 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    just heard wiggins was visiting Louisville today? can anyone confirm or deny this report. please god dont let him go to them fools



  7. nogameforoldmen
    2:18 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    #5
    Good idea, but it will be interesting to see how the media treats the ‘Cats next year. Will they continue their usual role as haters or will the sheer star power of the incoming class win some of them over?
    This will affect the overall tone of the exposure any of the incoming recruits get, I think. But, overall, I think UK wins it hands down.



  8. Realist
    2:19 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Wiggins is the #1 draft pick wherever he chooses to go, therefore the first category is obsolete.



  9. J in Orlando
    2:19 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    6 lol good one…the last thing he would do is go to the program where NBA draft stocks go to die



  10. Yeah Right
    2:20 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Shawn Reilly and Curtis Morrison – the Watterson-gate fall guys. Such bull, oh well, it’s modern politics. Bet they are UofL fans too.



  11. J in Orlando
    2:22 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    9 No its not…the top pick is his to lose, and UK is the place that provides the least risk of losing it…he wants wants to misinform the public to keep the suspense going, but he will pick UK…probably has been set on UK for awhile now



  12. Bleed Blue
    2:25 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    @6 it would be kind of hard for Wiggins to visit UofL when he is in NYC preparing for the JBC. Everybody needs to stop worrying, he is coming to UK, you can take that to the bank. I haven’t worried about it since Mid-March. If you don’t want to believe me that’s totally fine by me, but it has been pretty much a done deal for 3 weeks now.



  13. Will
    2:26 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Would definitely put Kansas above UNC for tradition. Championships aren’t everything. College basketball essentially started at KU. And they are the second winngest team. Otherwise, great job as usual TT!



  14. sniper
    2:26 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    When is he committing to a school?



  15. Realist
    2:26 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    If Andrew Wiggins (the best high school player since Lebron) chooses elsewhere and he isn’t the #1 pick, I’ll send you a dozen roses!!



  16. writeitdown
    2:29 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Wiggins is going to pick UNC, so we UK fans might as well move on and enjoy the 8 great recruits that are coming. (And, that is the reason he isn’t coming – 8 new recruits, 5-6 of which are total studs, plus the returning Poythress makes UK way too crowded for a super star to deal with, regardless of how “soft spoken and private” he is.)



  17. Really??
    2:33 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    #13…it’s been a done deal for 3 weeks now?? and how do you know that?



  18. Limited-edition holographic flat-top
    2:39 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    What #17 said. I mean C’MON MAN. We have enough talent to care less where he goes at this point. His loss if he choose to go anywhere else but UK. Don’t get this confused. I’d like him to join up with the best class in the history of college basketball but that’s his prerogative. Depending on how this year goes we may or may not ever see this collection of freshmen talent all at one school. He cool pony boy.



  19. MrWildcat
    2:40 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    1: 4 Points
    2: 3 Points
    3: 2 Points
    4: 1 Point

    The Total is, UK 27, UNC 22, KU 16 and FSU at 13 Biggins



  20. catfanjb
    2:41 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    where’s Lenny with his insightful rant on where Mr. Wiggins will attending?



  21. MrWildcat
    2:41 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    If he scored it the same as us Wiggins will be a Cat



  22. catfanjb
    2:42 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    be attending ^



  23. MrWildcat
    2:46 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Mrs. Tyler – Anytime



  24. Mattd
    2:46 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Honestly I think that some of the things he considered are probably: location, playing time, chance to be “the man”. But let’s be honest, people do not make lists to make a decision. People make lists to justify their decision. Since AW is picking what he is ranking, he is essentially picking the things that support his decision. He will go where he wants to go, and the list is either for his parents amusement, or simply not true. My 2 cents.



  25. UK_wildcats_89
    2:50 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    On the show today Matt said that when wiggins sat down with his family and did this Kansas came out on top. How reliable is that source, and what was wiggins reaction to the totals?



