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Is Julius Mays at point guard the solution?

One of Kentucky’s many, many weaknesses last night was point guard play. After Cal anointed him the team’s primary PG, Archie Goodwin looked completely out of sorts against Notre Dame, driving the lane like a ten year old kid and throwing up shots so bad that they hit the shot clock. Archie is an unbelievably talented player, but unless he is playing a much, much inferior opponent, he does not look comfortable in point guard position. He is much more natural in the two-guard spot, but until Ryan Harrow improves, that’s not going to happen.

Unless Cal shifts Julius Mays over. Aside from Nerlens Noel, Mays was the only player last night who knew what he was doing. In the second half, Mays often called for the ball and took it upon himself to score points. Why not let Mays direct the offense in the half-court? He’s already established himself as the team’s leader and is miles ahead of his teammates in terms of control and composure. Archie can still bring up the ball and pass it off to Julius, who will call the plays.

Is Julius at point guard the solution or should we wait for Archie to adjust to the position? Is Julius more valuable coming off the bench?

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96 Comments for Is Julius Mays at point guard the solution?

  1. lawnorder
    11:17 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Damn Tubby!

  2. Caliparty
    11:18 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Yes. this guy is a true leader and knows how to run a half court offensive. He is 6’2 anyway so he has to know how to play PG if he wants to make it in the pros. Cal needs to do us, the team and Julius a favor and start playing Mays at PG.

  3. Inspector Clouseau
    11:19 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    I agree that Mays should be the PG… but it really depends on Cal’s mindset for the season. Does he want to force Goodwin to play point and therefore wait out the inevitable growing pains that would incur, or put Mays there and hope for the best from him ball-handling and defense-wise, while allowing Goodwin to play the position that he was born to play.

    Strange season so far.

  4. Balack Obama
    11:20 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Tomorrow is a new day. BEAT BAYLOR!!

    GO CATS!!

    11:20 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Resist the urge to debate this this troll and his need for attention. It only encourages more of his comments. You will not be the one to change his opinion.

  6. Mike
    11:21 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    This team has shown that they have a lot of talent, but they all play so soft. Cal needs to import some beef to go along with the height and talent. I am also beginning to wonder if Harrow hasn’t been overrated along the way. He seems to need a heart and pride transplant.

  7. Beatle Bum
    11:21 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    I know that people said that Mays would be a good combo guard for the Cats when he transferred from Wright, but I think he is a SG. I do no think he is the PG answer. Goodwin needs to demonstrate PG abilities so he can solidify his draft stock. He is undersized for an NBA 2g and does not have outstanding range (the thing that can get you a solid roster spot even if you are undersized). He has the athleticism, but his draft status is measurably increased if he can prove PG skills. He may do that with time, but it has not been on display yet. We may just not have the necessary component this year. Gonna hurt.

  8. mashley
    11:22 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    We were saying this last year (move daron lamb to PG in place of teaugue). How did that turn out for us? It’s November/Early December folks. relax, Believe in Cal. let’s let him be the decision maker here and sit back and watch the prograssion.

  9. RaleighCat
    11:22 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    No, Mays isn’t the answer at PG. A healty & motivated Ryan Harrow is the best answer. A slightly more stable Polson is the 2nd best answer. A much more controlled Goodwin is the 3rd best answer.

    Mays is a 2. Period. What games are you watching to think otherwise?

  10. Bledsoe's Biceps
    11:23 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    I’ll leave that decision to Cal. He’s paid pretty well to make it. And I don’t get the love you and Drew keep showing for Noel’s game/effort last night. He was very ineffective until very late in the game.

  11. RaleighCat
    11:24 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    BTW- Goodwin is a 2/3 and needs to be on the court 80% of the time. I didn’t mean to indicate he shouldn’t be playing. Not playing the point is what I mean.

  12. Ouch
    11:24 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    I saw an awfully lot of entitlement leaving the floor last night. If these guys think they are going pro anytime soon, they are not smart enough to be in college. I didn’t expect a top ten team entering this year and they certainly confirmed that. We are a top 20 team and will be much better by the end of the year or these guys will be charting plays on the bench. Too, I didn’t expect to see a Coach Cal Team quit like they did. I think that was the most disappointing thing. I can see some of these guys moving on as they may not want to play in this system. If you look up slow in the dictionary, whose picture do you think you’ll see.

