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Making A List….

Santa Dan

Christmas is rapidly approaching and in true blue holiday spirit, instead of the 12 days of Christmas, I thought I’d countdown 12 of my favorite greats of Kentucky Basketball …


Kentucky is arguably the most accomplished program in college basketball but sometimes we forget about the players behind the titles and all the wins …


#12  -Jodie Meeks– On January 13, 2009 Meeks broke the single game scoring record held by Dan Issel with 54 points. Meeks finished the season with 854 total points, second only to Dan Issel. Meeks was drafted 41st by the Milwaukee Bucks.


#11-Patrick Patterson– Patterson is one of the most beloved Wildcats of all time, mainly because of the conditions he played under (cough Billy G cough), and then continued to play his heart out even being overshadowed by freshmen. Patterson is 13th in career points and career rebounds. He was selected 14th overall in the NBA draft by the Houston Rockets.


#10 -Keith Bogans– A fan favorite, four year Wildcat. During his senior season he led the wildcats to a 16-0 Southeastern Conference sweep along with an SEC tournament title. The wildcats made a post-season run to the elite eight.


#9 -John Wall– The #1 recruit in the nation was the first big get for new coach Calipari. Wall set the Kentucky single season and single game assist records. He was drafted #1 overall by the Washington Wizards, and I can’t forget to mention his excellent dancing skills. He brought a new, dare I say, swagger to Kentucky. Wall got us attention and helped Kentucky be noticed again by the best recruits.


#8- Sam Bowie– Bowie will probably forever be remembered as the guy who was drafted before Michael Jordan but he accomplished a lot during his time at Kentucky. He is currently the 8th all time rebounder and 3rd all-time shot blocker. He suffered a shin injury that took him out for quite a while but he played well enough his final season to be drafted 2nd overall by the Trailblazers.


#7-  Cliff Hagan– Hagan is most well known for his excellent hook shot. He helped lead the team to a National Championship. Hagan had a 51 point performance against Temple in 1953, which held the single game scoring record until 1970.


#6- Rex Chapman– Chapman scored 1,073 points in only two years at Kentucky. He was an All-American and led the team to its 37th SEC title. He was drafted 8th overall by the Charlotte Hornets.


#5- Tayshaun Prince– Averaged 13.2 points and 5.7 rebounds a game during his 4 years at Kentucky. During his Junior year he was the SEC player of the year. Prince is 8th in career points at Kentucky. One of his most memorable moments is the 5 consecutive 3 pointers against North Carolina.


#4- Jamal Mashburn– He played a big part in altering Kentucky’s history. He revamped Kentucky’s image after a scandal and probation period, he helped UK regain national recognition as legitimate competition. Mashburn helped the Wildcats reach the Final Four in 1993. He was drafted  by the Mavericks that same year.


#3- Kyle Macy– He began his career at Purdue but transferred and quickly became a UK favorite. Macy helped lead the Wildcats to the 1978  National Championship. He was the first UK player to be named consensus SEC player of the year. Macy is UK’s free throw shooting percentage leader with a percentage of 89%.


#2- Wayne Turner– He is the most reliable Wildcat of all time, he finished his career as the all-time leader in games played in NCAA DIV 1 men’s basketball games.  Turner led his team to 3 consecutive NCAA Championship game appearances, winning in 1996 and 1998. Who else does that?


#1 -Dan “The Man” Issel– This entire list is respectfully debatable but the number 1 spot has to go to Dan Issel every time. He played 3 seasons at Kentucky and is the all-time leading scorer with 2,138 career points, which is a crazy average of 25.7 points a game. Issel is also the all-time leading rebounder with 1,078. He also held the single game scoring record until 2009.

With so much talent throughout Kentucky’s history – who would your top 12 be?

On a quick, unrelated note, Behanan wants us all to know that the Louisville Cardinals will be undefeated, become National Champions, Win the Super Bowl, Be crowned Miss Universe, Become Olympic Gold Medalists and Sweep the World Series. And on that note- Enjoy your day!


Article written by Laura Leigh Rossoll

130 Comments for Making A List….



  1. BBN
    9:07 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    For UK, Anthony Davis is the Sam Bowie of this generation. People like to compare him to Marcus Camby, but I also see flashes of both Sam Bowie and Rasheed Wallace. I think a lot of NBA scouts would like to see him become a Rasheed Wallace type of player without Rasheed’s temper and bad attitude of course.



  2. NostraDanis
    9:12 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Wayne Turner????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    Not a very good list. No Goose. No Sky. No Roby. One player from Rupp’s era. Really.



  3. mike
    9:12 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Kevin Grevey!



  4. Fan2011
    9:14 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Turner was great, but he didn’t log one second in the 96 title game and wasn’t a leader until 98. As far as wins, absolutely, but I would not rank him that high.. I’m a lifelong fan at 29, and the two most IMPORTANT players in that span (program-changing) have been Mash and Wall.



  5. Bryan the Intern
    9:14 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Uh oh.



  6. StateStreet
    9:15 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    I could see Gerald Fitch on this list too



  7. google
    9:18 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    i taught her everything she knows about UK basketball



  8. Al's IndiCats
    9:20 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    That was Ms. Rossol’s list, and again some are giving her hell for HER list. Comprise your own.
    Dan would’ve been my number 1 also. #5 Cliff Hagan was from the Rupp era!



