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Polling The Audience: Steve Spurriers Payment Plan?


You know it’s cold when the mountains are blue.

With the SEC Spring Meetings over, a lot more came out of it than we’re used to seeing.  From the league consolidation, to football coaches battle with over-signing, to paying players, it made more headlines than normal.  But that’s a good thing, because if you aren’t trying to make things better, you aren’t really trying.

To me, though, the most interesting dialog was the one opened with regards to paying players.  I don’t think that Steve Spurrier expected his plan to be approved and *poof* college athletics is no longer an amateur sport.  But I do think he intended for it to open a discussion, and that’s exactly what we’re going to do with it.

Spurrier’s plan proposed that a certain number of players per team (70, to be exact) would receive $300 for every game they played in. The money would – under Spurriers plan – come from the salary of the head coach.  Maybe not the perfect solution, but it’s better than increasing ticket prices.

Frankly $300 a game seems a little low for some of these players.  Take a Tim Tebow, for instance, that brought in millions of dollars to Florida.  If Florida makes it to the SEC championship game, and then a bowl game, that is 14 opportunities to get paid.  Tebow would have made $4,200 for the season.  That’s certainly not chump change, but it is far from what his actual value was.  Of course if you were the second string Left Guard for Vanderbilt $4,200 is mighty generous.

So let’s start that conversation.  Should players get a cut of what they bring in for the university? Should all players receive the same flat rate amount of money?  Or are full athletic scholarships payment enough on their own?

Article written by Will Lentz

46 Comments for Polling The Audience: Steve Spurriers Payment Plan?

  1. Hambone
    1:04 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    No, scholarships pay players. End of story.

  2. Will Lentz
    1:15 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    No matter how much money they bring in?

  3. Computer Blue
    1:18 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    $300 is nothing compared to what a booster or agent will give them, so I don’t see it helping that problem any.

    Playing for a college is, in most cases, already the best deal a player can get, otherwise they would go elsewhere. Why don’t more basketball players go overseas and get paid to develop their game? Because the coaches and opportunities here are better, that’s why.

  4. Ben
    1:22 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    Looks like Steve needs a bra!

  5. JVice
    1:31 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    Are you really making a snide remark about a grown man drinking a beer? Really?

  6. workingman
    1:32 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    I think the players need to be receiving some form of compensation from the NCAA TV and merchandising profits. The real debt is owed to the athletes by the NCAA and the conferences to a lesser degree. Not so much the schools.

  7. Mudcreekmark
    1:34 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    You cannot pay players period. You cannot pay football players and not softball players or tennis players etc. Basketball and baseball players would end up making more money because they play more game than football. Stupid idea. A scholarship is worth a lot of money and is a really good pay off for playing a game. My daughter got a scholly and I thought I had won the lottery. I sure wasn’t complaining that she wasn’t getting paid to play games.

  8. Simp
    1:41 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    I’ll be in favor of paying the players when they are forced to be a collegiate athlete — and that will never be the case. Either they know what they’re getting into before college or they should.

  9. ukchampion
    1:41 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    good lord youre missing the point entirely Will Lentz.

    the idea is not supposed to pay players proportional to how much they bring in, or for their “actual value”. that is called “professional sports”. it is only supposed to give the players some spending money so they aren’t tempted to sell memorabilia or carjack a Prius in order to have enough pocket change to take a chick out to dinner once in a while. especially since they don’t have the option of getting a part time job due to training and games.

    i think it is worth all the discussion and could solve some of the issues. the problem is it would be a slippery slope, and a huge step toward the end of collegiate sports as we know it.

  10. go cats
    1:41 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    The payment players receive is a free trip to college. It’s their decision to leave early and earn another form of payment. Regular people pay thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, for their educations – athletes don’t have to.

    Paying student athletes is stupid.

    I think that it would be fair to allow student athletes to sell their jerseys, etc. – if they’re the ones stupid enough to sell something at the time rather than waiting to a) keep something that ends up being more important to them than they realize or b) later making MORE money of them…then so be it.

    But they should NOT be paid.

  11. Rick
    1:43 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    Paying players a salary no, letting them have a percentage of endorsements their jersey or name is attached to I think should be allowed. Separate it from the school period and set a limit.