  13. D
    11:25 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Still so early, but if you’d told me 3 weeks ago a KSR post on Nov 30 would be titled “Is Julius Mays at point guard the solution?” I would have been more than a bit concerned…Cat 67, Baylor 63.

  14. Inspector Clouseau
    11:25 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    9) I agree with that in principle, but those are two huge question marks about Harrow. I think the main thrust of the question is what is the best option for the time being? Harrow seems lost out there on top of all the other issues. I hope he becomes what we all thought he could be, but even when healthy he looked pretty out of sync.

  15. nassau65
    11:26 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    5. completely agree. many have called the troll out on saying Cal will not get a NC at UK. rather than admit he said it, he just denies it and continues to troll. IU fan in disguise, just stirring the pot. He will no longer get a response from me. Just a shame we don’t have an ignore option.

  16. H.A.Milton
    11:28 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Unfortunately, I do not think that plugging any 2 guard in will solve the problem of not having a point guard. I’d be willing to bet money that Cal never puts all his PG eggs in one basket again becuase we all have to come to terms with the fact that it has changed outlook for this season entirely. And thats not to say that we may not enjoy a successful season, but it will not (and has not) been what we all expected. #grabatop150guynextyearjusttobesafe

  17. The Hoff
    11:28 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    All I know is Mays was feeding Noel nicely in the second half.

  18. sunnycat
    11:29 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Cal is the best recruiter in the land bar none. With that being said how on earth are we in a situation with virtually no PG. No disrespect to Harrow but he is not ready for the bright lights and big stage at KY. Look at what he did at Nc State and tell me you want the seasons results depending on Harrow.

  19. Rod Strickland's Secret Smile
    11:29 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Folks, I know everyone’s frustrated with Goodwin right now, but he’s the long-term answer at point guard, not Mays. I really like Mays, and think he makes a very good 2 or 3 for the Cats. He does not penetrate like Cal needs the point guard in his system to penetrate. The main point of the dribble drive offense is to make the best use of your players’ superior quickness and jumping ability by putting someone in position to drive to the basket, drawing double teams that leave other cutters open for passes or offensive rebounds. That’s why you get the dunk fests when that offense is clicking.

    Mays can handle the ball sometimes, but he’s not going to be that guy who slashes to the basket. Harrow might yet make it there, but I think his upside is serving as the backup point guard at the end of the year. Our offense will be dependent on how Goodwin and Poythress develop. Those are the stars.

    By the end of the year, the team is:

    1 Goodwin
    2 Mays
    3 Poythress
    4 Wiltjer
    5 Noel

    Harrow and Cauley Stein, come of the bench, with Polson getting a couple of minutes. It will be a good team, and will probably make the Elite 8 as a 3 seed with 8 losses. And then, we’ll see what happens.

  20. sunnycat
    11:32 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    10. Agree.

  21. sunnycat
    11:35 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Noel just went for a pump fake.

  22. joey
    11:35 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    For now mayes can be a great asset at PG.. Maybe not the long term answer, but it is definitely something that can be done for now!!

  23. scratch
    11:35 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    We needed to get punched in the mouth. We got it. Lets…..GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

  24. KernWhiskey
    11:35 am November 30, 2012 Permalink


  25. Dontpanicyet
    11:35 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    It looks like Cal is still experimenting with the line-up. He obviously knows that we can’t have a 4 headed point guard position in March – but it ain’t March. We will continue to take some lumps until he finds the right stride. When you have a 4 man rotation at one position in basketball it is going to be ugly – it is impossible to get comfortable in the flow of the game and hard to build chemistry between the players on the court. My opinion – Ryan and Jared rotating at point with Archie and Mays at the 2 – and when playing undersized guards moving to Archie at starting point with Jared as a back up and starting Mays at 2 with Ryan as a back up. It is important to keep Ryan in the flow of the game for a lot of reasons – he will have no success in short spurts of minutes.

  26. Just Wondering
    11:36 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    I don’t think Wiltjer can play extended minutes at this level. He is just tooooo slow. He is a liability on defense and really on offense as well because he can’t get a shot off. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone at KY this slow, seriously slow. I think I saw moss growing on him.

  27. Paul in Frankfort
    11:37 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    By annointing Goodwin as the starting PG, Calipari pretty much admitted that Harrow is not good enough to be his starting PG. People keep saying “give him time to come back from illness”, lets be real people– there never was an illness. The pressure and circumstances got to Harrow. It happened at NC State, as well. The “mystery illness” was an inability to play in pressure packed games. Harrow will not start again for Cal. I think Goodwin is the answer, long term. We need Mays scoring, and he’s best suited as a SG. Goodwin will get better with time, like Tyreke Evans did. Be patient. But please, Harrow is gone in my mind.

