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How Important Is Big Blue Madness?

It’s not time to start throwing up your tents with a couple hundred of your closest Wildcat pals, but the RSVPs for Big Blue Madness are already starting to come in.  In the past couple of days, Shabazz Muhammad, Willie Cauley, TJ Warren,  Chris Walker and Dakari Johnson have gone public with their Lexington travel itineraries.  They’ll likely be wowed with the fireworks and the Black Eyed Peas and whatever else UK has to offer, but are the guests at the first practice of the season a good indication of what a recruiting class can bring?  Maybe not.

In the last two years, John Calipari has hosted eight players (Michael Kidd-Gilchrist twice).  Four of them were already committed.  The other four went elsewhere.  Unless you count Kidd-Gilchrist in 2009, which is probably fair, the Cats have not signed a Big Blue Madness visitor.  Here’s the list:

2010 Big Blue Madness Visitors

Anthony Davis
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Marquis Teague
Kyle Wiltjer

2009 Big Blue Madness Visitors

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Kyrie Irving
CJ Leslie
Tobias Harris
Achraf Yacoubou

And while the Cats had Irving, Leslie, Harris and Yacoubou in 2009, Washington had Terrence Jones and Kansas had Brandon Knight and Doron Lamb.  So is the list of Big Blue Madness attendees a sure sign of what the next recruiting class might bring?  Maybe not.  But it’s the only place you’ll see them dance.

Article written by Thomas Beisner

25 Comments for How Important Is Big Blue Madness?

  1. PatPattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor
    1:10 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    I’m still pissed about missing out on Tobias Harris. Love that kid’s game and it turned out to be such a waste in going to Knoxville.

  2. Catfan
    1:11 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    Numero UNO!

  3. Z.Rex
    1:12 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    I think it’s a case-by-case basis; it’s impossible to simply say it’s either important or not important because it’s a sliding scale. This year, I think it’s huge. We seemed to have gained ground with Muhammed recently, and the other three seem to be wide open so it could make a huge impact.

    …and I still can’t get used to “Kidd-Gilchrist”.

  4. Catfan
    1:13 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    Hijos de perra

  5. SexnNursinHomes
    1:14 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    Irving was never going to UK, yacoboo no idea, Harris wasn’t going to UK, cuz BP had his phone number set on automatic re-dial. Leslie was going to NC St where all of his friends were at. Funny that Harrow is now here. So yeah it’s important for recruits who are seriously considering UK.

    Unwashed vaginas.

  6. natural macaroni
    1:17 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    wow…buzz kill.

  7. Diddydiddy
    1:20 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    Yo me quierro y a la Big Blue Madness!

  8. SagaciousMind
    1:25 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    I didnt think CJ Leslie was at BBM, I know he was at the Blue-White game. #1 Tobias Harris or Terrence Jones…I’ll stick with the guy thats still here and will be a beast. Harris should have known goin to UT was a bad idea, look at Scotty Hopson. But seriously, it didnt mean much before because those guys pretty much already knew where they were going. This group is a different story, guys with serious UK interest, and it features multiple classes. BBM has worked in the past before, Orton committed the day after, John Wall once attended BBM. Plus, its a banner night so the crowd will be extra hype. Cant wait for camping to begin in one month!!

  9. jkwoftw
    1:27 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    Well, you have to count Gilchrist.. if you’re doing all or nothing, then let’s suppose BBM gets all the credit for getting Gilly and all the blame for losing the others, which puts our odds with these guys at 20% (1 out of 5, and last year doesn’t count bc they were already committed.)

    In that case, going by the established precedent, the most likely result is that we land 1 or 2 of the kids from this year’s BBM. We have 7 top 30 visitors this year, and 20% of 7 is 1.4. Theoretically, this is the average number of recruits we’d gain from BBM if we replayed the scenario an infinite number of times.

    Or we could just acknowledge that Kyrie was never going here, Cal wanted Terrence over Leslie, and that no one has ever heard of Yocoubou so Cal probably never offered him, and realize that all of this is case-by-case.

  10. SagaciousMind
    1:28 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    Oh and it’s being said Alex Poythress is attending as well.


    Am I missing one? And has there ever been this many?

  11. mannyisi
    1:30 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    C.J. Leslie reported he would be there up until the day of the event, but did not show up. Just a minor correction.

  12. Alex Kline
    1:32 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink


  13. jkwoftw
    1:40 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    ..and expect that number to go up, as well. Evan Daniels said several others are attending who haven’t announced yet.

  14. Johnson
    1:42 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    Its a whole lot more important that we have Cal. BBM means very little without Cal.

  15. UKGoBigBlue
    1:45 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    The real question should be, with the NBA lockout in full effect why not use it to our advantage; how many Ex-UK Current Pro basketball players are going to be at midnight madness to help recruiting. Wall & Shab talk on twitter, why not bring back the crew of Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe, Patterson, Jorts, Rondo, and whoever else wants to show up. Could we even see another Drake sighting? This might be the best time to bring in a ton of recruits to show them the love & craziness of the Big Blue Nation.

  16. stevem
    1:51 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    #14 is correct. Without Cal BBM had become stale and actually quite boring. I don’t think it had a great effect on recruits. With Cal it is much better, but I’m still skeptical about how much it really influences a kid.

  17. SagaciousMind
    1:58 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    16, all BBM does it give this kids a chance to see the rabid fan base and what a game might feel like in there. That actually means a lot to players. Many players have said they interested in UK cuz of the supportive fan base. Kids wanna play in packed arenas with thousands going nuts, not play somewhere that never fills up and feels like a funeral. Is it the deciding factor? Probably not. But it’s definitely influential. Like last year when camping for madness, I saw the Harrison twins in Joe Craft with Coach Payne. That is a perfect time for kids to come cuz they see how dedicated the fans are, camping out when its freezing cold at night just to watch a practice. And look, we are in their top 6. I’m sure that’s not the main reason, but it helps. And about the twins, I’m really suprised Baylor is the only TX school on their list. I really thought it would come down to UT vs UK for them.

  18. cope
    1:59 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    Does anyone have any information on when campout is allowed this year… and what date tickets go on sale. appreciate the info guys?

  19. wkylawcat
    2:16 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    ’09 probably isn’t a fair look. As already stated Leslie didn’t make the trip. the others were all New Yorkers and we weren’t all that interested at the time in two of them (Harris being the exception). The purpose was to have Gilchrist comfortable with people he knew. Mission of the ’09 visits accomplished.

  20. Doubting Thomas
    2:17 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    I’ll let Coach do the recruiting and I’ll enjoy BBM. I doubt seriously if it has any impact on the kids except maybe the ones Coach already has in his pocket. They want to feel the love before they sign on the dotted line. GO CATS!

  21. No dancing allowed!
    2:35 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    sometimes it’s strange to think why don’t some (alex the great) go ahead and commit already, then i think them boys want to travel and see… either way, i like the list attendees….

  22. No dancing allowed!
    2:35 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    sometimes it’s strange to think why don’t some (alex the great) go ahead and commit already, then i think them boys want to travel and see… either way, i like the list attendence….

  23. schwing
    3:25 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    so does this mean we don’t get shabazz? he’s attending but not yet committed.

  24. tooter
    3:50 pm August 30, 2011 Permalink

    Um looks like he signed all of the for 2010