  9. Mr.Economy
    9:22 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Cliff Barker, Ralph Beard, Alex Groza, Wallace Jones and Kenneth Rollins. They are also known as the 1948



  10. wook master
    9:24 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    cliff Hagans steak house was so awesome. I used to go there as eat with my dad before every game. now there’s some strip club or shitty club in the building.



  11. C'mon, Man!
    9:24 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Givens, Robey, and Walker are already mentioned before. Alex Groza? Ralph Beard? Cotton Nash? Tom Parker? Bill Spivey? Louie Dampier? Pat Riley? Could make arguments for Rondo, Hayes, and Jim Andrews.



  12. WinchesterUKfan
    9:28 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Come on people, seriously. She clearly stated that this was HER list of top 12 UK players. She didn’t say it was the definite top 12 all time for everyone. If you disagree, then make your own list. In fact, that’s what she asked you to do at the end of the post.



  13. warrior
    9:29 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    I hate Loyola with every fiber of my body.



  14. Wildcat Kyle
    9:30 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    The University of Jody Meeks



  15. Jack Givens
    9:31 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Ending a 20 year title drought, being the 3rd leading scorer in history, top 12 in rebounds, and going for 41 in the title game puts me behind Jodie Meeks?



  16. Class of '97
    9:33 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Chuck Hayes… All he does is win! Ok maybe he’s not on the “Greatest” list, but he’s on my “Favorite” list.



  17. Space between John hoods jersey and chest
    9:33 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Travis Ford?
    Jeff Sheppard?
    Saul Smith….hahah lol nah not saul.



  18. Skywalker
    9:35 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Would put “Goose” Givens and “Sky” Walker on the list somewhere



  19. Says me
    9:37 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    I’m going to commit a minor act of heresy here, and question Dan Issel’s status as the unquestioned greatest player in UK history.

    One of the things that never gets discussed with Issel is the context in which his statistical domination occurred. That context is the highest scoring era in college basketball history, and furthermore, an era in which it was not uncommon for one player to accumulate an amount of shots that are totally unrealistic today, or really at any other time. Guys put up ridiculous scoring averages all over the country. Maravich, Austin Carr, Elvin Hayes, Calvin Murphy, Rick Mount, Johnny Neumann, and so on- a disproportionate amount of the highest scoring averages in NCAA history come from the era in which Issel played.

    That doesn’t mean those guys were greater than players in other eras, it means they were great players who played under circumstances that lent themselves to setting scoring records. Issel’s scoring average is always his trump card, and that probably shouldn’t be the case. He was a great player, and maybe the greatest player in UK history (although I would argue that, relative to their eras, Alex Groza and Bob Spivey were better), but it’s not right to make a scoring average that’s not realistic in any other era the deciding factor.



  20. Mr.Economy
    9:38 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    The Louisville Cardinals will also win the 2012 Nihon Sumo Kyokai Official Grand Sumo Championship to be held in Tokyo, Japan on January 8th through January 22, 2012 at the Ryogoku Kokugikan arena. Just saying…………..

    Mr. Economy



  21. Says me
    9:38 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    edit Bob Spivey to Bill.



  22. KDOGG10
    9:40 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    BOGGIE COUSINS….I believe he was the first big get for Coach Cal when he came to KY. He was the #2 player in the country behind J. Wall. He was a monster and won us the SEC Tourny title. He also had the bad a$$ attitude that made Cal’s first team so dominating. I believe he will go down, even if just played one year, as one of the all time fan favorites of this generations BBN fans.



  23. Jortsgroupie
    9:41 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Cmon man, can you write one single article WITHOUT mentioning those dirty birds???

    I’m a die hard CAT fan but,
    Ksr’s obsession with UL is becoming ridiculous!!



  24. comebackcats
    9:44 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Wayne turner was average at best, we had weak guards those years, he was lucky to be starting.



  25. Uglymuffin
    9:49 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Well since Anthony Epps was starting at point for 96 and 97 you meant to put him in at number two. Obviously forgot Walker, Goose, and Groza. And having Macy or turner better then Mashburn is the dumbest thing I may have ever seen. You are the worst yet.



  26. bluesince66
    9:49 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    This list definetly tells us her age bracket. I would argue Mashburn as the greatest cat of all time. A list without Grevey or Givens isn’t a top ten in my opinion.
    1. Mashburn
    2. Issel
    3. Givens
    4. Grevey
    5. Walker
    6. Hagan
    7. Cotton Nash
    8. Delk
    9. Robey
    10.Dampier



  27. wildcat golf
    9:50 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    How is Sky Walker not on this list!!!!



  28. DT
    9:50 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Surely a gold medal, two titles, and 3 time consensus All-American get you in the Top 12?

    Great article on Ralph Beard: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/basketball/ncaa/11/30/beard/index.html



  29. Juwannawin#8
    9:51 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Who is Boggie Cousins?



  30. BigBlueSwami
    9:52 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    These articles are like coming to Rupp for a game during the Christmas break. You’re all excited about hearing the marching band making the place go crazy…and you get the Alumni band..woo….hoo (NOT!)