  12. ukcatsfan2
    1:45 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    It appears the BETA program has already proved this doesn’t work.

    BETA = THE Ohio State!

  13. wd
    1:48 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    Please people, open your eyes to a little change. This is a very well thought out plan by Spurrior.Most coaches in D 1 are extremely well paid so it makes good sense for them to compensate. It is simple really,by law if you perform a service to someone, you should be paid.

  14. Blue Virus
    1:51 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    This is how players already get paid:

    1. Tuition
    2. Dorm
    3. Meal plan
    4. Shoes
    5. Athletic gear (shorts, shirts, hats, etc)
    6. World class weight and cardio equipment
    7. World class strength training coaches
    8. Big conference players get national exposure on TV
    9. Travel stipends for away games

  15. tdogg4033011
    2:16 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    14) pretty good points, I agree on that

  16. Francis the Talking Mule
    2:22 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink


  17. clancykatt
    2:23 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    Put me in coach — PLEASE put me in !

  18. Owen
    2:26 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    Yeah, compared to regular students, athletes get some pretty sweet bonuses even compared to full-ride academic scholarships. That said, athletic scholarships make universities a lot more money than most others. I think it more or less comes out in the wash as far as fairness goes. However, student athletes don’t really have the time or opportunity to earn money like regular students do and while I’m not sure about their opportunities to take out loans to help cover basic things like automobile costs and insurance, etc. while in school, it doesn’t seem to be the same either since their schooling is already being paid for (don’t tell me none of you haven’t spent your loan overage money on booze).

  19. Section 133
    2:26 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    Additionally, UT players get the following:

    1. Pre-paid legal services
    2. Gift cards to “Bongs R’ Us”
    3. Full training by Pop-A-Lock
    4. Waffle House VIP cards
    5. Sarah Palin’s e-mail address
    6. Weekly barbecues (deleted)
    7. Rides with Bruce Pearl’s wifeon the jet ski (deleted)

  20. Chadboski
    2:26 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    Well lets look at the tuition alone. For a non resident student to go to school at UK, it’s $17678 or $1473.17 per game in a 12 game season. Their STUDENT ATHLETES, not professional athletes.

  21. Doc
    2:27 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    It is true that, for the most part, the quid pro quo of scholarship for playing a sport is sufficient. However, there are several problems with the system.

    1) A monopoly exists in the two sports which garner the most money, basically amounting to collusion between the NCAA, NBA, and NFL. I.e., even elite players are forced to play collegiate sports for at least a year regardless of whether their talents merit direct entrance into the professional leagues. There is no practical alternative.

    2) The NCAA, major conferences, and the respective schools are making an incredible amount of money with their monopoly. This only matters because of the monopoly itself. If another prospective “employer” were available, competition would exist, and players would receive a greater share of the resulting resources as the leagues vie for their services.

    3) Not only is a vast sum of money generated–it is often done using the individual likenesses of players. E.g., UK sells not only generic Wildcat jerseys, but John Wall jerseys. Video games (sometimes) use individual likenesses of players. Yet those individuals see no proceeds from these sales.

    4) Elite players disproportionately come from lower socioeconomic strata of society. (The reasons for this are numerous and irrelevant to this discussion.) They are more easily exploited, have fewer options for economic progress, and are disproportionately penalized by the numerous and often erratic NCAA regulations. E.g., a player whose family is able to provide ample spending money has no need to sell his jersey compared to a poor player with little/no money.

    Honestly, we are talking about two sports: basketball and football. Baseball brings money in at a significant number of schools and may be considered, but is not nearly as lucrative. No one is forced to give up a lucrative professional contract by being forced into collegiate Lacrosse, Track & Field, swimming, etc. In general, boosters and coaches are not breaking rules for these athletes because the money isn’t there. Paying basketball and football players a standardized stipend would not corrupt the game or compromise what academic integrity still exists. In fact, I received thousands of dollars in stipends from ACADEMIC scholarships while an undergraduate; it would not be an unprecedented system.

  22. Holler Baller
    3:03 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    Please Stevie, I’ll give you $300 to put your shirt back on!