  28. Oogie
    11:37 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Sean, is that you?

  29. Oogie
    11:38 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    ^^^ That was meant for #10

  30. louis
    11:39 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Louisville will Not support an NBA team. Too expensive

  31. sunnycat
    11:39 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    How many points has Noel given up on layups by going for every single pump fake. Looks like he would have learned by now especially after Curry done it to him and laughed in his face after scoring on him and then getting back on D.

  32. bluefan
    11:41 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    #25 Definitely agree that Coach is still experimenting with the lineup. None of you can seriously think he plans on playing Harrow, Polson, Wiltjer and Hood together come February. At least not in a close game situation.
    He’ll figure it out. I personally think it’s going to be fun to watch how this team develops and grows.

  33. Victor
    11:42 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    I feel like Mays can be like Miller coming off the bench to provide a spark that is much needed. I think that when Harrow gets back to full strength and becomes more game ready he will be our PG because we need a facilitator to help scores like Goodwin and Poythress. We will not win when our two biggest scores combine for 6 points.

  34. NKY_UK_fan
    11:42 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Well, in other news, my company downsized and my position has been eliminated. I have Risk Management/Insurance Sales & Marketing experience as a manager. Anyone hiring in Northern Kentucky?

  35. reedwizard
    11:42 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Mays is a two, Goodwin is a two. I think Harrow has to be our point and Cal’s mind games aren’t working. Polson and Mays off the bench to run the 2nd team and Mays the main rotation player at the guard position. You can play small with Harrow, Mays & Goodwin at the 3 and have Mays/Goodwin at the same time when going big when Harrow is out. I think the key is Harrow. This experiment is killing Archie’s game.

    Why doesn’t Cal run the high post through Wiltjer or Poythress? Makes no sense to me…

  36. Jeremy San Diego
    11:43 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    We forced Michael Porter to play point and he ended up in jail. Keep Archie at the 2 where he can come off the screens. Julius is the answer right now. Harrow has zero confidence and lost about 60 pounds during his sickness. He’s not vocal enough, Julius has proven to be a leader and can direct the plays.

  37. random dude
    11:43 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    NO and no offense but KSR still doesn’t have a writer that knows more than the average person about basketball.

    The offense needs to run through Mays more and probably will but just because he makes good decisions with the ball doesn’t mean he’s a good point guard. He is effective receiving the ball on the wing where he can either get a step on his defender and find the open man or put up a shot, for him to bring the ball up the court would take him out of the offense more than anything.

    We are just not that good right now, there is no silver bullet. Either we’ll get better and make a run, or we won’t.

  38. Ryan Harrow
    11:44 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Hey guys give me a chance its still early werent yall bitchin about teague like this at this point last year? He ended up being pretty good….

  39. bluefan
    11:45 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    So sorry #34.

  40. tom5673
    11:46 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    can anyone tell me how cauley is #15 on’s mock board? don’t say “potential” either. what a joke! i’m convinced there is a conspiracy by other coaches to plug these draft boards and talk up our players to nba scouts to get them out of the college game as soon as possible. kind of like when other coaches would go overboard at what a great coach tubby was, and how we were so lucky to have a coach like him at uk. the nba bullsh*t needs to stop.
    how are teague and lamb doing? could have really used them this year. bitter…

  41. Rick Roy
    11:47 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    WHY IS THERE SO MUCH TALK ABOUT A NEW PG?? Harrow has been sick and then away form the team. Hello?? He will be our PG!! Putting Mays or Goodwin at PG will totally eliminate our 2 best scorers! If Harrow does not run PG we will not be good. End of story!

  42. Biglaw Dawgin'
    11:47 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Why does everyone keep saying Noel played well and looked like he knew what he was doing last night? He missed about 5 easy layups, committed numerous stupid fouls, and got “beast-moded” by a mediocre white boy on a consistent basis on the boards and in the paint. Cooley had 6 Offensive boards! That’s just unbelievable and unacceptable for a player who’s supposed to be the best center in the NCAA. Mark my words, Noel is not a top-10 pick type of player (at this time at least).

  43. Joey
    11:47 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    there is way to many coached on here!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many of your won a NCAA title last year?? Yeah thats right none of you!! Everybody please chill the heck out!!!