  31. WalkersGoggles
    9:54 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    No Sky Walker? No Givens? … Turner???????



  32. Catsssssss
    9:54 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    I think the point was to look back over who your own top 12 would be since she, ya know, asks it at the end of the article. Looks like she put some effort in on making her own list and everyone has their own favorites. Back off a little, ya vultures



  33. Mr.Economy
    9:55 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Rumor has it that the Louisville Cardinals are also gearing up – and will win – the 2012 world croquet championship…..

    Just saying

    Mr.Economy



  34. 朝青龍
    9:56 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    @Says me, don’t forget Freeman Williams of Portland State– 1974-78, 38.8 PPG in the Era of the Gunner. And Kentucky State’s obscure hoops genius Travis Grant!

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blackhistory2008/columns/story?columnist=buckheit_mary&page=buckheit/080222

    I vote for Ralph Beard myself. Great player, tragic story.

    @Mr. Economy, I hope the Cards can make weight. The Chicken Bucket should help. 喰う〜



  35. bung
    10:05 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    thanks for an article on UK’s rich history.
    I would Prob have Groza, Beard, Ramsey, Spivey, etc. along with some modern guys like Issel, Casey, Grevey, Robey, Chapman, The Freshman eligible rule didnt start until the early 70’s so a lot of the older greats got their numbers in just 3 years. My list would be about 25 long though.



  36. nassau65
    10:07 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    55. I agree, she did ask. This type of article brings out a lot of idiots that would rather beat someone down, than to read the entire post. Same type of people that second guess Cal on everything he does. Par for the course.



  37. nassau65
    10:08 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    oops, loks like some moderation took place. bout time. 55 is now 32



  38. Radio Ron
    10:12 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Two words:
    Cotton Nash
    (played all 5 positions)



  39. Gene
    10:13 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    How could you leave out Frank Ramsey? The greatest 6th man in NBA history and Hagan’s team mate in the 1950’s.



  40. RD
    10:21 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Gotta have Grevey and The Goose in there. Imagine how many points Grevey would’ve scored had the 3pt shot been around then.



  41. Calipari'sInYourEar
    10:22 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    #2 – NostraDanis – Yea, Wayne Turner.

    He’s on my list.

    You don’t know UK basketball if you don’t have Wayne Turner on your list.



  42. Cat Head
    10:22 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Laura, how you doin’?



  43. Brew Crew
    10:24 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Love the list. It’s interesting putting Wayne Turner at #2 but I like it. The guy has the most games played EVER at UK, and led the team to 3 national championships. He’s probably the best guard we’ve had (over a four year period), and was a part of some great teams.

    Shame Wall didn’t stay longer, he could’ve done that and more… maybe been higher on the list



  44. Bob Loblaw
    10:24 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    This list is her FAVORITE greats, not who she thinks is the greatest players. Make sure you read the posts before you make assinine comments on it.



  45. DT
    10:26 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Was this sentence changed?
    ” I thought I’d countdown the 12 of my favorite greats of Kentucky Basketball”

    I don’t remember the phrase “my favorite” being in there when it was first posted.



  46. Anonymous
    10:29 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Wayne Turner is the best guard UK has had over a 4-year period??? Ummmm, Ralph Beard???



  47. Calipari'sInYourEar
    10:32 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    #4 – Fan2011 – Turner played in every other game that season (1996) as he shared duties with Anthony Epps at point.

    To write off his value to the teams he was a part of through his 4 complete season is blasphemy. Turner played a much larger role than people give him credit for as the Pitino point guard was essential as a ball distributor and glue man.

    Also, John Wall was not a program changer.



  48. bigcat76
    10:36 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    I gotta put Delk in there somewhere. He never get’s any love. I’d probably drop Bogans, I guess.



  49. Mike Burks
    10:38 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    No Ralph Bread? This list cannot be taken seriously.



  50. Warren Oates
    10:38 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    John Wall and no Tony Delk???? Wall’s contributuions to the overall program is a footnote to the Delk legacy.



  51. JackBluto
    10:41 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    I will only put people on my list that I remeber and saw play. That pretty much limits me to the late-70’s, and I was in grade school then. You won’t see any Cal era players. Too soon for me for a list like this. My favorites – in the best order I can give:

    1. Sky Walker (2 time scoring and rebound leader in SEC-single handedly gave Sutton only real shot at FF for UK) 2. Mashburn 3. Anthony Epps (nothing but win and overcome low expectations) 4. Chuck Hayes 5. Reggie Hanson (remember Pitino created the Reggie Hanson award? For that reason.) 6. Delk 7. Meeks 8. Prince 9. Magloire (loved the mean streak) 10. James Lee (6th man dunk machine of ’78 Champs) 11. Rex (Sutton wouldn’t let him loose) 12. Fitch (A trouble maker that redeemed himself and became Mr. Clutch, until his last shot.)

    Cal era players – Cuz is my favorite, then Jorts, then Darius.



