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Hypothetical matchups are about as useful as Rick Pitino’s wrinkle cream, but nevertheless, they give us some fun offseason debates. Everyone’s favorite “What if” aggregator,, highlights one of the more hot topics in the Bluegrass since Louisville won their title: who would win between 2012 Kentucky and 2013 Louisville?

While the question seems laughable to most Kentucky fans, as the 2012 Cats beat a younger version of the 2013 Cards twice, the site argues that another year of experience would give the Cards a fighting chance. But when it comes to talent, Kentucky was clearly superior, with six draft picks from the 2012 team to Louisville’s one in Gorgui Dieng (Peyton Siva is currently projected 70th by Chad Ford). For that reason, John Ewing, Director of Research and Analytics, says the Cats would win two of three matchups, with the Cards winning at home by one point:

2012 Kentucky vs. 2013 Louisville, Rupp Arena

Kentucky wins 63.2% of the time by an average score of 61-57

2013 Louisville vs. 2012 Kentucky, KFC Yum! Center

Louisville wins 60.8% of the time by an average score of 61-58

2012 Kentucky vs. 2013 Louisville, neutral site

Kentucky wins 51.3% of the time by an average score of 59-58.

If both teams were matched up after the season ended, I don’t see any way Louisville could win. By the end of the season, Anthony Davis, MKG and company were a force none could reckon with, even in enemy territory.

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37 Comments for says 2012 UK would beat 2013 UofL 2 out of 3 times

  1. Bad!
    6:38 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    Something tells me we are just one injury (Randle?) away from not winning this year…Wiggins would’ve been a great get..

  2. Random
    6:40 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    They’re being way too generous to Louisville.

  3. History
    6:46 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    They already beat them 2 out of 2 times.

  4. brain
    6:47 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    LOL. That’s ridiculous. UK wins at least 8 out of no matter where they meet. Stupid machine must have a line beard.

  5. c1doc
    6:47 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    UK would beat them 3 out of 3.

  6. NineWillBeFine
    6:52 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    I think giving Louisville the 1 is extremely generous. But whatever, who cares? And #1- what possibly makes you think that? This team has a lot of depth, something that Calipari has not always valued. Also, maybe let them play at least just 1 game before predicting doom

  7. John Ellis
    6:57 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    They’re 2/3rds right. UL won their FF games by dint of some bad calls. I don’t think any of the three games would be close.

  8. RickPitinosUglyTat
    6:58 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    LOLOLOLOL. UofL’s title run this year wasn’t even that impressive. They had to have help from the refs to beat an EIGHT SEED in the semi-final, and they beat a Michigan team that wasn’t so hot defensively. 2012 UK would wax the floor with 2013 UofL EVERY TIME. This prediction machine is terrible. Heck, this year’s team almost beat UofL at the Yum.

  9. Kettle
    7:02 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    Why pot(#6). BBN did’nt let them play 1 game before they crowned them the 2nd coming of the Christ.

  10. Trevor Runyon
    7:03 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    I bet you a steak dinner that Cats win every game

  11. etrain
    7:04 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

  12. jaws2
    7:06 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    This year was a down year overall. u of l won in a weaker year. UK won in a stronger year against better competition, and beat essentially the same u of l team twice. The 2012 UK team would beat this u of l team 8 of 10; no doubt.

  13. BBNFL
    7:08 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    Lets see….the 2012 team was one of the best teams in NCAA history. Last years Louiville team was one of the weakest national champions of all time. The 2012 team would wipe the floor with those goons.

  14. NineWillBeFine
    7:08 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    #9- I’m glad that you have such a thorough grasp on a popular colloquialism, but my name doesn’t necessarily refer to next season. Banner nine will be really fun, but I have nowhere guaranteed that it will 100% come next season. However, if you don’t recognize there is a strong chance that it could, you’re a fool. Thanks for playing.

  15. etrain
    7:08 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    they even tweated today who cares about wiggins decision wow ill tell u cares bbn and cal he recruited him for a reason thanks a lot guys

  16. NineWillBeFine
    7:11 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink


    A couple points to make here. First of all, I’m not sure if you or the article are aware (I admit, I didn’t click the link), but it was not Aaron Harrison making anti-Wiggins remarks on that vine video, it was his friend in the backseat. If Wiggins really made his decision based on that, I suggest he develop thicker skin.

    Second, I love that the Harrisons and Randle are brash and confident. I would much rather have a group of intense, killers like this group seems to be than the shrinking violets that composed some of last years newcomers (Mays, Goodwin to an extent).