  44. sunnycat
    11:49 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    What has Harrow done to make anyone think he is the answer at PG? He couldnt handle the pressure at Nc State. The mysterious “illness” is the kids cant handle it mentally and there is nothing Cal or anyone else can do about it except maybe a shrink.

  45. tom5673
    11:50 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    oh, and don’t say to become a millionaire either. teague makes $857,000/year, while lamb only makes $650,000/year. after they buy their family some cars and/or homes and a pimped out house and car for themselves and ice down on the jewelry, there won’t be anything left. they could have stayed in college for another year, improved their game and draft status to possible lottery level because this year’s draft is very weak, and potentially knocked down kidd-gilchrist type money ($4.6 million/year). they weren’t ready…period.

  46. Pot Meet Kettle
    11:51 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Dear #37 aka Random Dude, If you are going to be criticizing writers, your argument would
    hold more weight if you could learn the difference between “offence” and “offense”. Amen.

  47. Jeremy San Diego
    11:53 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    I forgot about WCS. He’s just a little better than Eloy Vargas, doesn’t impact the game at all. Had 4 points yesterday and we were praising that. Nerlens needs to learn to not leave his feet everytime a player shot fakes. Surprised that he’s still doing that.

  48. nassau65
    11:53 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    34. sorry to hear that, man. good luck with the job search.

  49. KC Cat
    11:53 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Harrow might not be the starting point, but he HAS to be 2nd in line. No offense, but Polson can’t come in until we’re up 10 and need breathers.

  50. Noel????
    11:53 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    NOEL???? Don’t confuse activity with accomplishment.

  51. sunnycat
    11:56 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    42. Third mediocre big man to totally DOMINATE Noel. Maryland, Duke, ND and Baylor will be next.

  52. Practice
    11:56 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Practice this bunch don’t need no practice. Actually, I’d love to watch the next practice. I bet there will be a lot of whip arse going on, old time basketball practice. One like these guys have never seen except for in the movies.

  53. Seanukcats
    11:59 am November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Everyone please relax! We will be fine as long as the players learn from this and realize this is not high school anymore. harrow will be fine once he starts playing with some confidence and quits hesitating bc of thinking too much. I’m just as anxious as the next guy when it comes to the players playing up to their potential. It’s gonna happen eventually, I guarantee it! We started the season ranked alot higher than what we should have been. Come march tho we will be deserving of that #3 preseason ranking if cal can get these young men to buy into his master plan. Cal does it better than prob any other coach in college basketball so I have faith in him. All the negative Nancy’s that feel like we should be a national championship caliber team 6 games into the season are being ridiculous and asking for too much! Instead of complaining about the players and bashing them every other comment, be thankful for what we do have! Rather be a true blue uk fan or find another team to bash!

  54. Hang Ten!!!!!!!
    12:00 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Archie needs to shoot more 3’s to keep em honest. Dribble. drive. step. back.

  55. agreed
    12:00 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    NOEL???? Don’t confuse activity with accomplishment. THIS

  56. Dr Mantis Taboggin
    12:00 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Mays is way too slow to be a PG. He already get’s blown by guarding the two guards, him and cauley stein should have red capes as they look like matadors trying to guard someone. Goodwin is awful at the point thats a given but Mays isn’t the answer, it’s that bum Harrow or I’d rather see Polson. It’s not gonna get any better Saturday that little PG for Baylor is lightning quick he gave Teague fits last year and the way we let that mediocre point from ND eat us up im scared for Saturday.

  57. Steely Dan
    12:02 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    13) Did you just say Julius Mays (at a whopping 6’2″) should be playing the 3?

  58. Weege
    12:02 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Youre all nuts. Harrow will be our starting PG in the end, so we may as well go with him now. The more he plays the better he will run the offense.

  59. OwensboroDavid
    12:02 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Harrow needs to run point, end of story. Let Polson back Harrow up.

  60. blah blah blah
    12:10 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    is there a reason every team in the country doesn’t play a zone defense against us? I mean my grandmother could have guarded us last night while we dribbled around outside the three point line……you have to penetrate under control against a zone or pass the ball…..we don’t do either very well…..personally, i think Mays is under control enough to run the point position. All the point does is set it up, get the team under control and dish it off. its usually the second or third pass that is driving to the basket.

  61. sangaman
    12:10 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Has anyone made the Patrick Sparks comparison yet?