  52. Brew Crew
    10:42 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    49. Wayne Turner would have taken Ralph Beard to task… I mean, those older guys were great and incredibly important to the program, and he was probably the best (I’m far too young to have watched) of the older guys, but, it’s a different game. I’d have to say Wayne Turner’s run was more impressive.



  53. Scrooge
    10:43 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Wow, I was busier than I realized last night pooping in Cheerios and stealing stockings. Lots of grumpy folks on here today. It’s my fault not Laura’s that some of you are so miserable. But it’s your own fault that you’ve adopted such a condescending tone in these comments.



  54. JWebb
    10:48 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Suffice it to say that if anyone lists twelve people as their all-time UK greats, every other UK fan will have some players that they think have been left off of the list. It’s the nature of the beast when you root for the program that has the most tradition in college basketball. So many excellent players, so few spots on the list…

    We’d need someone over a hundred years old that is not scared of computers before we can get a comprehensive list of the 12 greatest UK players of all time. Until then, we’re all limited by our own experience.

    For my part, as a 35 year old, I’d like to see Kenny Walker and Goose Givens on this list. And on my sentimental list I’d like to see Pat Riley, Cameron Mills, Ron Mercer, and Josh Harrelson.



  55. Reed Rothchild
    10:49 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    She is listing her favorites…. to each their own.



  56. Drew Franklin
    10:51 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    I don’t understand why everyone is so upset over her list. It’s HER list. She can put Mark Krebs at No. 1 if she wants too. I know I would.

    So everyone calm down and be respectful. The lists you’re suggesting aren’t perfect, either. It’s a matter of opinion.

    This is why we can’t have nice things.



  57. Brew Crew
    10:51 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Whoops, my apologies to 49. That was for 46



  58. i_got_epps_back
    10:52 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    i understand this is “her” list..but when its wrong its wrong! you cant give wayne turner credit for 96-97 when it was anthony epps that led that team. epps was a fantastic lead guard for those teams..dishing the ball to the right people at the right time. why not just give turner the credit for leading the 1978 champions while we’re at it.



  59. Just Sayin...
    10:54 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    If this were a list of her favorites, then why would she say all of the spots are debatable except Dan Issel at #1? Is she saying that her favorites are debatable, which makes no sense? Is she saying that she has no choice but to like Dan Issel the most, which, again, makes no sense? This is clearly her list of who she thinks are the top 10 players in the history of the UK program. And she has Wayne Turner at #2. Sadly, even if she didn’t have Wayne Turner at #2, this list would be absurd.



  60. Pete Eggz
    10:57 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    She wasn’t listing her favorite players, she was listing her top 12 players of all time. Someone edited it to be her favorites after you realized she had just written that Wayne Turner was the second greatest player at UK. I love Wayne Turner, but whatever your standards (greatest impact, most important, best career stats, etc), Wayne Turner can never be number two on a list of all-time UK greats. Plus her facts were just wrong. He didn’t lead three teams to a National Championship. He arguably led one, even though Sheppard was the best player on that team. And you can’t consider him the most reliable Wildcat of all time. He was a really good point guard, but was an awful free throw shooter, and one-year starter.



  61. Rex's Mullett
    10:58 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Glad I’m not the only one that thinks this lady is crazy for putting Turner on this list. Like #4 said, he didn’t play that much in ’96. He was in the rotation, but he backed up Anthony Epps. I mean I love Turner and all for slapping the floor and making Wojo his ho, but that just puts him in a tie with Magloire for the Jamaal putting Wojo in the rack.



  62. MonsterMash24
    10:59 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Why are you idiots giving someone a hard time over THEIR List??? You all need to get a life and realize this isnt about you…Give people a break?Are you that bored???



  63. Catsssssss
    11:01 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Guys, if its her list of her 12 greats of all time, wouldnt that make it her favorites? They go hand in hand with a subjective subject such as this. Looks like everyone is getting their panties in a wad for no reason.



  64. Prince43
    11:01 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    59 59 59 59 Everyone read comment 59. It perfectly destroys Drew’s comment and this list.



  65. MonsterMash24
    11:01 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    But since this is MY LIST you baffoons my #1 would be who i think is the greatest to play at UK and thats Jamal Mashburn.



  66. Santa Claus
    11:05 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    85% of you are getting coal this year.



  67. BUCats
    11:09 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    I think the confusion is what the list actually represents. Before it was edited, it wasn’t clear what these 12 players were.



  68. btowncatfan
    11:10 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    If any of you would bother to read the intro. These are her favorites, not necessarily the best.



  69. BowToTheBrow
    11:10 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    No love for Cliff Hawkins in #BBN??!



  70. Calipari'sInYourEar
    11:10 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    I can’t believe that JimBob “The Crane” Bocefus isn’t on the list.

    He friggin taught Naismith how to hang the peach basket.

    Hagan, Beard, and any other player that came along simply walked in his shadow.



  71. Catsssssss
    11:12 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Do I really have to comment again. Her 12 greats of all time = Her favorites. Its pretty simple I think. She even asks who everyone elses would be.



