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Pat Forde Joins the UNC Chorus


It may have taken some time (too much time in my humble opinion) but the chorus of voices on the UNC academic scandal have increased. The latest is Pat Forde of Yahoo, who has taken some time away from giddily tweeting about seeing World Wide Wes and now writes that the UNC case will be an interesting test for the NCAA’s new authority it has given itself. There is an old legal saying that “bad facts make bad law,” and some believe that the NCAA’s decision to go against its rule book policy and appoint itself as almighty judge in the Penn State case could have negative effects on other cases. And as Forde points out, this could be just such a case. Will the NCAA come in and be judge, jury and executioner. If it wants to be consistent, it will.

But when has the NCAA ever been consistent? I guess we will find out.

Article written by Matt Jones

24 Comments for Pat Forde Joins the UNC Chorus

  1. Golfer
    3:40 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    Nice nipple shot.

  2. UKBlue
    3:47 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    Reporters don’t have a choice now, the story is out so they now have to say something; if they don’t say anything, they look even dumber than normal.

  3. Mike
    3:53 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    I’m thinking a fitting punishment for the basketball program would be a 1 year ban from appearing on television, a 2 year postseason ban, and a scholarship reduction down to 10. Also, some banners need to come down more than likely. The football program should flat out get the death penalty for a year.

  4. asdf
    3:59 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    “New authority” post-Penn State or not, the NCAA still has the same problem it has had for decades: they way they apply their rules is VERY arbitrary, which inevitably breeds unfairness and corruption.

  5. Mike
    4:02 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    By the way, that Forde article is kind of weak and not the reaction I think anyone around here was hoping for. Its more about the NCAA subverting due process bypassing the rules. It should be about what UNC did and how they should deal with the consequences.

  6. Mike
    4:05 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    4) Exactly right. The NCAA bases most of its decisions on national opinion it seems. When the media decides it wants to blow a story up, then the NCAA gets involved.

  7. randomer
    4:09 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    this is the key point:

    ” But when has the NCAA ever been consistent? ”

    Everyone always talks about the NCAA better be careful setting a certain ‘precedent’. News flash: THE NCAA HAS NEVEEERRR FOLLOWED PRECEDENT. NEVER. They will address this however they think it best serves their interests and move on and in a few months no one will even be talking about it anymore.

  8. Al's IndiCats
    4:11 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    To say Emmert and the NCAA has done anything in the past about those “Golden Boys” are just pissing up a rope. The Maggett fiasco are still on the books and it’s been better than 10 years since that has occured. So to say the NCAA will investigate Roy Williams and UNC, I say a Rabbi has a better chance of becoming the next pope.

  9. Rick
    4:42 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    This is the SECOND article on the nc scandal that FORDE has written. Also wrote one on July 17th…..not hard to find that one out with google, etc. Seriously, do a little bit of simple work……………

  10. UKChillfan
    4:52 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    Two things, Matt, when has the NCAA not been the judge, jury and executioner? That’s been one of my main complaints about the organization. Two, they (NCAA) will do nothing, nothing, bank on it.

  11. Suffo-Cats
    5:18 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    Way to jump on the bandwagon after everyone else Forde. Might have joined sooner if he wasn’t so busy reporting on World Wide Wes’ skidmarked undies.

  12. Elaine Benes
    6:03 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    Just like my Christmas Card.

  13. Hal
    6:39 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    9- july 17th article doesn’t show up on his yahoo page with all his other articles. you gotta actually google it. weird……

  14. Dane Brammage
    6:55 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    I submit that it is highly probable that Bubba Cunningham had a certain transcript posted purposefully in order to nix the never-ending-scandal and thus becoming the ‘Savior AD’: St. Bubba.

    The Tarnished Heels will never reel nor feel the steal of anything won, much less a championship banner.

    Furthermore, as much as I would enjoy seeing the heels rot in, well, N.C., I shall throw no rock from the house that Rupp built.

  15. Kiddekat
    7:22 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    I’m afraid this is much ado about nothing. It hasn’t been that long ago when the Duke “thing” hit the internet. It seems Duke players were graduating without ever having attended class. It was the same type of curriculum: they recieved credit for living in a non-white community, atttending classes with minority students, etc. Except for an occasional paper they sometimes submitted, they did no class work at all.
    I’m sure if the NCAA comes down on NC, the folks in Chapel Hill will insist the NCAA relook at the Duke situation, which they avoided like the plague initially. They are not about to do that, so fagetaboutit!
    Like the Magette thing, it will not even warrant a slap on the wrist. Now if it had to do with Kentucky or Calipari . . .

  16. Mike CB
    7:33 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    Having lived on the exulted East Coast for many years now, I think I have figured out how these decisions are made. The question the media and the NCAA ask is this: Do a lot of New Yorkers and/or affluent east coast WASPs go to the school? If so, the NCAA and the talking heads do nothing. Duke and North Carolina are schools where the East Coast elite have sent their kids for years. And even though Penn State is technically in an eastern state, it has always been looked down upon by the elites (it’s located in “Alabama” part of Pennsylvania). That’s why Corey Magette can hire an agent and Duke is not punished, while Cal gets jammed up by the NCAA and the media over Derrick Rose, who was cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse to play ball. If UK had shuffled hundreds of football and basketball players through bogus “Afro studies” classes, this issue would be page one news all over the country. Instead, it’s being swept under the rug.

  17. Devil's Advocate
    8:13 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    Thanks Mike CB. I appreciate your perspective. Yet, I have to ask: How do we know with 100% certainty that KENTUCKY has not provided similar ‘paths’ for ‘student’ athletes, particularly the one-and-done athlete?

  18. Mr. Blackwell
    8:29 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    NCAA wants to stay far away from this because one of their national champions(UNC 2009)could be involved. They do not want to be in a position to have to possibly vacate a national champion. See KU & Memphis in 2008 as example. Memphis doesn’t win title and vacates all of its wins. KU wins title and nothing happens vis a vis the fishy Darrell Arthur situation.

  19. UL2UK8
    9:02 pm August 17, 2012 Permalink

    Florida St. had to give up 2 years of football wins for a lesser problem.

  20. duh
    12:58 am August 18, 2012 Permalink

    Mr Blackwell, I agree with you. The NCAA does hate to get involved when the National Championship is involved. Especially if the team involved is one of their “darlings”. They will never do anything to UNC, Duke or Kansas…or even UCONN for that matter. We all know Calhoun is as dirty as they come and he has never had to vacate anything. We know UCONN doesn’t make the grade (low APR) but where is that old fart Bob Knight saying they don’t go to class? It is just a double standard.

  21. Bulldawg
    2:02 am August 18, 2012 Permalink

    buck fob knight!!!! I could go the rest of my life without hearing his name and live a happier life because of it.

  22. bluedave
    8:39 am August 18, 2012 Permalink

    #17. This is not about UK being fraudulent. All about UNC doing bad things.

  23. randomer
    10:37 am August 18, 2012 Permalink

    Why is it that the reporters and insiders – the people that should know the most about the situation – are always wrong about these situations.

    “Oh Lord!!! What is the NCAA gonna do!!?? The precedent!! The precedent they hav to follow!!!”

    They’re not going to do a damn thing because they don’t want to, and when they don’t, the ‘journalists’ who were wrong about it are the first ones to stop asking questions and move on, rather than get some answers. So annoying.

  24. 100111010101
    10:38 am August 18, 2012 Permalink

    Forde is still a biased douche… but I agree with this article.

    NCAA had no buisness getting involved wight the PennSt. issue. Now it’s opened pandora’s box… one (I hope) leads to Emmert’s firing.