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A Look At What Coaches Do The Best With Elite 5 Star Recruits

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Over the past five years, John Calipari has developed a reputation as the best recruiter in the nation. Since coming to Kentucky, he’s pulled in the number one class five years in a row. But, how big is the gap between Cal and the rest of the pack? I decided to put some cold hard numbers behind Cal’s case as the best coach to get players ready for the NBA.

I started with the top eight coaches still in the game: John Calipari, Mike Krzyzewski, Roy Williams, Bill Self, Billy Donovan, Tom Izzo, Rick Pitino and Jim Boeheim. This group includes the coaches who over the past decade have gotten the most 5 star talent to come to their school and who are still coaching at that school (thus no Ben Howland). I looked up all of the 5-star recruits they’ve brought in during the past decade and how each of those recruits fared in the NBA Draft (or, if they went undrafted). Picking 5 star talent is not a perfect indicator, as their are obviously differences between a player ranked #1 and those ranked #20 (where 5 star rankings usually end). But it is the best indicator of elite status and the players that most all of the top programs focus on recruiting. Because the 2013 draft hasn’t happened yet, I excluded the 2012 class, and developed a point system to determine which coach is most successful in getting players to the league.

The NBA Prep Point System

0 = Undrafted
1 = Drafted in the second round
2 = Drafted in the first round
3 = Lottery pick
4 = Top 5
5 = Number one pick

SIS = Still in school
D-2013 = Declared for 2013 draft

Why the different levels? I awarded zero points to players that came in as 5-stars and left school without being drafted. To me, that shows a lack of preparation by their coach for the league. This could also include players who were not drafted, but signed with a team later on.

I awarded one point to players who were drafted in the second round, since they do not receive guaranteed contracts. Two points go to players drafted in the first round, but not in the lottery, since those players receive guaranteed multi-year contracts. Three points to players selected in the lottery, or picks one through fourteen, and four points to player picked in the top five. The money payout for the top five picks is significantly more than the rest of the lottery picks, as is the pressure to go pro if that’s your projection. I awarded five points to players who went first because of the notoriety and money that comes with it, as well as the bragging rights that go to the school. I took the average of the players’ NBA Prep rank and assigned them to each coach. That number shows, on average, where each five-star recruit that plays for that coach goes in the NBA Draft.

The results

1. John Calipari, Kentucky/Memphis

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Not surprisingly, Cal came out on top, in both his time at Kentucky, and the average of his two tenures at Memphis and UK. What Cal did at Memphis was impressive; on average, the five-star recruits he brought in went somewhere between picks 14-30, but what he is doing at Kentucky is astounding. Not only does Cal have the most five-star recruits in the past decade, he also has the most five-star recruits in the league, and the highest-ranked in the draft. That means five star recruits that come to UK under Calipari are ON AVERAGE PICKED IN THE LOTTERY. That is remarkable.

Keep in mind that Patrick Patterson was not included because he was technically a Tubby Smith/Billy Gillispie recruit, and Nerlens Noel and Archie Goodwin aren’t eligible because the 2013 draft hasn’t happened yet. If those numbers were included (with Patterson going in lottery and presumably Noel being the first pick), Calipari’s score would rise.

2. Roy Williams, North Carolina

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On average, Roy Williams’ five-star recruits are drafted just outside the lottery, likely between picks 20-25. Cal and Roy are by far the two most successful coaches in getting their players to the league, and from there, it is a big dropoff.

3. Billy Donovan, Florida

Donovan-NPR

Considering that Billy Donovan’s most successful NBA players were actually four-stars (Al Horford, Joakim Noah), his NBA Prep rank was still pretty high, thanks in large part to Bradley Beal. Donovan doesn’t land a lot of five-star recruits, but when he does, he succeeds in getting them to the league, on average in the second round.

4. Mike Krzyzewski, Duke

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Coach K’s most successful NBA player is the one that went to the draft after one year (Kyrie Irving), which throws a little salt on his anti-one-and-done stance. The players that do stick around for a few years at Duke end up going from the mid-first round to early second, which would give him a higher average if Demarcus Nelson, Greg Paulus, and Brian Zoubek hadn’t gone undrafted.