  72. Wildcat502
    11:12 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    I think Laura Leigh is so sexy



  73. BowToTheBrow
    11:15 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Steve Masiello??!



  74. CATS
    11:17 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    peckerheads all of you!!!



  75. to those defending this list
    11:18 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    #59 said it:
    If this were a list of her favorites, then why would she say all of the spots are debatable except Dan Issel at #1? Is she saying that her favorites are debatable, which makes no sense? Is she saying that she has no choice but to like Dan Issel the most, which, again, makes no sense? This is clearly her list of who she thinks are the top 10 players in the history of the UK program. And she has Wayne Turner at #2. Sadly, even if she didn’t have Wayne Turner at #2, this list would be absurd.



  76. Ms. Tyler Thompson
    11:21 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    67, 75 – Seriously? Go back to the stone age.



  77. Jaws2
    11:22 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    #19 Says me says, and how many points do you think Issel would’ve scored if the 3 was in play AND he got 4 years to do it? Issel would have set a ceiling no one would ever approach. In addition to that he was a monster rebounding machine.



  78. Fan2011
    11:25 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    #47 CalsInyourear- Never did I imply Wayne Turner wasn’t anything other than fantastic. He certainly did overall play a huge role all 4 years and was an all-time great. I just disagreed with how high he was ranked. I still think that as a leader, Epps was more vital to the 96 and 97 teams. And the context of John Wall being a program changer had less to do with his play on the court and more to do with him following Cals lead and being the one player who most re-asserted UK as an elite destination program. We always were, but our star had obviously dimmed over the last 10-12 years. He more than any player of Cals era made UK “cool” again, for lack of a better word. Mash goes without saying.

    And to the original poster, this was a successful post- just look at the good debate it sparked.



  79. EDITS
    11:30 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Ms. Tyler Thompson, I think edits have your comment referring to the wrong posters. That is, unless you associate the stone age with logic and reason.



  80. MonsterMash24
    11:33 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Jaws2 is missing the point…do u really think issel woulda shattered three back then?No…but back then the game was more watered down than now…but the Monster Mash is the best to of played at UK…No offense to any of the past players of years ago or recently but the Monster Mash was soooo goooood! He only beat himself,if he hadnt fouled out in the final games of their season (92 &93) they may have had two Final 4s and def i think had a National Title…if he doesnt foul out against Michigan &North Carolina wouldnt have beaten them (who woulda guarded him?)they woulda won the Title then and if he comes back in 94 they could have again and break the all time scoring record without a doubt. Thats MY CHOICE AS #1… Jamal Mashburn!!!



  81. this is a life or death situation
    11:35 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    i liked it… why does everyone have to be so hostile? ITS CHRISTMAS!!!



  82. Ms. Tyler Thompson
    11:35 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    “Edits,” you are correct, the offending comments were (rightfully) removed…I’ll leave what they were to your imagination. 🙂



  83. Carolina Cat
    11:35 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Laura,
    I will forgive you since you are obviously a woman and as such know little about sports, but to suggest that Wayne Turner “led” us to 3 consecutive title games simply isn’t factual. Not to mention that it’s a slap in the face to the man who started over Wayne in the first 2, Anthony Epps. Aside from that I take no issue with your list.



  84. Rex's Mullett
    11:36 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    In my (not so humble) opinion, the greatest basketball players know how to score the basketball. Here’s a list of the top 12 UK players in terms of points per game. There are some great one’s on this list, especially #11. And most of these guys ended up as All Americans so you can’t really argue with that.

    12. Johnny Cox
    11. Rex Chapman
    10. Pat Riley
    9. Mike Casey
    8. Jamal Mashburn
    7. Cliff Hagan
    6. Bill Spivey
    5. Louie Dampier
    4. Bob Burrow
    3. Kevin Grevey
    2. Cotton Nash
    1. Dan Issel

    Granted, I’ve only been alive to see two of these guys play (Rex & Mash), but you can’t argue with the #’s especially if these guys are in the same company as Rex & Mashburn.



  85. rmiller
    11:37 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    great job great post, my list would have to include derrick miller and tony delk, love the shooters!!