  26. dslfkj
    2:55 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Ragging on UK’s campus??? Come on man! (keyshawn johnson voice)



  27. Roland
    2:55 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    I did the low score wins ANALysis:

    Category Kentucky Kansas FSU UNC
    1. Track record to the pros 1 3 4 2
    2. Tradition 1 3 4 2
    3. Chances of winning NC 1 3 4 2
    4. Coach 1 2 4 3
    5. Campus 3 4 2 1
    6. Marketability 1 3 4 2
    7. Family ties 4 2 1 3
    8. Fan Base 1 2 4 3
    Total (Low scores best) 13 22 27 16



  28. Reliable Source
    2:56 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    I’m with 13, I haven’t worried about Wiggins for at least a month now. My source, the same one that had Nerlens to UK, Randle to UK, and T Jones switching from UW to UK says he wouldn’t trade their position with anyone elses and feels very confident. Given the track record, I’ll continue to trust this source.



  29. johnny
    2:56 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    this was a big joke and waste of time



  30. Roland
    2:57 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    It didn’t look that in the text file. LOL.
    Learn everyday.



  31. MC
    2:58 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    I wonder if the JBC will have any impact? His HS Coach is the coach of his JBC team which also includes the twins and Randle. He’ll get to see essentially what his starting lineup for next year will look like if che chooses UK.



  32. Waddup
    3:06 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    A reliable source just told me Wiggins will commit to Key West Community College. Go Fighting Conchs!!



  33. george michael
    3:07 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Playing devil’s advocate here:

    As Kentuckians and UK fans, we all love the UK campus and Lexington, but to an outsider, it’s nothing special. UNC’s campus is beautiful. You’re selling Lawrence short as well. Plus I hear Wiggins LOVED his visit there. To an outsider, UK may be last in this category.

    In the coaches category, Self should be #1. During what seems like this dominant 4 year stretch by Cal at UK, Self still has more wins. Roy and Cal are close. Cal has the best record of sending guys to the NBA, but that’s a separate category. Same goes for having a shot at the title.

    Kentucky is obviously the most marketable school, but KU and UNC are close. Plus at KU, he won’t have to share the spotlight nearly as much. He can be the lone superstar on a blue blood.

    The one thing I think we aren’t considering is that maybe Wiggins isn’t as good as his hype and mixtapes are leading us to believe. He looked really good, but not dominant in the McDonald’s game. Maybe he knows that competing with Randle on a day-to-day basis will expose some weaknesses. Maybe in the ACC, competing against Jabari Parker will do the same. Kansas gives him sole ownership of the spotlight, more minutes, more shots, less competition against potential #1 picks. The hype can continue there most easily.



  34. Larry
    3:08 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    A little too much blue koolaid today. I’m a big fan but c’mon.



  35. UKfanKathy
    3:09 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    This seems to be a no-brainer to me. I do not understand the procrastination of his decision, unless he is trying to please his parents rather than going to the best basketball tradition university in the nation. He can be either a big fish in a little pond (Florida State) or a big fish in a big pond at UK. No matter where he goes, he will be awesome and no doubt be the number one pick next year. HOWEVER, if she wants to win a national championship, which all indications say he does, then – NO-BRAINER! Come on Andrew. You AND your parents have never felt the genuine love of basketball and love of players and their well-being than at Kentucky. And even though you will be a one-and-done, you will always be a member of our family and will be welcome back any time. You will never be forgotten. GO CATS!



  36. skullanbonesdiss
    3:12 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Watch this,it will clear it up……sorry not going to draw pictures to explain this for all the “Vile” fans with limited thinking capability’s ….enjoy CAT fans:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YolHt743XUs



  37. Josh
    3:20 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    I’ve been to all four campuses, and KU gets the edge for #1 over UNC. It’s large, very green, hilly, has beautiful old buildings, and Lawrence has a gret downtown area.



  38. tom
    3:20 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Never underestimate the power of a parent’s persuasion, a girlfriend’s whisper or the reunion with a best friend. Florida State, it is.



  39. Man Hands
    3:21 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    I’ve not been to UNC’s or FSU’s Campuses…… but I can tell you Kansas has a MUCH nicer campus than Kentucky’s.

    I’m a architecture graduate of UK… so dont think I’m a KU fan talking up their campus…. but I’m just being honest.

    Lawrence is a cool little college town too. Not sure how nice it would be after a year there though.



  40. Leon Claxton
    3:22 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Cal is the best coach irregardless of NIT



  41. Roland
    3:28 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    On a quest to win a NC and BIG BUCKS in the NBA, you worried about what it looks like outside the gym?
    SMH



  42. Topical Pseudonym
    3:28 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    This post assumes Wiggins personally cares about each category equally. What if he’s 50% concerned with staying close to home and 50% concerned with NBA prep?



