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More Coley-to-Kentucky talk

This time it’s from CaneInsider, a Miami Hurricanes website:

Thoughts?

Article written by Drew Franklin

I can recite every line from Forrest Gump, blindfolded. Follow me on Twitter: @DrewFranklinKSR

87 Comments for More Coley-to-Kentucky talk



  1. Jimbo Fisher
    3:51 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    I gotta get outta here too! Can I come to Kentucky and do something?



  2. Chandler
    3:51 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    First! home run!!!



  3. Big Blue 66
    3:52 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    wow…if we pull this off, it will be the first time we have really pulled in a staff that will give us a big time chance….wont happen overnight, but I think 3 or 4 years with this staff, we will make tremendous headway



  4. Mark my words
    3:53 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Within 5 years Kentucky is playing deep into November for chance at SEC East Title and a chance at SEC Championship.



  5. Musehobo
    3:54 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Don’t love the chemistry between what these guys bring, and what we need. But it sounds like these guys are true professionals and they are really good at what they do. I’m on board.



  6. Rumors
    3:55 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    I will believe it when it happens.



  7. DoneDeal
    3:56 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    per Source… this is a done deal!!! BBN



  8. RaleighCat
    3:56 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    #5- WTF are you talking about? Wake up, man, and get off the internet.



  9. RichieFarmer'sMustache
    3:56 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Absolutely awesome if this ends up happening. Now we just need to lock up Randy Shannon as DC, and all will be right in the world.



  10. Funky Monkey
    3:57 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Whether true or not, great tease to keep us excited.



  11. ukfan
    4:00 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    is he the present oc at fsu?



  12. That's Live Action!
    4:01 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    #4, let’s be realistic, this is Kentucky football we’re talking about. We should all be happy if we’re mid pack in the SEC in 5 years. Though we can dream big I guess….



  13. GG
    4:02 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    To make this staff all world, please bring Jim Leavitt as DC.



  14. 'Ville
    4:04 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Maybe Charlie Strong would like a job as a Defensive Coordinator?



  15. St. Paul Raiders
    4:08 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    14 – Let’s not get carried away.



  16. UK 24 7
    4:09 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Someone please tell me what Coley has done at Florida State? I hear Jimbo is the HC/OC all rolled into one. Be a pretty boy on the sidelines maybe? Neal Brown forever!!!



  17. bigbluejon
    4:09 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Rumor is Coley will be AHC and Recruiting Coordinator. Neal Brown as OC



  18. Beavis
    4:10 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Thats it # 12,,,,,accept the mediocre bull we have put up with for years. I don’t think they are spending all this money for us to be a middle of the pack team in five years.



  19. Clearly not
    4:10 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    14) have you not watched Louisville this year? Their defense is atrocious



  20. bornblue
    4:11 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Don,t need a DC.That’ll be our head coach!



  21. DownCline
    4:12 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    With the support Kentucky has, they can realistically be a middle of the SEC pack school and go to a bowl year in and year out, with an occasional year that they challenge for a title and an a occasional year they are in the cellar and miss a bowl.



  22. #12?
    4:12 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    I remember UK football getting up to number 8 in the country, beating number 1 LSU and nearly beating top 5 Florida. It can be done. I think Stoops can do it.



  23. Tej
    4:12 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    This should get the attention of some recruits. It appears the Mitch and UK have really, really made the commitment to football that will let us compete.



  24. tuxedo park
    4:13 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Cane Insider is an unfortunate combination of words.



  25. JLivermore
    4:15 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    If I understood an FSU website correctly last night, Coley didn’t call plays and Fisher had already announced that he was going to name a new OC next year.



  26. yep
    4:15 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Seems to me that no other SEC school is going after Petrino because of his character issues. At least that is what the reports are. So, if he has to many character issues to be the head coach, maybe he will have to start lower and prove that he is a changed person. Maybe take am OC job at a school that is trying to get respect and win back a lot of fan support. Anyone know of a school like that could use an OC with a proven track record of success?



  27. nassau65
    4:16 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    funny how all the Barnhart haters and Petrino nutsacksuckers are absent from KSR now. Perhaps they are in line to buy season tickets.



  28. wkcatsfan
    4:17 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    24. Outstanding. Of course, “unfortunate” depends on if it’s your cane or not.