  86. Rex's Mullett
    11:44 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Also, here’s the top 100:

    PPG Player Seasons Games Points PPG
    Rank

    1 Dan Issel 3 83 2,138 25.76
    2 Cotton Nash 3 78 1,770 22.69
    3 Kevin Grevey 3 84 1,801 21.44
    4 Bob Burrow 2 51 1,023 20.06
    5 Louie Dampier 3 80 1,575 19.69
    6 Bill Spivey 2 63 1,213 19.25
    7 Cliff Hagan 3 77 1,475 19.16
    8 Jamal Mashburn 3 98 1,843 18.81
    9 Mike Casey 3 82 1,535 18.72
    10 Pat Riley 3 80 1,464 18.30
    11 Rex Chapman 2 61 1,073 17.59
    12 Johnny Cox 3 84 1,461 17.39
    13 Brandon Knight 1 38 657 17.29
    14 Tom Payne 1 28 473 16.89
    15 Mike Pratt 3 81 1,359 16.78
    16 John Wall 1 37 616 16.65
    17 Jim Andrews 3 80 1,320 16.50
    18 Leroy Edwards 1 21 343 16.33
    19 Patrick Patterson 3 97 1,564 16.12
    20 Kenny Walker 4 132 2,080 15.76
    21 Tom Parker 3 80 1,238 15.48
    22 Jack Givens 4 132 2,038 15.44
    23 Jodie Meeks 3 81 1,246 15.38
    24 Vernon Hatton 3 76 1,153 15.17
    25 DeMarcus Cousins 1 38 575 15.13
    26 Terrence Jones 2 48 719 14.98
    27 Frank Ramsey 3 91 1,344 14.77
    28 Bill Lickert 3 73 1,076 14.74
    29 Alex Groza 4 120 1,744 14.53
    30 Kyle Macy 3 98 1,411 14.40
    31 Chris Mills 1 32 459 14.34
    32 Keith Bogans 4 135 1,923 14.24
    33 Tony Delk 4 133 1,890 14.21
    34 Roger Newman 1 28 397 14.18
    35 Derrill Hart 3 23 318 13.83
    36 Sam Bowie 3 96 1,285 13.39
    37 Ron Mercer 2 76 1,013 13.33
    38 Doron Lamb 2 49 653 13.33
    39 Larry Pursiful 3 71 946 13.32
    40 Rick Robey 4 105 1,395 13.29
    41 Tayshaun Prince 4 135 1,775 13.15
    42 Ralph Morgan 3 18 233 12.94
    43 Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 1 11 142 12.91
    44 Jerry Bird 3 56 713 12.73
    45 Ed Davender 4 129 1,637 12.69
    46 Dwight Anderson 2 40 505 12.63
    47 Randolph Morris 3 89 1,123 12.62
    48 Forest Sale 3 50 627 12.54
    49 Melvin Turpin 4 123 1,509 12.27
    50 Derek Anderson 2 55 674 12.25
    51 Rodrick Rhodes 3 99 1,209 12.21
    52 John DeMoisey 3 53 640 12.08
    53 Thad Jaracz 3 82 982 11.98
    54 Jimmy Dan Conner 3 85 1,009 11.87
    55 Ted Deeken 3 64 757 11.83
    56 Antoine Walker 2 69 806 11.68
    57 Reggie Hanson 4 101 1,167 11.55
    58 Larry Conley 3 81 934 11.53
    59 Irvine Jeffries 1 10 115 11.50
    60 Anthony Davis 1 11 126 11.45
    61 Mike Phillips 4 120 1,367 11.39
    62 Eric Bledsoe 1 37 419 11.32
    63 Joe Crawford 4 127 1,438 11.32
    64 Gayle Mohney 1 18 200 11.11
    65 Gerry Calvert 3 70 777 11.10
    66 Marquis Teague 1 11 122 11.09
    67 John Pelphrey 4 114 1,257 11.03
    68 Derrick Miller 4 105 1,156 11.01
    69 Gerald Fitch 4 127 1,391 10.95
    70 Ralph Beard 4 139 1,517 10.91
    71 Jim Master 4 121 1,283 10.60
    72 John Crigler 3 66 696 10.55
    73 Bennie Coffman 2 50 526 10.52
    74 Winston Bennett 4 133 1,399 10.52
    75 LeRon Ellis 2 60 631 10.52
    76 Bobby Watson 3 96 1,001 10.43
    77 Larry Steele 3 75 781 10.41
    78 Ramel Bradley 4 128 1,326 10.36
    79 Patrick Sparks 2 69 714 10.35
    80 Scott Padgett 4 122 1,252 10.26
    81 Heshimu Evans 2 76 777 10.22
    82 Adrian Smith 2 51 518 10.16
    83 Ronnie Lyons 3 78 786 10.08
    84 Kelenna Azubuike 3 97 970 10.00
    85 Deron Feldhaus 4 124 1,232 9.94
    86 Derrick Hord 4 124 1,220 9.84
    87 Mike Flynn 3 85 835 9.82
    88 Rajon Rondo 2 68 654 9.62
    89 Paul Adkins 2 28 269 9.61
    90 Travis Ford 3 100 951 9.51
    91 Sid Cohen 2 50 471 9.42
    92 Marquis Estill 3 100 936 9.36
    93 Don Mills 3 71 664 9.35
    94 Walter McCarty 3 103 946 9.18
    95 Phil Argento 3 63 576 9.14
    96 Tommy Kron 3 79 719 9.10
    97 H. C. Thomas 2 25 227 9.08
    98 Wallace Jones 4 127 1,151 9.06
    99 Chuck Hayes 4 134 1,211 9.04
    100 Bob Guyette 3 84 758 9.02