T5. Bill Self, Kansas

Self-NPR

* JR Giddens was recruited to Kansas by Roy Williams, but Bill Self persuaded him to stay when he was hired. Dave Padgett was also a member of Kansas 2003 class, but transferred to Louisville after his freshman year.

Bill Self came to Kansas in 2003 after Roy Williams left for North Carolina, and really hit his stride in 2005 with the Mario Chalmers, Brandon Rush, and Julian Wright class. Sherron Collins going undrafted hurt his rank, but Xavier Henry helped boost it, as will Andrew Wiggins. But on the whole, the performance of Bill Self with top players is surprisingly disappointing.

T5. Jim Boeheim, Syracuse

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Boeheim’s early five-stars weren’t drafted, which really hurt his average. The rest of his five-stars have all gone in the first round, with Jonny Flynn being his highest five-star player drafted since Carmelo Anthony, at #6. Since Anthony was from the class of 2002, he was not included in the study.

7. Tom Izzo, Michigan State

Izzo-NPR

Izzo has a reputation for recruiting three or four year players, which is reflected in his NBA Prep rankings. His only five-star player drafted was Shannon Brown, way back in 2003.

8. Rick Pitino, Louisville

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Rick Pitino’s five-star recruits have been all over the place, with four going undrafted, one going late in the lottery, and Derrick Caracter barely squeaking into the second round in 2010.

Conclusion: The Kentucky Effect is a fact

Based on these numbers, John Calipari is not only the best recruiter in college basketball, he’s also the most successful when it comes to getting his players drafted. On average during his time at UK, he has turned five-star recruits into lottery picks. Even more, he’s helped several four-star recruits get there as well. Also these numbers seem to me to send a message to elite 5 star high school recruits. If you are in that group and want to be a high NBA Draft pick, Kentucky and North Carolina, based on track record, are the clear and obvious choices as destinations. My guess is that most schools don’t show these numbers to incoming players, but if I were John Calipari (and secondarily Roy Williams), I think I would. It is clear UK, followed by UNC, are the best places for the best of the best to reach the NBA.

Article written by Mrs. Tyler Thompson

No, I will not make you a sandwich, but you can follow me on Twitter @MrsTylerKSR or email me.

91 Comments for A Look At What Coaches Do The Best With Elite 5 Star Recruits



  1. Hays C.
    2:17 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Fantastic breakdown!



  2. SoCal Will
    2:20 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    This would be persuasive to me if my son were choosing. Do the analysis again next year and the gap will be a canyon….



  3. Count Blockula
    2:22 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Looks like Mrs. TT is giving her best Jonathan Schuette impersonation, and killing it too



  4. Charles
    2:23 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Every top recruit that Cal has brought to UK was already NBA ready. The only exceptions were Teague, and now Wiltjer and the rest of the Robert Morris punching bags that stayed. Every lottery pick that Cal has produced would have been lottery picks without Cal’s coaching.



  5. Feesh
    2:23 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    How much time did you spend preparing data to prove out what everyone already knows? John Calipari is the greatest coach in the history of basketball and it aint even close yall.



  6. knightynight
    2:24 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    chew on a stump Charles



  7. IfIonlyhadabrain
    2:25 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    #4 – hater, suck it!

    we’re number ONE AND now I’m DONE!



  8. Oh, Really?
    2:26 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    4 – Did you have to dust off the talking points memo to come up with that?



  9. RUPPS_rhetoric
    2:27 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Solid Work TT!



  10. gossie21
    2:29 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Did Dajuan Wagner fall outside the 10 year mark? I was just wondering why he wasn’t included.

    Also, the average draft position on the UNC recruits listed is 12.

    Frankly there isn’t even a debate about which coach will get kids to the NBA. Some might have been lottery picks anyways, but Cal doesn’t hold them back.



  11. Blue Orleans?
    2:29 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Great analytical blog Mrs. T; Should be posted everywhere!



  12. Accuracy Police
    2:30 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Carmelo Anthony, Syracuse, 5-star, picked 3rd in the draft. How can you miss that?

    **For the record, I hate everything Syracuse. But, that’s a pretty big miss.



  13. Josh
    2:32 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Great post!



  14. mirv
    2:32 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Very well done on this one – I know I have wanted to see this data for a while now.

    I would also be curious to see who has put the most non-5star players into rd1 and / or lottery



  15. Mrs. Tyler Thompson
    2:32 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    12 – The study only goes back to 2003. Carmelo was class of 2002.