  29. Han
    4:18 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    22) Yeah, it’s amazing how quickly people have forgotten that. Brooks wasn’t pulling in tons of 5 stars and yet he managed to make Kentucky a threat. We still lost to Florida and Tennessee every year somehow, but he had a couple significant wins, and got us to multiple bowl games in a row. He didn’t then take the next step, but it’s not like Kentucky can never beat a good team.

    25) Yeah, Coley was OC in name only. Remains to be seen what he’ll do if he has the real reins, and also remains to be seen who else we’d have on staff. The name Shannon for DC sounds really good, but that’s only message board wishful thinking so far.



  30. Adolphrollingover
    4:18 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    This is bad. SEC defensive coordinators will eat this guy for breakfast. Sanders will look like a genius.



  31. Mad Monk
    4:19 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    16)Coley has brought in more 4 and 5 star players than UK and TT have combined.



  32. Ville Cat
    4:23 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Lets get this guy, he can recruit and if Stoops has faith in him, I will too. Lastly, lets get Wiggins to commit and call it a day from FL st



  33. AP
    4:25 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    24 and 28 FTW



  34. wheee
    4:26 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    ahhhh the dawn of a new day. Fresh start. New beginnings. LOL, gotta love the bipolar nature of this site. Just reading posts on here the last few weeks, we went from a program beyond repair to a coaching graveyard, to hopeless program with no tradition, history and no chance. Now, it looks like the projections are (HAHAHA) chances for an SEC championship. You guys are like listening to a 4 year old on Christmas Eve. Here’s the bet I’d love to make… ain’t nothing gonna change. Not much anyway. We might jump over Mizzou in the East. We might tussle with Franklin to tie with Vandy for 6th in the SEC East in the next few years. UK is NOT going to compete with Bama/LSU/UGA/FL/USC and probably Tenn. Put down the kool aid and wake up. Just not gonna happen. Now bash me, but write it down and revisit in 3 years. The word then will be “well we can live with 7-5 records, 6th place SEC East finishes, 3-5 league marks, and low level bowls. Stoops is acceptable. Its what we are. When does basketball start?”. Mark. It. Down.



  35. Man of Constant Sorrow
    4:31 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    12 – I don’t think that is unrealistic if (1) Stoops and Coley are able to pull good recruits from FL up here, (2) if this coaching staff stays here that long and doesn’t leave for greener pastures when they begin to win, and (3) Barnhart and UK commit to creating a great football program and doesn’t settle for 7 win seasons. Or i could be completely wrong and Stoops underachieves as head coach and we continue to suck, ha. But I truly believe this coaching staff could have the potential to put UK on the map in football and refuse to believe that UK is destined to be mediocre at best and could never have a good football program.



  36. Yngvie Malmsteen.
    4:32 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    34-Basketball already started you dumbass.



  37. Han
    4:34 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    34) Great prognosticator, did you call the UK victory over LSU?



  38. TheBigToe
    4:37 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    @30–GTFO hater.



  39. wheee
    4:38 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    #37 that’s your comeback?? HAHAHA wow, when was that? 07? How many of those type games came before or since. What about a more typical LSU example? The Guy Morriss gatorade bath on the LSU hail mary at Commonwealth that is replayed MORE than the lark of a game vs. #1? How about UK’s overall football winning % of under .500 for ITS ENTIRE HISTORY? Prognosticate that.



  40. wkcatsfan
    4:39 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Who know if Stoops will work out or not? I think he has a chance to at least take the program a little further than a Grampa Brooks level of respectability if he has the “coat tails” to bring along a good coaching staff. Either way, I think any most UK football fans should feel a hell of a lot more optimistic about the Stoops hire than the ridiculous “coach in waiting” scenario with Joker that no one believed was a good idea — well, except for Barnhart, I guess.



  41. G-Unit
    4:39 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Name to watch:

    Dameyune Craig – Will be QB Coach and Recruiting Coordinator.

    This bodes well for Jalen Whitlow retaining his spot.



