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Gregg Doyel on UNC scandal: Banners need to come down

After flying under the national media’s radar for months (we reported on it in May), it appears the UNC academic fraud scandal is finally getting some attention. This afternoon, our pal Gregg Doyel came out with the harshest words yet for the esteemed institution, saying “there are some banners at the Smith Center that need to come down” as a result of tainted classes and academic advisers steering players towards them.

Why all this movement from the media now? Julius Peppers’ transcript, which was discovered on the UNC website by a NC State fan over the weekend. Doyel says that Peppers’ transcript, which shows his 1.8 GPA and several of the bogus classes in question, is proof that the UNC academic fraud began (at least) in 2001, a good six years before the school claimed it did:

Answers are coming, but already we know this: The scandal spanned the decade from 2001-11. Know what happened that decade? The UNC men’s basketball team played in three Final Fours. It won national titles in 2005 and ’09.

Did any players on those NCAA championship teams attend bogus classes? According to the News & Observer, almost 67 percent of the students in those 54 classes were athletes. Most played football, but the newspaper reported that UNC records showed “basketball players had also enrolled. In two of the classes, the sole enrollee was a basketball player.”

See, this is so much worse than what happened at Florida State — and Florida State vacated two seasons of saintly Bobby Bowden’s victories, suffered scholarship restrictions and received four years of probation.

Ball’s in your court, Emmert.

Article written by Mrs. Tyler Thompson

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100 Comments for Gregg Doyel on UNC scandal: Banners need to come down



  1. what the what
    4:05 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    I can’t wait to see that school crash and burn.



  2. Bob
    4:06 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    I wonder what Bob Knight will have to say about this. Probably nothing since they are not Kentucky.



  3. Ricky Penetrator
    4:08 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    nothing will come of this – Carolina is untouchable by the media and doesnt have a coach that everyone wants to “catch” –



  4. nybrasky
    4:11 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    I can’t even fathom if this was UK. It would be THE story of college athletics. As is, this UNC thing is only just now getting attention and mostly from the NC area, KY & Kansas. Even if it was UK from 2001-2009, pre-Calipari and much of media darling Tubby’s time – the media would spin it as a Calipari issue.



  5. Ofra
    4:13 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Thank GOD for Doyel. At least one member of the media has the nuts to stand up to bias. Doyel Rules!



  6. ribin
    4:14 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Cover of Sports Illustrated — Shame of NC — take some banners down — cut some scholarships — ahhh probably not – as others have said –NCAA isn’t looking for NC — oh well —



  7. Academics
    4:15 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    This is beyond the NCAA. I am not for sure why KSR is not running this story constantly. It is by far the biggest NCAA case in the history. It does not include agents/money, but includes the worst cheating of all..academic fraud at a major univeristy. What good is a degree at a university if the university is making fake diplomas? Seriously, this should be top story.

    Matt – please get Doyle on the radio tomorrow. This story needs to be told and talked about, not because it is UNC but because this issue needs to be addressed on local, regional and national level!



  8. schwing
    4:15 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    #5: haha. (o’)doyel rules!



  9. Banners?
    4:17 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Why are there six banners when they have 5 championships?



  10. barn
    4:18 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    zoiks. if this was UK it would mean the end of our fball and
    Basketball programs as we know them. death. but, since it is unc the most that will be made of it will probably what is made on here. it will just fade away like the corey magette non incident at dook.



  11. UKChillfan
    4:19 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    NCAA will never do anything to UNC



  12. HillbillyInBC
    4:20 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    That fraudulent banner on the left in this photo needs to come down at the very least.



  13. Real UK Fan
    4:23 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    If any of you think the NCAA is going to come down hard on UNC, you are dreaming. UNC is off limits. It doesn’t matter what they do it will never be properly investigated.



  14. barn
    4:24 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    9–wikipedia says in 1936 they were retroactively named national champions of 1924 by the helms athletic foundation (whatever the hell that is) for their undefeated season 26-0



  15. Reality
    4:25 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    The NCAA doesn’t dislike UK, they dislike calipari much like the rest of the nation because he cheats



  16. Cokely
    4:26 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    9.) Because they have a national championship that only their school recognizes and no one else does. All the dim witted UNC fans always try and argue that it counts. Don’t let them fool you it does not. They have 5 but possible less soon.



  17. CATS
    4:27 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    #9, #15 – Most schools don’t count these as legit national championships. Kentucky was selected many times for this award.