  17. Gossip Hound
    7:17 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    2014 UK beats both in a sweep with Wiggins. If we don’t get him, then who knows.

  18. etrain
    7:22 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    16 i know it was kid in backseat but u got to be smarter than that to think there is a reason the kid would say something like that and the twins were laughing about it if the twins didnt have a problem with wiggins i dont think some kid in the backseat would be saying this. get for real i wouldnt want to come play with someone that didnt want me. ur talking about a team that would destroy college basketball next year now ur talking about a good team next yr that might win championship .

  19. etrain
    7:24 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    i love uk to death but the twins acted like cry babies in all star games . they better be ready to play come fall

  20. Harry
    7:24 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    last four years = 4 outta 5. Russ smith or no Russ smith KY wins in Lexington this year.

  21. We are stupid
    7:27 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    12:02 p.m.

    Rob Bromley is in Huntington.

    That has to be a good sign, right?

  22. Harry
    7:29 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    If we beat cards twice next season, that would be 7 outta last 8. That is pretty one sided, at what point we can conclude that it not a rivalry but a beat down 88% of the time!!

  23. JM
    7:31 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    Sure hope we aren’t sitting here next March saying “If only we would have had Wiggins”
    I seem to recall the same thought crossing my mind this past season about Muhammad.

  24. gogo
    7:31 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    1 – tell me what team in the country WOULDN’T be an injury to one of their top 2 or 3 players away from winning it all?

  25. NineWillBeFine
    7:33 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    True, it certainly wasn’t the best timing or idea. I get where the twins are coming from frankly, I don’t like the way Wiggins conducted his recruitment. To me, it would have been classier had he simply let Kentucky and UNC know they were out of the running when it happened (about a month ago, according to several reports on here and elsewhere). Oh well, c’est la vie. I’m thrilled with the team we have and already can’t wait for next season.

  26. NineWillBeFine
    7:35 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink


    Sure, last season’s team would have been a lot better with Shabazz, but a) Cal tried to get him, sometimes even he misses his target and b) last year the rhetorical cupboard was not stacked nearly as full of talent as it is this time around. I looked at Wiggins as a cherry on a sundae. Sure, it makes it seem more complete, but they’re incredibly delicious anyway.

  27. JM
    7:37 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    Not getting Wiggins takes a bit of the excitement away… I’m sure I’ll get there but it really sucks.

  28. slim
    7:49 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    Do people forget that the 2012 team basically played the 2013 UofL team and beat them twice? Heck the 2012 UofL team could have been better with Kyle Kuric and Chris Smith on the team. The 2013 squad was a victim of a very down year in college basketball.

  29. UKBlue
    8:19 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    It’s almost cute UL fans thinking they are relevant. Just call this year what it was : a fluke of extremely bad college basketball across the board. UL had to have a very bad of year college basketball to finally win a championship; even as bad UK was in 2013, they almost came back & beat UL at Yum.

  30. Otis
    8:45 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    Even I think this is stupid, and I’m a complete idiot. You already beat us two times that season. Plus we had Kuric. I agree with 28.

  31. ukblows
    9:37 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    #29. Weak year? You lost to a weak UCONN team 2 years ago in the weakest final four if all time. Its OK that UL had a good team and won a title. Not to mention an NIT birth and loss in a weak year doesn’t make UK look so great. Just give credit where credit is due.

  32. HerrOgden
    10:43 pm May 14, 2013 Permalink

    If you take the averages of the percentages of games won for each team, Kentucky wins 51.33% of the time(154/3), while Louisville wins 48.66% of the time (146/3)… So no, Kentucky does not win two thirds of games played. You misread the statistics.

  33. Cheesyburger
    12:26 am May 15, 2013 Permalink

    KY beat the same team to win the 2012 title. Same players one year later. Given a year UK would have beaten them again. I suspect the cards will have their feathers ruffled again this year.

  34. Literacy
    6:44 am May 15, 2013 Permalink

    The prediction actually said the Cards win by 3 at home, not 1. You seemed to relish saying that it was only by 1… funny, but the prediction actually said UK won one of the games by only 1. So your lack of reading comprehension actually has you putting down your own team. Good job!

  35. no way
    7:25 am May 15, 2013 Permalink

    No way it would have even been that close… except maybe on the UL win at home.

  36. CATS
    8:42 am May 15, 2013 Permalink

    Garbage…. Anthony Davis & MKG would NEVER lose to loserville EVER

  37. Chad
    1:46 pm May 15, 2013 Permalink

    Didn’t 2012 team beat 2013 twice anyway. They were pretty much the same exact team. BBN!