  42. Tickle
    4:42 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Anyone hearing anything that Stoops will be reevaluating Gillespie recruits, I mean Jokers recruits and advising them they need to go and play in the OVC



  43. dave
    4:43 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    34-prob right. but let’s be real. only needed a top 40 team to win 6-7 games this year: kent, wku, @mizz, samf and 2-3 Ws between @uofl, @UT, VU, @arky, MSU, UGA



  44. jaws2
    4:45 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    I’d suggest everyone watch the FSU game this weekend. Even though FSU should crush GA Tech, at least we can see possible schemes we’ll be playing in 2013. Also, I’d suggest you watch with an open mind considering the talent level difference in FSU and our Cats. We’re not going to get that talent overnight, so I’ll temper my enthusiasm until we come close to that talent.



  45. Truth
    4:53 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Would Neal Brown even be mentioned by fans if he didn’t play for KY? Coley is a big time recruiter and better assistant than UK has ever had. How many 4-5 star guys has Neal Brown got to TT?



  46. That's Live Action!
    4:57 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    #35, I hope you’re right.
    #22 Mediocrity in the SEC is a success in my book if we’re talking UK football. Even in our golden years(as you remember it) with Brooks the best record we had was 8-5…and our SEC record was 3-5.



  47. J A Brooks
    5:00 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Coley is not an elite OC but were talking a top 5 recruiter nationally .

    None of the current players will be asked to leave .

    Expect the DC to be an elite recruiter as well with less emphasis on being a veteran play caller because Stoops will call most of defensive plays.

    Looks to me like Stoops plan is to bring much better recruits in then we’ve ever had and play old Baltimore ravens football… defense first…win field position… run the ball to set up play action and use a great kicker to take every 3 points we get



  48. Howard S
    5:03 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Get ready to own the state of Miami!



  49. J A Brooks
    5:05 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Biggest shock to everyone’s system will simply be watching a well coached team. I honestly don’t think even UK fans realize how poorly coached this UK football team was.



  50. Al's IndiCats
    5:05 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    There’s always someone that has to rain on every parade. I understand your lack of enthusiasm 39, but before you cut the head off calf, just make sure it doesn’t bark first. You could be pleasently surprised.



  51. Not Nerlens
    5:05 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    I would still take Neal Brown over Coley, but would obviously be happy with either one. I think Coley is by far the better recruiter, but would like seeing Brown’s offense in Lexington much better.

    Jimbo Fisher calls most of the plays at FSU, so that is the downside with Coley as he doesn’t have much experience play calling. He is supposed to be a BEAST of a recruiter last night.



  52. wheee
    5:06 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    #47 If that’s true, that’s not a good recipe. I don’t care if he brings in the best 4 classes UK has ever had, his first 4 years in a row. It will still be ranked in the lower tier of SEC. Didn’t Joker show you that trying to bring players in to play conventional FB in the SEC won’t work for UK?? The only hope to compete is to be unconventional. Spread offense. Playing Baltimore Ravens FB with 3 star recruits vs. Bama/LSU/UGA/USC/TX A&M etc. ain’t gonna work. We will NOT outathlete the traditional SEC powers. Ever.



  53. RICK
    5:07 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    SEC CHAMPIONS



  54. J A Brooks
    5:07 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Next year with a lot of the same players UK will be a lot more competitive. We may not win a lot but you’ll see a major difference in competency



  55. RICK
    5:09 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    #34 GO YELL FOR THE CARDS .



  56. EC
    5:10 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    49) Most insightful comment yet.



  57. J A Brooks
    5:10 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    52) way to miss the point.

    A) way better recruits

    B) way better coaching

    C) way better defense



  58. wheee
    5:11 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    #50 There has never been a dam dog on the UK farm. Ever. So trust me, I’m not confusing the 2. Been through Curci, Claiborne, Curry, et al. Seen ’em all come and go. Figured it out when Curry left, knew UK’s lot in SEC FB life. When Curry was hired, people told me exactly what I’m reading on here. “he will change UK FB”. Same thing about Mumme, blah blah. Some people learn from history, some are doomed to repeat it. LOL, you rosy colored glasses people are doomed. LOL



  59. wheee
    5:13 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    #57 still not getting it. Way better everything at UK = still looking up at Bama/FL/LSU/UGA/USC/Auburn/A&M/Arkansas/UT.