  16. Unemployed Accuracy Police
    2:35 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    I was thinking Draft class. Not Recruiting class. My apologies.



  17. Blanton
    2:37 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Nerlens and Archie say, where are we?



  18. CoachKblows
    2:38 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Where is Patrick Patterson



  19. Ridge Runner
    2:38 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    This is very interesting and really puts what we have thought into specific data for fact. Excellent.



  20. Facts on Facts
    2:39 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    4 of Kentuckys incoming freshman are projected to go 4th, 6th, 7th and 26th in the 2014 draft. If they all fall 10 spots, will Cal be at fault?



  21. Oogie
    2:40 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    The Coach K result gives some support to the idea that simply committing to Duke tends to give a player a boost in the ratings.



  22. BiloxigUy
    2:41 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    You calculated UK’s wrong. You took the average of the two separate years to get the overall average. You should have taken the average of all 14 or 15 players as a group.



  23. The Real JD
    2:41 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Is this a BTI post? Cause BTI SUUUUUUUCKS!



  24. Bledsoe
    2:43 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    I don’t think I was a 5-star recruit. However, I did get Sh*t right!



  25. Robics Tan
    2:45 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    L1C4 never made more sense, Louisville first card forever cause you will never be a knick pacer or celtic if u go there, wasn’t samardo the number one hs player in the nation, and not could he not even get into the lottery but he couldn’t even get drafted



  26. M
    2:45 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Coach K should stop recruiting 5 star white players I guess lol.



  27. STEVE!
    2:48 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    4 – Nobody thought Bledsoe, Orton, or Teague would be one-and-dones, and some even thought Cousins would be here two years. Apparently, the NBA thought Cal had developed them. Bottom line is: Cal has NO Undrafted Flops at UK, while all of the other coaches except Williams have had multiple ones. Also, please explain who developed Harralson, Liggins, and Miller to the point they would become draft picks.



  28. STEVE!
    2:50 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    I don’t think Pitino should get credit for Derrick Caracter. He transferred to UTEP and was drafted from there. That makes Pitino’s record even worse.



  29. Charles
    2:51 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    It’s apparent that the regulars of this site have never played sports at any level. Smh



  30. Mrs. Tyler Thompson
    2:52 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    22 – Good catch, correction made. Thanks!



  31. TheDon
    2:56 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Slight correction. If you add up all the Memphis and KY players and points together, you get 45 points for 15 recruits (omitting Wiltjer) for a nice round 3 average.



  32. BigBoyBlue
    2:56 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Look I respect the piece and the info but what about average ranked players who excel? Take Draymond Green out of Mich St. for example. Plus Gary Harris is a SIS player who should be on their list. Oh, Thomas Robinson was omitted for KU.
    Just b/c you are rated high don’t mean squat. Like #14 said it is more intriguing to learn who made the adjustment/rotation on a NBA team that was a 3-4*.
    That said, I wouldn’t trade Cal and his *5 star getting and marketing genius butt for anyone.



  33. BiloxigUy
    3:06 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    30- It’s all good, baby gurl.



  34. Ridge Runner
    3:06 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Ms T… Just a thought but heck, look at the bonus pts he would get for getting players such as Jorts & even D.Miller drafted as high as he did. Yeah, I know another subject…another day.
    😉

    Again, great job on this specific one.



  35. Matt Jones
    3:11 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    #32 what about them? That is a different piece and analysis all together…which someone is welcome to do. This is about elite players.

    That is like eating chocolate cake and asking, “WHY IS THIS NOT SPAGHETTI???”



  36. Satan spotter
    3:12 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    .666 ? OMG Pitino really is the anti-Christ.



  37. cardfan
    3:12 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    You should also look at projected draft class and adjust ratings based on that.. If a player like Terrance jennings who I doubt was projected in the draft coming out of high school and was just a big athletic guy who dominated high school because of it hurts louisville how can you give cal credit for wall, davis and all the other guys who were already projected number 1 before attending college… good recruiter, poor coach, we saw that this year…



  38. M
    3:13 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    #32) I thought the same thing. However, if you’re a 5 star recruit trying to decide between the schools listed, this is good information.