  62. teelow
    12:12 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    I’d like to see harrow, mays, goodwin, poythress, and noel start. I love wiltjer but I’m sorry he just can’t defend and if he’s not making threes he’s a liability out there. Maybe he can find his groove coming off the bench again. I just don’t wanna see the guys I saw last night trying to beat Louisville’s press.

  63. Not Nerlens
    12:12 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    53 – We won’t be a title contender in March either. Everyone who thinks this team is the team from two years ago and that we will be so much better in March needs to take off their blue tinted goggles. This team is not as talented or deep as the team from two years ago.

    I’m not saying this team won’t be better in March, but we were overrated preseason and are still overrated.

  64. sunnycat
    12:16 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    If you think Harrow is the answer read his bio on UK’s official site. He had “illness” there to.

  65. sunnycat
    12:18 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Harrow has already had a year of practice under Cal how much more time does he need?

  66. JJK
    12:20 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    This team should sink or swim with Harrow at the point. The kid practiced with and against the national championship team all last season & based on his performance Cal apparently thought he was talented enough to play point for this years team since he did not recruit a point guard. Goodwin is a great talent, but he is not a point guard now & he will not be a point guard 4 months from now. Harrow or Bust!

  67. No.
    12:21 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Seriously? Lack of defense, Poythress as a no-show and Wiltjer missing wide open 3s hurt UK way more than Goodwin playing out of control. Goodwin will be fine at the point and it is absolutely essential that he learn if he ever wants to play in the NBA.

  68. BuD LiGhT
    12:22 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Mays at point, Goodwin #2. And just a note Coach, tell Kyle to “PUT THE DAMN BALL IN THE BASKET AND STOP SHOOTING LIKE A 10 YEAR OLD.” He’s getting so bad with his 3’s that I don’t think he can throw a BB in a silo.

  69. Delk for 3
    12:25 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    I see Noel as a young kid with a tremendous amount of upside. I don’t think he is close to being a finished product. I think he is certainly someone I’d want to coach and go to battle with, though. He seems to be a great kid and a player who gives a lot of effort. I see him as what he is: a very talented freshman who is very inexperienced and a victim of ridiculously high expectations. I think he has shown some great flashes and has also shown that he has a mediocre basketball IQ. Once his IQ in basketball rises, and his individual development increases, he will be a fearsome player down low. Right now he’s just getting schooled by some experienced players. I really like Nerlens and am proud that he plays for Kentucky.

  70. Delk for 3
    12:27 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Mays hasn’t practiced as the point guard for one minute yet this entire season. He is not going to play point guard. Get used to it.

  71. EyewearMan
    12:29 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    People need to honestly chill! 1 Bad game does not a season make. Goodwin, Poythress, & Noel are our STARS! They need the ball a LOT! Last night Poythress never was able to get into the game due to FOUL TROUBLE! Archie was a little out of control trying to win it by himself, and NOEL is not great yet offensively. This team will come around and will make Sweet 16 minimum. But the CATS brought home #8 last year, so let’s give the guys a break! We played well enough to win against a better team in Maryland, and we played well against a really GOOD DUKE team. Notre Dame is not very good, and the CATS were awful last night. But they will get better. I believe they will Beat Baylor!

  72. Delk for 3
    12:35 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Alex has to be on the floor for us. We just can’t be a good team without him. It is very important that he stays out of foul trouble and I don’t know if you can sit him for so long just because he had two fouls. That was a mistake by Cal last night. I will say that it seems the refs hit us with some ticky-tack calls early on last night.

  73. Not Nerlens
    12:36 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    62 – Ideally, this could be the lineup, but its just not feasible right now. I think CAL would love to bench Wiltjer because of rebounding and defense, but he and Mays are the only two real threats to hit the outside shot with any consistency.

    List of Team Issues
    1.) Harrow – Without him being the PG that he was brought here to be, this team has very little hope. Even more than ability, he doesn’t appear to be the type of leader that we’ve seen from Wall, Knight, and Teague. People can say what they want about Teague, but he was vocal and a natural leader on the floor.
    2.) Goodwin – His issue is that he is not a PG. I think CAL wants to say that he is our PG because Harrow has been a bust and Goodwin is the only other guy with potential here. Archie could be special but he is much more dangerous paired with a true PG on the floor.
    3.) Mays – He is also not a PG. I think he could give you some minutes here in a pinch, but Mays is not the answer at PG. Mays is a definitely threat and ideally all 3 of these guys could be on the court at the same time.
    4.) Poythress – He is also part of the problem, because he is not agressive enough. He will probably have 4 more plays this year that make the Sportscenter Top 10 and make scouts drool, but he needs to be more assertive. As one of the best players on this team, he needs to bring it as much as posssible.
    5.) Wiltjer – Defense and rebounding are atrocious.
    6.) Noel and WCS – If Noel and/or WCS could develop into rebounding/defensive beasts in the post than this team could have a much higher ceiling.