  60. J A Brooks
    5:20 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    59) whats your goal? National title every year? Ever? Yeah probably will never happen. Get over it.

    Do you know how recruiting works?

    Better recruits and better coaching means more wins more success etc.

    More wins and more success means even better recruits.

    Even better recruits means even more wins and even more success.

    Even more wins and even more success means even better recruits

    Etc.

    Etc.

    Etc.



  61. debbie downer
    5:21 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    #58 in the words of C.M Newton “maybe you need to find another team to support”.



  62. J A Brooks
    5:23 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Successful teams are junior and senior lead… stoops and co can recruit well enough that occasionally we’ll be loaded with juniors and seniors and can beat scar and others



  63. Rick Minter
    5:25 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Hey Mr. Stoops I have several offers from other D1 schools to be DC but I will stay with Kentucky to help the boys and to keep this elite defense going. Can I also have a raise like the other guys? Thank you Mr. Stoops.



  64. wheee
    5:25 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    My goal? doesn’t matter. Reality dictates best case scenario at UK is 5th or 6th in SEC East. Better get 3 OOC wins (UofL not feasible at least for 2-3 years), cause .500 in conference rarely if ever will happen. Here’s what you don’t get, it doesn’t appear. Better recruits at UK is great when compared to PAST UK recruiting efforts. Doesn’t mean jack, tho, when compared with rest of SEC. What was this past year’s UK class ranked? 52nd or something? So Stoops remarkably improves UK to a 28th ranked class. Still will be 11th – 14th in SEC. Will that translate into better performance? probably. More SEC wins? NO, No and heck no. Overall better record? Maybe 6-6. Heck no I don’t worry about Natinal Title every year. Not any year. Not gonna happen in our lifetime unless state boundaries are redrawn. LOL



  65. boyd
    5:26 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    BHAHAHAHAHAH, #24 WINS!!



  66. wheee
    5:26 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    #61 Trust me, its in process.



  67. UK football player
    5:30 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    17.) talk about some exciting football right there…let’s make that happen Coach!



  68. wheee
    5:31 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Last one since my welcome is worn out. You can mark this down too: lather, rinse, repeat in 3 years or so. Scenario 1 = Stoops and staff do what no other coaches have done at UK in 65 years or so. UK will have losing record next year. But best case, he puts a couple years back to back of 6-6, 7-5. Then he’s gone to greener pastures and back to square one. Scenario 2 = he doesn’t and back to square one anyway. Enjoy the honeymoon sunshiners!



  69. Al's IndiCats
    5:32 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    58 I’ve been there too, I’m old enough to have listened to Cawood call games back in the late 50s. But you seem so hell bent on dismissing everyone’s thought you may be just cynical enough to never believe in anything. Curci, Claiborne, and Curry was then. This is now, this is an entirely different era in UK football, But you can get aboard, or you can keep smashing walnuts with rocks. That choice is yours. And if you can see so far in the future, mind giving me the winning numbers on powerball tonight?



  70. Rex Ryan
    5:35 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    #49. no doubt! KIDS WERE LOST OUT ON THE FIELD THIS YEAR! Especially on defense



  71. Al's IndiCats
    5:36 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Yeah that’s what I thought Troll



  72. Yngvie Maumsteen.
    5:38 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    68-Promises promises.



  73. wheee
    5:38 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    #69 Cynical? Probably. Predict the future? How would one do that? How do economists, politicians, scientists predict the future? Study the past. Make educated guesses based on past results in experiments where the variables are unchanged. There are many variables inherent in the mess of UK football. Lack of recruiting base, northernmost SEC school, lack of funding compared to MOST other SEC teams, lack of tradition, lack of history, poor facilities, and lastly below average coaching (but not always..UK has had some good coaches that couldnt’ turn it around). So we change the coaching variable. Changes nothing about the rest of the issues. So I predict the future based on the past. Who is more likely right? What does an overall FB record of under .500 suggest? That I am more likely to hit the Powerball than you guys. LOL



  74. wheee
    5:40 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    #72 “You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth!”



  75. SevenT
    6:18 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    The future of Kentucky Football looks very bright! These are young, high energy coaches who know how to run a big time football program. I hope the FSU coaching team can move those FSU recruits to Kentucky recruits. Kentucky Fans are hungry for a winner and they will absolutely pack the house.