  39. gossie21
    3:14 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    32. The reason we look at 5* recruits is because that’s who Calipari targets and lands. I think Bill Self has done a heck of a job with his high 4* recruits: The Morris Twins, T-Rob, and McElmore…. But 4* and 3* players have a much lower rate of making the NBA than 5* players.

    Plus it helps to refute the argument that these kids would have been drafted high without the help of Calipari. While that is undoubtedly true with some. The overwhelming body of evidence shows that Calipari gets his 5* kids to the league while other coaches do not do as well.



  40. M
    3:15 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    #37) Was T. Jennings a 5 star recruit?



  41. mudcreekmark
    3:15 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    32) If you don’t this rating mean shit, just go to rivals and look at the past classes. You will recognize most of the top ten to fifteen players in each class because most of them are in the NBA. Now look at players ranked below 50 and see if you know anybody. Sure there are a few that makes it that weren’t ranked in the top 20 put very few. Take a few minutes and look for yourself.



  42. gossie21
    3:18 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    37) Then I guess Pitino is a average recruiter/poor coach by what we saw in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2010, and 2011? I mean if we are just going to judge a coach by what he does in a year when he fails to make a minimum of the elite-8, then Pitino at UofL has much more data to draw from than Calipari at UK.



  43. cardfan
    3:20 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Wait #42. How can Pitino be so great and still make the NIT two times while at UL? I just don’t understand. If I’m going to bash Cal I need to avoid facts. Stop it.



  44. JD
    3:26 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    In case anyone else was curious: I just did this calculation for Thad Matta and I get a 2.43, which would put him 3rd on this list.



  45. Read the title....
    3:28 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Please read what this article is about. Doesn’t concern many in college bball. It’s about 5 stars. There are few. It talks about what happens to them under 8 diff coaches. No reason to cloud the equation or discussion with variables not considered in this analysis. If we wanted to see who best moved from a 2 star to someone of importance – someone could undertake that.



  46. Zgradden
    3:28 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Let’s play a game, 16 5 star players and only one national championship. Kanter never played at Kentucky, how does Cal get credit for that? Lamb, Orton, Jones, Teague and Knight all stink and weren’t prepared for the NBA by said coach. Rose, Wall, Davis & Kidd-Gilchrist were all STUDS and would have gone #1 (or 2 in Kidd’s case) at any school. I’m tired of all this nonsense.



  47. M
    3:31 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    #46)
    Who do you root for so we can counter?



  48. mudcreekmark
    3:33 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Behanan would have already been in the NBA if he would have went to UK, fact.



  49. Zgradden
    3:34 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    UCONN



  50. mudcreekmark
    3:36 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    C.J. Leslie would have been making money for a couple of years now if he’d went to UK, fact.



  51. mudcreekmark
    3:37 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Shabazz Muhammad would be top pick in 2013 draft if he’d came to UK, fact.



  52. mudcreekmark
    3:40 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Look at the players that turned down Cal and see where they are now. Rodney Purvis? Someone on KSR should look at the recruits that turned down Cal and see how long it has taken them to get to the NBA, or if they are indeed in the NBA or still in school. That will pretty much tell the tale on how good he is at developing players and getting them to the NBA in the shortest amount of time.



  53. Rixter
    3:43 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    If the goal were to take a 5-star recruit and turn them into Israeli League reserves, then Rick Pitino is the KING!



  54. Philuk18
    3:45 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Zgradden…

    This article is about coaches taking players ranked as 5 stars and what number pick they are in the draft. Calipari gets his elite level guys drafted at the highest average position of any of these 8 guys. You can’t possibly argue that, it has just been proven. What they do in the league is largely irrelevant for the purposes of this article, bc it isn’t about that. Also, I find it a bit premature to say Teague stinks after one season where he hardly got to play anyway. Give the kid a few years. Plus, Knight doesn’t really stink either IMO. You’ve got to remember, he’s still just a 21 year old kid on a bad team? It’s always going to be a struggle. Sure he hasn’t been great, but it’s still just two years into his career



  55. Zgradden
    3:48 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Spoken like a true Kentucky fan. Who cares what happens to the kids once they are gone, as long as a) we win games while they are at UK and b) get drafted high we can pound our chests UK UK UK.