  18. Will S
    4:27 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Love it.



  19. CATS
    4:28 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Oh yeah, it also says Butler claims the 1924 national championship title too.



  20. Reality
    4:29 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    20) you do realize that this argument goes both ways. Four of UK’s national Championships were in “modern” times. The only four were back before black people or most teams could even play. Just because you rolled a ball out and beat the only other four times at the time doesn’t make you a “champion”…. try again



  21. HillbillyInBC
    4:31 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    I also want to know if they have retired jerseys for Fred Brown and Chris Webber in honor of those 1982 and 1993 titles.



  22. WhoaThere
    4:33 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    #24, UK has a Helms Championship, too. The argument of Modern Ball vs. Pre-Integration is not germane to whether a title was recognized as the primary title awarded as the NCAA is today…and was in ’48.

    Our eight are legit. Perhaps you should try again.



  23. barn
    4:34 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    24–what four would those be realass. UK won its first in ’48



  24. reality
    4:36 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    So just because you beat the only other four teams at the time that gives you the right to claim better history? lol

    Most schools didn’t even field a team at the time. For all we know UK could have just scrimmaged each other lol



  25. reality
    4:37 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Wow 48 sorry, did people even drive cars back then? the national championship was probably played in someones back yard



  26. reality
    4:38 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Sorry, but I just find it funny a program coached by John Calipari could call any other school a cheater or make fun of them. You all hired a coach that none of the big schools would touch, but now he is a saint and the other programs cheat lol



  27. BigBluSoTru
    4:40 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Okay we are jumping for joy but all they reporting is about maybe one BB player, and all the rest football.Carolina is a favorite of espn and many numerous alumni and one very powerful name MICHEAL JORDAN,you have to be living on mars to think anything that Carolina BB has accomplished on the court is going to be just taken away. BBN lets find something else to hang our hopes and dreams on.



  28. Your Brilliance Blinds Us
    4:40 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Ok, “Reality”-Please give us your erudite definition of champion.



  29. Who's Moderating?!
    4:41 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Enjoy your keypad, fools! From using tissues to get past the tears of everyone calling your school a cheat, to “leading” the charge for justice against UNC’s cheating ways…



  30. Bubba Earl
    4:42 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Mr. Emmert will wait for more in-depth research by either an outside investigation team or the university themselves. You will notice that they tend to wait so that they can cut expenses at the NCAA. The decision may be sometime not in the near future!



  31. reality
    4:43 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    33) – Bro, your program is coached by Calipari, it doesn’t matter what the heels do cause it will not top that scumbag coach



  32. Jay Bilas' Swagger
    4:44 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    i apparently dont know very much, I could have sworn there were more than 4 teams in 1948. Gosh guys, I guess we all have been kidding ourselves for years according to ‘reality’. his name is ‘reality’ so it must be true.



  33. UKBlue
    4:45 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    UNC & DUKE are golden boys to the NCAA. There was too much money to be made by UNC basketball & the NCAA, a huge conflict of interest, so everyone including the media turns a blind eye. UNC being good & in the tournament is great PR image for the NCAA. But things are different when it comes to UK, it’s always been this way; we are the best, every school in the country wants to have UK history, tradition, fan base, facilities, and a coach that recruits like Cal. Being hated is the cost of doing business, it’s the price we pay to be UK; as the saying goes, if you’re pissing off your haters, then you know you must be doing something right.

    If this was UK, the NCAA would have a burning cross with Cal hanging from it on the Ave of Champions in front of Memorial/Craft Center.



  34. reality
    4:45 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink


  35. Dear IU and UL, We are National Champs; you are not. The end.
    4:46 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    I think “modern times” can be defined as anything you want. We could define it as starting in 1987, for example.
    UL – 0, UK – 3



  36. Biglaw Dawgin'
    4:46 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Until reading this post, it totally slipped my mind that Peppers was also on the basketball team. I was wondering why you guys were blowing it up.

    One little alleged ACT by a certain high schooler not (then) affiliated with Memphis isn’t looking like such a big deal now is it NCAA?



  37. Dear IU and UL, We are National Champs; you are not. The end.
    4:47 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    my last post was for “reality”, btw.



  38. Academics
    4:48 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Reality – using an agent, paying a player, ect. pales in comparison to academic fraud! These are universities that are accredited to provide higher education, not make up classes and jsut hand dimplomas out because you played basketball. Anyone who thinks cheating the Carolina Way is not as bad the “agent” needs to realize what a university truely stands for…”HIGHER EDUCATION”!



