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Negative Charges

So, does anyone else get the terrible feeling of frustration that makes you want to rip your hair from your skull and throw remotes/dogs/children at the television when a Wildcat player is called for a charge?

I thought so.

It’s quite aggravating, even when it is rightfully called.  When a UK guy (and this happens often under Coach Cal teams due to the offensive philosophy) ducks his head and drives wildly at the rim and gets whistled for a foul, I’m pretty perturbed.  When the referee gets it wrong, I’m also upset of course, but I try to brush it off as one of the ten bad calls I expect from officials per game.  Apparently, we, along with Calipari, may have been judging the referees’s calls wrong the entire time.  This LHL article quotes the NCAA National Men’s Basketball Officiating Coordinator on the increasing amount of charge whistle against Kentucky.  That man is John Adams (no, not the Paul Giamatti version), and he had this to say:

“To draw a charge, all a defender has to do is face his opponent (and) have both feet on the floor for an instant,” Adams said. “After which, he can move to maintain legal guarding position.”

“Most people will tell you, ‘He was moving!’” Adams said. “It’s irrelevant. … There’s no standard of being set at the time of contact.”

The Wildcats have racked up 39 charge calls against the compared to drawing a mere 9.  This large discrepancy is occurring for two reasons:

1) The amount of charges drawn is low because this Kentucky team goes for the block instead of setting up for charges in the paint.  Davis and Jones go immediately for blocks, and they are often successful.  As Beez has pointed out, the unsuccessful block attempts have led to garbage buckets fro the other team often (Auburn’s Chubb, for example).

2) The amount of charges whistled against Kentucky is due to Calipari’s insistence on driving the basketball – repeatedly and hard.  That’s a good philosophy when done correctly.  Normally, you draw a ton of fouls on the other team and you can get closer shots/dunks.  Unfortunately for these Cats, it’s turned into a lot of sloppy half-court ball and offensive fouls.

I, myself, am I fan of pulling up for the midrange jumper, but Coach Cal wants his guys going all the way to the rim and drawing contact.  The midrange game is a lost art that both Darius Miller and Doron Lamb are quite skilled at.  Teague is, as well, but for some reason he struggles to hit that shot in the game (partially due to him second guess the shot because he’s been told to drive the ball, I’d bet).  Apparently Coach Cal was wrong about the charge rule, too.  When notified that he had been mistaken about what is a legal defender in the lane and what is not, Calipari said this:

“If I’m in motion to shoot and (the defender) slides under me, but I haven’t left my feet yet, that is a charge?” Calipari said. “Maybe that clears it up a little bit with all of us, me included. …

“Then, all right, then we’ll slip in there (also).”

So the mystery of the charge calls against Kentucky has been solved…sorta.  Plenty of the calls have been atrocious this year and plenty have been deserved by reckless play.  Even if Adams’ explanation was still a bit vague and not how the refs are calling it, at least we know we were a bit wrong about the rule.

Article written by Chris Thomas

27 Comments for Negative Charges

  1. Jmmorris
    6:08 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink


  2. Feet
    6:09 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    Feet really don’t even have to be on the floor. The defender has from the floor to the ceiling. If I jump straight up and get ran over then it would be a charge also.

  3. My other brother Darrel
    6:16 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    My wife charges a lot also…

  4. ktmiln2
    6:16 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    2. I came to say that. You stole my thunder.

  5. WLOY
    6:24 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    “Then, all right, then we’ll slip in there (also).” – That’s what (s)he said

  6. CommonSense
    6:32 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    Uhh…they need to re-watch the Tennessee game; none of those were charges.

  7. ebell55
    6:46 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    We got bad charge calls against Marquette and UAB under Tubby in key moments against Antwan Barber.

  8. Mr Schwump
    6:47 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    College stripes think you’re there to watch them, not great players. As SEC road games occur, expect more odd calls that can’t be explained.

  9. JBedell
    6:47 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    Actually, they’re right. I had no idea, either. The only thing the defender has to do is have 2 feet on the ground before the offensive player leaves the floor.

    Hell, the text of the Charging section doesn’t even dictate that the offender has to have the ball. (Surely I missed something?)


    Section 9. Blocking (in it’s entirety)
    Art. 1. Blocking is illegal personal contact that impedes the progress of an opponent.

    Section 12. Charging (in it’s entirety)
    Art. 1. Charging is illegal personal contact by pushing or moving into an
    opponent’s torso.

    Section 35. Guarding (select Articles)
    Art. 1. Guarding shall be the act of legally placing the body in the path of an offensive opponent. The guarding position shall be initially established and then maintained inbounds on the playing court.

    Art. 3. Every player shall be entitled to a spot on the playing court, provided that such player gets there first without illegally contacting an opponent. (Exception: Rule 4-35.7)

    Art. 4. To establish an initial legal guarding position on the player with the ball:
    a. The guard shall have both feet touching the playing court. When the guard jumps into position initially, both feet must return to the playing court after the jump, for the guard to attain a legal guarding position.
    b. The guard’s torso shall face the opponent.
    c. No time and distance shall be required.
    d. When the opponent with the ball is airborne, the guard shall have attained legal guarding position before the opponent left the playing court. (Exception: Rule 4-35.7)

    Art. 7. A secondary defender cannot establish initial legal guarding position in the Restricted Area for the purposes of drawing a player control foul/charge on a player who is in control of the ball (i.e., dribbling or shooting) or who has released the ball for a pass or try for goal. When illegal contact occurs within this Restricted Area, such contact shall be called a blocking foul, unless the contact is flagrant. (Exception: When the offensive player leads with a foot or unnatural extended knee or wards off with the arm.)
    This restriction shall not prohibit a defender, located within the restricted area, from attempting to block a shot.