  56. M
    3:50 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    To put into perspective the entire Big 10 has 1 championship since 1990. Coach Cal at UK: elite8, Final 4, and a championship in 4 years. He took UMass to the final 4 and Memphis to a championship. Call him the predictable, tired “cheat” as I’m sure you will, but taking UMass to the Final 4 is a huge accomplishment.
    Coach Cal is not finished at UK. Calhoun took 13years at UConn to get one. Yes he had success from that point winning 3. Was Thabeet prepared for the NBA? Is he making millions? How old are Knight, Teague, Lamb, and Jones? Would Lamb have been drafted out of UConn? There really aren’t a lot of UConn NBA players for me to counter with. I guess that’s the counter.



  57. PhilUK18
    3:52 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Plus, 16 5 star guys and just one title? You’re really going to throw that out there? Ok, I’ll bite. First of all, your premise is wrong from the start because he’s had 12 5 stars at UK, as the chart clearly shows. The other 4 were at Memphis. Don’t worry, it’s tough sometimes to understand extremely basic charts.

    It’s been 1 title in 4 years, with trips to an Elite 8 and Final 4 in 2 of those other years. That’s an incredible record. To say anything else is just being a hater and delusional. Most coaches would kill to have a 25% record of winning the title at their current school.



  58. PhilUK18
    3:53 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    When did I say that I don’t care what happens to them? I’m saying it’s not relevant for the purposes of this article that you’re commenting on. Spoken like a true UConn fan, can’t read or understand what he’s reading. Are you sure you didn’t actually play for the team and bring down their APR?



  59. KembaWalker
    3:57 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    I iz da gudest playa in NBA! Calhooon is bester than Calliapiari too! Cunnecticut fanz iz nice to me and relly smart!



  60. bill
    3:59 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Eric Bledsoe wasn’t a 5 star



  61. KembaWalker
    4:01 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    60.

    Yes, Bledsoe was a 5 star, according to Rivals rankings anyway.

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Eric-Bledsoe-63746



  62. bill
    4:08 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    61…my bad he was…for some reason I thought he wasn’t



  63. PhilUK18
    4:09 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    And I’m sure you’ve retreated back to the bridge that you live under by now Zgradden, but if you’re “tired of this silliness” as you claim in your first post, why don’t you just stop visiting UK fan sites? We certainly don’t care about your program. I mean really, why hate something that’s so clearly inferior?



  64. Sito
    4:14 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    With Cal as our coach even a first round NIT loss to Rober Morris wasn’t so bad
    It seems like it was part of some grand plan



  65. Jim Harris
    4:21 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Hey, let’s not give Charles such a bad time. What he says is so intuitively correct that it’s hard to argue with. Cal’s top recruits this year will do well in the draft and in NBA play. Where Cal is separated from the “boys” here is in his ability to recognize and then win over the kind of player who will go on to NBA success. It’s not taking away from Cal to say that any of the top coaches could win with Cal’s players, because Cal got them and those other guys didn’t. Recruiting ability was still seen as one of the top coaching requirements last time I noticed. To me it’s perfectly ok to suggest that Cal is so great in the recruiting facet of coaching that we may never really know just how good a teaching floor coach he is.

    I do think that even at his advanced age in coaching, we’ve seen Cal learn a most valuable lesson last year: don’t let the Bench get so thin that you can’t use it as a teaching tool.



  66. Matt Jones
    4:21 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    We will be broadcasting from Floyd County tommorow with special guest Charles Ramsey

    In the first hour a lucky caller will win a one year supply of Egg White McMuffins

    In the second hour we a giving away a special UK edition Vespa



  67. nookinpanub
    4:25 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    TT, wow that had to take o lot of work. the things you do for us. noice job!



  68. Ground Beef Lesbian
    4:28 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Any ladies looking for a date?



  69. Boogie
    4:29 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Jabari Parker will outplay Andrew Wiggins when Duke faces Kansas early in November. Don’t belie meh juh watch.



  70. Confused
    4:42 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Did I miss something, or did the article say: “This group includes the coaches who over the past decade have gotten the most 5 star talent to come to their school and who are still coaching at that school,” and then talk about Calipari, who started the period in Memphis and does not still coach at Memphis?



  71. PhilUK18
    4:48 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    71.

    Wiltjer is excluded in the averaging of points accrued, as were all players that are still in school. 34/11 = 3.0909



  72. PhilUK18
    4:49 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    71.

    Sorry, didn’t mean you, the comment I was replying to has been deleted. I was actually also confused by that part you mentioned.