  23. Hosscat
    3:04 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    Tie it into to how well they perform in the classroom and behave off the field, and I think you may be on to something. For example, $300 if you have a 3.0 and up, but less the worse your GPA is. Get convicted of a crime more serious than a traffic ticket, you get less or nothing.

  24. Boo f'in' hoo
    3:04 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    You go to college to get a job after college. Scholarship is payment enough. Whether its as an athlete or future schoolteacher/doctor/musician, you were given a place to develop your talents and prepare for the next stage/level.

    If the Univ. can advertise their high ACT/SAT requirement, graduation rate, retention rate, etc to bring elite level students and get grants, then they should pay stipends to all the past and present students that made it possible to make that claim.

    As much as I enjoy UK football, bball, and other sports…give me a break on paying players. If an athlete/scholarship student can’t appreciate the opportunity they’ve been given, take the scholly and give it to someone who will appreciate it and give back to the school.

  25. Jarvis Redwine
    3:13 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    No pay for play in college. Free room and board, tuition, travel. Top notch coaching (at UK anyway) and great competition. How many of us would jump at the opportunity to play any kind of sport or scholarship? I would have loved to have been talented enough just to play D-II basketball. If kids want to get paid they can go to D-league, europe or just work out for a year (while working). No pay for play in college.

  26. SexnNursinHomes
    3:27 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    Nice tits Spurrier.

  27. Ukfan3
    3:27 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    Instead of going ahead and paying the players they need look at the perks they are already receiving. There needs to be a way of controlling the perks, make the perks “legal” by pre-approving what players are getting already. They don’t need to get paid on top of everything else they get.

  28. basketball
    5:16 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    Spurrier’s plan is dumber than a box of rocks. The players are already receiving hundreds, if not thousands per game in their scholarships. That is more than enough payment.

  29. ciphercomplete
    5:50 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    Way too much sexy going on in that picture. I’m very, very, very, very intimidated.

  30. Hambone
    5:53 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    There are only a handful of athletic programs that are self-sufficient. How are these other hundreds of programs, who already lose more money than they bring in, afford to pay a quarter of a million dollar salary to their football team? And you can’t just stop at football either, if you pay one brand of athlete you have to pay every athlete. You’re looking at millions of dollars now, and most every athletic program outside a select few wouldn’t even come close to being able to fund that. You’d boil NCAA sports down to a dozen schools, because you’d run every other team out of existanse. Frankly, I’m appalled Steve Spurrier even suggested an idea at ludicrous at this, and even more stunned he got several other SEC coaches to sign off on his proposal. What the hell are they thinking?

  31. Bobby Bromley
    6:22 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    more importantly what the hell I do not understand how spurrier thought up a really smart plan then though it would be cool to take his shirt off? Flopping the moobs and nasty stomach all over destin?? come on steve you are smarter than that. There are people who under NO circumstance should have there shirt off, obviously you did not know you have reached that place in life? It is a fact an unwritten rule that every man knows…please cover your tits steve there are kids right in frint of you these are the SEC spring meetings not the AVN awards.
    I think there are some very valid points across the board here, the biggest problem will be how much then do you pay mens or womens archery or water polo? they will be pissed if ATHELETES get paid and they do not….

  32. Isiah Thomas
    6:23 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    What exactly does the NCAA do with the billions of dollars it makes every year? That money is made of of these “student-athletes” and very little is given back (in the form of scholarships). Where is all that money going?

  33. Alex Probus
    6:31 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    No way should athletes be paid for what they do. It opens a can of worms once opened will led to bad things. No way to police it. Just a stupid idea PERIOD.

  34. Smiley Face
    6:37 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    It looks like Spurriers belly button is frowning.

  35. BsbCoach
    6:47 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    People are always talking about how much money the players bring in, consider this:how much would they bring in w/o the stadiums and arenas that are funded by public funds? How much would they make w/o the marketing, coaching and TV contract negotiated by state paid employees? Bottom line, they don’t make the money, rather they are the participants in a system that generates (in some cases) large amounts of money. If it wasn’t them, it would be somebody else. Trust me, they make enough (w/scholarships) and as so many people have already said, some would always want more.