  74. I Just won #8
    12:38 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Am I just dreaming that we won a title only 7 months ago? Not to mention losing the bulk of our leadership, scoring, and defensive prowess? Wait…no I’m not. These kids will be fine. Cal is as skilled a psychologist as any shrink. Give him time to get these players in the right mindset to win big games.

  75. Go UK
    12:43 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Love the Cats and will always support them, however, I have a problem with our guys who have ESPN come and hold an individual press conference just for the commitment. They have bought into the thought that they are the next “coming” and we support that. When they wake up and realize they are 20 points behind and they are not what they thought they were, I expect to see them play through it with every ounce of energy they have. I didn’t see that last night. I saw guys walking around thinking they would stage a comeback because of their press clippings from high school. I’d like to see the team take the floor Saturday with a little embarrassment from the two defeats and a whole lot of humble pie all over their faces. Oh, and by the way if Mays is slow there is not category for Wiltjer.

  76. Alan Cutler's Mustache
    12:46 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Although Mays is playing beter than I thought he would, he is not quick enough to be UK’s starting PG. He will get beat like a drum against the quicker guards. He should end up being a solid sub at both guard spots at the end of the season.

  77. RealCatsFan
    12:51 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Sigh – I would bet if I took the time to go all the way back in the comments of KSR shortly after the loss to UConn in Maui, I would be reading a lot of similar comments. That team got taken to school by UConn in much the same way as this team did by ND. There were similar “sky is falling” posts being thrown around. It is way too early in the season for us to panic, folks! I never thought this team was championship material, but there is still plenty of raw talent on this team, and plenty of time for them to develop into a team that is capable of a nice run in March! Take a deep breath and relax, people! We will take some lumps along the way, but we will be fine by late February. And if not, then look at the bright side – maybe a couple of our studs from this year will hang around and join next year’s incoming class, A’La Jones and Lamb. I will be at the Baylor game tomorrow in section 23 to cheer on our boys! I’ll have my nephew with me, and it will be his birthday, so win one for him, Cats!

  78. RealCatsFan
    12:52 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Oh yeah, to address the post at hand, even if Mays could handle the ball well enough to serve as PG on offense, he does not have the quickness to guard most elite D1 PG’s.

  79. RealCatsFan
    12:54 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    One more question: Is there any way to pick up the radio call of the game while inside Rupp? Would love to listen to Leach while watching it live. Would be even better if I could get it on my smart phone, but IHeart is blocked during home games, apparently.

  80. Delk for 3
    12:56 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    In my opinion, this pointing to point guard play as the main reason for our team’s struggles is way over-hyped. This team is flat out not getting it done offensively at any spot on the floor and they are not working together to score. Having a passing point guard wouldn’t take away from the fact that are guys aren’t working without the ball, the bigs don’t play strong enough, and the guys aren’t feeding off one another’s successes. The guys are playing as soft and as slow as any team in the entire nation. I see A LOT wrong with the offense and really do not see it stemming from not having a true point guard.

  81. HEY
    1:01 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Its going to be Harrow at point. end of story. Cal just trying to toughen him up right now, which he needs

  82. UKBlue
    1:50 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Our offense it beyond lost. Screw it, Harrow may not be ready, but it’s time to man up. Throw his ass out there, and lets go. Run Harrow at point, Mays at the 2, Alex & Archie at the forwards spots, and Noel at center. Speaking of Alex, someone needs to light a fire under his ass because he stands around way too much, he needs to ask himself WWMKGD.

  83. Maxps8
    1:54 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    YES!!! I’ve said it from the start of this season (3-wks ago.) Mays just makes more sense at point as a Senior and it allows the FR Goodwin to remain in his position. It was-is good for Archie to learn the PG position but when we it comes to winning, Julius is the man.