  73. notacarolinafan
    5:15 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    What about mcants, may, and felton from roy williams’s first year? Weren’t they 5 star players?



  74. The Real Smitty
    5:18 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    In fairness this is a somewhat flawed poll. How many of these guys (all schools) would have been first rounders out of high school? That determination would be a better monitor of which coach “got them to the league.”



  75. The Real Smitty
    5:20 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Also Kanter never played for anyone. Fair is fair



  76. RED TIL I'M DEAD
    5:35 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    HEY PROUD TO SEE YOU GUYS STILL USING LOUISVILLE TO GAUGE JUST HOW GOOD YOU ARE. I LOVE KSR (smooch)



  77. Han
    5:46 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    4) Yup, because guys like Josh Selby at Kansas who were top 10 in their class ended up lottery picks. All likely lottery picks always end up lottery picks. No coaching needed.

    Xavier Henry barely made the lottery, too.

    32) Developing players and getting them drafted is an entirely different issue. This analysis is showing why highly ranked players wishing to be drafted high should come to Kentucky over those other teams.

    It would also be an entirely different analysis to look at how long drafted players stay in the league, how often they’re all stars, etc. And all of that still ignores when players were expected to stay in school longer because of issues but still got drafted.



  78. Han
    5:47 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    77) Just keep pretending college basketball didn’t exist before last year and won’t exist next year. Then your wonderland will stay perfect forever.



  79. PhilUK18
    5:48 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    75.

    On the flip side of that, look at people like Josh Selby, who probably would have been a first rounder out of high school and slipped into the second bc of his poor play in his first and only year at KU.



  80. Shame on Matt
    5:48 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    So Matt is coming to Floyd County to buddy up to the biggest criminal in Kentucky, Eric C. Conn. Shame on you Matt. Eric C. Conn is flying a true American hero,Charles Ramsey of the Cleveland kidnapping case, in to exploit his sudden fame for Eric’s own good. If you haven’t heard, Eric C. Conn had a judge in his pocket that was getting all of his SSI cases and approving them at 99.7% rate when the national average is about a sixty percent award rate. The judge went as far as stealing Conn’s cases off of other judges desks. Eric C. Conn is the scum of the earth. He once bragged that the fast food restaurants around here wouldn’t have enough people to work them because he was going to sign everyone in eastern KY up on SSI. He is nothing but a thief for stealing money from a system that was set up for people who really are disabled. You are lying with a filthy dog Matt, I hope you get fleas.



  81. BigBoyBlue
    6:05 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Hey Matt Jones… sometimes I like spaghetti on my chocolate cake. That’s my ridiculous manner!



  82. STEVE!
    6:19 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    77 – yes, we love to use Louisville to gauge how we’re doing. For examples, 5 more NCAA Championships; 414 more all-time victories; 30 wins to UL’s 15 in the series, including 4 of the last 5 and 7 of the last 10, .762 all-time winning percentage to UL’s .661, etc. Thanks for being such a good gauge for us.



  83. STEVE!
    6:22 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Zgradden, we can also pound our chests and say APR! APR! APR! and GPA! GPA! GPA!, something with which UCONN fans and players are unfamiliaar.



  84. Megatronman
    7:14 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Love the post TT!! Very fun read. But you need to adjust coach k’s as well. Eliot Williams was not drafted out of duke. He transferred to Memphis and finished school there. Loved it. Keep up the good work



  85. Megatronman
    7:17 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    I mean he was drafted out of memphis



  86. njCat
    7:30 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    No Thomas Robinson?



  87. John Calipari
    7:41 pm May 23, 2013 Permalink

    Im pretty damn good …arnt I bbn??



  88. ThomasRobinson
    4:17 am May 24, 2013 Permalink


  89. To 55
    10:45 am May 24, 2013 Permalink

    @55 uconn fan- if we don’t care what happens to our kids after they play for UK, why would we even care about this article?



  90. SuiSid3l
    10:54 am May 24, 2013 Permalink

    How convenient that you didnt calculate all of Cals players and find an average….b/c his is 2.81 and not 3 which puts him 2nd behind Roy. You took the average of the two years which is the wrong way to do it. If your gonna make a biased list at least do the math correctly.