  39. 3cats
    4:48 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    IT will never happen! NCAA will never go to UNC or Duke. If they do they wont look very hard.



  40. reality
    4:50 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    42 – you think calipari stands for academics lol..are you losing your mind? He brings guys in for a year then they leave, come on man. it is fine to assume other people cheat, but when you own does too, then cut back on the comments toward others.



  41. Rockfield, KY
    4:50 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    a UNC grad will not hesitate to tell you how much better their degree is over any other school in America other than Ivy League and maybe UVA. This drives me crazy that its not a big national story. If Cal was petty, I’d love to see him make this an issue. But he is too big of a person to do what I would definitely do.



  42. reality
    4:51 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Calipari is too big of a person lol…I am about to throw up in my mouth on that one



  43. jeyhey
    4:52 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    @ reality – so if tour team (and we all know what team that is) won championships in the 40’s and 50’s, you are saying that your bird brain fanbase would not claim them? if so….that would make you a liar. how does that feel?…being a filthy liar.



  44. reality
    4:52 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Being a filthy liar? Go over to Joe Craft Center and visit Calipari, I am sure he can tell you what it is like



  45. CATS
    4:53 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    #36 – Okay so D. Rose has someone take his ACT for him and Marcus Camby takes money from an agent. Neither have to do with Calipari, but other teams refuse to admit that because they hate Calipari. Why do they have Cal? Because recruits choose UK over their team, Cal wins, and because he coaches at Kentucky. NO ONE has proof Cal has ever cheated. NO ONE.



  46. reality
    4:54 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    49 – there was no proof on Bonds or OJ Simpson either, right? If it walks like a duck, it is a……



  47. Jay Bilas' Swagger
    4:55 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    A quote from reality himself: ‘it is fine to assume other people cheat, but when you own does too, then cut back on the comments toward others.’ Another quote from reality: ‘your program is coached by Calipari, it doesn’t matter what the heels do cause it will not top that scumbag coach.’ A little hypocritical to anyone else?



  48. reality
    4:57 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    51 – I am not a heels fan, they might cheated, my point is taht your coach is a laughing stock and the godfather of cheating



  49. Billy Packer
    4:57 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Everyone is overreacting here. Remember that this is an ACC school, so clearly they did not mean to cheat, and even if they did, it doesn’t rise to the level of other programs that are actually crooked. Now, because of this overreaction, the NCAA will have to perform an investigation and forget to ever have an actual ruling on the case. That’s how to properly punish an ACC school.



  50. smoke and mirrors
    4:57 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    #45,forget it, the god (calapari) can never do no wrong. You are fighting a losing battle my friend.



  51. reality
    4:58 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Calipari is a wannabe that was average throughout his career until he got involved with a shady runner that pays players.



  52. barn
    4:58 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink


  53. Jay Bilas' Swagger
    4:59 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Reality- prove it



  54. reality
    5:00 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    LOL the prove it notion, the classic UK fan response. Well in that sense “prove” that UNC did something wrong. While he was at memphis he was a cheater, but he had a rebirth when he came to UK



  55. jeyhey
    5:03 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    lol….shadty runner?…..CLINT HURTT….you mean that type of shady runner?



  56. Rockfield, KY
    5:05 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    reality: You’re a complete moron. The godfather of cheating in NCAA basketball is John Wooden along with his buddy Sam Gilbert. You are just another fan with blind envy and hatred, so you have to yell assumptions loud enough where someone can hear. All anyone has to do is provide some proof that John Calipari ever cheated and you’ll never have to hear from us again. Problem is, you can’t do it. Until then, please feel free to visit this site as much as possible because your team doesn’t have one for it’s own “fanbase”. I’m sure Matt enjoys all the hits he gets from you.



  57. ukbulldog
    5:06 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Reality- doesn’t an academic transcript prove that they were cheating with classes? That’s the difference, there’s actual evidence for this accusation against UNC



  58. reality
    5:06 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Basically the same thing yes, but Hurtt is an actual coach that probably uses middle men to get it done. I am just saying people that live in glasses houses shouldn’t throw stones because your coach is the godfather of cheating, just ask his peers…



  59. CATS
    5:06 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Believe what you want to believe Reality. You could believe in Santa Claus for all I know. Either way, your disapproval of Calipari means nothing, except to make yourself feel good for letting your opinion be known to everyone reading KSR. Just like everyone else’s opinion on here.