  87. NotAllGirlsGoogle
    11:53 am December 21, 2011 Permalink

    I know Matt just said on the radio to leave this girl some love, but after reading this I honestly cannot. I appreciate her interest, but one should not start comprising a list of a program’s greatest in history without actually knowing that program’s history. Someone mentioned this earlier–her fan timeline is obvious. They were right. I was at UK when Jodie dropped 54 in Knoxville and sunk 10 threes (another single game record he broke that evening) and that was a great feat. However, I would not include him on this list. As others have also stated, it does not say “My Favorite 12 Kentucky Basketball Players” at the top of this list. I honestly believe if it had, that would be different. However, unless you are writing your own columns for ESPN or SI, no one probably wants to hear your top 12 (that is not a dig at the author–that is true for most of us). That said, you should not author a post on the subject unless you are going to present a list that reads and feels truly comprehensive. There will obviously never be a list everyone is going to agree on, but if you are going to make a list that’s up for debate, make a case for yourself. Get some stats from the pre-3 era and throw out some #s for those guys who played less games per season and had less scoring potential. Oh, and in her defense I’d put Wayne Turner on my list too–not that high, but probably on there. It is very difficult to name 12 including the program’s entire history and every position on the court. I felt compelled to add my comments on this post (I usually do not) simply because as a female, I think that you should not attempt to write a post on a sports subject you are not 100% versed in. I’m sure she could have written on many other things and received far less slack. As a female sportswriter, these types of posts [excuse my lack of PC] add to the “Stay in the Kitchen” fire. Also, you are doing her a great disservice by putting on the kid gloves. If a guy wrote this post, I’m not so sure there’d be on-air pleas to write him little notes of encouragement. No one should have to apologize for their opinions–her or any of her commenters–she is not a victim. On my end, it sounds (not saying that it’s the case) like someone got teary eyed because feelings were hurt. That just further adds to the stigma surrounding women and sports writing. I hope this person decides to write a rebuttal or reconstruct her ideas and EARNS a little more respect from KSR readers.



  88. Rex's Mullett
    12:00 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Top 12 in my lifetime, I was born in 1981.

    12. John Wall
    11. Antoine Walker
    10. Tayshaun Prince
    9. Ron Mercer
    8. Sam Bowie
    7. Keith Bogans
    6. Jodie Meeks
    5. Kenny Walker
    4. Patrick Patterson
    3. Tony Delk
    2. Rex Champman
    1. Jamal Mashburn



  89. Rex's Mullett
    12:09 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Just a note in response to #87. I usually do not comment on the site, though I have ready it almost daily for the past four years. I was just a so enthralled at this list I had to say something. I also, didn’t notice it was a woman who posted until I was in the middle of my first comment.



  90. Blueshawk59
    12:15 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Dan will always be #1. For anyone who did not see him play it’s unforunate. He was a scoring machine from anywhere on the floor. Good choice!!!



  91. Yancey Gates
    12:18 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    This girl is writing her opinion! its a blog. This is not a list published in the UK basketball museum downstairs at Rupp. Those complaining should offer to write an article and stamp your name on it, Rather than hiding behind a blogger name!!!



  92. nassau65
    12:19 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    notallgirlsgoogle
    even though it probably took you a while to write all of that (BTW-i didn’t read past your first sentence)
    I doubt Ms. Laura will lose any sleep over an internet blogger who has nothing better to do than to criticize others. Jealous much?



  93. cats11
    12:30 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    A lot of this post is literally copied and pasted from elsewhere.



  94. CATSBY90
    12:37 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    you gotta throw the 6’6 powerhouse center Chuck Hayes in the top 5 comwhere



  95. CATSBY90
    12:38 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    you gotta throw the 6’6 powerhouse center Chuck Hayes in the top 5 somwhere



  96. CATSBY90
    12:38 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    you gotta throw the 6’6 powerhouse center Chuck Hayes in the top 5 somewhere



  97. Quartet Fan
    12:45 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    10 Turner
    09 Givens
    08 K. Walker
    07 Delk
    06 Grevey
    05 Mashburn
    04 Hagan
    03 Dampier
    02 Nash
    01 Issel



  98. angUKy1
    12:56 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    In response to #83….your comment “I will forgive you since you are obviously a woman and as such know little about sports” is laughable. I realize its natural for men to think that women know nothing about sports, but I know a few women (myself included) that could run circles around 95% of men who claim to “know sports” when it comes to sports knowledge. And again, this is her list and she has her comments as to why she lists them where she does. Not everyone has to agree. UK has had so many amazing players that it would be way too hard for me to list them in a particular order.



  99. yuppppp
    12:56 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    people complaining about the list..these are HER top 12..she wasn’t alive to see one’s in rupp’s era..that probably explains why they arent her favorites…



  100. bung
    1:08 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Rex’s mullett…that was terrific info…Thanks!!! And Laura that was a great article as witnessed by the number of comments.



  101. Josh-Pikeville
    1:19 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    My top 12 favorite players since I have been watching (1991)

    12. Kelenna Azubuike
    11. Jodi Meeks
    10. Tayshaun Prince
    9. Ron Mercer
    8. John Wall
    7. Brandon Knight
    6. Patrick Patterson
    5. Keith Bogans
    4. Tony Delk
    3. Derek Anderson
    2. Chuck Hayes
    1. Jamal Mashburn



  102. Ldbowe10
    1:22 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Agreed Cliff Hawkins would be a guy on my list just for the simple fact the tenacity in which he played defense. Loved watching that guy play, very underrated.



  103. WildcatGirl
    1:30 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Goose, Sky, Ramsey, Issel, Grevey, Mashburn, Macy, Meeks, Patterson, Wall, Nash, Riley are MY top 12.