    Go Big Blue



  76. g-unit
    7:13 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    74- man you have no idea what you are talking about. Look at Texas a&m they have a total of 4 players that play significant minutes that are 4 star recruits. Johnny Manziel was a 2 star qb and he made Alabama look like fools. It’s all about coaching… At the end of brooks’ tenure he wasn’t getting outstanding recruits… He was developing players. These coaches we are bringing in have deep ties to Florida and Texas. That’s where the players are. You get them up here and you develop them like stoops has shown he can do. Kentucky’s big selling point is if u go to an SEC power it is almost mandatory that u are redshirt… Not at UK. COLEY runs a mech of the spread and pro offense… And will manipulate the offense to play to our strengths. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about so take ur negative ass elsewhere.



  77. unca b
    7:13 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    73. UL called. They are missing their village idiot. Have you called home? They are worried about you. Please do us all a favor, and keep your word.



  78. Beavis
    8:09 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Stoops will have these men playing much better. We will not lose to Vandy by 40 to zip next year. Under Joker,,,,well ,, we would have had more of the same. Some people on here are wondering where all the Barnfart haters went. Well I am right here. The man has made some terrible decisions as AD. But even he is not stupid enough to botch this hire,,,,his job depended on it. Isn’t it funny how the money started rolling out for the new coaches when the AD’s job was in jeopardy ????



  79. BBB
    8:17 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    I’m not sure I can live without bubble screens. Somebody wake me up!!



  80. BBB
    8:23 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    It all sounds so great. Butt when all the light gets out of your eyes…..do you think Stoops (and I hope he does) will change 6 decades of losing football??? I doubt it. Recruiting is the main thing to watch and unless this is drastically changed we aren’t much better off in the long run.Talent wins…period. BUTT, we will get facility renovations we deserve, and this will be fun again…at least we’ll see how long an SEC honeymoon lasts….and AGAIN>>>I hope he does it!!!



  81. bigbluejon
    8:52 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    Butt is what you sit on (or talk out of ), I think you mean but.



  82. So/so hire
    9:57 pm November 28, 2012 Permalink

    I’ve never seen so many people get butt hurt over some one telling the truth. Foe all of you who think we will be competing with Bama, Fla, LSU, and T AM come back to reality. That’s unfair to even expect no matter who the coach is. If Stoops can get us to a point where we pass both Mississippi schools, Vandy, Missouri and Arkansas that would be a huge success. Maybe get us on par with Carolina that should be our goal. Tennessee will be back in the top tier no way their AD will whiff agian. That’s not being negative it’s being realistic
    #75 how do you know these guys know how to run a program? Stoops has never been a head coach and Coley hasn’t ran a offence. If the FSU recruits don’t go to FSU because of the coaches leaving don’t be so sure they would come here. There is a huge difference between recruiting to FSU and Uk.i hope this all works out but the jury is still out on this hire. What if our coach is more like Mike instead of Bob. It will take about 3 years to see if this was a good hire or not.



  83. ReasonForOptimism
    12:41 am November 29, 2012 Permalink

    The hire is done, we can be pessimistic and feel miserable or we can be optimistic and feel excited. Take a guess which is more fun to watch games with.



  84. ReasonForOptimism
    12:44 am November 29, 2012 Permalink

    Oh yeah, we can beat anyone on any given day.



  85. Jane
    8:27 am November 29, 2012 Permalink

    Wow, he’s kind of cute.



  86. weeezanass
    9:04 am November 29, 2012 Permalink

    hey weee this guys been around football since he was in his mamas belly and i do think “if you build it they will come” I aint heard anything this negative since my ex-wife. I bet you dont buy icecream cause it will melt if you try to enjoy it.You dont ask a girl out cause you know she’s gonna say no.Don’t go fishing cause you know they won’t bite. I’m gonna give him a chance, go to some games and who knows maybe travel some where warmer after x-mas..? New years? So if im out deer hunting some day and stumble across a satilite dish on top of a hill I know your cave is close by, I promise I wont block your dish with a big flat rock



  87. Sickand tired
    10:39 am November 29, 2012 Permalink

    Hey wheee since you know so much about football why dont you put in for the job!