  60. reality
    5:08 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    So Calipari doesnt cheat lol…hey do this, type “Calipari” into google and look to see what the first thing that comes up in the search lol



  61. 1924?
    5:11 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    What’s up with the 1924 Banner? Can you claim rings prior to the Great Depression?



  62. John Wall
    5:12 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Reality you spend your time on a kentucky blog site how lame is that?



  63. 64 is dumb
    5:14 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    64. I see what you mean. CoachCal.com . Damning, indeed.



  64. CATS
    5:14 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Yes, let me read this article about how coaches think Calipari is a cheater, yet have no way of proving it. I love the part where they explain why they think he’s a cheater. Oh wait, that part wasn’t in there.



  65. Huckleberry Hound
    5:14 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Dad Gummit if they keep on with all this negative publicity, I’ll toss their media creditentials faster than a loudmouth Presbyterian.



  66. barn
    5:16 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    63–you seem easily influnced by an article that is centered entirely around ‘anonymous coaches’, coaches whose names aren’t attributed to their comments. hogwash. i could write sensational articles all day long citing anonymous sources.



  67. wbguitar08
    5:17 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    deny it all you want, ACC types; I’ve said for years, there’s nothing going on in Lexington, that isn’t going on in Chapel Hill, Raleigh, Bloomington, East Lansing, etc…if your program is big-time D1, there dirt under someone’s nails.



  68. REALITYis
    5:20 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Reality is that there are blogs or team sites for every college team.



  69. ebell55
    5:21 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    In other news ESPN just acknowledge TIM Tebows B Day for the millionth time!! Hoodwinked Bambozzeld lead astray!!



  70. thewaitfor8
    5:22 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    How awesome is it that UK won the Championship this year? #RespectTheChamps

    NCAA won’t hit UNC. This story has been coming from over a year away.
    “Reality” won’t give up his Cal’s a cheater stance.

    So I’ll just look at that 8th banner and laugh. We’re the champs.



  71. jeyhey
    5:27 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    you say cal’s a cheater and the ncaa does not….some chicken shit anonymous choaches say he cheats..again..the ncaa does not. are you mad because no one can catch your white whale? you speak of stones and glass houses….you really expect anyone to believe that those football recruits come to u of l because of the “atmosphere” (lmfao) and “tradition”…hmmmmm…wonder what’s going on there. you should worry about your own glass house and stop bothering people about theirs.



  72. John Wall
    5:29 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    you da man 74. get off our site reality and read whatever team blog you do, sorry we probably beat them last year



  73. c'monman
    5:29 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    You mean the Raleigh Observer reported it.



  74. your jealous
    5:30 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    #54 If your are so sure Cal is crooked, then show all of us BBN fans the proof you have. You seem to be so sure he’s dirty. If not, go back to loooooouserville and cry on your one blog.



  75. the Big Dog
    5:31 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    I’m glad to see UNC making up national championships. I am surprised to see they did not hang a championship banner for 2012 since everyone knows they had the best team.



  76. louisville
    5:42 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    The Nerve! Kentucky Shame!!!!!



  77. sharon
    5:44 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    who is this “reality” person? apparently someone very jealous and bitter. tell us exactly what Calipari has cheated at? don’t you think that if the NCAA could get something on him, they would? get a life!



  78. Actuality
    5:55 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Reality… Bro. You must be livin in a different reality bro. Just like all these other tards who think cal needs to cheat to get recruits. Come on bro… Seriously bro… Bro, bro, bro. You sir are trash and an idiot. Btw, if you feel the need to say bro that many times, or at all, then you must be a huge tool



  79. UKBlue
    6:03 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Reality: do you really have nothing better to do then to come on a UK blog site & type shit you obviously no nothing about?



  80. reality!
    6:04 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Calipari is ugly and he cheats and…NO MOM I DID NOT DRINK YOU AND DAD’S MILK, MY MILK HAS MY NAME ON IT! LEAVE ME ALONE I TOLD YOU THE BASEMENT IS OFF LIMITS TO YOU GUYS GEEZ!