  84. Dr. Tom
    2:10 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    It is hard to believe a second year transfer just needs playing time to come around but I think that is exactly what Harrow needs. Maybe if he either starts or comes off the bench and gets a few minutes under his belt he will gain his confidence and begin to play better. You gotta believe playing against Teague all last year isn’t all lost.

  85. kingrex
    2:51 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    #26 and #27 – you guys nailed it. I think we are looking at the first real mistake by Cal in Harrow. It boggles the mind how this kid was here for a full year practicing with the team and they seriously believed he was still the answer! We all know Teague was not ready for the NBA and I had heard those same damn legends of red-shirting transfers who were dominating practices. The insinuation was Teague saw the writing on the wall and figured he would leave early for the NBA because Harrow would start over him in the coming year. Ummm what? I am not just bashing the kid, but Cal should have vetted this situation more thoroughly. Harrow was there last year watching Teague get coached or yelled at on a daily basis, so he had to know what was coming and should have been honest with himself before this year. Witjer should not be on the court. Unfortunately teams are keying on him out by the three point line and if he is not hitting 5 threes a game, he should simply be sitting. He is too slow and youu cannot fix slow. There does not appear to be much hustle from him either. That being said if the offense was working the way it is supposed to and you have people actually penetrating off the dribble and can attract defenders then Witjer could sit out there all day hitting open shots. I am sure this is what everyone envisioned coming into this year. There may have been a head cold for Harrow, but the family business is all code for needing to go home and decide if he wants to play on this level at UK. Period.

  86. Strategery
    3:12 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    I think Cal has no choice but to play more zone. I really get irriated with coaches that have a “system” and allow the system to dictate strategy rather than the personnel we have.’

    This is a bad defensive team that has the length to be a good zone team…so play it.

  87. sunnycat
    3:22 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Mays is slow and gets beat off the dribble? Then Goodwin is slow too because he gets beat just as much as anyone else does.

  88. Real fan
    3:30 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Let’s see we have a team of freshmen playing like well FRESHMEN. Mays is not a PG. Cals teams always get better over the Christmas break always. Give this team a little time Cal will have them playing at a high level. Last years team spoiled us all. Most freshmen don’t come in playing as well as we did last year. Harrow CAN play just let Cal do his thing. We do have a good team. It’s just going to take some time

  89. JJK
    3:55 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    86. I completely agree. This team should be playing some zone defense, especially when Wiltjer is in the game. I think Baylor would be perfect to play some zone against, but it seems that it will be a cold day in hell before we see any zone defense being tried by Cal.

  90. Dear Lord
    4:17 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    We don’t have a point guard right now. But, to be the most dynamic team we can be by March, Goodwin needs to be that guy. So why don’t we let him work into a position he’s been playing for a month instead of overreacting when he’s been at the spot for five games? Archie can and will do the job, but it might take a little while. If Harrow can somehow get it together (I’m not holding my breath), this team can become better faster. If not, it’s going to be a growing process that will stretch well into SEC play.

    I like Mays’ game, but he’s not dynamic enough to play point guard in this system. He doesn’t have the quickness to break down defenders or finishing ability amongst the trees that the position requires for Cal. He’s similar to Doron Lamb, but not as good a finisher and several inches shorter.

  91. REAL FAN
    4:30 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Isn’t cal the coach at UK. When did we hire 86 and 89 to run the defence.

  92. REAL FAN
    4:34 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    #89 I hate to bust your bubble, but Cal tried the zone against Duke and Notre Dame and they got killed. So at least know what your talking about.

  93. JJK
    5:34 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    91. I admit I know nothing about “defence”.

  94. Katdaddy
    6:26 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Noel is overrated a little but he does give effort. He needs to stop trying to punch the ball out and and play d with his hands up. he wont ever break davis’s record the way he plays d. his hands are down and guys shot right over him.

  95. bort
    6:45 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    Goodwin was a total ball-hog. He was wild and out of control. The other players were just standing around like, gee, what do I do besides watch Archie take it to the basket. The offense was terrible last night. For those of you criticizing Wiltjer, please note that our offense totally sucks when he is not in the game. The threat of Wiltjer shooting 3s is what opens the lane up for Goodwin and Poythress. In the Maryland game, Ky. could not score the basketball when Wiltjer was on the bench. Notre Dame clogged the lane last night and Goodwin looked foolish and out of control.

  96. Ms Kentucky
    9:48 pm November 30, 2012 Permalink

    The only draft these guys are gonna get close to is the one blowin’ in the window of the Coal Lodge.