  10. UKChill Fan
    7:14 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    I can’t define “charge” but I know it when I see it.

  11. JP7
    7:18 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    That’s crap. either the interpretation has been changed or this guy made his own. You can go back years and years in high school and college both and the interpretaion has always been that the defender must be set before the offensive layer leaves the floor. He must establish defensive position and he can’t move into the offensive man’s path once he is set. Maybe they did change the interpretation-if they ddid, that is more crap by the NCAA, who is continually attempting to fix things that aren’t borken. Leave the game alone.

  12. you suck
    7:22 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    Chris Thomas you suck and are clearly an unbelievable douche. kiss my ass.

  13. Lonnieb
    7:40 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    It is also because we have NBA level athletes and that circle is not as big as NBA…… Many instances gilcrest especially has already left for rim prior to defender getting to spot….,, hopefully they make it bigger like NBA so it is not a negative impact on teams with athletic players…. This is a homer comment but think about it……… How many other teams can say they have 1 player that is athletic like jones gilly and Davis. It’s just tough…,. The tenn and iu game stick out. Charges should be blatant not someone sliding in after a more dominant athletic player has already left his feet……

  14. JP7
    7:54 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    It is not fair to give the defense that kind of advantage over a man who is in the air attempting a shot.

  15. The Dude
    7:58 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    Neutron walks into a bar. He asks the bartender how much for a drink. Bartender says, “For you, no charge.”

  16. GapToothDanny
    8:09 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    another (phantom) call that infuriates me is when a player attempts a long jump shot, while wildly flailing about his arms & legs in order to initiate contact. stripes will fall for this almost every time.

  17. Chameleon
    8:34 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    fUKe dUKe

  18. The Fuzz
    9:22 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    How is it possible to call a double foul on a block/charge play?

  19. stevie
    9:30 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    I don’t want some retard coming on here trying to explain why UK is called for charging at a rate that is nearly four and a half times higher than their opponentents. Idiots who do this look stupid, and they make the rest of us look stupid. There is no way in h-ll that this statistic should be so one-sided. If this had to do with race it would be calledracism. If it had to do gender it would be called sexism. Why shouldn’t UK receive the same consideration?

  20. Ted Valentine
    11:11 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    18) Refs will pre-game this call. If the Lead official (baseline) holds a fist up (foul) and immediately puts his hand behind his head (indicating charge), while the Center official (foul line extended) holds fist up and immediately puts hands on hips (indicating block), then we have a problem. Refs are coached to hold their whistle on these types of collisions and defer to the official who has this primary coverage area. In this case — and it’s not the first time ever — the refs tried to sell the call before eyeballing their partner for consensus. It happens. Move on. Geez.

  21. Ricky Bobbie
    11:59 pm January 18, 2012 Permalink

    I had to double check while I was reading to make sure JERRY TIPTON didn’t write this wtf!

  22. Ricky Bobby
    12:01 am January 19, 2012 Permalink

    Correction of bobby spelling ^

  23. Murray66
    12:07 am January 19, 2012 Permalink

    Contact cannot be forced by moving the upper torso into the offensive player without moving your feet, or as a fan would say, “He can’t lean into the offensive player!” That part of taking a charge was not addressed by the explanation given.

  24. WhatSheOrder?FishFilet?
    12:24 am January 19, 2012 Permalink

    Can’t believe no one has said a Ricky P joke re: “sliding in”.

  25. Josh
    1:58 am January 19, 2012 Permalink

    The restricted area underneath the goal was supposed to help this call, but it has instead messed it up instead. Now if a defender is out of the restricted area, then the ref just calls it a charge. They don’t care if the defender was moving or is set. That is not how the refs are supposed to call it, but it’s what they do.

    If it isn’t an obvious charge, then the call should go to the offense, but the refs get caught up in the action and want to be a part of the game.

  26. bornblue
    11:19 am January 19, 2012 Permalink

    I’m pretty certain they did alter the ruling on the charge/block within the last year or two. I like to call it the anti-dribble drive rule, to be nice about it.what really pisses me off is that most of them are where offensive player goes vertical with little contact and defender flops across floor like he got hit by a truck. Sucks!

  27. turkeyblue
    1:11 pm January 19, 2012 Permalink

    7) Karl Hess made the charge call during the Marquette game on Barbour – ruined a basket and a foul that would have got us back in the game with momentum. Karl Hess also made the call on Azibuike during the UAB game that would have resulted in the same thing – game over. They are calling more charges now because they are not willing to see if the defender is set, just outside of the circle. Charge call is wrong 90% of the time – it’s a block in my opinion because the offensive guy has already left his feet and the defender moves/slides in.