  36. Park Diesel
    8:44 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    @25- I don’t think college players should be paid, I’m just throwing this out there though. All the options you listed would be for basketball players only. A football player doesn’t have any of those options.

  37. Football Man
    8:55 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    The opportunity to make something out of yourself! No pay…..

  38. Cornfucious
    10:57 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    Glad to see that me and the ole Ball Coach have more in common. If I’dve earned a Heisman, I’dve unconciously shed my shirt to. Fortunately, he’s got me beat. This is gonna be gross…man…but Dude needs some pasties.

  39. bullish wildcat fan
    11:07 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    The college student athlete is extremely blessed and lucky in getting a full free ride scholarship. Higher education’s #1 priority MUST ALWAYS be about education. Once you open the door to paying a college athlete, the payments will skyrocket faster than A NASA rocket going to the moon!

    If athletes were paid, I guarantee you the college student athlete payment would increase by 1000% or more within 10 years. And who really pays for this, the ticket holder of college sports… If you want to watch a pro athlete playing for a living, stick with the NFL, & the NBA etc…..

    PS: KSR Rocks!

  40. flemingcountycat
    11:34 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    All students who participate in NCAA sanctioned sports should be given a stipend. This money should come from a portion of NCAA and conference TV contracts, Jersey and merchandise sales that bear names or likenesses of the student, EA Sports, and others, who uses names and or likenesses of the student. So, when a Randall Cobb #18 jersey, a College Basketball 2K12 video game, or CBS re-ups on a broadcast TV deal, a portion or the revenue goes into a fund, to which everyone who participates in NCAA sports gets an even cut, the swimmer at EKU, the golfer at MSU, and the point gaurd at UK. THIS IS NOT PAYING PLAYERS, its giving students back what they helped generate. I agree, “paying” players game checks is a ridiculous idea, it would only lead to more corruption, and you can’t just pay a cut to Randall Cobb for selling his jersey or putting Cam Newton on the cover of a video game. How is the way the NCAA profits off of its participants any different than how horse racing interests profit off the horse? The players and the horse each receive food, lodging, medical care, and training.

  41. bullish wildcat fan
    11:55 pm June 5, 2011 Permalink

    What about equal opportunity? Do 100% of all UK have access to the privileged tutoring at the CAT’S Academic Center for Athletes?? Am I being discriminated because I am not a college student athlete???? All college students deserve similar treatment giving to collegiate athletes on scholarship…. Being in college is not the same as being in the NBA or the NFL. Wake up and smell the coffee.

  42. john mcdonald
    12:16 am June 6, 2011 Permalink

    I firmly believe that paying college student, other than a full ride scholarship, enough is enough..

  43. UKrifle>WVUrifle
    9:01 am June 6, 2011 Permalink

    I think you are looking at 2 separate issues here:

    a) College kids are not pros, so there should be no “individuals” in a college “team” sport. Using individual names and likenesses should not be allowed until after a kid leaves college. You are saying in essence that an 18 year old kid has the maturity to handle unwarranted self adulation. Sure it is heady stuff for the kid, but it has no reality in life after college sports.

    b) Not to call Matt Jones out, but I would go a step further. Chadboski threw out a number close to 1,500 PER GAME for a UK ride. I feel sure as Matt went to duke he knows what that translates to there. UK has got to be way cheaper than duke to attend, so I am guessing that PER GAME number there, or any private school, is going to be much higher. I would go the opposite way to say that any kid that opted for an early exit had to repay the balance of their scholarship back to their college before being allowed to play in their first pro game. Student loans follow you for life, so why do we let kids off so easily just because they play college sports?

  44. aka
    10:01 am June 6, 2011 Permalink

    here is the bigger question. say you do pay them, if the kid does not live up to the potential, can you release him and have the scholarship back? Do you pay Boogie more than Harrelson? Paying them isn’t as simple as just paying them.

  45. Lloyd christmas
    12:50 pm June 6, 2011 Permalink

    I guess you all don’t know any players, football players get a pretty solid stipend around a G a month

  46. Lloyd christmas
    12:53 pm June 6, 2011 Permalink

    41 you can’t dunk shut up