  43. tired
    3:29 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    I want to see Wiggins at UK next year as much as any other fan. However, I’m tired hearing about his recruitment. It’s just like Shabazz last year. It seems like he’s delaying the decision as long as possible because he likes the attention. Likes being courted by 3 or 4 different schools. The kid knows where he’s going. Just make the announcement already!

    And please let it be UK lol



  44. wow
    3:31 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    who truly cares that much to write out such an extensive article. how about we quit speculating based on some girl ranked opinions and find out when he decides



  45. nemov
    3:32 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Breaking: UK fans think UK is the best school for Wiggins. More at 11!



  46. FunnyStuff
    3:40 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    In the spirit of championship basketball and in who influenced him the most, Rick Pitino got a small portrait of John Wooden drawn on his left butt cheek and then another small image of Denny Crum on his right butt cheek. He was excited to show them off to his wife Joann and hurried home. After a few minutes of staring at “Ricks Rump,” she declared, “Well it’s certainly clear that the one in the middle is Calipari, but who are the other two guys?”



  47. SeaCat
    3:43 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    What about UK’s players dorm and practice facility?
    Why don’t we consider that under campus?



  48. lonnieb
    3:44 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    #38 thanks for the video link…..nice refresher of how great things have been for the last 4 years



  49. SLINGBLADE
    3:45 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    1. why didn’t Nick go too Fla. State?
    2.what lured him to W.S.?
    3.Andrew goes to Fla. State…They have a record season go 27-6 loose to KY in second RD of tournament.
    4.Andrew goes to Kansas….30-4 season..loose to Luisville great eight.
    5.Andrew goes to N.C…..28-7 seasen..loose to michigan second rd.
    6.Andrew goes to KY….40-0 National champs
    All these scenarios end with Andrew #1 NBA pick and KY National champs….I hope he comes along for the ride…I would love to cheer for him.



  50. greg
    3:45 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    yeah, FSU’s campus sucks. UNC’s is really pretty nice but with Keeneland and ancillary area UK isn’t that far off. But def ahead of FSU and Kansas.



  51. texasfatcat
    3:50 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    #35 I think your reasoning behind putting Self above Calipari is flawed… not that you are wrong but the reasons should not be number of wins.. records are subjective over a season predicated on the strength of your opponents, home and away, conference affiliation etc…

    So besides number of wins we should look at:

    What are the head to head records for each coach cal vs self cal vs roy and roy vs self?

    NCAA Tourney Records?

    Number of National Championships?

    Talent level of Squad? How Many MCDONALDS upperclassmen… etc…

    So in the last 4 years it is probably Calipari with the slight edge with NC and head to head comp trupmping Self superior Record in season and NCAA Tourney…Roy not even being a Factor.. however when you add in the talent pool of each team I think self has done more with less… but if you look at pure results I think Cal wins

    I do not like Self at all, would not let my child spend a year with him, and think he is way too arrogant… but I respect his ability to coach



  52. duh
    3:54 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    why do people so often spell “lose” as loose ? so annoying to me.



  53. mark
    3:55 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Can’t believe I just scrolled through 50 comments in a Wiggins post and Lenny isn’t here to creep us all out.



  54. Insider
    3:56 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    He isn’t coming here.



  55. adolph oliver bush
    3:59 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    I think 35 may be on to something in his last paragraph. I also watched the McDonald’s game and saw virtually no comparison to Lebron. Very good, yes. The greatest thing in a decade, ehh… Would love to get him, but is he being over-hyped? Its easy to watch mixed tapes, but watching him play a full game made me think that we’d be better with him, but still great without him. Dunno



  56. David Elswick
    4:13 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Bill Self ranked over Roy Williams? NO friggin’ way!



  57. Lcat
    4:25 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    He is a Tar Heel! The money has already been deposited in a “secret” bank account via MJ and the Bobcats who will have rights to him after his freshman year. he will have his own apt off campus with a live in co-ed. Its all settled. Uk has to come up with some folding money to get this guy.



  58. RealCatsFan
    4:32 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    48, actually she said “The one in the middle with the turtleneck is a dead ringer for Tom Jurich, but who are the other two guys?”