  104. NotAllGirlsGoogle
    1:54 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    nassau65– you do not have to read my entire post; I take no offense. If you did though, you may realize that my post was not malicious criticism of the writer. I’m not jealous or ill-wishing. I also do not fancy myself an “Internet Blogger” like I said, I avoid commenting almost always to steer clear of conflict(I am actually an employed sports journalist). I happened to tune in this a.m. and hear about this. As a female who has been blasted after publishing sports opinion pieces, I simply took an interest & had an opinion. My issue is more with the fact that she has been made a martyr; that’s not fair to her.



  105. Jen
    1:56 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Some of the people who comment on here are just ridiculous. Ignore them. Only UK fans want to act like they know everything about UK and other UK fans don’t know nothing. Blame it on Matt for the “Most Ridiculous Manner Possible” and that means the people who comment on here also I guess! Maybe KSRU will be more fun to comment on!



  106. bigdkt
    2:00 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Kenny Walker is my all time favorite player. Has to be on this list!!!



  107. USA
    2:06 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Wow any list of UK that doesnt include delk might as well be tossed out the window. I’m embarrassed for all of you who don’t have him on it. Call yourself UK fans, ha!



  108. al
    2:37 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Kenny Walker for sure among the top 12 and what about Chuck Hayes for what he gave



  109. CAUKFAN
    2:57 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Where is Boogie?



  110. Boogie says
    3:00 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    I’m gonna stop coming to you’ll’s games!



  111. Red Bird
    3:13 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    It’s someones opinion. Geeze. Shut the hell up.



  112. checkmyswag
    3:19 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    who knew bti was ghost writing (dont remove this one please)



  113. seriously
    3:22 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    these sentences sound like they came straight off wikipedia



  114. Gaffalicious
    3:26 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    No Delk, Magloire, Kenny Walker, Hayes, “Goose”, Derek Anderson, or Dampier? At least one of these guys should have made it.



  115. Gaffalicious
    3:28 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Oh, and I forgot Derek Anderson.



  116. Gaffalicious
    3:31 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    anguky1, its so adorable when women get so hot and bothered when their sports knowledge is questioned.



  117. Uglymuffin
    4:22 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    My apologies. I did misread this post. Your favorites are your favorites, my bad for insults.



  118. Pops
    4:52 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Again – If this were a list of her favorites, then why would she say all of the spots are debatable except Dan Issel at #1? Is she saying that her favorites are debatable, which makes no sense? Is she saying that she has no choice but to like Dan Issel the most, which, again, makes no sense?

    This is clearly a list of who the author of the post believes to be the 12 best players in program history. It is not a list of her favorites.



  119. Levi
    5:31 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    A lot of posters here would nake my all time jackass list!



  120. dfogg
    6:23 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Cant believe more people dont have Chuck Hayes on here. Hes my all time favprite UK player and its not even close.



  121. 80's Kid
    6:57 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Any List that does not have Kenny “Sky” Walker in the TOP TEN is worthless ! PERIOD



  122. Jewco
    7:08 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Keep it up.



  123. Robukpt
    7:10 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Went from 55 to 36. Glad I missed that. How many times do people hae to say it was HER LIST and therefore subjective. She’s allowed to put whomever she wants in HER list. It ills be Saul smith, Alex legion, Bernard cote, sherry Thomas, etc, etc and you can’t argue bc it’s HER list. The point was to make your own. So well done Laura.



  124. Paducah Patty
    8:08 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Very good job Laura. I always enjoy seeing others list of great UK players. You reminded me of some that I hadn’t thought about. I always liked Dan Issel. My dad used to tell me when I was little that he was my cousin. When I was in first grade I went and told everybody at school. Ha! He also told me that Dean Martin was my uncle. Ah my dad, such a kidder.



  125. SB
    9:10 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Agree…well done Laura! You are comprising a list of favorites that share a piece in UK history no matter how big or small. Stand by your list and welcome the criticism because it will only make you stronger. Being a woman in sports journalism is something to be PROUD of and you have the grace and confidence to include that in a wonderful program. Hang in there!



  126. reasedru
    9:29 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Tony Delk and Kenny Walker



  127. tltaworl
    11:17 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    I am 29 so I don’t remember anything before 87-88
    1. Rex
    2. Shep
    3. Delk
    4. Mash
    5. PPat
    6. Pel
    7. Farmer
    8. Wall
    9. Woods
    10. MKG (Yeah its early and I don’t care. I love watching him every min he is in there)
    11. Jorts – Never been so proud of a kid
    12. Prince
    9.
    10.
    11.
    12.



  128. tltaworl
    11:19 pm December 21, 2011 Permalink

    Correction
    1. Rex
    2. Shep
    3. Delk
    4. Mash
    5. PPat
    6. Pel
    7. Farmer
    8. Wall
    9. Hays
    10. MKG (Yeah its early and I don’t care. I love watching him every min he is in there)
    11. Jorts – Never been so proud of a kid
    12. Prince



  129. sangaman
    4:47 am December 22, 2011 Permalink

    It’s inconceivable to me that Chuck Hayes is not on that list.



  130. derekforuk
    10:53 am December 24, 2011 Permalink

    Yep you pissed of Wayne turner. You internet color commentators, it has been linked. And besides in my age of watching basketball, Wayne turner deff deserves the top 5.