  81. Linda Taylor
    6:04 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Hey Reality here’s a little actual truth to educate you. In 1948 UK played 39 games, won 36, lost 3. The teams we beat inthe regular season were (in order) Indiana Central, Ft Knox, Tulsa (twice), DePaul, Cincinnati, Xavier, St. John’s, Creighton, Western Ontario, Miami (Ohio), Michigan State, Ohio University, Tennessee, Georgia Tech, Georgia, Cincinnati, DePaul, Alabama, Washington, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Alabama, Vanderbilt, Georgia Tech, Temple, Xavier. In the SEC Tournament we beat (in order) Florida, LSU, Tennessee, Georgia Tech. In the NCAA Tournament we beat (in order) Louisville, Baylor. In The Olympics we beat (in order) Switzerland, Czechoslovakia, Argentina, Egypt, Peru, Uruguay, Mexico, and for the Gold Medal-France. UK was NCAA Champions, SEC Champions, SEC Tournament Champions, and OLYMPIC CHAMPIONS.



  82. UKBlue
    6:05 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    If Reality is having to use the term Bro Bro Bro, you know he or she is obviously not educated !!



  83. Linda Taylor
    6:09 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Oops correction to that list: in the NCAA Tournament we beat Columbia, Holy Cross, and Baylor. It was in the Olympic Trials we beat Louisville and Baylor. Isn’t that just too sweet, we kept UL out of the Olympics. Life just doesn’t get much better than that.



  84. Roy G Biv Wms
    6:10 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Tarnished Heels.



  85. Big J
    6:37 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    This guy called “Reality” is one jealous dude. He can not stand it that UK has the greatest basketball program in the history of the game. Going for 9.



  86. Kevin
    7:18 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    So in 80 years… will 2012 still count as modern times? 😉



  87. Biglaw Dawgin'
    8:01 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    I just want to hear the *reality* of the whole situation. Is that too much to ask?



  88. Chicago CatFan
    8:06 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    reality, think about this: if Cal was a cheater because Derrick Rose cheated on his SAT in highschool and made the team vacate a final four, what will Roy be if his teams have to vacate 2 titles because his players took fake classes in their college? Roy finally got what he wanted, he’s way ahead of all the other coaches on this.



  89. Drop the Bone
    8:14 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Reality seems to have a list of “talking points” but other than reading off a list, he has zero compelling arguments to make. He is like a dog that won’t let go of a bone. No insults to Man’s Best Friend intended…



  90. ZombieLibrarian
    8:32 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    “This is outrageous…..wait, what….it’s UNC or Duke? Hrrrmpph….move along people, nothing to see here….”

    -Mark Emmert

    (See Corey Maggette violations that got NOTHING…no sanctions or very little press….if you need further proof.)



  91. BigBlue1976
    8:58 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Its not about “modern times”. Helms National Championships don’t count. UK has one of those too.
    You don’t see a banner in Rupp for it. All that matters
    is how many NCAA titles all-time and UK has 8, period.



  92. Kyle
    9:33 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Reality is an idiot along with most tards fans. Can anyone explain to me why Cal would get Camby an agent when it doesn’t help him or his team it only helps the agent and Camby so why would Cal do that when he has to know its a violation. The only person who should be in trouble in that is Camby’s agent for being in contact with Camby. The D Rose thing I could see Cal being involved in that cause it did help Cal and the team win and get to the national title game. But they didn’t find evidence and with something like and ppl who are determined to find something you would think evidence would have came up but it didn’t. So I don’t know what to tell all the Cal haters that says he cheats except that he hasn’t been directly implicated in anything. One thing I will say is everybody cheats when it comes to recruiting cause of all the stipulations.



  93. uncle ron
    10:03 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Send Drew back to Indianapolis….



  94. serdi
    10:20 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    I don’t think UNC should take down their Helms National Championship. I think we should put up our 2 Helms National Championships. That puts us at 10 National Championships.



  95. AdamM
    11:42 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Nothing will come of this. There will be no indepth investigation… If this were U.K. the N.C.A.A would have already vacated our wins .. In both sports.



  96. Bec
    11:50 pm August 14, 2012 Permalink

    Stupid trolls. Like you’re going to sway anyone on a fan site. Pathetic.



  97. Reality's baby daddy
    1:18 am August 15, 2012 Permalink

    Look “bro”… You can call coach cal a cheater all you want. It’s not gonna change the fact that we had Anthony Davis and MKG on our team, and assuming you’re a jealous Louisville fan, you had Siva and Deng. That’s the difference between you and us. UK = highest gpa in SEC… Louisville = awkward loser billboards in lexington… UK = 1st rounders, Louisville = Europe bound pros. It doesn’t take someone to cheat when they are immediately set up for success. Haters gonna hate.