  59. Al's IndiCats
    4:59 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    38) I never seen that one before. Thanks…When you hear of folks bitching and complaining about this year all they need to do is go back and see how dismal it really was under Clyde and how far we come since that idiot walked on campus….
    Yeah in CAL we TRUST. If Andrew goes else where all the power to him, but if he wants to win a NC he’ll come to UK….GO CATS!
    48)…It’ll be like when your Princess of Porchini’s darlng of Uvel goes to show her privates to her girlfriends in prison, there’ll be a Tat of your coach.



  60. Porcini Prince
    5:03 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    46) Why don’t you go back out to the barn, the sheep are calling your name



  61. Maxbps8
    5:04 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    Do NOT underestimate the power of being the youngest in the family, the proverbial baby of the family. It is a very strong dichotomy of both wanting to please and maintain family continuity AND the simultaneous pull to PAVE one’s own PATH in life SEPARATE from one’s dad and older brothers’ specifically. I chose the later option by going to Mississippi State instead of Cincinnati nor KentuckY (father and brother, respectively).

    Of course, though, that was a BIG mistake. I should have gone to UK and blazed my own path in other ways! Actually I should have moved to Chicago, joined The Second City crew before moving on to SNL and later movie-fame. But I digress…



  62. Chicago Chris
    5:30 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    But then, we’d be the destination for everybody, right?



  63. Chicago Chris
    5:32 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    #63 Wha? Where are you now?



  64. Bleed Blue
    7:15 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    @51 Nick Wiggins hardly plays for a mid major team he wasn’t good enough to play for FSU, thus the reasoning why he didn’t go there. He started out in JUCO and then transferred to WSU. Also KU won’t win 30 games even if Wiggins goes there. KU is losing their top 5 scorers and aren’t bringing in a whole lot. With all that said it’s lose not loose. How anybody can make that mistake is beyond me.



  65. Ukbball4eva
    10:50 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    #66. Is your twitter BBN_wildcat??? If so r u still confident in wiggins/what makes u so sure?



  66. Bleed Blue
    11:00 pm April 11, 2013 Permalink

    @67 Yes, and still very confident. My guy has not been wrong on any of the commits in the past 2 years, so I trust him.



  67. Iggy
    12:03 am April 12, 2013 Permalink

    by far the most bias sports article i have ever read



  68. Ukbball4eva
    5:46 am April 12, 2013 Permalink

    #68 yea I trust u bro. U said randle was a lock 3 weeks b4 he commited, was us ya source telling you is the reason 4 the delayed announcement??? And do u think he’s let cal, and the other recruits now yet?



  69. BewareThePhog
    6:33 am April 12, 2013 Permalink

    @66 How you can say that KU will not win 30 games without Wiggins? Kansas is the first program Division 1 to have 30 plus wins in 4 consecutive seasons. This comes after losing NBA talent each year. We have the #2 ranked recruiting class coming in (#3 if you go by ESPN) and have talent returning. I understand having pride for your own school, that’s fine which is why i’m not even going to comment on how laughable some of the points in this article were but you can’t ignore the facts. You can’t ignore history.



  70. Bleed Blue
    1:25 pm April 12, 2013 Permalink

    @70 My guy says Wiggins may have silently committed to him when Cal went and visited, that’s why Cal sent posted the article on Bob Wiggins a day after that. It was always going to be this late on Wiggins. Means zero either way for UK. There’s a plan. He’s following it. Nike would love for him to announce tomorrow, but that probably doesn’t happen. I would say he could do it sometime in the next week or 2. I just don’t see it stretching into May.

    @71 yes after losing 1 or 2 players not 5. Also Self hasn’t done all that well with his freshman that have had to start McLemore is the exception. How did Selby and Xavier Henry do? I’m not saying you all will be horrible, but you have never had to do a turn around with less to work with like next year will be. Wayne Selden will probably be your best player. But you will not win 30 games in my opinion.



  71. Iggy
    6:12 pm April 12, 2013 Permalink

    @Bleed Blue. year after year, people doubt kansas because they’re losing too many starters… yet every year, KU manages to win the Big 12 and be a 1 or 2 seed in the tourney. Dont be surprised if it happens again next year, with or without wiggins.